How to get a Leo to stop liking his girlfriend

Posted by ellessque
possible scorp moon if you don't have birth time.
seriously, he's going NOWHERE.
why must you aquas take it upon yourself to deem people expendible?
it's rather selfish.

Posted by daynightsky

Posted by ellessque
possible scorp moon if you don't have birth time.
seriously, he's going NOWHERE.
why must you aquas take it upon yourself to deem people expendible?
it's rather selfish.

what makes you say this?
and I'm seriously not trying to ruin his relationship. They break up all the time and I don't understand why he keeps getting back together with her?

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Posted by R1g0rM0rT1s
fact is, he's with someone else and you should just respect that and leave them to it.
i really don't like it when people say the 'can't help' who they like. it's what a lot of cheats say when they've been caught....i didn't mean it...i couldn't help it. well you CAN damn well help it. you don't develop feelings of 'like' for someone who's in a relationship whatever age you are.
find someone single to like or don't bother.

Posted by ninjafish
Wow... What a totally depressing thread. Smh

Posted by daynightsky

Posted by R1g0rM0rT1s
fact is, he's with someone else and you should just respect that and leave them to it.
i really don't like it when people say the 'can't help' who they like. it's what a lot of cheats say when they've been caught....i didn't mean it...i couldn't help it. well you CAN damn well help it. you don't develop feelings of 'like' for someone who's in a relationship whatever age you are.
find someone single to like or don't bother.

I disagree. I like who I like. I want what I want. Now I realize we cant always get what we want. Eventually I will probably have to come to terms with the fact that I cant have him.. Its not an easy thing to do(at least for me)

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Posted by seraph
You're not some strange creature that washed up on the roadside for thinking this way. It's *normal*. Wanting someone who is "taken" involves the same feelings and desires as wanting someone who is unattached (with an additional "forbidden fruit" element.) It isn't bad. It isn't good. It just *is*. It's a set of feelings, like any other. Walk away, and they might subside. Or they won't. And you'll keep wondering about the "what ifs" while laying in bed at night.
You want him? Go get him. The fact of the matter is, people cannot be "stolen" (unless you grab them, bundle them into the back of a car and drive off.) They *allow themselves* to be taken. They go or stay *willingly*. Strong relationships can withstand such onslaughts easily. If he and your competition are the real deal, then no one's got anything to worry about and you'll probably get your answer loud and clear. How many times is an attractive married woman approached by interested men while she's out with her girlfriends? This sort of thing will happen. But a house built on a strong foundation with sturdy walls can withstand the elements. If what they have together is real and fulfilling, it will withstand the realities of outside influence. Your competition is more or less unknown to you. You owe them nothing. You have no friendship with her and owe her no loyalty. If you do, then you *must* respect that, because the issue becomes a matter of TRUST, which is the glue that holds together the bond of friendship.

Posted by Jynja

Posted by daynightsky

mine:
Zodiac in degrees 0.00 Time unknown
Sun Aquarius 6.43
Moon Virgo 9.08
Mercury Capricorn 12.19
Venus Capricorn 20.32
Mars Libra 5.18
Jupiter Aquarius 1.11
Saturn Aries 3.07
Uranus Aquarius 4.45
Neptune Capricorn 27.49
Pluto Sagittarius 5.08
Lilith Leo 24.10
Asc node Libra 0.17

Notice Venus in Capricorn, Moon in Virgo, Neptune in Capricorn.
Then, note Pluto in Sagittarius 5.08 as opposed to his Pluto in Scorpio
That lilith in Leo...

At 16 going on 17 or thereabouts (I'm too lazy to calculate) her quest with this Leo man is power. By association, she'll get some sort of fame to feed that Lilith that is hungering for recognition. Is he a jock, popular... what?
A roaring thunder is right - it's a feeling more of assuming a powerful role than of love or infatuation. If she's encouraged, she'll likely justify her actions (underhand or mature) to entice this man away from his partner at the least sign of trouble, but soon leave him when his time is exhausted.
I don't mean this in any mean way, but a woman with these placements needs just a tad more maturity before venturing on pursuing an attached man. Chances are it will end bitterly and in enmity. But astrology can be wrong sometimes, so who knows?
Anyway, his Lilith in Taurus could deem her unworthy of him. Sextile that powerful Pluto, he's likely in charge of that Libra Venus like a leech to blood - he won't budge.

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Posted by Jynja
Ah yes! What a terrible mistake. His Lilith is opposition Pluto, which is an even more favorable aspect for his Venus.
Even if he leaves his girlfriend, it is more probable he'll use you for sex and not for love. Also, should you pass all his tests, it's very unlikely he'll find you suitable. Pluto in Scorpio is a very powerful generation seeking deeper meaning and maturity.
Though is Leo sun squares Pluto, it's likely his pride is magnified because of it, and with his Libra Venus, you couldn't hold on to him even with your Mars in Libra. Besides, being in an off and on relationship with his current girlfriend pretty much signifies his Libra Venus is in love.
But, of course, your Aquarius sun is free to try turning his head. I strongly suspect he won't budge.

*Quoting is all messed up.

Posted by Jynja
Ah yes! What a terrible mistake. His Lilith is opposition Pluto, which is an even more favorable aspect for his Venus.
Even if he leaves his girlfriend, it is more probable he'll use you for sex and not for love. Also, should you pass all his tests, it's very unlikely he'll find you suitable. Pluto in Scorpio is a very powerful generation seeking deeper meaning and maturity.
Though is Leo sun squares Pluto, it's likely his pride is magnified because of it, and with his Libra Venus, you couldn't hold on to him even with your Mars in Libra. Besides, being in an off and on relationship with his current girlfriend pretty much signifies his Libra Venus is in love.
But, of course, your Aquarius sun is free to try turning his head. I strongly suspect he won't budge.

*Quoting is all messed up.

Posted by tiki33
If your 10xs prettier, exotic looking or just all around sexy with lots of friends, big personality with a little bit of skank on the side and have a big ego and combine that with his Narcissism he will most certainly drop her for something better, I've witnessed this with my own eyes.

Posted by Jynja
Yes, his chart reveals a very gregarious, exciting person. I'd be surprised if you're the only one who likes him so much. Does he have a position where he is? He seems like a college freshman or sophomore.
His moon trine your sun. And his sun opposites your sun. In synastry, this is really good. Only, Pluto is powerful in Scorpio, and it aspects his sun powerfully. He is very proud, though his moon might make him seem overly jovial and welcoming. Supposing his birth time places his moon in Scorpio, it will be even more aspected and affected, making his Libra Venus even stronger in that he'll have the most critical - bordering on ridiculous - measures by which he'd judge his potential partner (And his sun sextile Venus so I'd wager he's not looking for a friend with benefits either).
Still, you can make a play for him. Astrology can be wrong.
Karma, on the other hand, can be quite crazy. What you give out is what you get back.
Good luck.

Posted by lisabethur8
Karma, on the other hand, can be quite crazy. What you give out is what you get back.
Definitely. 10 fold. treat others how you'd like to be treated or something like that.
if she's really an aqua/or strong aqua energy, she's going to do opposite of what you tell her anyway.

Posted by Jynja
Yeah. I doubt he places any emphasis on looks. Even though his Sun is Leo, it's very likely - from his Lilith in Taurus - that he doesn't dwell on looks.
I wish I could tell you something to help you with how you're feeling, but that's impossible in this situation. However, I'd like you to know your own aspects make you perfect for someone who will pay you every attention without you worrying about the future. It's absolutely okay to have strong feelings for someone else, and even to fantasize about being with them.
But what differentiates us from animals is our control. Playing for someone you know is in a relationship makes that control waver in the future because you know how you got him so you'll always be afraid someone else would do it to you, too. And they usually do.
As a young woman (possibly very beautiful too), you don't want your future to be marred by crazy negative stories about you. Let your stories be positive crazy stories you built with someone who found you and you found him. Even if it's this Leo, let him come find you. Trying not to sell yourself short is a very hard task - but you're beyond your peers (even by your lingua you seem intelligent) already and I believe you have the control it takes to stay friends with him (if he's your friend, that is).
When you get to college, the boys will fall at your feet left, right and center. All yours. Don't let someone have something bad to say about you that will bring drama into your life and ruin your reputation in life.
There's an old african american proverb: All you can take to your grave is your reputation, try to keep it stainless.
If you feel strongly and want to pursue him anyway, I still wish you the best. Whatever comes of it will be a lesson worth learning.

was great advice

Posted by daynightsky

Posted by lisabethur8
Karma, on the other hand, can be quite crazy. What you give out is what you get back.
Definitely. 10 fold. treat others how you'd like to be treated or something like that.
if she's really an aqua/or strong aqua energy, she's going to do opposite of what you tell her anyway.

Dont be too quick to make judgements. I havent done anything regarding this situation that woulf warrant me bad karma, and it wont be hard to keep it that way

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nope, no judgements. Just warnings of the "future" ....
what could be, what can be, what will....
all up to you.
Karma is just there, always watching your every move, how you treat other people, how much you give, or take,
ect.
It's very forgiving and wants you to actually have a good life. (to make good choices)
basically to OVERCOME your passions. And steady them. Like a cool breeze, not too much but just enough/ metaphor.

Posted by lisabethur8
Jynja, that was great advice

Posted by daynightsky

Posted by lisabethur8
Karma, on the other hand, can be quite crazy. What you give out is what you get back.
Definitely. 10 fold. treat others how you'd like to be treated or something like that.
if she's really an aqua/or strong aqua energy, she's going to do opposite of what you tell her anyway.

Dont be too quick to make judgements. I havent done anything regarding this situation that woulf warrant me bad karma, and it wont be hard to keep it that way

nope, no judgements. Just warnings of the "future" ....
what could be, what can be, what will....
all up to you.
Karma is just there, always watching your every move, how you treat other people, how much you give, or take,
ect.
It's very forgiving and wants you to actually have a good life. (to make good choices)
basically to OVERCOME your passions. And steady them. Like a cool breeze, not too much but just enough/ metaphor.

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Posted by seraph

Posted by daynightsky

Btw his girlfriends chart for anyone interested:
Zodiac in degrees 0.00??Time unknownSunVirgo20.35????MoonCapricorn5.17????MercuryLibra13.48????VenusScorpio4.45????MarsCancer17.37????JupiterScorpio11.52????SaturnPisces8.06 R????UranusCapricorn22.31 R????NeptuneCapricorn20.41 R????PlutoScorpio25.44????LilithTaurus17.41????Asc nodeScorpio16.08????

Virgo Sun and Cap Moon. BORING.
Scorp Venus. RAWR.
She's a lady in the streets and a tramp in the sheets.
Arguments with her would be COMPLETE HELL (Mars in Cancer.) Yeesh . . .
In short, she's a bitch. A tough one to leave because she can manipulate the living daylights out of him. Some guys *really* dig that.

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Posted by seraph
OP wants a Leo who is already taken. She'd like to get advice - possibly astrological - on how to best get 'er done. She wants to understand how to woo the Leo (hopefully without playing dirty with the other woman.) So she's including astrological data of all parties involved in order to gauge her chances, among other things.

Posted by daynightsky
I think people are seriously misunderstanding me. Im really not purposely trying to ruin a relationship. I cant help who I like.
^have no idea what his girlfriends chart is though.

Posted by BigGirlPanties
Did ya'll take a minute to consider this might be a very young person writing and it's serious to her?

Posted by ninjafish
R1gor, the situation you described seems very different to me. I suppose the offense I took to this malarkey was encapsulated in the title. To develop feelings for a "taken" individual is something that can't always be helped, and very human, but "how to get him to stop liking his girlfriend" bespeaks of action with malicious intent.

Posted by Jynja

Posted by celticlioness

Posted by BigGirlPanties
Did ya'll take a minute to consider this might be a very young person writing and it's serious to her?

Very good point. Maybe she is very young, that would be a bonus IMO as she could then learn earlier in life not to compete with other women over a man, or fuck over her fellow woman.

Well said, Celtic. This is why I continued to comment on this thread. My experience as the woman who was fucked over was not a good one at all. I felt shame and my pride lay in tatters. Of course, I knew it was through no fault of mine - as Seraph noted, it's a test of the strength of the relationship - but it sure felt like someone ripped my heart out and put it on a spit over hell's raging fires. No joke.
No matter how compatible two people are, they put a lot of work into their relationship to grow it. Even if it's all roses, it takes dedication and loyalty in this time when they are not very valued (with all the FWB, Open relationships, polyamorous relationships going about, no one person is under law to be dedicated to a single partner), it's a real test of sanity to preserve the sanctity of a union such as the one the OP posted.
As astrology has noted, a relationship is an entity on it's own, and most are in a fragile balance. Lusting over and making your infatuations known to a man in this partnership is cruel to all parties. The balance wavers even in the most loving relationships. It triggers a subconscious re-evaluation of the relationship and sore spots may begin to seem like full-blown amputations. The natural nature of man is to respond to these appeals, and though he might stand his ground and refuse the intruder, he is likely to consider his nature without even noticing it.
In the bdsm community I belong, there's a small code of honor by which nearly everyone seems to abide - The price for loyalty is respect.
I'm glad I found the strength to keep replying on this thread though. My pride will not let me admit it as plainly as I will here to my boyfriend, but he really did HEAL me.

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Posted by daynightsky
How many times can I repeat myself? I would prefer not to get between them, ideally their relationship would fall a part on its own. But if it doesnt the most I would be able to do is subtely drop hints on how I felt, maybe eventually telling him. I also have said before that I probably should have named the thread something different
Anyways, there are many different views on this. Some people will go after people in relationships because its not on their conscious. I somewhat believe this. But, I have never had a significant other fall in love with someone else or cheat on me so maybe Im not quite as sympathetic as I should be.

Posted by daynightsky
. But, I have never had a significant other fall in love with someone else or cheat on me so maybe Im not quite as sympathetic as I should be.

Posted by lisabethur8
I can't think of any right now off the bat.
But MANY MANY celebrities do this, of different signs. You cannot pinpoint like that. you read their biography and the woman has taken away the man. Or the man has taken away the woman and all this time they've been friends in the family. I'm sure there's plenty of stories like this all the time. She's just starting young.

Posted by celticlioness

Posted by lisabethur8
I can't think of any right now off the bat.
But MANY MANY celebrities do this, of different signs. You cannot pinpoint like that. you read their biography and the woman has taken away the man. Or the man has taken away the woman and all this time they've been friends in the family. I'm sure there's plenty of stories like this all the time. She's just starting young.

Nobody can be taken.

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