He's going through a lot. He holds a lot in and he seems to snap at people more. I notice it now. He snapped at me and it caused me to snap right back! I'm like, don't you ever talk to me like that again and I hung up on him. I've never lost it like that before lol. But if he does it again, I'm going to tell don't do it again and if he continues to do it, then I'm going to end it. End us.
I don't want to do that but I don't know how to tell him that he may need some help.
Posted by IWANTTOWIN idk when im in a losing streak, i dont mind losing all without getting help, but its because i'm a pluto in scorpio,
that generation is getting destroyed and rebuilt on sight, so i have 0 advice actually
It's alright.
I don't think any of us can. A lot of us would struggle with this.
There's a pain I feel that is connected to most of us in our childhood that I believe never gets resolved and it keeps many of us from doing things like this (is my opinion).
Posted by IWANTTOWIN idk when im in a losing streak, i dont mind losing all without getting help, but its because i'm a pluto in scorpio, that generation is getting destroyed and rebuilt on sight, so i have 0 advice actually
It's alright.
I don't think any of us can. A lot of us would struggle with this.
There's a pain I feel that is connected to most of us in our childhood that I believe never gets resolved and it keeps many of us from doing things like this (is my opinion). click to expand
u need to transform ur pain
I agree with transforming my energy!! My pain.
that is the driving force of a lot of my projects being done. I was in court today and no one was behind me, supporting me. No one. That kind of pain.
I don't agree with that character and how he transforms his pain though. I don't see that as the strength to destroy something. Anyone can destroy and cause pain; that's easy. What can we create with this pain though that doesn't do what is expected? What can we achieve? Can we change how society thinks of us instead of playing out the character they assume us to be?
Posted by Iaorst Regardless, directly telling anyone to seek therapy will unlikely go well. The phrase "seek/get therapy" has an insulting connotation to it due to how it's commonly used.
If truly he is your friend, tell him you've noticed these things and ask him how he's doing. If he's not receptive, it wouldn't be advisabke to suggest therapy then. If he is receptive, see how the conversation goes, if later it seems suitable to suggest it, then why not?
Posted by Iaorst Regardless, directly telling anyone to seek therapy will unlikely go well. The phrase "seek/get therapy" has an insulting connotation to it due to how it's commonly used. If truly he is your friend, tell him you've noticed these things and ask him how he's doing. If he's not receptive, it wouldn't be advisabke to suggest therapy then. If he is receptive, see how the conversation goes, if later it seems suitable to suggest it, then why not?
thank you what if he is not receptive?
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To give it some time. If that kind of snappy interaction continues, ask him again at a later date. If he is still unreceptive, well. It would mean for some reason he does not wish to talk about it. At least for that moment.
Would that be a sufficient conclusion for you? to not resolve it?
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Well, I'm not sure if I'd like to be around someone who snaps and can't control his anger maturely. He can still get mad but don't snap and then talk to me like I'm nothing. Don't do that. And I won't have him snapping at anyone who I love either, my wife or my children etc. Because that is some low-quality bs that I can't tolerate anymore. I don't do this to anyone. Why continue to receive it? To talk down to someone or scream and yell.
Posted by xxAjuxx Other Males can answer too. I just feel like us African Americans, we always seem to sweep mental health under the rug like it doesn't exist...
African American/Black women seem to have the same issue. I have tried to encourage family members who refused. Even offered to go myself. They think talking to family/friends is all the therapy they need and dont want others in their "business". The biggest hurdle is the distrust of mental health providers upholding their condentiality and fear of being labeled as "crazy". Oh and of course they fear what others will think. As if others dont notice they need help. 🙄
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lol thank you. RIGHT✨
Everyone can see it.
It's horrible. It's just kept inside or talked about with people who may not give the best advice.
if a good friend is depressed, i would just casually ask him to lunch or something and get him talking. he might not go to a professional therapist (that’s like too much effort/work for most people) but he might come out to lunch and spill his guts if you ask him the right questions and provide a safe atmosphere for him. you can also try asking him to come do an activity with you. something fun or light hearted if he’s in the mood for it. i’ve done this with friends before. asking them to come meet me somewhere so we can just hang out and possibly talk about whatever’s bothering them (a restaurant, cafe, mall, beach, gym, anywhere etc) if they don’t wanna talk, just focus on having fun, keeping things light hearted, making them forget about their issues.
if he says no, just leave him alone. but you could send like the occasional text letting him know you haven’t forgotten about him, maybe a helpful article, a helpful youtube video or two pertaining to his issues, problems etc
Would it be possible to find a black therapist and then recommend them to him? Or you can get a book about anger management and throw it at him 😅
But in seriousness, you can go on psychology today and find one. The thing is, talking to a therapist is not always easy because they will ask about your family history, your "conditions", etc at first. It can be frustrating to someone who thinks there is nothing wrong with them.
I found a piece of paper on the ground the other day that some had listed a whole lot of different mental health services on in the area. They'd written someone's name on the back so it looked like they'd done it for a friend. I thought it was nice because the hardest part is often knowing where to go and who to contact.
Posted by xxAjuxx Other Males can answer too. I just feel like us African Americans, we always seem to sweep mental health under the rug like it doesn't exist...
African American/Black women seem to have the same issue. I have tried to encourage family members who refused. Even offered to go myself. They think talking to family/friends is all the therapy they need and dont want others in their "business". The biggest hurdle is the distrust of mental health providers upholding their condentiality and fear of being labeled as "crazy". Oh and of course they fear what others will think. As if others dont notice they need help. 🙄
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I would say majority of the world is still outdated on the stigma surrounding mental health specially since getting access to it is still not that convenient. I have a friend who has switched so many therapists and she even shelled out for private ones since the ones through her insurance weren’t “quality”. I’m pretty sure I got bad postpartum depression for the first half year where medication might’ve helped but I was just so scared to have it on my medical record because I’ve heard of horror stories of it being used against people in certain, unfortunate situations.
Just straight up tell him. 'dude you need to seek therapy'. As a quiet black man I don't hold back nothing nor bite my tongue for nobody. And being a black man has nothing to do with that. Don't be afraid to tell him. If you lose him as a friend on a count of that then oh well. Move the hell on. You've done your part and done it well.
Posted by Iaorst Regardless, directly telling anyone to seek therapy will unlikely go well. The phrase "seek/get therapy" has an insulting connotation to it due to how it's commonly used. If truly he is your friend, tell him you've noticed these things and ask him how he's doing. If he's not receptive, it wouldn't be advisabke to suggest therapy then. If he is receptive, see how the conversation goes, if later it seems suitable to suggest it, then why not?
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To give it some time. If that kind of snappy interaction continues, ask him again at a later date. If he is still unreceptive, well. It would mean for some reason he does not wish to talk about it. At least for that moment. Would that be a sufficient conclusion for you? to not resolve it? click to expand
Well, I'm not sure if I'd like to be around someone who snaps and can't control his anger maturely. He can still get mad but don't snap and then talk to me like I'm nothing. Don't do that. And I won't have him snapping at anyone who I love either, my wife or my children etc. Because that is some low-quality bs that I can't tolerate anymore. I don't do this to anyone. Why continue to receive it? To talk down to someone or scream and yell.
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It's understandable then that you two would grow apart. You have your terms, terms that he as your friend and for whatever reasons he may have has failed to meet.
Is he aware of this? that this is unfavourable and hurtful to you and potentially your family?
If he isn't, let him know. If he is, then growing apart would really be the natural course.
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He's aware.
Well, he knows how I am.
He's very caring and understanding.
I don't feel that mad with him but we may drift one day. He's a friend I've known since middle school. Many friends in my life are. I understand friends this old seem to drift but still. It's something that is part of life, being an adult here, that is still a challenge for me. (saturn 11thH)
Posted by xxAjuxx Other Males can answer too. I just feel like us African Americans, we always seem to sweep mental health under the rug like it doesn't exist...
African American/Black women seem to have the same issue. I have tried to encourage family members who refused. Even offered to go myself. They think talking to family/friends is all the therapy they need and dont want others in their "business". The biggest hurdle is the distrust of mental health providers upholding their condentiality and fear of being labeled as "crazy". Oh and of course they fear what others will think. As if others dont notice they need help. 🙄
lol thank you. RIGHT
Everyone can see it.
It's horrible. It's just kept inside or talked about with people who may not give the best advice.
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Exactly. Had this exact convo with my sisters. I told them they are taking advice from people who are not qualified to give it. Would you ask your primary care physician for a neurology consult? No. They are both doctors, but a PCP isnt specialized in that area. So if you wouldnt even ask a doctor for advice with something outside of their specialty, then why on earth would you take your issues to a family or friend who is not trained to treat depression or anxiety. They just kicked me off the phone at that point lol.
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It may be linked to self worth trauma early in life. Do you think this may be the case? We do things to ourselves as adults that dont really benefit us or pan out if we are taught early that we don't matter.
Posted by serenidad if a good friend is depressed, i would just casually ask him to lunch or something and get him talking. he might not go to a professional therapist (that’s like too much effort/work for most people) but he might come out to lunch and spill his guts if you ask him the right questions and provide a safe atmosphere for him. you can also try asking him to come do an activity with you. something fun or light hearted if he’s in the mood for it. i’ve done this with friends before. asking them to come meet me somewhere so we can just hang out and possibly talk about whatever’s bothering them (a restaurant, cafe, mall, beach, gym, anywhere etc) if they don’t wanna talk, just focus on having fun, keeping things light hearted, making them forget about their issues.
if he says no, just leave him alone. but you could send like the occasional text letting him know you haven’t forgotten about him, maybe a helpful article, a helpful youtube video or two pertaining to his issues, problems etc
I love this so much thank you✨
this is a good idea.
I think it could work. 🙏 I hope so.
Have you had any male friends that you were concerned with @serenidad recently?
Well , maybe I don't have anything to worry about if I bring this up. Certainly I am valuable enough to not be thrown away for this for suggesting help.. Deny Access, I've never heard of this before until this post.
Posted by RollergirlOrc Would it be possible to find a black therapist and then recommend them to him? Or you can get a book about anger management and throw it at him 😅
But in seriousness, you can go on psychology today and find one. The thing is, talking to a therapist is not always easy because they will ask about your family history, your "conditions", etc at first. It can be frustrating to someone who thinks there is nothing wrong with them.
thank you!
I agree.
He may seek a therapist if they are Black.
Them being black though doesnt need to be the caveat here though.
Us being Black makes it that much more difficult to accept help or even suggest it in a serious manner imo.
Posted by Walk_on_by I found a piece of paper on the ground the other day that some had listed a whole lot of different mental health services on in the area. They'd written someone's name on the back so it looked like they'd done it for a friend. I thought it was nice because the hardest part is often knowing where to go and who to contact.
Evidence of someone using their heart to help another.
They may have used it or may not but to come across something like that helps me believe there is hope, maybe a chance to go down that path with him as well.
Posted by xxAjuxx Other Males can answer too. I just feel like us African Americans, we always seem to sweep mental health under the rug like it doesn't exist...
African American/Black women seem to have the same issue. I have tried to encourage family members who refused. Even offered to go myself. They think talking to family/friends is all the therapy they need and dont want others in their "business". The biggest hurdle is the distrust of mental health providers upholding their condentiality and fear of being labeled as "crazy". Oh and of course they fear what others will think. As if others dont notice they need help. 🙄 click to expand
I would say majority of the world is still outdated on the stigma surrounding mental health specially since getting access to it is still not that convenient. I have a friend who has switched so many therapists and she even shelled out for private ones since the ones through her insurance weren’t “quality”. I’m pretty sure I got bad postpartum depression for the first half year where medication might’ve helped but I was just so scared to have it on my medical record because I’ve heard of horror stories of it being used against people in certain, unfortunate situations.
Posted by Jumpin_Jupiter Just straight up tell him. 'dude you need to seek therapy'. As a quiet black man I don't hold back nothing nor bite my tongue for nobody. And being a black man has nothing to do with that. Don't be afraid to tell him. If you lose him as a friend on a count of that then oh well. Move the hell on. You've done your part and done it well.
You don't think being black has anything to do with us bitting our tongue about mental health. When I say black, I don't mean all Black's. I mean being black, there is a high chance of not having emotional/mental needs met and healed from early trauma and so we don't know how to handle such things as we may not be the best care takers for ourselves. So, we fumble the ball and either don't speak up or we come off as harsh and non understanding to who we wish to assist....to aid.
I have no problem being blunt, Especially now in my life.
It's a must though for me now to think a few steps ahead before I do something like this when it comes to ones mental health.
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' .. u seem u r holding somthing in .. is this true '
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thank you!
This is a good idea. I never...well, I suppose I just assumed that he would just lie or say "I'm fine" but I may go into it this way first before asking about help from a professional.
if he is going through a lot then the mental health issues are just the symptom. He has many problems
that he is not solving. maybe you can frame it differently? in male language: dude you gotta problem solve, either you seek out experts and/or you just eliminate stressful stuff. Cutting out toxic people, finding simple solutions,
etc etc. You could definetly talk about this in the classic male language.
You open up and tell him he has not been himself. Dont pry to hard. Just ask what the fuck? This is last resort because it's confrontational.
Primarily,
Us men like to say serious shit using humour to protect our friends pride while giving them a heads up. We TEASE in a way thats actually funny to them while making them thinking.
Depending on your relationship and what's going on you will eventually see them open up.
Just remember it's jokes not persecution or true ridicule.
Kinda like how something said out of anger means something different then other times 🤔
Posted by serenidad if a good friend is depressed, i would just casually ask him to lunch or something and get him talking. he might not go to a professional therapist (that’s like too much effort/work for most people) but he might come out to lunch and spill his guts if you ask him the right questions and provide a safe atmosphere for him. you can also try asking him to come do an activity with you. something fun or light hearted if he’s in the mood for it. i’ve done this with friends before. asking them to come meet me somewhere so we can just hang out and possibly talk about whatever’s bothering them (a restaurant, cafe, mall, beach, gym, anywhere etc) if they don’t wanna talk, just focus on having fun, keeping things light hearted, making them forget about their issues. if he says no, just leave him alone. but you could send like the occasional text letting him know you haven’t forgotten about him, maybe a helpful article, a helpful youtube video or two pertaining to his issues, problems etc
I love this so much thank you
this is a good idea.
I think it could work. 🙏 I hope so.
Have you had any male friends that you were concerned with @serenidad recently?
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yeah my best friend was going through it a little while ago but he gets over things quickly. (aries moon lol). he’s really easy to cheer up. (^ ^)/
he understands that moping around for long periods accomplishes nothing. it’s okay to be hurt and it’s okay to require some time to heal from that hurt but after a while, it’s like you gotta get up lol
some people take pity parties way too far and mope around for years and years 😅lol don’t waste your energy on those people. i used to waste mine but not anymore.
if he is going through a lot then the mental health issues are just the symptom. He has many problems
that he is not solving. maybe you can frame it differently? in male language: dude you gotta problem solve, either you seek out experts and/or you just eliminate stressful stuff. Cutting out toxic people, finding simple solutions,
etc etc. You could definetly talk about this in the classic male language.
I definitely agree.
especiallyto this > "cutting out toxic people"
people for what ever reason who treat others like trash or snot.
Posted by serenidad if a good friend is depressed, i would just casually ask him to lunch or something and get him talking. he might not go to a professional therapist (that’s like too much effort/work for most people) but he might come out to lunch and spill his guts if you ask him the right questions and provide a safe atmosphere for him. you can also try asking him to come do an activity with you. something fun or light hearted if he’s in the mood for it. i’ve done this with friends before. asking them to come meet me somewhere so we can just hang out and possibly talk about whatever’s bothering them (a restaurant, cafe, mall, beach, gym, anywhere etc) if they don’t wanna talk, just focus on having fun, keeping things light hearted, making them forget about their issues. if he says no, just leave him alone. but you could send like the occasional text letting him know you haven’t forgotten about him, maybe a helpful article, a helpful youtube video or two pertaining to his issues, problems etc
I love this so much thank you this is a good idea. I think it could work. 🙏 I hope so. Have you had any male friends that you were concerned with @serenidad recently?
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yeah my best friend was going through it a little while ago but he gets over things quickly. (aries moon lol). he’s really easy to cheer up. (^ ^)/
he understands that moping around for long periods accomplishes nothing. it’s okay to be hurt and it’s okay to require some time to heal from that hurt but after a while, it’s like you gotta get up lol
some people take pity parties way too far and mope around for years and years 😅lol don’t waste your energy on those people. i used to waste mine but not anymore.
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I agree.
I wonder how that would be, to have an aries moon.
Posted by xxAjuxx Other Males can answer too. I just feel like us African Americans, we always seem to sweep mental health under the rug like it doesn't exist...
Wow.
I always thought you're Japanese..
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noooo. nooooo.
I was born in Misawa Japan. I know a bit of the language but my lovely "father" moved my mother out there in the early 80s
You open up and tell him he has not been himself. Dont pry to hard. Just ask what the fuck? This is last resort because it's confrontational.
Primarily,
Us men like to say serious shit using humour to protect our friends pride while giving them a heads up. We TEASE in a way thats actually funny to them while making them thinking.
Depending on your relationship and what's going on you will eventually see them open up.
Just remember it's jokes not persecution or true ridicule.
Kinda like how something said out of anger means something different then other times 🤔
thank you! oh yeah.
I usually do this, especially to those I'm still learning about.
I'm just tired now of not being blunt though.
I feel I am being a disservice in a way not to be blunt.
Posted by Jumpin_Jupiter Just straight up tell him. 'dude you need to seek therapy'. As a quiet black man I don't hold back nothing nor bite my tongue for nobody. And being a black man has nothing to do with that. Don't be afraid to tell him. If you lose him as a friend on a count of that then oh well. Move the hell on. You've done your part and done it well.
Posted by Jumpin_Jupiter Just straight up tell him. 'dude you need to seek therapy'. As a quiet black man I don't hold back nothing nor bite my tongue for nobody. And being a black man has nothing to do with that. Don't be afraid to tell him. If you lose him as a friend on a count of that then oh well. Move the hell on. You've done your part and done it well.
thank you!
I agree. I will. especially if this is done again
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I don't know man. I feel this should've been done the very first time. I rarely give second chances. I don't know maybe I'm the one that need to seek therapy for being impatient when it comes to dealing with people. But that's on you if you wanna give the second chance thing. One thing for sure you a better black man than me.
Posted by Jumpin_Jupiter Just straight up tell him. 'dude you need to seek therapy'. As a quiet black man I don't hold back nothing nor bite my tongue for nobody. And being a black man has nothing to do with that. Don't be afraid to tell him. If you lose him as a friend on a count of that then oh well. Move the hell on. You've done your part and done it well.
thank you!
I agree. I will. especially if this is done again click to expand
I don't know man. I feel this should've been done the very first time. I rarely give second chances. I don't know maybe I'm the one that need to seek therapy for being impatient when it comes to dealing with people. But that's on you if you wanna give the second chance thing. One thing for sure you a better black man than me.
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no no. no one is better than anyone.
that is ((bullshit)).
Your journey is just as valid as mine. ✋️🫂
I told him not to ever speak to me like that again though before hanging up on him. I'm sure he got the message. It's just that, I love him like a brother,
I would tell him the straight truth. Pisces anger hits differently than any other because it's rare for Pisces to be angry. So when you do tell him finally, it's like, this is the truth that you need to hear. But I understand your dilemma as you don't want to be mean. But.. hm. I dunno. You'll know when to stand
Posted by Jumpin_Jupiter Just straight up tell him. 'dude you need to seek therapy'. As a quiet black man I don't hold back nothing nor bite my tongue for nobody. And being a black man has nothing to do with that. Don't be afraid to tell him. If you lose him as a friend on a count of that then oh well. Move the hell on. You've done your part and done it well.
thank you!
I agree. I will. especially if this is done again click to expand
I don't know man. I feel this should've been done the very first time. I rarely give second chances. I don't know maybe I'm the one that need to seek therapy for being impatient when it comes to dealing with people. But that's on you if you wanna give the second chance thing. One thing for sure you a better black man than me.
no no. no one is better than anyone.
that is ((bullshit)).
Your journey is just as valid as mine. ✋️🫂
I told him not to ever speak to me like that again though before hanging up on him. I'm sure he got the message. It's just that, I love him like a brother,
it would take a bit more for me to cut him loose.
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Since you put it in that perspective thats true. No one is better than anyone.
Posted by RollergirlOrc I would tell him the straight truth. Pisces anger hits differently than any other because it's rare for Pisces to be angry. So when you do tell him finally, it's like, this is the truth that you need to hear. But I understand your dilemma as you don't want to be mean. But.. hm. I dunno. You'll know when to stand
Posted by serenidad if a good friend is depressed, i would just casually ask him to lunch or something and get him talking. he might not go to a professional therapist (that’s like too much effort/work for most people) but he might come out to lunch and spill his guts if you ask him the right questions and provide a safe atmosphere for him. you can also try asking him to come do an activity with you. something fun or light hearted if he’s in the mood for it. i’ve done this with friends before. asking them to come meet me somewhere so we can just hang out and possibly talk about whatever’s bothering them (a restaurant, cafe, mall, beach, gym, anywhere etc) if they don’t wanna talk, just focus on having fun, keeping things light hearted, making them forget about their issues. if he says no, just leave him alone. but you could send like the occasional text letting him know you haven’t forgotten about him, maybe a helpful article, a helpful youtube video or two pertaining to his issues, problems etc
I love this so much thank you this is a good idea. I think it could work. 🙏 I hope so. Have you had any male friends that you were concerned with @serenidad recently?
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yeah my best friend was going through it a little while ago but he gets over things quickly. (aries moon lol). he’s really easy to cheer up. (^ ^)/
he understands that moping around for long periods accomplishes nothing. it’s okay to be hurt and it’s okay to require some time to heal from that hurt but after a while, it’s like you gotta get up lol
some people take pity parties way too far and mope around for years and years 😅lol don’t waste your energy on those people. i used to waste mine but not anymore.
😊
I agree.
I wonder how that would be, to have an aries moon.
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they’re tough as nails on the surface but low key sensitive/delicate on the inside lol 😅
you know chucky from child’s play?
that’s them when they’re mad 😅 lol
but they can be highly relied upon in emergency situations or when shit goes south (the ones i know).
i dunno about anyone else but if i ever have to come back to this ghetto ass earth for one reason or another, i wanna be an aries moon or maybe a sag moon 😂 lol
my best friend’s both (aries moon in 9th house) lol
Posted by s- if .. see he may have somthing he is holding in ..may say wat see 'is this true' .. help ' .. u seem u r holding somthing in .. is this true ' or is there somthing u wish to say .. i want u to feel heard [do you want that] if ca lls a nam e m ay ask wat makes me name .. hearing wish to understand ..may help be .. see all ..
thank you!
This is a good idea. I never...well, I suppose I just assumed that he would just lie or say "I'm fine" but I may go into it this way first before asking about help from a professional. click to expand
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I start it tomorrow I’m nervous 😅
Has anyone here ever had shoulder surgery? And what was it for? This past week, I learned I have calcified tendonitis in my right shoulder. It hurts very much. I'm hoping it is simple inflammation and nothing torn. I've been reading post OP stories which,
Has anyone got it yet? What is the timeline of your other shots? Have you had any breakthrough infections since them? Have been going out all rogue without your mask since?
I'm planning to get mine in February to test a personal theory. My husband is ver
You can also donate through my fundraiser page:
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I’ve signed up and am going to do my first official 5k this week/end!!! Now, you can do whatever distance you like, at whatever pace you like, because you do it from whe
Which one did you get? Did you experience any side effects? Do you have any stories of being in a covid positive situation after being fully vaccinated? I'm about to get my second dose. I will also forever be wearing a mask in certain public situations. M
Do you or someone you know have first hand experience of what it’s like to get the coronavirus vaccine while undergoing chemo?
I got the first dose of Moderna yesterday, and it has beat the shit out of me.
I am not on chemo, but my dad is and he is exp
I just feel like us African Americans, we always seem to sweep mental health under the rug like it doesn't exist...