Gemini 'a How do you feel being ignored ?

This topic was created in the Gemini forum by BeautyandTheBull on Tuesday, June 24, 2014 and has 30 replies.
I feel like my boyfriend hasn't really been showing me attention really ! He says it's because he's with his family but I just feel like it's not really a good excuse so today I text him something really sweet he ignored it & He replied back "hey" really hurt my feelings I feel dismissed so i haven't texted him back all day !! I pretty much just ignored his message ! He always does text me back But I feel like I'm going to let him worry about me again ... & wonder ...you think that will make him angry ? Or should I just reply & say something back ??
I wanna see how this thread develops. I'm taking notes.
They're ignoring this thread lol. It's been like over an hour. Still no Gemini's only a Cap troll.
BeautyandTheBull,
Read the book, "Men are from Mars, Women are from Venus" by Dr. John Gray. There are also some great videos on youtube hearing him speak.
Here's the deal. Guys don't think as women do. So understand that first hand. Secondly, guys are wired to "pull away" when they feel overwhelmed with emotions (such as anger, hurt, afraid) etc.. Third, they can pull away because it's natural. To women, it comes across as being mean. Whatever the scenario, he's doing what he's wired to do and you're concerned and feeling anxious because that's how you're wired.
You are also concerned that if you ignore him as he's done to you, it might make him angry. Why are you so concerned about his feelings when he doesn't seem to care about yours? think about that. Men love the chase and want their freedom first and foremost. If you give them space and the ability to chase you, it will increase his desire for you. If you text him often and he only responds with "hey", be happy he responded at all. Seriously, most men don't like to communicate in the manner we women do.
Don't be mean or text him something that may hurt him. Simply ignore him for some time. When he sends a text, don't reply right away. Let him wonder why you aren't responding. It will make you more attractive to him. Don't always be available. Men don't appreciate something or someone that is easy to attain. They like the challenge. That's in their DNA.
The only way to get a man who really wants to be with you and respect you is to live your own life first, be happy and surround yourself with good people and hobbies you love. Once you do this, you become more attractive to the man. And you no longer dwell on him and his motives for lack of communication. Here's some links you might find helpful.
Also watch these two vids. Very insightful. Hope these all help. Good luck.

It all sounds like games to me.
Gemini64 thanks ! For the videos really helped ! & I don't know why I was so concerned about his feelings ! Those videos snapped me back to reality ! Im never the chaser .. I started out giving him soo much space & of course he always did hmu but I had a relationship fail because I was giving way too much space so I didn't want another relationship to fail because I wasn't showing my man enough attention ! I check in & say good night sometimes or good morning .. & I'm going to do what I started out doing .. He comes home this week & I decided to just let him contact me when he ready to see me instead of reaching out to him .. It would make me look so desperate ! But thanks again ! I needed to see that
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Gemini64 thanks ! For the videos really helped ! & I don't know why I was so concerned about his feelings ! Those videos snapped me back to reality ! Im never the chaser .. I started out giving him soo much space & of course he always did hmu but I had a relationship fail because I was giving way too much space so I didn't want another relationship to fail because I wasn't showing my man enough attention ! I check in & say good night sometimes or good morning .. & I'm going to do what I started out doing .. He comes home this week & I decided to just let him contact me when he ready to see me instead of reaching out to him .. It would make me look so desperate ! But thanks again ! I needed to see that


You go girl! You've got this!
With a gem you've got to find that balance of being independent and giving him the type of attention he craves. I couldn't do it and one of the complaints my ex had was I didn't give him enough attention. I was too independent and he didn't feel needed.
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Gemini64 thanks ! For the videos really helped ! & I don't know why I was so concerned about his feelings ! Those videos snapped me back to reality ! Im never the chaser .. I started out giving him soo much space & of course he always did hmu but I had a relationship fail because I was giving way too much space so I didn't want another relationship to fail because I wasn't showing my man enough attention ! I check in & say good night sometimes or good morning .. & I'm going to do what I started out doing .. He comes home this week & I decided to just let him contact me when he ready to see me instead of reaching out to him .. It would make me look so desperate ! But thanks again ! I needed to see that


You go girl! You've got this!
With a gem you've got to find that balance of being independent and giving him the type of attention he craves. I couldn't do it and one of the complaints my ex had was I didn't give him enough attention. I was too independent and he didn't feel needed.

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Oh, I didn't finish my thought.
On the other hand, if I was too dependent, he would have been turned off by that, too. He didn't want me up his butt or clingy/needy either.
Just hard to find that balance. But you can do this, I know you can!!
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Gemini64 thanks ! For the videos really helped ! & I don't know why I was so concerned about his feelings ! Those videos snapped me back to reality ! Im never the chaser .. I started out giving him soo much space & of course he always did hmu but I had a relationship fail because I was giving way too much space so I didn't want another relationship to fail because I wasn't showing my man enough attention ! I check in & say good night sometimes or good morning .. & I'm going to do what I started out doing .. He comes home this week & I decided to just let him contact me when he ready to see me instead of reaching out to him .. It would make me look so desperate ! But thanks again ! I needed to see that


You go girl! You've got this!
With a gem you've got to find that balance of being independent and giving him the type of attention he craves. I couldn't do it and one of the complaints my ex had was I didn't give him enough attention. I was too independent and he didn't feel needed.

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Thanks! How long did you guys last ? ?
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Gemini64 thanks ! For the videos really helped ! & I don't know why I was so concerned about his feelings ! Those videos snapped me back to reality ! Im never the chaser .. I started out giving him soo much space & of course he always did hmu but I had a relationship fail because I was giving way too much space so I didn't want another relationship to fail because I wasn't showing my man enough attention ! I check in & say good night sometimes or good morning .. & I'm going to do what I started out doing .. He comes home this week & I decided to just let him contact me when he ready to see me instead of reaching out to him .. It would make me look so desperate ! But thanks again ! I needed to see that


You go girl! You've got this!
With a gem you've got to find that balance of being independent and giving him the type of attention he craves. I couldn't do it and one of the complaints my ex had was I didn't give him enough attention. I was too independent and he didn't feel needed.



Oh, I didn't finish my thought.
On the other hand, if I was too dependent, he would have been turned off by that, too. He didn't want me up his butt or clingy/needy either.
Just hard to find that balance. But you can do this, I know you can!!
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I think I can too ! After all I don't wanna be smothered either ! I want us to have that balance .. I want to be able to do something if I wanted & him too I don't wanna get tired of him either ! ...
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Gemini64 thanks ! For the videos really helped ! & I don't know why I was so concerned about his feelings ! Those videos snapped me back to reality ! Im never the chaser .. I started out giving him soo much space & of course he always did hmu but I had a relationship fail because I was giving way too much space so I didn't want another relationship to fail because I wasn't showing my man enough attention ! I check in & say good night sometimes or good morning .. & I'm going to do what I started out doing .. He comes home this week & I decided to just let him contact me when he ready to see me instead of reaching out to him .. It would make me look so desperate ! But thanks again ! I needed to see that


You go girl! You've got this!
With a gem you've got to find that balance of being independent and giving him the type of attention he craves. I couldn't do it and one of the complaints my ex had was I didn't give him enough attention. I was too independent and he didn't feel needed.




Thanks! How long did you guys last ? ?
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18 years, but it was a nasty divorce.
No problem BeautyandTheBull. Glad the videos helped. They've helped me a lot too.
I've gone through a similar experience as you recently, except it wasn't a BF/GF scenario. It was a life long rapport with a mentor who I trusted and was my father figure. We're both happily married and have kept in touch over the years. He invited me over a month ago to one of his events. I showed up. He totally ignored me and gave me the silent treatment. I sent a brief email a few days later asking him why he did this, but that I was forgiving and will give him his space etc. I have not heard back; at this point, probably never will. And I have not contacted him since nor will I.
I don't know what happened, and perhaps he's not in a position to tell me. What I gleaned from this experience (and of course all the dating experiences before I married my husband) is this. You can have a very healthy and normal relationship with a man. You have have great communication. You can feel happy and energized around him and believe they too feel that way about you. However, at times, no matter what you do or think, men will pull away and get very distant.
It took me a long time to understand this and some serious heartache. We females communicate our love through words, then actions. Men OTOH are mostly about action. When they don't want to emote, they withdraw. It's simply how they are wired. John Gray's rubber band effect theory is dead on.
I have recommended his book to many guys and it's amazing how they come back with, "wow, that's so accurate."
So again, be yourself. Live your life. Do your own thing. Don't smother him with TLC. That will only decrease his testosterone. Men want what they have to chase. There's nothing you can do to make him "want" you more. He is either with you or he isn't.
hahaha pulling away hahaha Got 2 get out of here hahaha
I'm not so sure it's going to work out anymore we got into an argument because he stood me up last night like WTF so disrespectful ! He ignores my texts instead of taken 2 secs to say he can't make it .. I felt disrespected ! I may never understand him & I'm not so sure I still even want to ...he said he got busy with work I did apologize for going off .. He may never talk to me again but I'm not going to sob over him ..I'm going to move on ... If this is how he reacts when it comes to a disagreement & disappears I don't want him ... I forgave him for what he did to me & it took a lot ! He chased me for a year ! So the fact that he disappeared on me over that irks my nerve I thought we were in it together ! But I was wrong ! So
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I'm not so sure it's going to work out anymore we got into an argument because he stood me up last night like WTF so disrespectful ! He ignores my texts instead of taken 2 secs to say he can't make it .. I felt disrespected ! I may never understand him & I'm not so sure I still even want to ...he said he got busy with work I did apologize for going off .. He may never talk to me again but I'm not going to sob over him ..I'm going to move on ... If this is how he reacts when it comes to a disagreement & disappears I don't want him ... I forgave him for what he did to me & it took a lot ! He chased me for a year ! So the fact that he disappeared on me over that irks my nerve I thought we were in it together ! But I was wrong ! So


OK B and TB,
you are where I have been, although our relationships are on different levels.
and as with me, you have been put in the position to understand what your guy is doing. You've given him time. You've apologized. You've been forgiving. He's still disrespecting you. I know the feeling.
You're not going to change him. The only person you can change is yourself. Time to change. Move on and get on with your life. You deserve better.
And the good thing is, you already know this. So you're one step ahead in the game.
He's not ready for commitment, pure and simple. Let him have his freedom and without you.
Drop him like a bad habit. Find new things to do, hang out with good friends, and go after other guys. You will find that one guy who appreciate you for you and won't run. Men are simply versions of little boys in a bigger body. Often, it takes years them years to mature and know what they want.
Don't waste anymore of your time on a little boy.
Just doesn't get why he would hurt me sooo bad ! Feels like revenge because I made him chase me for a year ! Why he didn't he just leave me alone ? I was fine.... Instead he lies pouring his heart out how he been waiting to be with me ! Then he gets home & reaches out to me to see him but never falls through with the plan because he said he got caught up in work ! I felt like if he wasn't into me why would he wait 2 months just to ignore me ? Is this even normal ? I been sick to my stomach & throwing up I'm do overwhelmed ! & disgusted by him .. Won't let my self get close again
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Just doesn't get why he would hurt me sooo bad ! Feels like revenge because I made him chase me for a year ! Why he didn't he just leave me alone ? I was fine.... Instead he lies pouring his heart out how he been waiting to be with me ! Then he gets home & reaches out to me to see him but never falls through with the plan because he said he got caught up in work ! I felt like if he wasn't into me why would he wait 2 months just to ignore me ? Is this even normal ? I been sick to my stomach & throwing up I'm do overwhelmed ! & disgusted by him .. Won't let my self get close again


Your answer is in the videos I linked up for you. Go watch them again until you completely understand. It's NOT YOU. Accepting it is a different thing. I know. Been there, done that.
Your guy is insecure and scared of falling too hard and committing to you. That removes his freedom and makes him vulnerable.
MEN in general hates these two things. They want to be in control of their emotions and not have to feel them intensely for a woman.
It is what it is. Women are wired to emote. Men are wired to withhold emotions and withdraw. You can't fight Mother Nature.
Honestly, the sooner you let go and move on with YOUR life, the easier it will be in the long run. I understand it's painful because you put in
so much into the relationship and your heart is breaking. I get it. Trust me on this.
Men and women have similar hormonal release when in love. Love makes them high, which is a great feeling. Better than the one you get when your favourite team wins. Or when you win a game. Or when you get drunk. There are people addicted to falling in love. Especially men.
To say that one rejects someone who makes him high is like saying that one has a masochistic streak or prefers the dull life.
Do not believe such crap.
I've seen men in love, and they were all over the subject of their affection. They were not scared, they were HIGH. If their love was requited, they did NOT feel insecure, but brave, grateful and optimistic. EVERYBODY is in control of their emotions, since they could get on with their life and job, while in love.
What is there to fear? It's like saying men are afraid of purchasing a car, because of road accidents or the engine breaking down unexpectedly.
Yes men and women BOTH release OXYTOCIN when attracted and falling for someone. However, the huge difference is this.
1. When a woman starts "feeling it" and her Oxytocin is released, she gets more addicted and falls even harder. And this hormone LOWERS stress (CORTISOL LEVELS) in women.
2. When a man starts "feeling it" and his Oxytocin is released, this actually LOWERS his TESTOSTERONE. By doing so, this actually INCREASES his stress (CORTISOL LEVELS). This is the reason why men need to withdraw when they feel they are getting too close. It's simple biology.
The difference is that there are men who understand this to a point and are emotionally mature. Unfortunately, there are many men who will never grow up. Instead of understanding their feelings, they panic.
The key is understanding how men and women not only communicate but how they differ in dealing with emotion.
http://www.marsvenus.com/blog/john-gray/better-sex-for-women
Lol yes I did get way too emotional ! I actually got mad at myself afterwards lol but I thank you all for everyone advice I'm def listening ! He texted & called me all day today & I didn't pick up ! He's asking me where I am & thing like that ! But I did not response I actually woke up pretty happy the advice that you guys gave me really just motivated me more ! I'm always helping all of my friends out & giving them advice I've always been the strong one but this broke me down to my lowest I haven't been this hurt since 2010 ! Lol but I'm fine now & I really appreciate everyone writing back !
No problem. Hang tough and be happy. You are who you wish to be. No one
Should ever change you. If you cant be yourself first and foremost
Then there's no excuse to be with someone who doesnt value you for being you.
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Yes men and women BOTH release OXYTOCIN when attracted and falling for someone. However, the huge difference is this.
1. When a woman starts "feeling it" and her Oxytocin is released, she gets more addicted and falls even harder. And this hormone LOWERS stress (CORTISOL LEVELS) in women.
2. When a man starts "feeling it" and his Oxytocin is released, this actually LOWERS his TESTOSTERONE. By doing so, this actually INCREASES his stress (CORTISOL LEVELS). This is the reason why men need to withdraw when they feel they are getting too close. It's simple biology.
The difference is that there are men who understand this to a point and are emotionally mature. Unfortunately, there are many men who will never grow up. Instead of understanding their feelings, they panic.
The key is understanding how men and women not only communicate but how they differ in dealing with emotion.
http://www.marsvenus.com/blog/john-gray/better-sex-for-women



Bullshit. For example Oxytocin is a bonding hormone, not a love hormone. Its level may or may not increase AFTER the love period is over. One dosn't get high on oxytocin, ones gets cosy like in "where are my slippers, honey?"
Oxytocin increases in some men in response to becoming fathers. If it lowers testosterone, that is actually a positive effect, helping them look after their kids, instead of chasing new women or getting into fights!
Cortisol is released during stress. Does NOT cause stress.
Why do ignorants use chemistry and other stuff they do not understand, to justify a stupid theory saying "If he acts like a carefree idiot towards that women , he must be in love with her! " Maybe if he's a 5 year old, long before his nuts started to produce testosterone.
Here's Web MD's summary of what Oxytocin does; it's more than a love hormone. and it's more than just a bonding hormone, as you have stated.
Oxytocin More Than Mere 'Love Hormone'
Hormone Boosts Trust, Empathy, Charitable Donations; Reduces Anxiety and Stress, New Research Shows
By Kathleen Doheny
WebMD Health News Reviewed by Laura J. Martin, MD
Nov. 15, 2010 (San Diego) -- The love hormone oxytocin, known to be plentiful in lactating women and released by men and women during orgasm, appears to do much more, according to new research presented here at the annual meeting of the Society for Neuroscience.
It's also associated with boosting trust and empathy -- to the point of increasing the wish to donate to charitable causes -- and reducing anxiety and stress. It may also improve social functioning in people with autism, although research is scant on that.
One thing's clear: It's no longer just the ''cuddle hormone," says Margaret McCarthy, PhD, a researcher at the University of Maryland School of Medicine who moderated a news conference Sunday that summarized the latest research.
Oxytocin Boosts Happiness
The higher your oxytocin, the higher your happiness and well-being, at least for women, says Paul Zak, PhD, a researcher at Claremont Graduate University in Claremont, Calif.
To test the link, he recruited 60 female college students and drew blood samples before and after they each received a $ 24 gift from a stranger. The women could return a portion of the money to the stranger or not.
Before the experiment, the women also finished a survey about their general disposition and satisfaction with life.
The women who showed a higher increase in oxytocin after receiving the money were the ones likely to say they were satisfied with their lives and shared the most money with the strangers. They also tended to be more trusting.
Oxytocin is known to be important in trust, Zak says.
"Those with higher oxytocin had more sex with fewer partners," he says, reflecting more long-lasting relationships. They were likely to be liked by other people.
But it's yet to be determined whether the oxytocin makes people happy, he says, or that happier people just have more oxytocin.
And what about men? "We don't think [these findings] will generalize to men," he says.
Here's the link at Oxytocin Central: http://oxytocincentral.com/2011/03/daniel-amen-md-discusses-oxytocin/

???Oxytocin is also related to the feelings of closeness a
Could you please cite peer reviewed article from Pub Med. That is the real source for all medical relevant research.
Not interpretation of an interpretation of an interpretation.
Too much effort just to justify that your mentor got a younger groupie, eh?
Oh, and where in the Pub med does it say that men in love act like bastards and women should put up with bullshit? I want to see that too!
BRAINWASHED!
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Could you please cite peer reviewed article from Pub Med. That is the real source for all medical relevant research.
Not interpretation of an interpretation of an interpretation.
Too much effort just to justify that your mentor got a younger groupie, eh?


No, not at all. I work in the medical field, have for over 20 years. So topics as this interest me, that's all.
This is nothing to do with mentor. He's happily married to his wife as much as I am to my husband. But thanks for your concern.
Geez, I don't know what your issues are, but you sure come across as a total B*tch.
If you want to disagree with me or anyone else, fine. Try being civil. It's called emotional maturation.
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Posted by Undine
Could you please cite peer reviewed article from Pub Med. That is the real source for all medical relevant research.
Not interpretation of an interpretation of an interpretation.
Too much effort just to justify that your mentor got a younger groupie, eh?


No, not at all. I work in the medical field, have for over 20 years. So topics as this interest me, that's all.
This is nothing to do with mentor. He's happily married to his wife as much as I am to my husband. But thanks for your concern.
Geez, I don't know what your issues are, but you sure come across as a total B*tch.
If you want to disagree with me or anyone else, fine. Try being civil. It's called emotional maturation.
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Probably for you "emotional maturation" means using pseudoscience to justify bad behaviour.
I'm not concerned about you. I'm concerned about women which may believe that what you are saying has a scientific basis, when in fact you are repeating some speculations. These speculations give the impression that is OK to tolerate being ignored, disrespected, given false hope, etc, claiming that these are sings that men are falling in love, their brain activity changes and so they can't act like decent human beings any longer!
What's next? Justify rape on the basis of some transient neurochemical changes?

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