What's with this Gemini guy?

This topic was created in the Gemini forum by hannahmontigo on Saturday, August 12, 2017 and has 23 replies.
Background

- We both don't live in the same city

- He comes to my city 1-2 times a month for work

- He used to text me everyday and his replies were almost always immediate


So I find it puzzling that he seemed very interested in the first month over text and kept emphasising how I was interesting, funny, sarcastic, independent and someone whom he feels he had chemistry with. He claimed what we had going was different and special. And what i noticed is that whenever he drinks, he tends to make a lot of confessions. In one occasion he randomly called cos he was drunk and after hanging up the phone he told me he loved hearing my voice and that it makes him smile. In another occasion he said that I should meet his best friend (but it didn't happen at the last minute due to unforeseen circumstances).


Of all the dates we'v been on (5-6), he has never made a move on me. Me having gone on many dates with men, it is normal for a guy to make an advancement at some point but this gemini guy was not. A little bit frustrating if you'd ask. Passive you think? He has mentioned before he naturally just doesn't have much initiative. Not sure if that's an excuse but my ex bf was actually at that level of passiveness where he wouldn't initiative anything so I would like to give him the benefit of doubt. I don't think he's shy because he's an extrovert and is pretty chatty and funny.


The most recent time we met was in his city (usually he would be at mine) and towards the end of the night, I thought I should ' be the man' and invited him over to my room which he willingly did. Well not much needed to elaborate from there. He was very kissy (Not sure if that even means anything because most guys who are just in it for the sex kiss minimally based on my experience).


Then two days later on my flight back we were exchanging good byes over text n that we would see each other again next month when he comes to my city. I didn't hear from him for a whole week after. I'm not the pushy sort so I didn't text him either. A week to me was a long given how we used to text everyday.


Just as I was going to conclude that I wasn't going to hear from him again because maybe he had already slept with me, he texted me asking me how I was and where I had disappeared to. I told him I thought he was the one who disappeared. Basically we both thought that the whole 'goodbye see u soon' was a polite way of asking each other f**k off and end things. He asked if I really think he's such a douche...


Halfway through he started to get tipsy (he admitted it) and said that I was screwing with his mind during the week I didn't text and that he didn't like it. He called me terrible. On my end I thought he was the one screwing with mine. He later concluded that we both just had communication issues and that someone needed to man up and ask what happened, which he did. He bid me good night and said he would text the next day.


Next day he texted but took hours to reply despite being online from time to time. I asked if his drunk words the night before was a sober man's thoughts... he said of cos and that I needed to be more optimistic.


Is this a typical gemini behaviour? Why is he being so complicated? He's usually more expressive about his feelings when he drinks but when he's sober it's as if he has this wall. I've had my share of experience with players and they are easy to identify. With this guy it's honestly very confusing because there are a lot of things he says that seem really genuine, more so when he drinks... but I'm not sure if he is just a master of deceit?


Hard to understand his behaviour it's like he's interested but he is not at the same time. If he isn't then why does he still reply my messages (despite taking hours these days). He will never leave any messages un-replied. He'll still ask me what I'm up to and stuff. Beats me.
What are his and yours placements?
You initiated. He was waiting for you to carry on. He still does, most likely.


What is so complicated? Do you know what you want from him, apart from sex?
Posted by Moonbutter
What are his and yours placements?
You mean geographically or...? Beijing and Shanghai, we're both expats working in those cities
Posted by Undine
You initiated. He was waiting for you to carry on. He still does, most likely.


What is so complicated? Do you know what you want from him, apart from sex?
That he used to text everyday and then suddenly the frequency dropped tremendously. What's weirder is him texting after a week of MIA, telling me I was screwing w his mind blabla and then now he has disappeared again w my most recent msg unread for 2 days lol.


To answer your question...well I'm actually open, I mean I thought we had a good thing going and it wasn't really leading towards the sex direction based on the past dates and the things he would say to me. I guess I would like to get to know him better but being aggressive or desperate is just not my style . I have got quite bit of an ego and hate rejections.
Posted by hannahmontigo
Posted by Moonbutter
What are his and yours placements?
You mean geographically or...? Beijing and Shanghai, we're both expats working in those cities
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No, your astrological placements
Posted by carrazeda
Posted by hannahmontigo
Posted by Moonbutter
What are his and yours placements?
You mean geographically or...? Beijing and Shanghai, we're both expats working in those cities
No, your astrological placements
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His:


Sun Gemini 5° 53' in house 10

Moon Aquarius 23° 34' in house 6

Mercury Gemini 0° 51' in house 9

Venus Gemini 19° 34' in house 10

Mars Cancer 17° 20' in house 11

Jupiter Gemini 15° 27' in house 10

Saturn Capricorn 13° 1' in house 5

Uranus Capricorn 4° 26' in house 5

Neptune Capricorn 11° 54' in house 5

Pluto Scorpio 13° 10' in house 3

Ascendant Virgo 0° 57' in house 1

Midheaven Gemini 2° 19' in house 10

Node True Aquarius 29° 34' in house 6



Mine:


Sun Capricorn 25° 13' in house 10

Moon Sagittarius 12° 53' in house 9

Mercury Aquarius 9° 43' in house 11

Venus Pisces 0° 36' in house 11

Mars Sagittarius 5° 0' in house 8

Jupiter Aries 21° 27' in house 1

Saturn Sagittarius 27° 10' in house 9

Uranus Sagittarius 28° 32' in house 9

Neptune Capricorn 8° 21' in house 10

Pluto Scorpio 12° 19' in house 8

Ascendant Aries 9° 32' in house 1

Midheaven Capricorn 7° 58' in house 10

Node True Pisces 25° 4' in house 12
Posted by Moonbutter
What are his and yours placements?
Sun Gemini 5° 53' in house 10

Moon Aquarius 23° 34' in house 6

Mercury Gemini 0° 51' in house 9

Venus Gemini 19° 34' in house 10

Mars Cancer 17° 20' in house 11

Jupiter Gemini 15° 27' in house 10

Saturn Capricorn 13° 1' in house 5

Uranus Capricorn 4° 26' in house 5

Neptune Capricorn 11° 54' in house 5

Pluto Scorpio 13° 10' in house 3

Ascendant Virgo 0° 57' in house 1

Midheaven Gemini 2° 19' in house 10

Node True Aquarius 29° 34' in house 6



Mine:


Sun Capricorn 25° 13' in house 10

Moon Sagittarius 12° 53' in house 9

Mercury Aquarius 9° 43' in house 11

Venus Pisces 0° 36' in house 11

Mars Sagittarius 5° 0' in house 8

Jupiter Aries 21° 27' in house 1

Saturn Sagittarius 27° 10' in house 9

Uranus Sagittarius 28° 32' in house 9

Neptune Capricorn 8° 21' in house 10

Pluto Scorpio 12° 19' in house 8

Ascendant Aries 9° 32' in house 1

Midheaven Capricorn 7° 58' in house 10

Node True Pisces 25° 4' in house 12
Posted by hannahmontigo
Background

- We both don't live in the same city

- He comes to my city 1-2 times a month for work

- He used to text me everyday and his replies were almost always immediate


So I find it puzzling that he seemed very interested in the first month over text and kept emphasising how I was interesting, funny, sarcastic, independent and someone whom he feels he had chemistry with. He claimed what we had going was different and special. And what i noticed is that whenever he drinks, he tends to make a lot of confessions. In one occasion he randomly called cos he was drunk and after hanging up the phone he told me he loved hearing my voice and that it makes him smile. In another occasion he said that I should meet his best friend (but it didn't happen at the last minute due to unforeseen circumstances).


Of all the dates we'v been on (5-6), he has never made a move on me. Me having gone on many dates with men, it is normal for a guy to make an advancement at some point but this gemini guy was not. A little bit frustrating if you'd ask. Passive you think? He has mentioned before he naturally just doesn't have much initiative. Not sure if that's an excuse but my ex bf was actually at that level of passiveness where he wouldn't initiative anything so I would like to give him the benefit of doubt. I don't think he's shy because he's an extrovert and is pretty chatty and funny.


The most recent time we met was in his city (usually he would be at mine) and towards the end of the night, I thought I should ' be the man' and invited him over to my room which he willingly did. Well not much needed to elaborate from there. He was very kissy (Not sure if that even means anything because most guys who are just in it for the sex kiss minimally based on my experience).


Then two days later on my flight back we were exchanging good byes over text n that we would see each other again next month when he comes to my city. I didn't hear from him for a whole week after. I'm not the pushy sort so I didn't text him either. A week to me was a long given how we used to text everyday.


Just as I was going to conclude that I wasn't going to hear from him again because maybe he had already slept with me, he texted me asking me how I was and where I had disappeared to. I told him I thought he was the one who disappeared. Basically we both thought that the whole 'goodbye see u soon' was a polite way of asking each other f**k off and end things. He asked if I really think he's such a douche...


Halfway through he started to get tipsy (he admitted it) and said that I was screwing with his mind during the week I didn't text and that he didn't like it. He called me terrible. On my end I thought he was the one screwing with mine. He later concluded that we both just had communication issues and that someone needed to man up and ask what happened, which he did. He bid me good night and said he would text the next day.


Next day he texted but took hours to reply despite being online from time to time. I asked if his drunk words the night before was a sober man's thoughts... he said of cos and that I needed to be more optimistic.


Is this a typical gemini behaviour? Why is he being so complicated? He's usually more expressive about his feelings when he drinks but when he's sober it's as if he has this wall. I've had my share of experience with players and they are easy to identify. With this guy it's honestly very confusing because there are a lot of things he says that seem really genuine, more so when he drinks... but I'm not sure if he is just a master of deceit?


Hard to understand his behaviour it's like he's interested but he is not at the same time. If he isn't then why does he still reply my messages (despite taking hours these days). He will never leave any messages un-replied. He'll still ask me what I'm up to and stuff. Beats me.
That's definitely normal for us. I totally understand him. We don't express our true feelings to anyone and if we do the alcohol helps take the edge off. The time we aren't reaching out to u we're waiting on your move. When we ain't initiating any advancements we're giving u a chance but when u get us alone behind closed doors the other twin comes out lol.
Ooh hehasthat Cancer Mars... he's gonna need you to pursue gently.
And that gem merc, means he's going to want regular communication.
Posted by TaurusinTexas
And that gem merc, means he's going to want regular communication.
Yup and varied. Gemini is work at first but totally worth it ?
Posted by TaurusinTexas
And that gem merc, means he's going to want regular communication.
It's hard to maintain regular communication when he recently just became inconsistent. And when I pull back and not take any initiative, he reacts (when he drinks at least). When i decide to be prompt, he becomes inconsistent again. It's confusing me. lol What does he want????/
Posted by Moonbutter
Ooh hehasthat Cancer Mars... he's gonna need you to pursue gently.
Pursue gently so give him all the space he needs? Are cancer in mars generally very passive? Cos it feels like it and he has admitted to being so... but not sure if it's just an excuse.
Posted by Cobyco
Posted by hannahmontigo
Background

- We both don't live in the same city

- He comes to my city 1-2 times a month for work

- He used to text me everyday and his replies were almost always immediate


So I find it puzzling that he seemed very interested in the first month over text and kept emphasising how I was interesting, funny, sarcastic, independent and someone whom he feels he had chemistry with. He claimed what we had going was different and special. And what i noticed is that whenever he drinks, he tends to make a lot of confessions. In one occasion he randomly called cos he was drunk and after hanging up the phone he told me he loved hearing my voice and that it makes him smile. In another occasion he said that I should meet his best friend (but it didn't happen at the last minute due to unforeseen circumstances).


Of all the dates we'v been on (5-6), he has never made a move on me. Me having gone on many dates with men, it is normal for a guy to make an advancement at some point but this gemini guy was not. A little bit frustrating if you'd ask. Passive you think? He has mentioned before he naturally just doesn't have much initiative. Not sure if that's an excuse but my ex bf was actually at that level of passiveness where he wouldn't initiative anything so I would like to give him the benefit of doubt. I don't think he's shy because he's an extrovert and is pretty chatty and funny.


The most recent time we met was in his city (usually he would be at mine) and towards the end of the night, I thought I should ' be the man' and invited him over to my room which he willingly did. Well not much needed to elaborate from there. He was very kissy (Not sure if that even means anything because most guys who are just in it for the sex kiss minimally based on my experience).


Then two days later on my flight back we were exchanging good byes over text n that we would see each other again next month when he comes to my city. I didn't hear from him for a whole week after. I'm not the pushy sort so I didn't text him either. A week to me was a long given how we used to text everyday.


Just as I was going to conclude that I wasn't going to hear from him again because maybe he had already slept with me, he texted me asking me how I was and where I had disappeared to. I told him I thought he was the one who disappeared. Basically we both thought that the whole 'goodbye see u soon' was a polite way of asking each other f**k off and end things. He asked if I really think he's such a douche...


Halfway through he started to get tipsy (he admitted it) and said that I was screwing with his mind during the week I didn't text and that he didn't like it. He called me terrible. On my end I thought he was the one screwing with mine. He later concluded that we both just had communication issues and that someone needed to man up and ask what happened, which he did. He bid me good night and said he would text the next day.


Next day he texted but took hours to reply despite being online from time to time. I asked if his drunk words the night before was a sober man's thoughts... he said of cos and that I needed to be more optimistic.


Is this a typical gemini behaviour? Why is he being so complicated? He's usually more expressive about his feelings when he drinks but when he's sober it's as if he has this wall. I've had my share of experience with players and they are easy to identify. With this guy it's honestly very confusing because there are a lot of things he says that seem really genuine, more so when he drinks... but I'm not sure if he is just a master of deceit?


Hard to understand his behaviour it's like he's interested but he is not at the same time. If he isn't then why does he still reply my messages (despite taking hours these days). He will never leave any messages un-replied. He'll still ask me what I'm up to and stuff. Beats me.
That's definitely normal for us. I totally understand him. We don't express our true feelings to anyone and if we do the alcohol helps take the edge off. The time we aren't reaching out to u we're waiting on your move. When we ain't initiating any advancements we're giving u a chance but when u get us alone behind closed doors the other twin comes out lol.
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Haha nice wordplay there (the other twin comes out). You guys are a handful...How do you guys get rid of girls you have lost interest?

Posted by hannahmontigo
Posted by Moonbutter
Ooh hehasthat Cancer Mars... he's gonna need you to pursue gently.
Pursue gently so give him all the space he needs? Are cancer in mars generally very passive? Cos it feels like it and he has admitted to being so... but not sure if it's just an excuse.
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Yes... Mars is the energy exerted sooo think of how Cancer is and apply ?
I have pretty much all the same placements as this guy. Pretty much if i know i want something i go after it usually but if i'm unsure or it goes too fast then i completely get freaked out and back off a bit. I want to know the other person feels the same way and for them to make some effort as well.
FYI - I'm sun gemini, moon aqua, merc gemini, venus gemini and Mars Gemini.


Is his bday May 27th 1989?
Posted by Cobyco
Posted by hannahmontigo
Background

- We both don't live in the same city

- He comes to my city 1-2 times a month for work

- He used to text me everyday and his replies were almost always immediate


So I find it puzzling that he seemed very interested in the first month over text and kept emphasising how I was interesting, funny, sarcastic, independent and someone whom he feels he had chemistry with. He claimed what we had going was different and special. And what i noticed is that whenever he drinks, he tends to make a lot of confessions. In one occasion he randomly called cos he was drunk and after hanging up the phone he told me he loved hearing my voice and that it makes him smile. In another occasion he said that I should meet his best friend (but it didn't happen at the last minute due to unforeseen circumstances).


Of all the dates we'v been on (5-6), he has never made a move on me. Me having gone on many dates with men, it is normal for a guy to make an advancement at some point but this gemini guy was not. A little bit frustrating if you'd ask. Passive you think? He has mentioned before he naturally just doesn't have much initiative. Not sure if that's an excuse but my ex bf was actually at that level of passiveness where he wouldn't initiative anything so I would like to give him the benefit of doubt. I don't think he's shy because he's an extrovert and is pretty chatty and funny.


The most recent time we met was in his city (usually he would be at mine) and towards the end of the night, I thought I should ' be the man' and invited him over to my room which he willingly did. Well not much needed to elaborate from there. He was very kissy (Not sure if that even means anything because most guys who are just in it for the sex kiss minimally based on my experience).


Then two days later on my flight back we were exchanging good byes over text n that we would see each other again next month when he comes to my city. I didn't hear from him for a whole week after. I'm not the pushy sort so I didn't text him either. A week to me was a long given how we used to text everyday.


Just as I was going to conclude that I wasn't going to hear from him again because maybe he had already slept with me, he texted me asking me how I was and where I had disappeared to. I told him I thought he was the one who disappeared. Basically we both thought that the whole 'goodbye see u soon' was a polite way of asking each other f**k off and end things. He asked if I really think he's such a douche...


Halfway through he started to get tipsy (he admitted it) and said that I was screwing with his mind during the week I didn't text and that he didn't like it. He called me terrible. On my end I thought he was the one screwing with mine. He later concluded that we both just had communication issues and that someone needed to man up and ask what happened, which he did. He bid me good night and said he would text the next day.


Next day he texted but took hours to reply despite being online from time to time. I asked if his drunk words the night before was a sober man's thoughts... he said of cos and that I needed to be more optimistic.


Is this a typical gemini behaviour? Why is he being so complicated? He's usually more expressive about his feelings when he drinks but when he's sober it's as if he has this wall. I've had my share of experience with players and they are easy to identify. With this guy it's honestly very confusing because there are a lot of things he says that seem really genuine, more so when he drinks... but I'm not sure if he is just a master of deceit?


Hard to understand his behaviour it's like he's interested but he is not at the same time. If he isn't then why does he still reply my messages (despite taking hours these days). He will never leave any messages un-replied. He'll still ask me what I'm up to and stuff. Beats me.
That's definitely normal for us. I totally understand him. We don't express our true feelings to anyone and if we do the alcohol helps take the edge off. The time we aren't reaching out to u we're waiting on your move. When we ain't initiating any advancements we're giving u a chance but when u get us alone behind closed doors the other twin comes out lol.
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100% This.
Posted by MissM
I have pretty much all the same placements as this guy. Pretty much if i know i want something i go after it usually but if i'm unsure or it goes too fast then i completely get freaked out and back off a bit. I want to know the other person feels the same way and for them to make some effort as well.
But i dont get the part we didnt speak for a week then he randomly texts me out of the blue when he was tipsy telling me he thought i disappeared and screwing his mind etc then now he has gone missing again with my latest text unread. Decided to prompt him days back and he DID reply quite quickly (seemed like a sincere response, wasn't brusque or anything) then went missing ALL day again. Is he doing this on purpose, it's so annoying. If he has lost interest then don't text me and tell me I disappeared and that you don't like it blablabla. It's like he's the one screwing w me not the other way round lolol seriously...
Posted by Moonbutter
Posted by hannahmontigo
Posted by Moonbutter
Ooh hehasthat Cancer Mars... he's gonna need you to pursue gently.
Pursue gently so give him all the space he needs? Are cancer in mars generally very passive? Cos it feels like it and he has admitted to being so... but not sure if it's just an excuse.
Yes... Mars is the energy exerted sooo think of how Cancer is and apply ?
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Ahhh ok, well good luck to me then. lol This is so draining
Posted by hannahmontigo
Posted by Moonbutter
Posted by hannahmontigo
Posted by Moonbutter
Ooh hehasthat Cancer Mars... he's gonna need you to pursue gently.
Pursue gently so give him all the space he needs? Are cancer in mars generally very passive? Cos it feels like it and he has admitted to being so... but not sure if it's just an excuse.
Yes... Mars is the energy exerted sooo think of how Cancer is and apply ?
Ahhh ok, well good luck to me then. lol This is so draining
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Yes... I went through similar with Gem and Cancer Venus ... I just had to learn patience and stay focused on what I wanted and just when I was ready to give up .... breakthrough ?
Posted by hannahmontigo
Posted by MissM
I have pretty much all the same placements as this guy. Pretty much if i know i want something i go after it usually but if i'm unsure or it goes too fast then i completely get freaked out and back off a bit. I want to know the other person feels the same way and for them to make some effort as well.
But i dont get the part we didnt speak for a week then he randomly texts me out of the blue when he was tipsy telling me he thought i disappeared and screwing his mind etc then now he has gone missing again with my latest text unread. Decided to prompt him days back and he DID reply quite quickly (seemed like a sincere response, wasn't brusque or anything) then went missing ALL day again. Is he doing this on purpose, it's so annoying. If he has lost interest then don't text me and tell me I disappeared and that you don't like it blablabla. It's like he's the one screwing w me not the other way round lolol seriously...
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I think the week he was waiting to see if you were going to make a move. The taking a while to reply is probably the fact he is unsure about his feelings and doesn't want to come on too strong.

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