DAMN FINALLY I CAN SHARE

whoaa.. so many things happened with the Gem, if anyone has been following the story, first of all id like to apologize for being busy i was really busy.

So, i dont even know where to start, few weeks after the love song i sent her, which was ACCIDENTAL, one night she texts me and tells me that a guy asked her out, i know that guy he is also of the same religion as her, well fit, extremely smart, very tidy clean works out, and he asked her to go to a very expensive restaurant, and she told me that, i was bummed, honestly, but then she goes - "but i cant hang with a guy alone you probbly know why" and im like -boyfriend? and she goes -"yes even though we broke up he is very sensitive" and so on and so forth, we were texting back and forth for about 4 hours talking about her BF openly, that was first time EVER, before if id ask her something abt him she would call me nosy, the convo we had was deep, the impression / insight i got from it was - she has been with him for too long, she wants to break up, but she wants him to break up with her cause she would feel guilty telling him off, + she is used to him. So after that things were going better for me, one day she went with her friends to a different state and it sucked ass for her, she called and we had a 30 minute conversation - and she hates talking on the phone, i was actually the one who ended the convo cause i was sweaty outside after running. Then I proposed we go to an art gallery, but also with her best friend(a girl) and some other guy, in the end only 3 of us went and we had plenty of fun, had a poke war (she hates when people poke her) and she said nothing we were just having fun, then sushi then a long ass walk, we had fun. Then next weekend she said she wanted to see fi re works so im like -wanna go see them? and she said yes and she came with her best friend and we went there and had beers then an amazing walk by the beach with dogs and at one point we were walking close to each other it felt so good from my side at least i felt like taking her hand but figured its too early didnt want to ruin it all.. So then this week it was her bday, so i got her address with my own illegal ways and sent her a sixty $ bouquet of red roses lilys etc it was gorgeous and ACCIDENTALLY my note after reviewing the next day sounded like i called her something special she loved the flowers and was surprised cause the night before i simply said happy bday without wishing anything and then this gorgeous bouquet

so now shes just flowing in its perfect flow right into my hands, half the things ive done have been done ACCIDENTALLY, and after analyzing had more meaning than i initially intended them to have, i guess its fate lol 😛 i wont tell u what ill do next but its weird how im not turned off yet knowing that she likes me a little too

@KOA

No offense but you are driving me crazy. Coming on our board like sizing up every single small move this girl does.
She could sneeze and you are off inspecting, scrutinizing, trying to decipher cryptic messages. Know this that Gemini's don't really encode much, we are open books. But for now I am definitely going to open my mouth and say you are driving me bat shit.

Posted by Xin
@KOA

No offense but you are driving me crazy. Coming on our board like sizing up every single small move this girl does.
She could sneeze and you are off inspecting, scrutinizing, trying to decipher cryptic messages. Know this that Gemini's don't really encode much, we are open books. But for now I am definitely going to open my mouth and say you are driving me bat shit.

lol are you mad because your pal is being manipulated by me? well dont be because i am not manipulating her, its more like I am luring her in, its okay 🙂

Im sorry I wasn't aware that it was someone I knew.....
I have no idea what you are talking about.

lmao no im not listening to anyone i found that making my own decisions spontaneously works best, sorry 😛, when i ask her out its gonna be a nice walk fallowed by gordon ramsay restaurant, or the other way around

Posted by DG
He always has a dissertation.....break it down brotha man!!!!

im slightly confused, but okay?

Posted by ellessque
......TOTALLY ACCIDENTALLY ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

maybe not completely, but the degree of what i have intended to do was much much less to what it actually came out to be, for example i simply wanted to share a nice song, then actually listened to it and its a mad love song, and described mine and her situation, i was like COOMEE OOON!

KOA I like your style 🙂
You remind me of my Aries. He waited over a year for me to date him, and we've been together ever since.
I hope your Gem will gradually realize what a special person you are.
Good luck and keep us posted.

whoaaa.. so the night we went out in a company with other friends we had some beers and held hands together, but she was also holding a hand of her best girl friend, the next day nothing, the day after that she texts me in the morning saying she is pissed because she fought with her bff because the Gem and I held hands that night, because she didnt want the gem girl to do it, apparently she is not used to seeing her holding other boys hand, then the gem says something i was afraid she would say, she wanted me to say that i did it from a friendly side because she sees me as a brother..

then she kept asking questions and since i didn't wanna lie to her i told her that some feelings might have developed, that of coarse pissed her off because i didn't tell her earlier, even tho duh that's why i didn't tell u, but i want to talk to her face to face about it but she completely shut off and wont even reply my texts now, she feels betrayed she said i ruined our friendship because i was a best friend for her, and that it proves her point not to ever be friends with guys cause they get the wrong idea, which wasn't even a case...

hence as you may see its all quite fukced up and i am trying to get to meet up with me, that way I could explain myself and bend the truth saying that feelings have developed recently and not that i had them for 2 years straight, because she automatically assumed that i always had them and it shocked her, she said something like, "all these times we would go eat together and i wasn't even aware of your feelings" so on the other hand its my fault for not coming off clean right at the beginning, but wasnt it obvious when i asked her friend whether the gem is single, wasn't it obvious when i asked her out in winter, i guess now she is putting all the pieces together, im pretty fukced.. that's all i can say

I'm not getting that it's a cover for something deeper. These two are very young, and I did exactly the same thing to a guy when I was younger. I thought we were just close friends, he was harboring feelings, and I got pissed at him when he revealed those feelings. Gems can see hanging out with a guy as very innocent, and be a little oblivious. My Gem best friend is doing this to a poor Pisces right now. He's completely smitten with her, they do everything together, she tells him about other guys, and she has not the slightest romantic interest in him. When someone points out that he's into her (EVERYONE sees it), she denies he has any feelings and maintains that they're just good friends.

I know not all Gems are like this. I can spot a guy's interest a mile away now, but it wasn't always that way.

Posted by anearthygemini

Posted by Whimsy
I'm not getting that it's a cover for something deeper. These two are very young, and I did exactly the same thing to a guy when I was younger. I thought we were just close friends, he was harboring feelings, and I got pissed at him when he revealed those feelings. Gems can see hanging out with a guy as very innocent, and be a little oblivious. My Gem best friend is doing this to a poor Pisces right now. He's completely smitten with her, they do everything together, she tells him about other guys, and she has not the slightest romantic interest in him. When someone points out that he's into her (EVERYONE sees it), she denies he has any feelings and maintains that they're just good friends.

I know not all Gems are like this. I can spot a guy's interest a mile away now, but it wasn't always that way.

Interesting, when you were young would you hold your male friend's hand and walk down the beach as friends? Just curious. I never trusted the friendship thing. And I agree, we're all different. Just curious to see how others handled friendship with the opposite sex. Even while young, holding hands meant something to me. Seems it does to this gal's friend too.

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Yes. My friends and I would even sometimes sleep in the same beds, and no one would touch each other. It was just sleeping. But, I'm from a pretty communal background, and most people aren't.

when we were by the beach i did want to touch her hand but thought it would be too soon, so i didnt do it, i did it in the NYC where we were chilling we walked few blocks like that, twice, first time she said hold my hand or give me your hand i dont remember so i grabbed her hand, the second time she said the same thing only she grabbed me and she grabbed the upper part of it so she kept pulling my skin, and YES i wanted to hold it, so i took her hand and put it in the palm of my hand u know what i mean and we walked that way longer, then her friend started bitching for no reason and we stopped, they stopped holding hands, we kept holding hands, then gem escaped and thats it..

whimsy, after you got pissed at the guy about reveling his feelings what happened after that?

She said that the ONLY reason she "let that happen" was because in the back of her head she always knew i was her good/best friend, apparently i was like a brother to her, and that she would never hold it if it wasnt the case..

Its so odd, in the end of the day, at 3am, we went to the same bad and i was having beer alone sort of away from them, when i turned my head to look at them they were looking different directions only gem was standing and STARING at me, eyes wide opened, most likely thinking, i turned away right away and never looked back at her until they called me to leave.

I felt like i needed to wait and take it slow and then find a moment to tell her how i feel but she started asking questions and i just told her the truth.. now i feel like coward, i will probably see her today since i asked her to show me something and she promised in the past to show it to me, will see how i will unveil everything, how should i tell her without "turning her off" and "pushing her away" if that is possible.

This is a pretty deep mess i got myself into, because i honestly think that this is far from liking her, i had a dream this night about her in which she basically gave birth from her ex boyfriend being single, and i was ready to kill myself in the dream thats how terribly i felt

and it is true everyone sees that i like her, EVERYONE, except apparently for her, even her friends do they just don't say anything

KOA- I remember feeling betrayed when he revealed his feelings. I couldn't just avoid him, though, because we were in a van on a cross-country trip! I got over it, but was more careful around him (no more touching, hugging, etc).

And a little more about my Gem best friend:

I spoke with her today, actually, and she said she's finally getting a clue about the Pisces' feelings for her. She won't address it with him, though, and they keep being inseparable, even though she's not attracted to him romantically. She said she'll probably end up hurting him, but that their friendship is really good and she doesn't want to ruin it by becoming involved (she figures they'll break up eventually, and would just rather stay great friends than mess everything up).

IDK, maybe something in that story will help you.

well i tried talking to her when we met she said eventually she will talk to me but she will never be good friends with me again, and left to watch a game with that guy who earlier this spring asked her out.

then i took 30 minutes to write a 4 sms long message, basically telling her we need to discuss this in the matter of two weeks and that if i knew she would react that way id never let any, and i said "'feelings,'" get involved, and i am being honest.. it hurts, because im so used to her, she already got a substitute whos tens of times better

Nobody from my friends like her either for some reason, i guess she can be complicated but still we never even fought and it required no effort at all, we had fun times together i dont understand how could such thing coming from a best friend betray her in any way, a healthy conversation could resolve everything... yes i understand how her EXboyfriend might feel about her acting certain way but thing is she is trying to get away from him as far as she can and i am pretty sure she will go out with someone (probably the guy) by the end of summer if not sooner.. thing is he did it the right way, he found a perfect time to start talking to her more often (perfect time being she is single now so she wont say no i have a boyfriend but will just lie her way out saying no i cant) and now she knows that he likes her and theres no single reason not to like the guy.. if we wont resolve it and start being friends again i will have to and i will stop communicating with her completely, will cut all ties, and hopefully by the end of summer i will go over it and will be able to start over.

thing is she knows that he likes her and her message to me was "omggg [name] just asked me if i want to go to [place] with him"

she usually says omg when she is excited but then she started abt her ex-bf and we had that long talk, and i got an impression that she doesnt wanna go out with anyone at all, but since things were clear between them now, whenever she is ready she will ask him out herself, i couldnt come clean at the beginning like this guy because she was dating at that time, this is doomed, this relationship that i have with her is doomed, if she really feels betrayed she will never trust me she told me that ppl betrayed her and that she doesnt trust anyone now to her i look the same way, im thrown in the same bag of trash..

she is too valuable of a friend to move on i will never move on

she was my only friend...

No one is floating around her she keeps everyone at arms distance, the reason we were best friends was because she thought i was just a friend, there only one guy the guy who asked her out, who she seems to like, only one guy... im extremely bummed right now idk what to do idk.. if she doesnt speak to me in the period of 7 days ill initiate a conversation if we wont meet up by the end of next week it will be over..

from a different perspective, i had planned to ask her out this weekend, i guess it was ending one way or another, maybe she wouldnt be as mad at me if i told her first..

would it help me save our friendship if i calmly explained to her that i simply started liking her recently and that i didnt want to tell her about them because i knew she had issues with her ex, and that all of it vanished once i realized i could lose her as a friend?

Why not just give her some time and space to be mad? Let her sort through her feelings without trying to fix them. Most Gems don't hold grudges forever unless you've done something truly horrible (which you haven't).

i dont think ill ever be in the picture, yes i want to be in the picture but she said she will eventually talk to me but that she will never be good friends with me, probably meaning that she will keep me on arms length and not hang out together anymore.. her ex is in the picture she needs time to move on from him, she has some feels for him but she wants to move on... the new guy is in all ways perfect, he is of the same religion, he is a genius - very dedicated, 4.0 average, a future doctor, probably comes from a family of doctors, very athletic, very easy to talk to, conversations with him are easy for anyone and last for hours, he is very kind and will help anyone if someone asks him for help in anything, always nicely dressed, eats healthy, and so on and so forth, i stand no chance honestly and he has looks, he is religious, he doesnt sleep around, curious in everything, list can go on forever


i think my only chance is to be her friend.. i could do it, there were billions of times i liked someone else other than her but it wasnt really working, but he is perfect and she loves perfection, im nobody in comparison to him, one thing tho he is tall and she is short but i dont think it will stop anyone from a relationship

i spoke to my grandma and i feel much better now, i will leave the gem alone shes pretty pissed, once she is calm ill talk to her

Posted by DazedScorp
What did I say several months go....

Friendzoned.

guess you were right, I always had that in the back of my head and every day I had a thought about it in the past month when we were hanging out, every time i had a thought fly by "what if she only does this because im a friend"

however, after some more analyzing - some things don't quite match, her cancer best friend (June 23 1998) a rare bit??h, EXTREMELY manipulative, might have caused the reaction the Gem had.. That bit??h can manipulate you so well that you will think that you are making the decision, what I think happened is since the cancer started fighting with her about us holding hands, she was trying to convince her of my "real" intentions, The Gem being stubborn and god forbid ever wrong about anything got extra pissed off, because in reality i believe its possible to have a healthy conversation about this, that was an explosion of emotions, the cancer friend will eventually start being her friend again since she is extremely pushy and rude and will keep trying until Gem gives up and accepts her back. Basically I think that her role in this was essential, she manipulated the Gem quite well, and the worst thing is Gem realizes it afterwards and knows how manipulative that one is but keeps getting influenced every Fu??king time!

One time the Gem wanted to do something, so in order to stop the Gem the cancer hoe said "okay ill say something you hate, you are letting me down man, dont let me down" and kept repeating that, the gem started getting upset and listened to the cancer, im telling you, the most manipulative piece of crap i've ever met, and i thought i was manipulative..

on the same note, even if the Gem did in any way like me more than a friend, her "best friends" nagging would completely turn her opinion upside down, so that gems only goal would be to prove her wrong, and since SHE the Gem was proven wrong she got pissed even more.. She might be in denial after all this. So its best to leave her alone, glad its now out there, and IF we start talking again it will be on a different level, and from scratch, thank you all for your support, she was the reason I came to these forums few years ago..

weird stuff she started texting me last week as it approached the end cause i warned her to talk to me, i saw her today but we only spoke about business, school etc, we are getting warmed up as friends again and the BIG conversation is coming soon, very soon, i know she liked me for sure but once she found out that i like her all that disappeared, the way she looked at me is not the way you look at your "brother friend" shes in great deal of denial, plus she had to prove her friend wrong so yeah... basically i feel like after i tell her im no longer interested and am only willing to be friends she will start chasing me, though if she does i have no idea what to do further, and yes duh obviously id like to get her, but you know, before she does its just a quick update of what i think is gonna happen, if she starts chasing then she did indeed like me, if she doesnt, and she dates that dude - a mutual friend told me she was at this place where the guy was asking out the gem girl to go to, i presume she called her friend to make it less awkward basically what i was doing by making it seem like a friendly hangout.. Its not 100% that they all went there, but it could be that she spilled the beans accidentally not being aware that i knwo that the guy asked the gem girl out to that place before and the gem told me abt it.. so anyway this is the news, and yes we started talking again, we text and as weird as it may sound she sounds like she cares about things like my school and etc.