Update: On the infamous Scorpio

Alright so Ive been MIA for a little bit mostly because of what happened last Friday. As you all know I came to this board regarding a Scorpio man. I have an update and it was absolutely awkward.

First I want to start off with how I have been idealizing what it could have been or how things should have worked out in my mind. Unfortunately for us Gemini's we tend to completely comb over every small thing in our mind and find a logical reason why things didn't work out. For the past 7 months I have gone through everything. I found myself putting him in a place where he didn't belong. He is what he is regardless and as most females do we fall in love with the IDEA rather than what is. I admit it.

Friday I get this email nothing in the body of the email except "Hi" that was also in the subject. Im thinking great. Now mind you this is how he does it. Testing the waters. Of course I was starting to boil because Ive had plenty of time to think about how he should have written me. Maybe an apology? Maybe how are you doing? Nope just hi. So im already pissed off. I keep my mouth shut. He adds me back to skype, yahoo, pretty much everything. Later on that evening he gets ballsy and calls me on Skype. Tells me about how he has been and then tells me he has been spying on me (on my social media accounts) and goes "So I see you haven't been updating for over a month". That pissed me off. Yeah don't actually TALK to me just spy the whole time. Im still quiet.

Tells me about his new dog (when he knows Im a cat person) and apparently he gave both his cats to his aunt which made me mad too. Then he starts probing me I think what he really wanted was to find out if I was dating and I still didn't say much. When a Gemini doesn't talk to you, you know there is something wrong. He kept giving me the option that I didn't have to talk to him he just wanted to check on me. I guess he got all alarmed when he didn't see me updating my pages (which now are private and locked because thats bullshit). He keeps talking and yep Im not interested. I guess the universe finally answered or got sick of me thinking about him and goes "here look hes a douchebag check it out". I finally ask him one question. I say "Do you not understand how things are different now? What could I possibly be upset about with you? Seven months and this is it? Have you even thought about why I am upset?" He answers..."No".

I hang up the Skype call, remove him from everything, make all my pages private, take down every single trace of me, and vanish. The thing I am really livid about is that he fucking stalks me and I guess that serves it's purpose. Yeah don't actually TALK to me. Just stalk me and that's good enough. No fucking way buddy. Nope.

Done. Im still pissed off but w/ever. It's a chapter that is now closed for good. No more. He even had the gall to say "Isn't this how it works we don't talk and one of us comes back eventually. You came back the last time so I guess it's my turn". No it's not how it fucking works. He said the reason why he was gone for seven months was because he was "mad". Thats bullshit. Bull fucking shit. Look I get people get mad but seven motherfucking months? No sir. Nuh ugh. You talk it out like adults. But now that I know you're a coward you won't be having NONE of this prize.

Im proud of myself though I held my composure even though I wanted to rip his face off and leave him to the buzzards somewhere in a no name desert. I didn't say much, kept my mouth shut, and then removed him. I dont think there is any need for an explanation. If he wants to talk he can contact me like a man.

Posted by tiziani
He lacks social skills with you. Did you see him as a fixer upper project ?
Either way you'll be good. I had the same problem before with someone and I just blocked her from everythingw.

You know Tiz now that I think about it more than likely. Also I felt like how can I not communicate effectively? A Gemini with Mercury in Gemini is failing at communication? So I hung on longer than I should have because I really couldn't understand how I wasn't getting through to him. It was like talking to a brick wall. Some of my friends think he's a sociopath. I don't even care at this point but I feel almost liberated but at an expense mostly my ego due to me finally realizing that he's not emotionally available. Completely lacks the skills to hold an adult conversation with me too. I guess that's what I get for talking to a younger man.

Posted by tiziani
He lacks social skills with you. Did you see him as a fixer upper project ?
Either way you'll be good. I had the same problem before with someone and I just blocked her from everythingw.

Tiz - So what happened with that girl then? Was she stalking you too? Just not communicating effectively and using the stalking as a way to figure out what you're doing. UHHH! That makes me so irritated.

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Posted by tiziani
He lacks social skills with you. Did you see him as a fixer upper project ?
Either way you'll be good. I had the same problem before with someone and I just blocked her from everythingw.

I feel almost liberated but at an expense mostly my ego due to me finally realizing that he's not emotionally available. Completely lacks the skills to hold an adult conversation with me too.

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I know the feeling and it's worked in reverse for me as well. The process of really letting go can sometimes happen so quickly you wondered why did it took me so long....🙂

Posted by tiziani
Yeah it was as if she wanted us to be on the outskirts of each other's life but not actually in it. Yet everytime I'd leave it be she'd come back with some big story about how I wasn't paying her any attention. When I think about it this is why I don't like mixing social media with personal relationships anymore. The quality of communication just bottoms out before you even know it.

Yeah totally understand. This is the main reason why im not all over FB and things like that. I keep it very private. That one he had no access to but he had other access to a few blogs I would be on talking to others. I took those down and made them private. Also my twitch account when I used to play and stream games is gone now too. Pretty much everything. Blocked him from Skype. It just annoys me. Im pretty angry about it like how can someone be ok with just reading peoples stuff and not actually talking to them?

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He lacks social skills with you. Did you see him as a fixer upper project ?
Either way you'll be good. I had the same problem before with someone and I just blocked her from everythingw.

I feel almost liberated but at an expense mostly my ego due to me finally realizing that he's not emotionally available. Completely lacks the skills to hold an adult conversation with me too.

I know the feeling and it's worked in reverse for me as well. The process of really letting go can sometimes happen so quickly you wondered why did it took me so long....🙂

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A little mad at myself for this too like okay? What was I thinking? I was so focused on trying to communicate that I pretty much ignored the red flags.

Posted by Neurotoxin
This is what happens when a person who thinks with their heart gets into a relationship with a person who tries to feel with their brain.

One person can't come up with a better answer than "Because that's just the way I am" and the other person just can't accept that sometimes the answer is actually just "Because that's just the way I am".

I didn't accept it so it's the end of this story. Im not putting up with it. I think I deserve a little more than scraps. If he can't meet me half way then fuck him. Also Gemini's do have a heart we just don't give it out to people that don't deserve it.

Posted by geminicandle
Wow, what a crazy story Xin!!
I need some coffee though before I can compose my thoughts.

Fucking Scorpio stalkers. Why do they always have to do that shit? That is the reason I had to delete my facebook and now dxp is my social media entertainment:/

I won't lie I'm pretty pissed off about it. I don't mind stalking but it doesn't take the place of actually talking to me. I guess he got all "alarmed" because he couldn't keep tabs on me. Just sitting in silence reading my things but not actually TALKING about what the fuck happened seven months ago. That really turned my hair into snakes like Medusa. Boy I was pissed off when he said that. I still can't believe I kept my mouth shut. I don't think anything should be said you know? Since he loves the silence he can do that all by his fucking self. I took down every single trace of me not that there was a shit ton. I feel like it's cheating someone almost. Out of an actual functional friendship (even if that was the only outcome).

Posted by tiziani
I gotta think it's the Scorp influence within you that doesn't like the spy treatment getting reversed on you too 😛 You're an 8th house Sun if I recall.

I don't have much Scorp influence (even if I'm a Scorpio in progressive astrology) but whenever I get that creep feeling someone is doing the voyeur thing on my life I always recall the Diddy lyric:

"Trying to peep where I live at, where I sleep, where my kids at... DON'T do that" 😈

See the thing is once I made up my mind about you that's it. Gemini's we move on fast but Id like to get a few stings in with some verbal ammunition. But for him he will get his silence. I didn't say anything after he said "no" as far as him not getting why I was upset. Fuck him. Gone. I wish I could have torn him apart but I think this might drive the point deeper or maybe just not at all seeing hes a fucking moron when it comes to "communication". I have both my sun and mercury in Gemini but in the VIII house and I will cut you with some angry verbal attacks. Super hard for me to actually keep quiet when this was going on. There is NO logic behind any of his shit. Ive thought about it for a long time. What could he possibly doing? Not a god damn thing thats what. You can't rationalize the irrational. Im just livid that he snooped on me. That's NOT sufficient or a replacement for actually sustaining a working relationship.

Posted by Neurotoxin
This is what happens when a person who thinks with their heart gets into a relationship with a person who tries to feel with their brain.

One person can't come up with a better answer than "Because that's just the way I am" and the other person just can't accept that sometimes the answer is actually just "Because that's just the way I am".

And Im not sure if you actually read anything about this man but I feel you are sticking up for him and it's pissing me off. I know you are talking about me when it comes to the "brain" comment and I don't appreciate that. If he had a heart he would figure out why I was pissed off at him. If he HAD a heart he wouldn't just give me scraps like im supposed to be OH SO thankful for his half assed attemps at "communicating" with me. Oh yes because "hi" in the body of the email and the subject is REALLY feeling with his heart right?

Posted by geminicandle
So wait...he only said "hi" in subject line with nothing else?
Lol, wtf? Who does that?

To a Gemini girl?? I wonder where his mercury is. Probably a scorpio or something retarded like that.

Anyway, you did the best thing to block him everywhere and to run and hide. He is gonna go cray-cray now. I hope he doesn't trace you here!

GC - Actually yes his mercury is Scorpio. He just sits there and it's so hard to explain like he follows me around all over the place but doesn't say a word and expects me to be ok with just that. I mean...WTF

Nah he won't trace me here. He's not that perceptive. He likes the familiar so he would creep my blogs, video game stuff (when I used to play), my stream channels, etc. I just think it's weird how he's all "concerned" cause I didn't update. Hes like OMG where did she go! OH GODS WHAT IF SHE HAS A NEW MAN! Pff he wouldn't do anything about it or ask. When he asks "what are you up to" he expects you to tell him if you are dating which I didn't. I know his "code" language. It's retarded.

Posted by Neurotoxin
I'm not sticking up for anyone. I'm just speaking generally.

Fact is, that's a clown move on his part.

And yes...just "Hi" is in fact an emotional response. He's hurt (whether justified or not) and he's trying to open up in an awkward way. I can't be sure what his play is, or what he's expecting...only he knows that.

I'd never do that, but I can see what he's trying to do. It's not rational, and that's why it pisses you off. And rightfully so. You simply can't understand it.

There's nothing wrong with feeling with your brain. It's who you are. Just like I can barely make an unemotional choice. It's just that way...because.

But the more a Gem tries to understand why a Scorp acts the way they, the more the Gem gets confused because we are not logical.

And this is why I'm positive Gem-Scorp will never work.

Still I think you should read it and Im not sure how you even feel that "hi" is an emotional response. It's nothing. It's just digging in my GD business because he can't follow me on my media sites. Why does he even give a flying fuck? Seven months not one word until I up and just stop updating. Oh NOW you wanna know what's going on with me? We aren't friends and I don't have the same feelings for you. Maybe he should have thought about that BEFORE he pulled his shit. What I am really focused on is whether or not it is positive treatment and it's not. That no one can deny. So it is what it is and I won't accept crap behavior, vanishing acts, emotional unavailability or issues with communication. If you want a girlfriend you MUST learn to communicate.

Posted by geminicandle
I think you should shed a tear or two and keep it moving...

Already did after I hung up on him. For like 3 minutes then it was over. I needed closure and that was it. It sucked but I got my answer. NEXT! Going to start stalking a Leo or something or maybe an Aries 😄

Yeah I know I'm looking for something new! Definitely looking for some fire signs! GC we should go gather all the fire boys! YAY!

Posted by tiziani
That's the thing about Air signs. We just need those fire placements from time to time.

When I'm talking with the person I'm in love with and she gets pissed off, it just turns me right up 😈 Can't abuse it, can't live without it.

Totally true. Id really like me a Leo. I have never actually dated one but the ones that always like me are the watery lions. Drives me bananas because of it. Like Cancer rising or moons hanging around. Mff...Me no likey!

Posted by geminicandle
Scorpio guys can go fuck them selves with their outdated rhetoric.

(everyone except Neurotoxin)

God, I feel like I am more pissed than Xin! Hahhahahahaha

At least you share in my anger. Im still pretty upset about it but not in a sad way more like WTF is his problem? I mean REALLY? SERIOUSLY? Good luck on finding ANY female to hang around with you.

OMG no way LOL! My last two were also Scorpio and Cancer LOL! Seems like karma has jokes! I think it was a lesson for the both of us!

Posted by xygeneration
I wonder if its the ego that's hurt or you actually caused something to hurt him or he has his walls up for a reason

No he's always been like that.

Sorry about your situation Xin, and I can't disagree with a single person. The crazy part might come and it's just horrible. Hope he continues to sit there rather than blow up cause it so can get ugly fast. My ex had sun and venus in scorpio, totally extreme personality, but he was a really good communicator.

That didn't stop the other traits from appearing, full force. But he would check himself once he exploded or you let him know that you're not going to entertain him and you push back. Peace 🙂

Posted by geminicandle
I like Xin too.

She deserves a sexy Sag guy😄

Kidding lmaooooo!

Oh HELLS NO. LOL!

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Posted by xygeneration
I think some scorps are scared to test their depths. Especially if they were hurt in the past. So it may work and then suddenly they'd get cold feet. Some people are like that, too comfortable in the dark bc they've become used to it. They think that everything will end amyway, might as well fuck it ip orbbe at the end already.

Yeah, but who wants to deal with scared people? Especially if he is a guy? I need a man to be a man. Preferably more aggressive than even I am!

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+infinity!

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My ex scorp hated my observations, so he used to tell me to shut up but he said many times I was on the ball with things. He just didn't want to accept it, then he ends up in situations that were really fucked up. Like, he would rather trust the darkness than trust the light.

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Oh my goodness. This! Is sooooo true!

I won't even lie there are some VERY good looking cowboys but that is further west. Im in the Dallas area so you see them here and there but they are located mostly on the outskirts of Dallas and in Ft. Worth 🙂

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I didn't accept it so it's the end of this story. Im not putting up with it. I think I deserve a little more than scraps. If he can't meet me half way then fuck him. Also Gemini's do have a heart we just don't give it out to people that don't deserve it.

BOOM! I really like this. Xin, good for you. Don't settle.

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Thank you thank you! Totally not settling. I definitely deserve more than that.

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I think I became Scorpio-nic by proxy. Ha!

You must have absorbed some Scorpio DNA

He probably installed some chip in my brain and injected me while I slept with suspicious substances...wait, this sounds dirty. Nvm!

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I know right probably did and hes tracking your every move but GOD FORBID he actually wants to conversate with you! OH NOES!

XY - I don't know but if you read my post he was all over my social media pages and stalked the shit out of it. That was the whole point of him writing me in the first place. I was like W...T...F

I wish he would have talked on the phone but he just never wanted a cell phone (Scorpio). He moved out to CA for grad school and just refused to get one. Maybe because he's cheap? I have no idea. But he would always want to call me on skype. Nope. I just dont enjoy it you know? UHHH! Annoyed! If anything people should know how much Gem's like our phones and just gadgets in general.

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Posted by Xin
I hang up the Skype call, remove him from everything, make all my pages private, take down every single trace of me, and vanish. The thing I am really livid about is that he fucking stalks me and I guess that serves it's purpose. Yeah don't actually TALK to me. Just stalk me and that's good enough. No fucking way buddy. Nope.

Done. Im still pissed off but w/ever. It's a chapter that is now closed for good. No more. He even had the gall to say "Isn't this how it works we don't talk and one of us comes back eventually. You came back the last time so I guess it's my turn". No it's not how it fucking works. He said the reason why he was gone for seven months was because he was "mad". Thats bullshit. Bull fucking shit. Look I get people get mad but seven motherfucking months? No sir. Nuh ugh. You talk it out like adults. But now that I know you're a coward you won't be having NONE of this prize.

Im proud of myself though I held my composure even though I wanted to rip his face off and leave him to the buzzards somewhere in a no name desert. I didn't say much, kept my mouth shut, and then removed him. I dont think there is any need for an explanation. If he wants to talk he can contact me like a man.

That's a Scorpio trait even though Neuro will say he hasn't, he has been out of the game awhile. Every single Scorpio I know keeps an eye on their ex for a while. Just b/c the relationship is over doesn't mean he just stops caring, my exes that are water signs all keep an eye on my page. I know b/c well they have told me. LOL

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Well you must be the lucky one. I didnt get a word about him caring. All I got was fragments (see original post here) and about how HE was doing. Then asked me about myself and then proceeded to bulldoze me with his life even though I didnt ask shit.

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10/27/87 Frankfurt Germany (Time: 16:00)

Oh, is he German?? Or just born there?

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Just born there. Has a military background like I do (family wise).

Jenn - He has zero language. Its just silence and staring at you, creeping around, stalking and I guess that's love? Nope not having that. I dont know any female that is ok with just that.

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Jenn - He has zero language. Its just silence and staring at you, creeping around, stalking and I guess that's love? Nope not having that. I dont know any female that is ok with just that.

How in the hell did he ever attract you then?

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Completely opposite. Brooding dark eyed man in the corner sitting alone. DUR! LOL! And there I am all zippity doo da in my heels throwing handfuls of sparkles. So yeah opposites attract as you know.

His moon is VERY cold. He's just not a very warm person either. Just stand offish, silent, calculating, and he even told me he was very attracted to me because I am everything hes not. But I dont know how he could possibly sustain an actual working relationship when he can't even talk to people.

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Jenn - He has zero language. Its just silence and staring at you, creeping around, stalking and I guess that's love? Nope not having that. I dont know any female that is ok with just that.

How in the hell did he ever attract you then?

Completely opposite. Brooding dark eyed man in the corner sitting alone. DUR! LOL! And there I am all zippity doo da in my heels throwing handfuls of sparkles. So yeah opposites attract as you know.

Will you make that mistake again?

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Depends. Possibly. Doesn't mean I should rule everyone out just because one guy is a total friggin asshole. That's making others pay for a crime that they didn't commit.

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Jenn - He has zero language. Its just silence and staring at you, creeping around, stalking and I guess that's love? Nope not having that. I dont know any female that is ok with just that.

How in the hell did he ever attract you then?

Completely opposite. Brooding dark eyed man in the corner sitting alone. DUR! LOL! And there I am all zippity doo da in my heels throwing handfuls of sparkles. So yeah opposites attract as you know.

Will you make that mistake again?

Depends. Possibly. Doesn't mean I should rule everyone out just because one guy is a total friggin asshole. That's making others pay for a crime that they didn't commit.

No no no....

LEARN from it.

There's a reason why my wife isn't a tall red head Gemini with big bouncy boobs...

Cuz I was burned TWICE by them.

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See I don't think that's fair though. Why limit yourself because two ladies did that? I won't rule out Scorpio entirely because everyone has potential and different placements.

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His moon is VERY cold. He's just not a very warm person either. Just stand offish, silent, calculating, and he even told me he was very attracted to me because I am everything hes not. But I dont know how he could possibly sustain an actual working relationship when he can't even talk to people.

I think some people have a hard time communicating in a typical way.

Cusper libscorp with earth moon though are hard workers. They get frustrated trying to explain when they are showing you what they are trying to say. They are very observant and will speak a few words. They seem odd.

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Yeah but he took it to a degree that no one can deal with. I think this has a lot to do with his past too and his family which was extremely turbulent.

It's not like we don't remember either. Gemini's we do. And we file that away and when you show up out comes the paper work.

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Jenn - He has zero language. Its just silence and staring at you, creeping around, stalking and I guess that's love? Nope not having that. I dont know any female that is ok with just that.

How in the hell did he ever attract you then?

How long did you date him Xin?

I just can't imagine why you would choose to date someone who couldn't talk at all. I mean there had to be be someone intellectual stimulation at some point right?

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Known him three years in October. You think I would have right? Found something to talk about or intellectual stimulation. Well he loved to ask questions and read my short stories I wrote. That was nice. We dated on and off seriously about a year or two. But for three years hes been in and out of my life.

Moon - Libra
Venus & Mars - Taurus

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You have a water moon don't you XY?

Yeah

And that's why.

So? Even if I have an air moon still doesn't mean that water signs should assume that they are the only ones who can feel.

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This...Cause we do have feelings tyvm.

Posted by Neurotoxin
Scorpio Mercury almost eliminates any hope of good communication though.

Yeah pretty much. He was just never talkative, didn't talk about anything deep, and was silent constantly.

Posted by kraft
kudos to you guys for keeping the discussion going...

I've never seen the gem board so active.

and I've been here a loooooong time.

grandpa Gem.

I know right. Im happy it's bustling lately. Nice to see fellow Gem's joining in!

Wonder where GC sprinted off to. I think she's in a bad mood. I think I might possibly be also. I just scrapped with a Taurus boy. He annoys me! Hes all like "Yeah I should come around more often" but then proceeds to ignore me because OMG he's playing the new "Payday 2 game". What a douche. I pretty much told him off. Not having that shit either. I mean really? Why do guys choose video games over girls. I think it's fucking retarded. If I was a guy id be all about the ladies rather than being a homo with th rest of my no job butt buddies playing video games all day protecting our virginity.

Posted by Neurotoxin
Xin,

You need to find some men.

Not boys.

IKR. When do guys actually leave that realm? I mean FFS. I know some guys who are in their late 20's still fucking around with video games and their bros.

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Xin,

You need to find some men.

Not boys.

IKR. When do guys actually leave that realm? I mean FFS. I know some guys who are in their late 20's still fucking around with video games and their bros.

The ones who stopped playing video games are taken.

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Ok so you know you basically just contradicted yourself.

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Xin,

You need to find some men.

Not boys.

IKR. When do guys actually leave that realm? I mean FFS. I know some guys who are in their late 20's still fucking around with video games and their bros.

The ones who stopped playing video games are taken.

Ok so you know you basically just contradicted yourself.

No, I didn't.

You can't find find any guys not playing video games because they are already hooked up.

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Yes you did. Why even mention to me that I need to find some men when just a few minutes later you tell me all the ones who arent playing video games are taken.

So how am I supposed to "find" them when they are all taken? HUH! Yeah exactly.

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So how am I supposed to "find" them when they are all taken? HUH! Yeah exactly.

Luck?

Craigslist?

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Yeah but it's still a contradiction. Telling me to go find some men when you know good and well a few minutes later you tell me they are all taken. And Craigslist? Are you stupid or something? You already know that post that was made a while back about that one guy looking at sex ads with a girlfriend. And luck doesnt exist.