How to outsmart a Gemini?

This topic was created in the Gemini forum by CaringSagittarius on Monday, January 16, 2017 and has 18 replies.
You can't outsmart them.

Not even the other side of mercury can ?

Just know when to put your foot down.
Forget about outsmarting them. The best result you can hope for is you believe you have outsmarted them, when in truth they still played you like a fiddle. Just ignore the truth Winking

If you don't want to be manipulated, you simply have to recognize when he lays out his dick-sand and stay away from it.
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Posted by JohnTheBaptist100
You need to set boundaries and stick to it.. Make your "yes" mean YES and your "no" mean NO. I had a Gemini ex of many moons... He thought he was smarter than me (poor sod). He got "blindsided"... Mess with a bull and you get the horns...

Sags are too bze being "people pleasers"... They do tonnes of stuff and then moan about it after instead of putting their foot down and standing their ground... Door mats.....
LMFAOO what typa sags do you know?

Sag Suns usually just don't care.

Like really don't care. Just like their gem opposites.
Posted by PootyButt

Geminis, y'all shouldn't be so arrogant. I'm smart enough to know I'm not too smart to be outsmarted. Winking
Is this a common Gemini trait?

For years, I let my ex think I was dumber than what I was. When we divorced, he sat there arrogant as can be thinking he knew all of the divorce laws, and liked to talk down to me. When I finally showed my hand and showed I wasn't as dumb as he thought, he started treating me a whole lot better.

He actually said "Damn I didn't think you had it in you."
be an Aquarius Tongue
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Posted by nikkistar
Posted by PootyButt

Geminis, y'all shouldn't be so arrogant. I'm smart enough to know I'm not too smart to be outsmarted. Winking
Is this a common Gemini trait?

For years, I let my ex think I was dumber than what I was. When we divorced, he sat there arrogant as can be thinking he knew all of the divorce laws, and liked to talk down to me. When I finally showed my hand and showed I wasn't as dumb as he thought, he started treating me a whole lot better.

He actually said "Damn I didn't think you had it in you."
Honestly when Geminis are bragging about how we smart we are, we're usually at least partly joking. I think. I am.Laughing But I have heard people complain about Gemini arrogance, so maybe it's an issue. I am very perceptive of other people, so I've seen how smart other people can be. And conniving! I'm not conniving, which always puts me at a disadvantage. Winking
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I call myself methodical, not conniving. lol

I am a Scorpio. so... lol

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Posted by nikkistar
Posted by PootyButt
Posted by nikkistar
Posted by PootyButt

Geminis, y'all shouldn't be so arrogant. I'm smart enough to know I'm not too smart to be outsmarted. Winking
Is this a common Gemini trait?

For years, I let my ex think I was dumber than what I was. When we divorced, he sat there arrogant as can be thinking he knew all of the divorce laws, and liked to talk down to me. When I finally showed my hand and showed I wasn't as dumb as he thought, he started treating me a whole lot better.

He actually said "Damn I didn't think you had it in you."
Honestly when Geminis are bragging about how we smart we are, we're usually at least partly joking. I think. I am.Laughing But I have heard people complain about Gemini arrogance, so maybe it's an issue. I am very perceptive of other people, so I've seen how smart other people can be. And conniving! I'm not conniving, which always puts me at a disadvantage. Winking
I call myself methodical, not conniving. lol

I am a Scorpio. so... lol

*flashes bewbs*
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Yes.....
Posted by CaringSagittarius
Posted by Sunsetvirgo
Posted by JohnTheBaptist100
You need to set boundaries and stick to it.. Make your "yes" mean YES and your "no" mean NO. I had a Gemini ex of many moons... He thought he was smarter than me (poor sod). He got "blindsided"... Mess with a bull and you get the horns...

Sags are too bze being "people pleasers"... They do tonnes of stuff and then moan about it after instead of putting their foot down and standing their ground... Door mats.....
LMFAOO what typa sags do you know?

Sag Suns usually just don't care.

Like really don't care. Just like their gem opposites.
Yea I really just don't care sometimes, I mean I'm going to the bathroom and he asks me to take his water bottle and fill it up on the way. I'm like "yea sure" because it's on the way so why not? But then slowly I start to do things ALL the TIME, because he expects me not to care, and then I slowly build up resentment for feeling like he never does anything for me, despite how much I do for him. The problem isn't necessarily that I don't want to do things for him and he manipulates me, it's more that he doesn't return the favor in most circumstances, because he's lazy. I mean I don't expect him to do a lot, just every so often, go out of his way to do something nice, because he knows how much I do for him.

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Kudos on noticing that tbh.

Did he ask you to do "small things" here and there before you got into a relationship?

There's this thing in psychology where you

ask people to do small favors for you and they end up

confused into feeling---> "I just did something for this person. That means I care for them."

He may or may not be doing that on purpose but

I was curious if he did that before you two got 'together'.

OP. As a Sag in my opinion one of the best qualities you have going for you is your honesty. Speak to your Gemini and let him know how you are feeling. No one wants to feel like a slave in a relationship and if there is some resentment now.. it's best to get rid of it asap. That shit festers and before you know it, you are arguing over silly small things which turn into daily spats.

One of the healthiest advantages you can hold over your Gemini is your ability to communicate with him. Use it?
Having a man is like having a puppy. If not already house broken you need to train them. Start off with making dinner together... make it fun and enjoyable. Before you know it.... he has surprised you with a dinner when you get home having made it all on his own?
Posted by CaringSagittarius
Posted by Sunsetvirgo
Posted by JohnTheBaptist100
You need to set boundaries and stick to it.. Make your "yes" mean YES and your "no" mean NO. I had a Gemini ex of many moons... He thought he was smarter than me (poor sod). He got "blindsided"... Mess with a bull and you get the horns...

Sags are too bze being "people pleasers"... They do tonnes of stuff and then moan about it after instead of putting their foot down and standing their ground... Door mats.....
LMFAOO what typa sags do you know?

Sag Suns usually just don't care.

Like really don't care. Just like their gem opposites.
Yea I really just don't care sometimes, I mean I'm going to the bathroom and he asks me to take his water bottle and fill it up on the way. I'm like "yea sure" because it's on the way so why not? But then slowly I start to do things ALL the TIME, because he expects me not to care, and then I slowly build up resentment for feeling like he never does anything for me, despite how much I do for him. The problem isn't necessarily that I don't want to do things for him and he manipulates me, it's more that he doesn't return the favor in most circumstances, because he's lazy. I mean I don't expect him to do a lot, just every so often, go out of his way to do something nice, because he knows how much I do for him.

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You typed out the problem very well. Everything that you just said to me, say it to him.
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Posted by Sunsetvirgo
You can't outsmart them.

Not even the other side of mercury can ?

Just know when to put your foot down.
Lol sure. Geminis arent that smart ya know? Big Grin they think they are tho, which is good. Even if you outsmart them they wont believe its true so thats a big advantage.
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Mmm yes and no.

That's the delusional side though, so even if they're wrong, the fact that they believe they're right is so strong, you begin to believe it too.
Posted by JohnTheBaptist100
Posted by Sunsetvirgo
Posted by JohnTheBaptist100
You need to set boundaries and stick to it.. Make your "yes" mean YES and your "no" mean NO. I had a Gemini ex of many moons... He thought he was smarter than me (poor sod). He got "blindsided"... Mess with a bull and you get the horns...

Sags are too bze being "people pleasers"... They do tonnes of stuff and then moan about it after instead of putting their foot down and standing their ground... Door mats.....
LMFAOO what typa sags do you know?

Sag Suns usually just don't care.

Like really don't care. Just like their gem opposites.
I know plenty of sag suns and moons... At least dealing with earth signs that are door mats from what I can see.
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You're reaching far to try to find a correlation between earth signs and doormats.

How did earth signs even get into this ?

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Posted by cvurko
Posted by Sunsetvirgo
You can't outsmart them.

Not even the other side of mercury can ?

Just know when to put your foot down.
Lol sure. Geminis arent that smart ya know? Big Grin they think they are tho, which is good. Even if you outsmart them they wont believe its true so thats a big advantage.
Mmm yes and no.

That's the delusional side though, so even if they're wrong, the fact that they believe they're right is so strong, you begin to believe it too.
Lol, i certainly dont start believing im wrong when i tell my Gemini friends that they are and see how difficult it is for them to process it. but then again im on par with their intellect
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As am I. Mercury ya know.

They just can be very persistent and I truly just don't feel the need to be bothered so I let it go.

What's your sign?
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Posted by cvurko
Posted by Sunsetvirgo
You can't outsmart them.

Not even the other side of mercury can ?

Just know when to put your foot down.
Lol sure. Geminis arent that smart ya know? Big Grin they think they are tho, which is good. Even if you outsmart them they wont believe its true so thats a big advantage.
Mmm yes and no.

That's the delusional side though, so even if they're wrong, the fact that they believe they're right is so strong, you begin to believe it too.
Lol, i certainly dont start believing im wrong when i tell my Gemini friends that they are and see how difficult it is for them to process it. but then again im on par with their intellect
As am I. Mercury ya know.

They just can be very persistent and I truly just don't feel the need to be bothered so I let it go.

What's your sign?
Pisces. Merc is in Aqua and i have strong pluto and scorpio influence.

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Posted by CaringSagittarius
I just want to make sure my boyfriend doesn't manipulate me. I mean I'm too nice sometimes and end up doing a lot of things for him, and I want to be there for him, but I also want to set boundaries. I want to make sure he knows he can't walk all over me, and I think the only way to do that is to learn to outsmart him. I'm a Sagittarius, so I'm not stupid, but I'm nice.
The only sign that can 'play' with us is Scorpio. Thye are steps ahead of us just because they are so freakin' intuitive. Big Grin

Forget about manipulation. If I have to think how to outsmart my partner that is not relationship, I leave and shut the door .
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Posted by CaringSagittarius
I just want to make sure my boyfriend doesn't manipulate me. I mean I'm too nice sometimes and end up doing a lot of things for him, and I want to be there for him, but I also want to set boundaries. I want to make sure he knows he can't walk all over me, and I think the only way to do that is to learn to outsmart him. I'm a Sagittarius, so I'm not stupid, but I'm nice.
The only sign that can 'play' with us is Scorpio. Thye are steps ahead of us just because they are so freakin' intuitive. Big Grin

Forget about manipulation. If I have to think how to outsmart my partner that is not relationship, I leave and shut the door .
From my point of view, Scorpios are strategic and Geminis are tactical. Gemini will win the battle. Scorpio will win the war.

But there are other signs who can beat us in various ways. A Virgo can go straight for the jugular, verbally, and knock a Gemini on her ass. A Pisces can look you right in the eye and lie, if so inclined. It would be so much better to just not try to beat one another.
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Mind over soul. Intellect over Intuition. Thinking vs Emotion.

We should just integrate all of this, they are all awesome. Instead of battling..

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