Help! Leo Guy broke up with me via text!Why DRAMA?

Guys I am completely in shock and please tell me if this is typical for Leos. I have been seeing him for about a month....

This topic was created in the Leo forum by Babykaykesiam on Friday, October 9, 2009 and has 120 replies.
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Posted by sweat.lioness
ah you fall in one of the signs that oddly enough fallhard sfor leo. If you are a pisces u should deeefffinately give him time. Leos tend to find pisces too emotional/sentimental. Leos are determined, sometimes pisces sensitivity might sseem to bother them a bit. Leos fall hard for people that are not very sensitive and have challenging personalities that drive thwm crazy.Like cappy, or aries, scorpio or libra. Leo needs someone not sensitive bc they say a lot of dumb crap they dont intend to hurt pisces or someone like cancer with and they need someone that will understand they dont mean some of the things they say. They especially dont mean to hurt anyone. They need someone to drive them crazy with challenge bc they usually get what they wanr in life with no problem and need something that keeps their interest/them from being bored. Sometimes a more mature Leo will realize that its better for them to share a relationship w someone who is so emotionally open and easy going. Pisces are pretty easy to get along with which we like at first, but then when they start talking about love or being together in an imposing manner we get frustrated and pd off. If you give him time he will contact u. Pisces are usually nice people so no matter how bothered you may get its easy to get back in touch w them and forget what happened.


Thank you so much for helping understand the beautiful Leo mind.
It is actually my first Leo, and I have never fallen so hard for anyone like this.
I never showed him how much I liked him, eg I ahave cancelled a date on him once and usually never spontaneously agreed to dates.. I always told him I needed advance notice. So I never showed him a sappy side... only emotions I showed was when he misunderstod the truth about what really happened and I ended up crying on his messages and texting detailed explanantions of the truth. Ugh I regret that.
I agree always that a TIME OUT always does everyone good.
Only problem is that 2 weeks LATER he specifically goes to the triouble of finding my FB account and "BLOCKING" me even though we weren't even friends on there.
THAT IS BIZARRE. So how is time making him feel better?
Doesnt that say he is vengeful and unforgiving which is rare for Leos?
I wonder what has happened 2 weeks later when there hasn't been a PEEP out of me.
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^^^ this is sage advice. ^^^
It may take months for this guy to come back around but if you are contacting him repeatedly right now (or at all) he won't come back at all.
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Posted by Ike 2.0
I mean forget about him for the time being , keep him off your mind and do your thing before you start communicating with him . Give some space .


I will try, but Ike do u still feel there is hope even after him blocking me 2 weeks later? Doesnt that show he reignited his anger with no provocation? Can u explain that when he hasnt heard a peep out of me?
Thanks.
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Posted by little_sparrow
^^^ this is sage advice. ^^^
It may take months for this guy to come back around but if you are contacting him repeatedly right now (or at all) he won't come back at all.


Hi Little Sparrow/Angel
please what I wrote below... as you see I have not contacted him at all, and him blocking me on another site 2 weeks later seems strange.
I know u had told me to drop him a line one to 2 weeks after the event saying I am sorry things happened and that i dropped the girls friendship (which i did).
But now you feel I should not do that right?
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you are out of control and need to get a grip!
you come across as a crazy stalker...he knows it and we know it and hence he ditched your ass!
a) you are obsessed with myspace. get over it. the man had a point.
b) you were NOT friended for mutual suggestions...that is so bullshit it is funny. you were friending girls to try and get info on what this guywas doing.
c) you have severe self esteem issues. get those in line before dating ANYONE.
this man is not coming back. he is not a good person to date. it was all stupid games. get a damn grip!
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Posted by leokitten2
you are out of control and need to get a grip!
you come across as a crazy stalker...he knows it and we know it and hence he ditched your ass!
a) you are obsessed with myspace. get over it. the man had a point.
b) you were NOT friended for mutual suggestions...that is so bullshit it is funny. you were friending girls to try and get info on what this guywas doing.
c) you have severe self esteem issues. get those in line before dating ANYONE.
this man is not coming back. he is not a good person to date. it was all stupid games. get a damn grip!


YOU get a grip...
You have know idea who I am. You don't know how everything went down.
I have never stalked hi nor more obsessed by myspace than he.
HE is the one who is on it all the time.
BTW there IS a thing on MS and FB where they suggest mutual friends to you. And it is INDEED a small world bc sometimes you can have hundreds of mutual friends if you live in the same city.
Whatever.
I have every right to be sad because there was a third party who interfered with my relationship when things were going well.
If I am such a stalker then why did I cancel dates, why was he the one chasing me thru the whole thing???
Ummm I am not over Aqua... so it is impossible for me to fathom stalking Leo.
I feel like SHIIIIT bc something happened that shouldnt have happened to mess up someone;s opinion of me OKAY??
OOh dear I think you have a problem.
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these are all excuses. of course there are mutual friend suggestions. getthis...these people were his friends not yours. it IS creepy what you did. as was your friend and you setting him up.
you need to do some serious self assessment. way too much investment for one month of casual dating.
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Posted by leokitten2
these are all excuses. of course there are mutual friend suggestions. getthis...these people were his friends not yours. it IS creepy what you did. as was your friend and you setting him up.
you need to do some serious self assessment. way too much investment for one month of casual dating.


LK I think you tuly are certifiably insane.
As far as friend suggestions: You obviously dont know how this thung works. the compute suggests peopel to add that may be mutual firends of ANY of your friends. If you have a few thousands of friends, it could be mutual friends of ANY and it would be hard to know whose friends until you add them. Because I network I usually say "yes" to all the computer suggestions IT makes to ME. capiche???
As far as as you accusing ME of setting it up with my friend, you are crazy assuming that one too! I BROKE my friendship with that girlfriend as I believe SHE set me up. Everyone who is sane would realize she wasnt truly my friend. When a friend tells you, "why do you have to get all the hot ones", then you know jealousy is at work.
I was naive, I fell for her manipulation and I paid the price.
So now you are telling me I have no right to be upset.
Would I be that upset if we just broke up over something between him and I??? NO! But things were going well until my friend decided to go flirt with him on her own volition. Why did she have to make contact with him is what I want to know. There must have been an ulterior motive and I DO feel she put him against me after she got his number and they talked.
Who are you to make assessments of something you know NOTHING about.
Too bad you are a LEO. Ruined the taste in my mouth... I hope all Leos arent like you.
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Posted by Babykaykesiam
You have know idea who I am. You don't know how everything went down.
I have never stalked hi nor more obsessed by myspace than he.
HE is the one who is on it all the time.


we will never know everything that went down, however, the point is he believes you set him up and were stalking him. several people here have replied and said the same thing. no likes the delivery of that kind of message, but no one here is persecuting you, they are only trying to relay information to you that may help you open up your mind and see the other side of the coin so to speak.
Posted by Babykaykesiam
I have every right to be sad because there was a third party who interfered with my relationship when things were going well.


you texted him "if you want to be with my friend yu can... then i said as a joke if u like her boobs i get it i would too haha" after the fact. you were not angry with your friend at that time nor mentioned to him that the friendship had suffered or ended over the ???prank??. you did not seem to grasp the seriousness of how he interpreted your friend??s (and by association yours) behaviour. that is the issue here.....his interpretation. he felt it a serious enough breach in trust to delete you and your friend. the whole thing may not seem to be a problem to you but it is to him. there is a grave disconnect and rightly or wrongly, leo is done for now.
Posted by Babykaykesiam
If I am such a stalker then why did I cancel dates, why was he the one chasing me thru the whole thing???
Ummm I am not over Aqua... so it is impossible for me to fathom stalking Leo.
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if you are not over aqua, why all the crying over leo? i don't understand.
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your friend initiated contact with him but he CHOSE TO TAKE IT FURTHER so in all honesty the fault is mutual on ALL of you, you knew this girl was going to test him you could have said NO don???t do that and if you do I will sever ties with you but your insecurities most likely got the best of you so you gave her the go ahead, now you may not have verbally said do it but if you did nothing to DISCOURAGE her then you are equally at fault??_.mutual fault on there parts is he asked her out for coffee, he gave her his number, he made it clear he is single, she gave him her number as well, they both flirted with one another and he TOLD her to call him so again this is all mutual.
Anyway she told me and I texted him "if you want to be with my friend yu can... then i said as a joke if u like her boobs i get it i would too haha"
He called my friend and said "i am deleting you.. i dont want a relationship with anyone ok?"
Leo felt SET UP, leo men have pride, they abhor being made a fool of, they also hate being the butt of someone else??s mind games. You had to let him know in this side about way that you were on to him, he had no choice but to leave due to feeling humiliated. I mean come on there is no way he would have known you KNEW about him and your friend but you had to SAY something about it, that would turn any man off. If you were confident you would have either stepped aside because this guy clearly has no problem dating you and you dating your friends or you would have simply MOVED ON, not because of her but because he??s a womanizing jerk and wasn??t as into you as he led you to believe.
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2 hours later, I find he deleted me from myspace. I texted him "why did you delete me"
He texts "is myspace your life? I heard from other girls on my page you friend requested them, and i dont want the incident to hapen again with a mutual friend"
I said "OMG I add people all the time thru Myspace mutual firnd suggestions!"
He said "At least you are honest, but I have decided we should go our separate ways"
What was this about???
Myspace may not be your life but it sure appeared that way so he had to let it go, he did not want a potential stalker on his hands, he did not want his freedom being imposed upon because he dated you a couple of times, NEVER FRIEND REQUEST OTHER WOMEN ON A MAN??S PAGE, that only makes you look desperate, needy, clingy, intrusive, that makes a man think you are a creepy sneaky stalker that is trying to get information in a round about way through his friends. If you add a person you have to give him respect by asking him is it okay to do so and if you want to know more about him you have to ask him if it??s okay to talk to his friends about him
But have u known Leos to end things like this? Yeah I have, leo men do forgive but hounding him will only feed his ego, just leave him alone for awhile like someone advised and then go back, they don??t live in the past, they live in the NOW, if you give him enough space to forget about it and then reach out to him things will be fine.
Listen BK this guy is a an actor which means he??s not the one woman kind of guy, your friend was absolutely right about this guy. I would not go so far as calling him a pig but he is a jerk, he??s a jerk for misleading you into believing you both had something proper with one another only to turn around and ask to meet your friend for coffee, he??s a womanizer and those are the WORSE kind of men to date unless you don??t mind sharing him.
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He is not gone for good, he will be back but you must look at why you would even want a man like that, a man that will date you, be intimate with you and then proceed with flirting with your friend, willingly giving her his number and asking her out for coffee, you encouraged your girlfriend to do this so why are you losing emotional control over this, I would laugh it off, as for getting rid of your girlfriend, WHY?? She did what you encouraged her to do, you wanted to know if he was a jerk/pig and she proved it to you so now she??s the reason why the relationship fell apart, that is up and down wrong thinking on your part. Let the ass clown go, let him go mind f*ck and play head games with other women, he was never going to be your everything but he would have had no problem having fun trying to get you to drop your panties.
Unless he??s formed an emotional bond he will not be faithful, thank your friend for showing you he was not ready to be YOUR MAN, if you had just kept your mouth closed about it he would still be around so really blame YOU, blame you for not having enough emotional control to deal with this issue.
Yes things can be salvaged but it will never be the same UNLESS he truly wanted a relationship which I highly doubt, if he truly needed and wanted you in his life he would have let it go, leo men don't hold onto things for too long, yes he would still be suspicious but he would not have discarded you so easily.
Ike and GingerScorp and LK gave you some sound advice, take heed and move on, there may be a time he will feel compelled to come back around but right now he's GONE, he has no interest in you at the moment, now the quickest way to win his heart is to BEG, I mean that literally but in the end he will not respect you, he will then proceed to treat you like his foot stool, so gather up some self respect and some dignity and leave it alone for awhile, you want him to respect you, he needs to respect you in order to connect with you, so no begging, no more crying, just let it go for now, it was only a month, you should be able to move on quickly from this if you allow yourself.


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"we will never know everything that went down, however, the point is he believes you set him up and were stalking him. several people here have replied and said the same thing. no likes the delivery of that kind of message, but no one here is persecuting you, they are only trying to relay information to you that may help you open up your mind and see the other side of the coin so to speak."
Not one person even considered the word "stalking"... only LK did. There was not one behavior that anyone could misconstrue as stalking. This was a total warped coincidence of events, bad people, jealousy etc that ended up messing with my life.
Now I am going to have major trust issues with any female that comes into my life.
I was PLAYED...
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Sorry BK but on myspace and facebook when women add other women from a mutual guy friends myspace page that is considered stalking ie snooping on the other person especially if there pages are private, it sucks because realistically that may not have been your intentions at all but on the other hand there is no reason you should be adding women from the guy your dating's myspace/facebook page, that is sneaky and suspicious, I am not taking sides, I'm just pointing out to you something you may have not been aware of. He considered it intrusive b/c not only did he delete you he blocked you as well, I am just saying in the future don't do it unless you get the okay to add his girl friends. Now if you were not dating him, never talked to him on myspace but he was just this random guy you added and you added his friends as well then that's fine but b/c you had already spent time with this guy, clearly formed an emotional attachment with this guy and then you proceed to add women he's probably corresponding with then to most men and women that is considered stalking, I had a guy do it to me and I didn't like it, it felt intrusive it felt sneaky and I wanted nothing to do with him.....So be careful and brush up on your myspace/FB etiquette.
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Basically you allowing/encouraging your friend to go at him, adding his girl friends showed a lack of trust, a lack of confidence on your part and yes that will piss a leo off especially if he felt he did nothing to deserve it and that sends up a red flag that your going to become a problem for him, drama etc.
Give him some space, he may come back your way once he cools down and I would encourage not to even discuss it or bring it up, let him do it and if he doesn't bring it up then move on and never let it happen again.
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Tiki I just saw you posts.
Yes it is a refreshing look at things. At least you are not ATTACKING me. You putting things in perspective. You are letting me see all sides of the issue, the way all parties saw the events.
"There 2 sides to every stoy, and then there is the truth.."
I also agree I didnt have the guts to stand up to my friend who wanted to prove to me he is a pig. I never foresaw this. I never dreamed she would go and flirt with him and make contact.
Here is the deal... did he not have a right to flirt with anyone he wanted given I havent had sex with him and we never had exclusivity after one month of casual dating?
Then why was my friend right to say he was a pig even before these events happened??? I believe she WANTED to sabotage it (she kept saying "oh he s hot, why do yo always get the hot ones"... then would say "oh he treats you like a prostitute" after my dates with him...), and it was "cloaked" under the mirage of her "helping me figure out he is a jerk".
With those comments, it never hit me at the time she could be jealous of me.
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Posted by tiki33
Sorry BK but on myspace and facebook when women add other women from a mutual guy friends myspace page that is considered stalking ie snooping on the other person especially if there pages are private, it sucks because realistically that may not have been your intentions at all but on the other hand there is no reason you should be adding women from the guy your dating's myspace/facebook page, that is sneaky and suspicious, I am not taking sides, I'm just pointing out to you something you may have not been aware of. He considered it intrusive b/c not only did he delete you he blocked you as well, I am just saying in the future don't do it unless you get the okay to add his girl friends. Now if you were not dating him, never talked to him on myspace but he was just this random guy you added and you added his friends as well then that's fine but b/c you had already spent time with this guy, clearly formed an emotional attachment with this guy and then you proceed to add women he's probably corresponding with then to most men and women that is considered stalking, I had a guy do it to me and I didn't like it, it felt intrusive it felt sneaky and I wanted nothing to do with him.....So be careful and brush up on your myspace/FB etiquette.


Ok I see your point. I NEVER thought of it that way, but I do see now how it looks from the other hand.
So now this has been a MAJOR screw up and a MAJOR misunderstanding.
I don't even know how do I get it right again if he is thinking all these things.
So it is too late then if he is already think so badly of me.
THis really does suck for me, and I dont know if I can get over someone thinking so wrongly and poorly of me. I feel like worse CRAP now.
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Posted by tiki33
Basically you allowing/encouraging your friend to go at him, adding his girl friends showed a lack of trust, a lack of confidence on your part and yes that will piss a leo off especially if he felt he did nothing to deserve it and that sends up a red flag that your going to become a problem for him, drama etc.
Give him some space, he may come back your way once he cools down and I would encourage not to even discuss it or bring it up, let him do it and if he doesn't bring it up then move on and never let it happen again.



Thanks Tiki, you have a great way with words, and everything has become VERY clear as for how I came across.
How can a man forgive me if he is thinking all these horrible things about me after knowing me one month only? There was no bond forged yet.. it was too early for something like this to happen no?
What on earth would make this man consider communication with me now after being so tuff as to "block" me. Its like he thinks criminally of me or something.
I feel so embarrassed that I could even be thought of that way.
Every guy I have ever dated has wanted to keep me in his life... even Aqua and I are friends.
This is the worst expereince I have ever had.
Maybe that is why I cannot get over this... I do not want to be thought of like this. I wish I could have had the chance to explain. He never let me get my two cents in....
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Posted by Babykaykesiam
Not one person even considered the word "stalking"... only LK did. There was not one behavior that anyone could misconstrue as stalking. This was a total warped coincidence of events, bad people, jealousy etc that ended up messing with my life.
Now I am going to have major trust issues with any female that comes into my life.
I was PLAYED...



you were not played. you were caught up in something and when it was pointed out, you became defensive instead of taking responsibility for your yourself.
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Tiki I just saw you posts.
Yes it is a refreshing look at things. At least you are not ATTACKING me. You putting things in perspective. You are letting me see all sides of the issue, the way all parties saw the events.



no one attacked you. everyone has a different style of delivery but everyone here had the same message for you.
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Thanks Tiki, you have a great way with words, and everything has become VERY clear as for how I came across.
What on earth would make this man consider communication with me now after being so tuff as to "block" me. Its like he thinks criminally of me or something.
I feel so embarrassed that I could even be thought of that way.
Maybe that is why I cannot get over this... I do not want to be thought of like this. I wish I could have had the chance to explain. He never let me get my two cents in....
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i think he did give you the chance to explain but you didn't see it at the time. it's not healthy for you to be worrying about what he believes now. you did mention not being over your aqua but still friends with him? maybe over that first. most important, be kind to yourself and stop beating yourself up.
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"i think he did give you the chance to explain but you didn't see it at the time."
No he never gave me a chance. Never took one call.
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BK you had a chance to talk to him when he asked you to come over but you DECLINED so he really did give you an opportunity and you chose not to go for your own reasons, see this is the thing I see that maybe you can't see, it seemed you were AVOIDING him now again I know that is not how you wanted it to appear but again your decline most likely made him feel frustrated and then he opted to let it go, it does not mean he thinks ill of you in any way, it's just that men in general don't like to deal with drama and hard situations period when it comes to women, he most likely just isn't feeling you right now due to your behavior, that does not mean he does not like YOU, it just means that your immaturity in how you chose to DEAL with this issue turned him off. As I said leo's tend to forgive and forget, at least the men do not sure about the women but the men usuailly live in the NOW and opt to have fun instead of hold onto negativity. Give it some time to pass, a couple months and then reach out to him if he doesn't come to you which he may just do IF you stop trying to control this situation, just accept he's done for now which is very hard to do but you can do it if you focus on moving on, go out and date a few guys and go have some fun as someone suggested, if you show your having fun, throw up some good pictures of you having fun, maybe even show a picture of you and another guy he will be back, men tend to be territorial and leo men can dish just as much drama as anyone else so stop thinking negative, LAUGH IT OFF, you made a mistake, you got caught up, most of us have been were you are.
He had the right to flirt with your friend but WHY?? Why would he do that if he was so into you? He didn't have enough respect for his friendship with you to not flirt with her, he is showing signs of womanizing, womanizers do not have boundaries or limits on who they mess with and that is not the kind of man you really want in your life UNLESS you do, at the most him flirting and setting up a date with your friend shows he did not take you seriously, now if your okay with it then be okay with it but apparently you were hurt, it's okay to feel disappointed, if you were really truly okay with his decision to go out with coffee with your friend then you would have never mentioned it to him.
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IMO, she said I'm going to PROVE to you he's a clown and you allowed her and encouraged her to do it, you had every chance to say NO don't do that and if you do don't ever speak to me again....I do see signs of envy and jealousy on her part but in the end you basically sabotaged yourself by including her into your personal life, you also encouraged her to go ahead with her mischievous plans, so yes she's part of the blame but you are too.
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"you were not played. you were caught up in something and when it was pointed out, you became defensive instead of taking responsibility for your yourself."
What does that mean? Defensive about what?
I have taken resonsibilty for my weaknesses and for my part in this.
But I feel my girlfriend had ulterior motives...
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"if you show your having fun, throw up some good pictures of you having fun, maybe even show a picture of you and another guy he will be back"
Thanks Tiki.. he blocked me remember. so he himself can't even be reminded about my charm and beauty and men wanting me LOL/// and vice versa
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Also remember leo not all but every one I know is a drama KING, that means when they delete they don't just delete, they block you and act as though you betrayed them, you did the worst thing on earth and you have leprosy only to come full circle and love you again LOL
Leo men tend to be powerful actors, of course this one is an actor so everything he does will be over the top, just give it some time, he will let it go and if he doesn't then so be it, just be glad it was a month and not years of energy and time you put into this guy.
The best advice someone gave is to let it go, the more you hold onto it the more desperate and out of control you will feel, accept you made a mistake, make peace with it and look forward to the opportunity to make amends...we all make mistakes
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If your profile is not private he can still see you, so go have fun, act as though your OKAY, your happy, your fine without him and find the hottest guy you can find and take a nice picture of you 2 together, nothing mushy but just a picture and let your leo fill in the blanks, leo men are hunters, he will hunt for you and watch you from afar and eventually he will say something to you but you have to relax and let it go, stop acting like this guy is better than you, that he's the only guy on the planet, HE'S NOT, he's one of many and trust me if you found him you will find an equally more attractive man.
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sorry don't act okay...be okay, be happy and be fine with it, make up with your girlfriend, she was only doing what you allowed but leave other women OUT of your love life, if you mention your happy pay attention to how she reacts to that, if she doesn't give you love, praise and encouragement then you know she's not for you and if she's not for you then she's against you and that is your que to stop talking about your happiness to her.
It was all a big mistake, everyone is pretty much at fault in some way, it happens on myspace and facebook all the time, it's nothing new under the sun...keep your business to yourself or stop dating these clowns on social networks LOL
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frankly, you can call me insane every minute of the next hour....who cares.
I am not the one living my life trhough myspace drama, stalking me, using my girlfriends as a go between, being SUPER Clingy (hello how many texts can you send askign a man to call you before youaccept you have ZERO self esteem or pride?????) and...oh yeah...single.
yup...you have a corner on that descriptionsmile
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oh and i call it like it is. i do not waste words. you can make backward excuses and manipulate the turth all you want...but you friended the girls to snoop. neither he NOR I will everbelieve differently.
move on. you cannot fix this. just dont do this with the next guy. that is your lesson. get some pride.
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btw...it has been about as many weeks since this break up in terms of time as long as you knew him. the fact that you are still on this and analyzing says you have some serious self esteem issues. you really really need to take a long look at yourself and ask why you find yourself so lacking.
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Posted by tiki33

He had the right to flirt with your friend but WHY?? Why would he do that if he was so into you? He didn't have enough respect for his friendship with you to not flirt with her, he is showing signs of womanizing, womanizers do not have boundaries or limits on who they mess with and that is not the kind of man you really want in your life UNLESS you do, at the most him flirting and setting up a date with your friend shows he did not take you seriously, now if your okay with it then be okay with it but apparently you were hurt, it's okay to feel disappointed, if you were really truly okay with his decision to go out with coffee with your friend then you would have never mentioned it to him.



Well I just mean in the early stages, he is entitled to like many until he makes a decision to be with one person.
I brought it up with him bc I didnt want it to get embarrassing since she was my friend. That is why I made the "tongue in cheek" comment about "go ahead if u want her". He said he was hurt by that. I just wanted him to feel I was "cool" and that I am not mad... at the same time I "know" that an approach was made.
Ok bad judgement.
But what s done is done I guess.
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Yeah but your not cool with it, if you were cool with it you would have NEVER said a word about it, you also told him what to do as though you run his life, go ahead and date my friend is like saying I'm giving you permission, what you did was not cool PERIOD. If you hadn't brought it up to him there would be no embarrassments to speak about. He did the right thing by severing ties, things were getting complicated and it definitely seemed to be some manipulation and games going on or it would have never happened the way it did, I know that was not your real intentions but in the end that is exactly how it looked.
I have to agree that there are some self esteem issues on your part going on or this would have never happened...Just remember to be confident and be secure with the men you date, if you have to get other women involved in your relationship then that definitely points to some self sabotaging behavior on your part.
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"If your profile is not private he can still see you"
Actually one cannot, as I blocked someone once... neither could I even find them on a list or in a rofile search, nor could i even see their profile pic regardless if they were private or not.
So Leo meant business.
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Just to let you know, we all as women deal with self esteem issues when it comes to men, there is not one woman that I can think of that hasn't been were you are, we do stupid self sabotaging behaviors and lose potential relationships, so again it's not like your the only woman that has been in this predictament, choose to learn from it and if your afraid and unsure about the man your dating the last thing you do is involve other women, that is immature and a big turn off.
Let it go, it's done, it's over and there is no way to change it right now, you will have another opportunity but just not right now...in the mean time learn from it, adjust your behavior and try to find other interest you enjoy, your friends, hobbies, dating, family, work...anything besides dwelling on a failed relationship.
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why is it "he is entitled to many until HE makes a decision...." why in the hell would you function in a worldview where it is all the mans decision and he gets to do what he wants wne he wants.....you are just looking for a way to blame your friend, justify and rtionalize the situation and exonerate yourself.
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I guess it's like that on Facebook but not on Myspace, if he wants to get in touch with you he know how
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tiki is right...all womenhave done something based out of low self esteem...take this time to figure out why you are at where you are at.
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Posted by tiki33
Yeah but your not cool with it, if you were cool with it you would have NEVER said a word about it, you also told him what to do as though you run his life, go ahead and date my friend is like saying I'm giving you permission, what you did was not cool PERIOD. If you hadn't brought it up to him there would be no embarrassments to speak about. He did the right thing by severing ties, things were getting complicated and it definitely seemed to be some manipulation and games going on or it would have never happened the way it did, I know that was not your real intentions but in the end that is exactly how it looked.
I have to agree that there are some self esteem issues on your part going on or this would have never happened...Just remember to be confident and be secure with the men you date, if you have to get other women involved in your relationship then that definitely points to some self sabotaging behavior on your part.


Well said. Yes it was bad judgement.
Of course this made me realize this had something to do with self esteem and some lack of self confidence on my art, bc part of me felt "Okay so he wants to be with my friend. She IS hotter, bc she has big boobs, so I will tell him ya I get why u want to be with her, thats ok". Ya That was silly.
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Posted by tiki33
Just to let you know, we all as women deal with self esteem issues when it comes to men, there is not one woman that I can think of that hasn't been were you are, we do stupid self sabotaging behaviors and lose potential relationships, so again it's not like your the only woman that has been in this predictament, choose to learn from it and if your afraid and unsure about the man your dating the last thing you do is involve other women, that is immature and a big turn off.
Let it go, it's done, it's over and there is no way to change it right now, you will have another opportunity but just not right now...in the mean time learn from it, adjust your behavior and try to find other interest you enjoy, your friends, hobbies, dating, family, work...anything besides dwelling on a failed relationship.


Thanks I feel better that I am not alone in this.
That is why I turned to the boards.
I was beating myself up so much, and trying to turn back time which I couldnt.
I came for reality-check but a "nurturing type" of reality check that you provided for me Tiki. And I thank you for that.
I am not that deluded to NOT see my flaws and some of the self confidence issues that manifested into these past events.
Thanks again. The universe will provide abundance to you for your kindness Tiki.
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Thanks to all as well as the kind Leos on the board for their help..
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Leo's are forgiving. It depends sometimes what you have done to us. We don't like being made a fool out of OR manipulated in any way. We hate to be placed on the desperate end of other people. Placing us on the needy, clingy, desperate end of someone else is a FOR SURE way of making us lose interest fast to never return. No matter how much we love or like another person, when we are "rejected" that is it. We don't do to much turning around after those kind of moves and IF he does come back to you, it won't be the same.
You will have to prove that you are not going to try and play him again and he will keep his distance from you for a "long, long time". At least until you get that his love and feelings are not to be toyed with. We don't like being stringed along.
Whoever stated we do love challenging personalities. Very much challenging but not mind games or manipulation that makes us appear desperate. He will forgive you depending on how "serious" he felt he was played. If you want to lose him for good when he does come back, keep playing him, manipulating him and you will lose a him. That is one thing we don't play around with or take to lightly is someone playing with our feelings.
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Posted by leokitten2
frankly, you can call me insane every minute of the next hour....who cares.
I am not the one living my life trhough myspace drama, stalking me, using my girlfriends as a go between, being SUPER Clingy (hello how many texts can you send askign a man to call you before youaccept you have ZERO self esteem or pride?????) and...oh yeah...single.
yup...you have a corner on that descriptionsmile


Check yourself... before you try to tear people apart for your own amusement.
Too late...
Watch yoour Karma.
YOU SAY MOCKINGLY:
"and...oh yeah...single"
One of these days you may find yourself SINGLE unexpectedly...and beyond your control. Then you may remember me.
I don't have such a low self esteem as to justify myself anymore to you.
Waste of time.
You feel you can hide behind a board and abuse people. That is not strength.
Bullies are never strong...
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Thanks Krobe for your insight.
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LATEST:
Do you guys remember my ex girlfriend who tried to sabotage my relationship with Leo and he deleted her? Well guess what she is back on his friends list and he still not talking to me, nor did he respond to a call I made saying "hi hope ur well"/
Wow it is proof she tried to get me out of the way so she could be with him.
I am in shock.
Who knows what she put inside his head that he is fine with being her friend despite her being the perpetrator of all this destruction.
Are Leos that naive?
I am even more devastated as how can I ressolve things now when she is clearly in the picture.
Any advice or has this woman won?
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I am in tears. I fell in love with him, and I have been suffering last few weeks...
She is doing this out of revenge becauuse I stopped talking to her. She is heartless and cruel.
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Is there any stategy, or too late bc she clearly has gotten to him?
OMG my heart is beating so fast. I am in total shock!
I feel so betrayed! She has a mars in scorpio.
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I hate to say it but fuck her, fuck him and move on. This whole situation was hosed when the ho got involved and she knew damn well what she was doing. She wasn't concerned about you as a friend, she saw something she liked saw you had it and she took it with lies and manipulation. She knew your nature because she had been playing the friend role with you long enough to know you. As for dude, well he seems a bit scuzzy after throwing all that fuss and THEN adding the true offending party. Tells me quite a bit about his character. (he has none)I know it is difficult and you were deeply hurt by this situation but in hindsight, this is one of the best things that could of happened for you. You saw what shitty people you had in your midst and this is your opportunity to rid yourself of them and do better. I wish you luck, doll. If you need to talk I'm here.
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Posted by Viva_La_Raine
I hate to say it but fuck her, fuck him and move on. This whole situation was hosed when the ho got involved and she knew damn well what she was doing. She wasn't concerned about you as a friend, she saw something she liked saw you had it and she took it with lies and manipulation. She knew your nature because she had been playing the friend role with you long enough to know you. As for dude, well he seems a bit scuzzy after throwing all that fuss and THEN adding the true offending party. Tells me quite a bit about his character. (he has none)I know it is difficult and you were deeply hurt by this situation but in hindsight, this is one of the best things that could of happened for you. You saw what shitty people you had in your midst and this is your opportunity to rid yourself of them and do better. I wish you luck, doll. If you need to talk I'm here.


Viva u hit the nail on the head.
I feel like such a fool. I cant see thru her nature.
I dont know how scuzzy the guy is if this girl was so clever to make stories up to make it look like I did something wrong or that I had some character flaw. Who knows what she said. She can be very seductive, a true con artist.
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Thank you so much for caring Viva. You are so kind.
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Any time, doll. It just gets under my skin when I see and read stuff like this, it is as if people are just severely lacking in moral fiber and loyalty these days. Ugh...
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