Why Lie Gemini
This topic was created in the Gemini forum by Scorpionlady on Tuesday, December 18, 2007 and has 14 replies.
I was introduced to this Gem (male) thru my sons Godmother who is dating his best friend. This Gem has his own business (Auto Repair and Sales)well he found out I don't have a car and he asked me "do you want me to find a car for you" I said sure...don't go over x amount of $ so 2 days later I get a call and he says "I found a car for you" oh yea...what type of car did you find? "Acura Legend" how much? x amount of $ oh ok. "when can you give me a down payment" so I told him the date....he takes me to see the car I like it he says he will take it thru inspection and do all repairs free of charge (which is also on the contract). Well we decided that I would make my next paymen in 2 weeks and have the car paid for by the end of Jan 08.
Well we have been hanging out and stuff and this one peticular day his whole converstation was on me making my next payment..he says "so when you gonna make a another payment" "next week I told you every 2 weeks" and "you will have it paid off when" "we decided by the end of Jan 08" he says oh yea...so I say you don't remember all this? and then I said I know what I have to do I think about this everyday...
So later that day or the next I called my sons Godmother and she says to me...that the Gem told his best friend that I was driving in the car already...so I say What the Hell!!! why did he lie like that and for what reason.....
Not to mention the day that he was taking me to see the car I caught him in another LIE....with his age...I was like so how long have you been in business for yourself? he said 20 years he told me he was 45 when I met him....so when he told me how long he was in business I said so you started when you was in your 20's he says ahhhh let me see...I am 47 know so I opend my business when I was 37...so I was like why did you lie you told me you was 45 I hit him on the arm while he was driving not hard but was like hitting him saying why lie....don't do that....he starts smiling and says to me I did not want to appear to old you you look really young or something so I was like I am 46....don't lie .
Well we have been hanging out and stuff and this one peticular day his whole converstation was on me making my next payment..he says "so when you gonna make a another payment" "next week I told you every 2 weeks" and "you will have it paid off when" "we decided by the end of Jan 08" he says oh yea...so I say you don't remember all this? and then I said I know what I have to do I think about this everyday...
So later that day or the next I called my sons Godmother and she says to me...that the Gem told his best friend that I was driving in the car already...so I say What the Hell!!! why did he lie like that and for what reason.....
Not to mention the day that he was taking me to see the car I caught him in another LIE....with his age...I was like so how long have you been in business for yourself? he said 20 years he told me he was 45 when I met him....so when he told me how long he was in business I said so you started when you was in your 20's he says ahhhh let me see...I am 47 know so I opend my business when I was 37...so I was like why did you lie you told me you was 45 I hit him on the arm while he was driving not hard but was like hitting him saying why lie....don't do that....he starts smiling and says to me I did not want to appear to old you you look really young or something so I was like I am 46....don't lie .
So here's my issue...my son's Godmothers says I should not say anything to him about lying I mean it is not a big outrageious lie but it's a lie...and if he is lying know about menial shit what the hell will he do later...so right know I am very cautious...with him and what he says I don't know if I can believe him I don't know if the things he says is the truth or a lie so I can't even take it at face value... It's only been 3 weeks since I met him....My sons Godmother says he said it to make himself look good....so she tells her friend that i am not driving the car..they go to the shop yesterday and she says to him that the car I told you she was not driving....
So she says to her friend why don't you ask him why he lied? and he has not asked him and she is telling me don't say anything.....she also is a Gemini.
What's up with the LIES?
So she says to her friend why don't you ask him why he lied? and he has not asked him and she is telling me don't say anything.....she also is a Gemini.
What's up with the LIES?
"I would approach it like this - say, "Look, this information got back to me and it made me feel bad."
Ok that sounds much better...I was fighting with myself trying to figure out how to tell him I mean when I looked at him I was boiling inside because all I saw was the lie...a bold faced lie and it did hurt...I mean I was like fuck him deleted his number was done...I was only going to do busness and get my car and be done with it.
I was also informed that gem are good story telling would that be the reasaon the embelish the truth.....
my sons godmother(gemini) wants us to compare the guys and I was like girl please I am 46 years old that is so beneath me....I should not have to compare to find out about this brotha....and she was like "I want to know" hell ask.
As a scropio to know that I am being talked about to a man that I have never seen only know his name by another man that I am going out with really makes me feel uneasy...because if he can talk about me like this he could basiaclly tell him all things....and I won't be able to deal with that.
Ok that sounds much better...I was fighting with myself trying to figure out how to tell him I mean when I looked at him I was boiling inside because all I saw was the lie...a bold faced lie and it did hurt...I mean I was like fuck him deleted his number was done...I was only going to do busness and get my car and be done with it.
I was also informed that gem are good story telling would that be the reasaon the embelish the truth.....
my sons godmother(gemini) wants us to compare the guys and I was like girl please I am 46 years old that is so beneath me....I should not have to compare to find out about this brotha....and she was like "I want to know" hell ask.
As a scropio to know that I am being talked about to a man that I have never seen only know his name by another man that I am going out with really makes me feel uneasy...because if he can talk about me like this he could basiaclly tell him all things....and I won't be able to deal with that.
you seem like a very intelligent lady, and definitely have more experience with people than i do, so don't take what i have to say the wrong way because i don't want to seem like a know-it-all.
also, disclaimer because i know not ALL gems are like this, but some are...
i know how you feel because they do get to talking. and you never know what kind of "innocent lie" they're going to tell that could really anger you if you find out about it because it makes you look really bad or is simply an outright lie. i think that this embellishment of stories/stretching/bending the truth is highly irritating, even though i don't think they mean to do it. and because they don't mean to do it, i don't think that it can ever really change. not that you should try to change a person, but i think that this is a learned habit that becomes a part of who someone is and even telling them it hurts you may not be able to stop it.
not sure what you want with this dude, but if you can't deal with wondering whether he's gonna be saying all kinds of inaccurate stuff about you, i'd say it's best to just do the business and get out like you said.
also, disclaimer because i know not ALL gems are like this, but some are...
i know how you feel because they do get to talking. and you never know what kind of "innocent lie" they're going to tell that could really anger you if you find out about it because it makes you look really bad or is simply an outright lie. i think that this embellishment of stories/stretching/bending the truth is highly irritating, even though i don't think they mean to do it. and because they don't mean to do it, i don't think that it can ever really change. not that you should try to change a person, but i think that this is a learned habit that becomes a part of who someone is and even telling them it hurts you may not be able to stop it.
not sure what you want with this dude, but if you can't deal with wondering whether he's gonna be saying all kinds of inaccurate stuff about you, i'd say it's best to just do the business and get out like you said.
Good point wheelhomies...
My expectations are:
Respect
Honesty
Comminicaton
Trust
I believe he has all the above except the trust....It will probably take me a minute to trust him but I am not going to walk away right know I think I will confront him and see how it goes after that....I know guys talk and so do we girls but I am not going to tell something that I know is not true....
And I think the reason why he kept asking me about the car during that phone converstation was the same day he told that lie and he wanted to see how fast I can pay it off so he his don't get caought.
Then when I say him a few days later...he was so loving and sweet....what the hell....
He is so TWO PEOPLE....and when I first met him and he told me his sign I said two peple and he laughed and said no....LIER
My expectations are:
Respect
Honesty
Comminicaton
Trust
I believe he has all the above except the trust....It will probably take me a minute to trust him but I am not going to walk away right know I think I will confront him and see how it goes after that....I know guys talk and so do we girls but I am not going to tell something that I know is not true....
And I think the reason why he kept asking me about the car during that phone converstation was the same day he told that lie and he wanted to see how fast I can pay it off so he his don't get caought.
Then when I say him a few days later...he was so loving and sweet....what the hell....
He is so TWO PEOPLE....and when I first met him and he told me his sign I said two peple and he laughed and said no....LIER
we nevr lie, i'm not lying
I think the females are totally against liers. But men are different..
If he is lieing now you will never be able to trust him. Get rid of him its not worth the problems you will have in the future.
I dated a gem once in my life he told me he was 26. 7 months later I found out he was 32. Keep in mind that I was 17. Thats F'en sick I broke up with him right then and there. How can you lie to someone about your age. That is very important.
You deserve better hun.. Liers don't derserve shit.
If he is lieing now you will never be able to trust him. Get rid of him its not worth the problems you will have in the future.
I dated a gem once in my life he told me he was 26. 7 months later I found out he was 32. Keep in mind that I was 17. Thats F'en sick I broke up with him right then and there. How can you lie to someone about your age. That is very important.
You deserve better hun.. Liers don't derserve shit.
Well I am not really tripping off the age part....It's the fact that he lied about something so menial (me driving the car)
What did he get out of it? Satisfaction of a sell that is not complete?
Well I can't get rid of him know I have a business deal a contract that I am not getting out of. I will be doing business with him for about a month and a few weeks and then I can DRIVE AWAY if I choose.
I am just trying to understand WHY LIE.....really WHY?
I just want a GEMINI Man to answer that for me.
What did he get out of it? Satisfaction of a sell that is not complete?
Well I can't get rid of him know I have a business deal a contract that I am not getting out of. I will be doing business with him for about a month and a few weeks and then I can DRIVE AWAY if I choose.
I am just trying to understand WHY LIE.....really WHY?
I just want a GEMINI Man to answer that for me.
m&mgem
"Ah SL!!
"you've dragged me in here to post on this subject!! You dint let me procrastinate... i've already tried replying ... TWICE... but you see,, i'm in for the laziesss and not ready to post at all coz this is too much work trying to make ppl see the works of a gem mind."
"Altho i dont guarantee u that it may apply the same to all ages."
hahahahahahah....thanks...but you know I can handle my own right? Just wanted a little insight to help me deal with it...one think I hate is not knowing.
Thank
"Ah SL!!
"you've dragged me in here to post on this subject!! You dint let me procrastinate... i've already tried replying ... TWICE... but you see,, i'm in for the laziesss and not ready to post at all coz this is too much work trying to make ppl see the works of a gem mind."
"Altho i dont guarantee u that it may apply the same to all ages."
hahahahahahah....thanks...but you know I can handle my own right? Just wanted a little insight to help me deal with it...one think I hate is not knowing.
Thank
That that is still fucked up M&M...I understand it better since you put it that way but damn....you people I flighty 
geez....
So what you are saying is don't say anything....I am thinking that the Gem Godmother understands and could be the reason why she does not want me to say anything either.
geez....So what you are saying is don't say anything....I am thinking that the Gem Godmother understands and could be the reason why she does not want me to say anything either.
Very Interesting M&M thank you all.....I will keep that in mind when dealing with him.
Well in the last 2 weeks, things have been going good very good I might say. As far as the lie he told I never mentioned it....I decided that I would listen to what he says and take what I feel to be the truth and leave the rest alone. I have also questioned him when he says things like "Are you telling me the truth?" and he would frown a little and say Yea!....
As for the car...I will have it today....I think it was last week I was at a football party and he was to (at another spot) and he called and we was supposed to meet up after the game but I was riding with my sister...and could not leave until she got ready well he called and I told him I have to wait for my sis to leave and then he said call me back...well I did not call him back at at a reasonable time so he kept calling me...so when I talked to him he was like "what's up" and I said I am still here I can't leave until my sister is ready to go...so he then says to me "are you pulling my leg" and I was like NO....please don't do this to me I can't leave until my sister is ready...so then he said call me....when I got home I called him and told him I was home but he never showed (I am sure he was dissappointed).
So when I went to make another payment on the car...he said "after you make this payment I will give you the car as long as you promise to pay me back" I was like are you serious?he was like yea you just have to pay me the balance....I attribute that move because I was not available to see him that day when I was with my sister.
Then yesterday he called me at about 830am and wanted to come over....to get his needs taken care of well he said he will call me back in an hour and I was not ready to see him I was still in pj's and chillin...so he got upset again and was like "I called you and toldyou I was going to be there in an hour...so I was was like I am sorry I did not think you was really coming over I thought I would see in sometime in the evening which will give me a chance to get myself together....well I did not call him until about 4 that evening...and he was like "thanks for calling me right back" I apoligized again and we talked some more then I asked him was he dissappointed/mad and he just said that he called me early for me to get ready and I still did not do it and that is what got him upset....but I made up for it when he got to my house.
As for the car...I will have it today....I think it was last week I was at a football party and he was to (at another spot) and he called and we was supposed to meet up after the game but I was riding with my sister...and could not leave until she got ready well he called and I told him I have to wait for my sis to leave and then he said call me back...well I did not call him back at at a reasonable time so he kept calling me...so when I talked to him he was like "what's up" and I said I am still here I can't leave until my sister is ready to go...so he then says to me "are you pulling my leg" and I was like NO....please don't do this to me I can't leave until my sister is ready...so then he said call me....when I got home I called him and told him I was home but he never showed (I am sure he was dissappointed).
So when I went to make another payment on the car...he said "after you make this payment I will give you the car as long as you promise to pay me back" I was like are you serious?he was like yea you just have to pay me the balance....I attribute that move because I was not available to see him that day when I was with my sister.
Then yesterday he called me at about 830am and wanted to come over....to get his needs taken care of well he said he will call me back in an hour and I was not ready to see him I was still in pj's and chillin...so he got upset again and was like "I called you and toldyou I was going to be there in an hour...so I was was like I am sorry I did not think you was really coming over I thought I would see in sometime in the evening which will give me a chance to get myself together....well I did not call him until about 4 that evening...and he was like "thanks for calling me right back" I apoligized again and we talked some more then I asked him was he dissappointed/mad and he just said that he called me early for me to get ready and I still did not do it and that is what got him upset....but I made up for it when he got to my house.
I have been to his house a few times...he has started to tell me what his day was like...he tells me how many cars he sold and how the people gets on his nerves he has had a few slow days..and he called me to tell me that he is not selling any cares...and how he needs money for this and the other and I just encourage him that things will get better. When I was seeing him early on...he would see me and lean his head to me to kiss him on his cheeks...know he kisses me on my lips...
Oh he also offered to put the car in his name and put me under his insurance (for 30 days) because my funds were a little tight. But I got the insureance in my names but he is paying for the tags...
He's a keeper.
Oh he also offered to put the car in his name and put me under his insurance (for 30 days) because my funds were a little tight. But I got the insureance in my names but he is paying for the tags...
He's a keeper.
EG
"I guess so! Except there seem to be a lot of apologies flowing back and forth.
Well I apologized because I know I should have been ready and I was not....I was also informed that I need to be ready when he is ready to go anyplace....I don't think it's to much.....
"It's funny - we gems tend to be late (always finding just ONE more thing to do before we go somewhere) and yet we get pissed as hell when someone keeps us waiting."
LMAO...thank EG........he does make me wait even when I am ready I have to wait for him...I am ok with it...I will have a car and then I don't have to wait...right?
So how was you New Year?
"I guess so! Except there seem to be a lot of apologies flowing back and forth.
Well I apologized because I know I should have been ready and I was not....I was also informed that I need to be ready when he is ready to go anyplace....I don't think it's to much.....
"It's funny - we gems tend to be late (always finding just ONE more thing to do before we go somewhere) and yet we get pissed as hell when someone keeps us waiting."
LMAO...thank EG.....
...he does make me wait even when I am ready I have to wait for him...I am ok with it...I will have a car and then I don't have to wait...right?So how was you New Year?
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