A lion and a moo..
This topic was created in the Leo forum by artichoke on Monday, October 15, 2012 and has 21 replies.
Moo to the lions out there, I'm a Taurean running around in circles wondering if this Leo and I have a shot at it. I'd appreciate your take/advice, any insight would be most appreciated 
My chart:
Zodiac in degrees 0.00
Sun Taurus 7.30
Moon Cancer 5.54
Mercury Taurus 24.25
Venus Pisces 22.55
Mars Libra 1.36 R
Jupiter Scorpio 5.11 R
Saturn Libra 17.30 R
Uranus Sagittarius 3.39 R
Neptune Sagittarius 26.49 R
Pluto Libra 25.13 R
Lilith Sagittarius 23.59
Asc nodeCancer 16.04
His Chart:
Zodiac in degrees 0.00
Sun Leo 1.11
Moon Aries 28.02
Mercury Cancer 13.55
Venus Leo 29.30
Mars Cancer 3.55
Jupiter Libra 4.56
Saturn Libra 4.56
Uranus Scorpio 26.06 R
Neptune Sagittarius 22.31 R
Pluto Libra 21.42
Lilith Scorpio 23.01
Asc node Leo 1.43
Muchas Gracias!
My chart:
Zodiac in degrees 0.00
Sun Taurus 7.30
Moon Cancer 5.54
Mercury Taurus 24.25
Venus Pisces 22.55
Mars Libra 1.36 R
Jupiter Scorpio 5.11 R
Saturn Libra 17.30 R
Uranus Sagittarius 3.39 R
Neptune Sagittarius 26.49 R
Pluto Libra 25.13 R
Lilith Sagittarius 23.59
Asc nodeCancer 16.04
His Chart:
Zodiac in degrees 0.00
Sun Leo 1.11
Moon Aries 28.02
Mercury Cancer 13.55
Venus Leo 29.30
Mars Cancer 3.55
Jupiter Libra 4.56
Saturn Libra 4.56
Uranus Scorpio 26.06 R
Neptune Sagittarius 22.31 R
Pluto Libra 21.42
Lilith Scorpio 23.01
Asc node Leo 1.43
Muchas Gracias!
Your suns/moons and venus aren't in the best positions, I'm not the best at reading charts, Jynja and Seraph will hopefully give you more insight into the delicious details.
Your suns are square but both being very loyal and faithful making the two of you prepared to work at your relationship which is a huge bonus, neither of you are for giving up and will give it your best shot and then some. I like the leo/taurus dynamic myself
Your moons are very different - fire and water. As cancer mooners (I'm one) we require comfort and peace, family ties and traditions and security, aries moons are very independent and can be confrontational which doesn't suit cancer moons as we are very sensitive, we need to be needed, aries moon doesn't need. Also cancer mooners expect others to sense their needs and wants rather than being direct about them as we are very sensitive to others needs, aries moons are very direct, you would need to learn to tell him what it is you are feeling and needing without worrying that this may hurt his feelings (I have learnt this with my bull, he understands I need to feel and process everything internally but he pushes me then to let it all out). Try not to make your aries mooner feel like you are too dependent on him.
Your venus' are also not in the greatest positions - fire and water again. Your venus pisces will exacerbate some of the traits of your cancer moon - especially the indirectness and evasiveness, his venus leo is very direct, again bumping up that aries moon direct style - he will need to feel special and unique to you with this placement (I'm a venus leo too) so you will have to learn to give him that attention and he will crave.
I have sun leo/venus leo and merc cancer like your Lion and am with a sun taurus/venus aries and merc taurus bull so we are lucky that we have such compatibility but it does still take work, specially with that cancer moon I have. You have to take more that astrological aspects into account though, differences can be worked through if you have open and honest communication (watch your cancer moon/pisces venus here), but life circumstances are more important.
Are you with this lion now? How is your relationship?
Your suns are square but both being very loyal and faithful making the two of you prepared to work at your relationship which is a huge bonus, neither of you are for giving up and will give it your best shot and then some. I like the leo/taurus dynamic myself
Your moons are very different - fire and water. As cancer mooners (I'm one) we require comfort and peace, family ties and traditions and security, aries moons are very independent and can be confrontational which doesn't suit cancer moons as we are very sensitive, we need to be needed, aries moon doesn't need. Also cancer mooners expect others to sense their needs and wants rather than being direct about them as we are very sensitive to others needs, aries moons are very direct, you would need to learn to tell him what it is you are feeling and needing without worrying that this may hurt his feelings (I have learnt this with my bull, he understands I need to feel and process everything internally but he pushes me then to let it all out). Try not to make your aries mooner feel like you are too dependent on him.
Your venus' are also not in the greatest positions - fire and water again. Your venus pisces will exacerbate some of the traits of your cancer moon - especially the indirectness and evasiveness, his venus leo is very direct, again bumping up that aries moon direct style - he will need to feel special and unique to you with this placement (I'm a venus leo too) so you will have to learn to give him that attention and he will crave.
I have sun leo/venus leo and merc cancer like your Lion and am with a sun taurus/venus aries and merc taurus bull so we are lucky that we have such compatibility but it does still take work, specially with that cancer moon I have. You have to take more that astrological aspects into account though, differences can be worked through if you have open and honest communication (watch your cancer moon/pisces venus here), but life circumstances are more important.
Are you with this lion now? How is your relationship?
oh btw, your mars/venus signs are very good together, pisces and cancer.
Of course you have a shot. Astrology is such a small part.
I don't think I have every met a Fire/Fire combo. I would imagine he is very aggressive.
A Leo/Aries is going to be very hard to keep. I have no doubt you could win his heart for the short term but for a long term commitment, you would have to really work at it. It would be like a full time job.
As Celtic said it is Earth and Water verses Fire/Fire. Try not to drown him with that Cancer Moon. I would keep the emotional stuff hidden for a little while.
The one aspect that I think will help you is his Mars in Cancer. He is not going to fight with you. He is going to walk away from you. So hopefully not a lot of tension,
Oh and he will most definitely sleep with you. If you want this to turn into something other than a fling, I would hold off on "that" for as long as you can.
I don't think I have every met a Fire/Fire combo. I would imagine he is very aggressive.
A Leo/Aries is going to be very hard to keep. I have no doubt you could win his heart for the short term but for a long term commitment, you would have to really work at it. It would be like a full time job.
As Celtic said it is Earth and Water verses Fire/Fire. Try not to drown him with that Cancer Moon. I would keep the emotional stuff hidden for a little while.
The one aspect that I think will help you is his Mars in Cancer. He is not going to fight with you. He is going to walk away from you. So hopefully not a lot of tension,
Oh and he will most definitely sleep with you. If you want this to turn into something other than a fling, I would hold off on "that" for as long as you can.
Hi everyone, thank you for your replies!
Nala - Thank you for your advice 'It would be like a full time job.' - I can definitely see that! It's so difficult to keep abreast with his moods and what he wants/feels - and I'm supposed to be the emotional one with my cancer moon. 'keep the emotional stuff hidden for a little while.' - too late for that now lol
'He is not going to fight with you. He is going to walk away from you.' Walking away without a reason would frustrate me to no end.
Celticlioness & Jynja - We are not currently in a relationship, although I do have strong feelings for him which I try very hard to curb as his feelings towards me are not very clear. A little complicated given that we work together and we get on very well as friends. A few months ago things, we both overstepped the friendship line and things happened. I was open to it going somewhere as I thought he did too but then he acted very strange so it was awkward for a while. There's always a lot of push and pull from both of us but as he is very naturally flirtatious and I try not to read into his actions too much as of late, he blows hot and cold often. I find that if I don't react to it, he becomes more attentive towards me. If one day I go back to how I usually am and show that I care about him, he backs off and becomes aloof. I think we're both equally moody so this cycle is very tiring.
I give him attention - he is cold - I ignore him - he is more caring - I care back - he acts like I don't matter - I get annoyed - he becomes caring again - I reciprocate and say let's grab a meal - he says yes and cancels on me last minute - I ignore him for being a prat - he asks me out for dinner - we go out, have a nice time - next day he acts like I don't exist - I get annoyed and do the same - suddenly he'll do something nice and unexpected etc etc. It happens far too often.
When we have a good time hanging out, we really laugh a lot and enjoy each other's company. But the not going here nor there is exhausting. I feel like there's no consistency in his behaviour and he only like it when I'm a mean aloof moody cow. LOL
I'm not sure about the significance of our suns being square but I'm thinking that isn't a good thing? As a person, I value loyalty and fidelity so I think you are definitely right in saying that I'm not the kind of person who will give up easily if I have made up my mind about something or someone. I think that's the stubborn trait in me and in him as w
Nala - Thank you for your advice
'It would be like a full time job.' - I can definitely see that! It's so difficult to keep abreast with his moods and what he wants/feels - and I'm supposed to be the emotional one with my cancer moon. 'keep the emotional stuff hidden for a little while.' - too late for that now lol 'He is not going to fight with you. He is going to walk away from you.' Walking away without a reason would frustrate me to no end.
Celticlioness & Jynja - We are not currently in a relationship, although I do have strong feelings for him which I try very hard to curb as his feelings towards me are not very clear. A little complicated given that we work together and we get on very well as friends. A few months ago things, we both overstepped the friendship line and things happened. I was open to it going somewhere as I thought he did too but then he acted very strange so it was awkward for a while. There's always a lot of push and pull from both of us but as he is very naturally flirtatious and I try not to read into his actions too much as of late, he blows hot and cold often. I find that if I don't react to it, he becomes more attentive towards me. If one day I go back to how I usually am and show that I care about him, he backs off and becomes aloof. I think we're both equally moody so this cycle is very tiring.
I give him attention - he is cold - I ignore him - he is more caring - I care back - he acts like I don't matter - I get annoyed - he becomes caring again - I reciprocate and say let's grab a meal - he says yes and cancels on me last minute - I ignore him for being a prat - he asks me out for dinner - we go out, have a nice time - next day he acts like I don't exist - I get annoyed and do the same - suddenly he'll do something nice and unexpected etc etc. It happens far too often.
When we have a good time hanging out, we really laugh a lot and enjoy each other's company. But the not going here nor there is exhausting. I feel like there's no consistency in his behaviour and he only like it when I'm a mean aloof moody cow. LOL
I'm not sure about the significance of our suns being square but I'm thinking that isn't a good thing? As a person, I value loyalty and fidelity so I think you are definitely right in saying that I'm not the kind of person who will give up easily if I have made up my mind about something or someone. I think that's the stubborn trait in me and in him as w
^^You're an ego boost.
I heard that if a Leo likes you, he won't give up the chase and will make it known. I guess the inconsistency makes it hard for me to see if there's really any interest to pursue anything romantically. I also get strange mix signals from him about whether he cares enough to take it forward or if he's just not happy that I'm not putting him at the center of attention.
Often, when I'm heading out with a few friends/colleagues after work, he'll pass comments (i feel to get a reaction out of me) If I'm dressed nicely and get compliments from other people, he'll make snide remarks or he'll go out of his way to joke about how I finally look like a woman (!?), or I'm dressing up just to try and hook up with other guys (HUH?!), or if I've changed my perfume and then I'll ask why and he'll say No comment (!?). I don't know why he gets particularly mean whenever I'm more dressed up or whenever I'm heading out. Boggles the mind lol
Often, when I'm heading out with a few friends/colleagues after work, he'll pass comments (i feel to get a reaction out of me) If I'm dressed nicely and get compliments from other people, he'll make snide remarks or he'll go out of his way to joke about how I finally look like a woman (!?), or I'm dressing up just to try and hook up with other guys (HUH?!), or if I've changed my perfume and then I'll ask why and he'll say No comment (!?). I don't know why he gets particularly mean whenever I'm more dressed up or whenever I'm heading out. Boggles the mind lol
incandescentcancer - Mmm that figures! I better nip it in the bud then - my cancer moon wouldn't be able to take it. LOL
Posted by JynjaPosted by incandescentcancer
^^You're an ego boost.
Not really. It's his lilithclick to expand
It's not so much the astrology. I have just seen this game before, invariably it's about some subconscious need for approval.
Hi Jynja - sorry I'm not familiar with how to read a natal chart, would you be able to elaborate a little on what is a lilith/square that you mentioned? Thank you
In your experience/understanding of the charts, do you think we would fundamentally be a good fit? I'm a novice at astrology so I don't know how to make much sense of it, the only thing I understand is being a cancer moon, I'm very sensitive and generally am sensitive to my surroundings and other's moods. Thanks in advance for any insight/advice you might have.
sweetheart, take the astrology out of it - any man who treats you like this, hot/cold - push/pull, is not worth your time, respect yourself and don't put up with it, strike him off your list, he is not available to you emotionally but doesn't want others to have you - let him off to grow the fuck up and you go have fun while he's trying to do that, if and when he does, he can attempt to pursue you like a proper man then, and you can decide if you still want him then.
^^AMEN!
Posted by celticlioness
sweetheart, take the astrology out of it - any man who treats you like this, hot/cold - push/pull, is not worth your time, respect yourself and don't put up with it, strike him off your list, he is not available to you emotionally but doesn't want others to have you - let him off to grow the fuck up and you go have fun while he's trying to do that, if and when he does, he can attempt to pursue you like a proper man then, and you can decide if you still want him then.
+1 billion. Whether man or woman, personal respect is very crucial in relationships. I am amazed at the number of unbalanced relationships I come across...
that is awesome jynj!!
Hehe did I manage to treetrunk it up lol 
I'll hide them all, if you need any details from me please let me know
I'll hide them all, if you need any details from me please let me know Yes, we met at work, he was the first person I met when I came in for the interview. I smiled at him out of courtesy and he looked at me like I was cyclops or something lol Before anything happened, we used to make fun of each other a lot, just for banter, I think the more feelings I develop for him, the more sensitive I've become, so at the moment, aside from all the pushing and pulling, I feel like we can't banter the way we used to, like walking on eggshells of confusion. LOL (oh melodrama - welcome).
Sometimes I'm not sure what he's really thinking.
He made the move, then he backs away and if I'm forward about it, he withdraws again.
I guess being in the same work environment doesn't help.
There was something he said to me that made me feel as though he really wasn't interested.
We were out at dinner one night, he leant forward and suddenly he just turned away and said we can't because we're friends.
Not sure if that's just gameplaying, or if that's how he really feels or if its just an excuse of letting someone down because he really just isn't interested in me like that.
He made the move, then he backs away and if I'm forward about it, he withdraws again.
I guess being in the same work environment doesn't help.
There was something he said to me that made me feel as though he really wasn't interested.
We were out at dinner one night, he leant forward and suddenly he just turned away and said we can't because we're friends.
Not sure if that's just gameplaying, or if that's how he really feels or if its just an excuse of letting someone down because he really just isn't interested in me like that.
Oh Jynja, this leo is a tough nut to crack. lol
And me being me, I always feel like I'm smothering him with all my sensitive cancer moon.
I have to make a concerted effort to stop myself from caring so much otherwise I feel like such a nag.lol
And me being me, I always feel like I'm smothering him with all my sensitive cancer moon.
I have to make a concerted effort to stop myself from caring so much otherwise I feel like such a nag.lol
LOL yes. shut up cancer moon. stop niggling at me!!
The odd thing with him is that he doesn't seem to show much of a reaction with game playing. Or maybe I'm terrible at games. in fact I know I am. More often than not, it gets *me* confused and hurt because the other person doesn't respond the way I anticipate.
A few weeks ago, a bunch of us went out, I was annoyed at him for harping on about this girl, they're not together. I ended up not paying much attention to him because I was being a moody cow. Some of our friends were egging me on to talk to one attractive guy sitting at the opposite table. He of course joined in and cheered me on as well. grrrrr.
The odd thing with him is that he doesn't seem to show much of a reaction with game playing. Or maybe I'm terrible at games. in fact I know I am. More often than not, it gets *me* confused and hurt because the other person doesn't respond the way I anticipate.
A few weeks ago, a bunch of us went out, I was annoyed at him for harping on about this girl, they're not together. I ended up not paying much attention to him because I was being a moody cow. Some of our friends were egging me on to talk to one attractive guy sitting at the opposite table. He of course joined in and cheered me on as well. grrrrr.
Have a good sleep Jynja thank you again for all your help! *hugs*
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