celticlioness
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I think, whether you are aware or not, you cannot be taken if you have no desire to be. When hurt people scream that at the person who carried out the perceived kidnapping it is because they cannot admit to themselves that it was in fact the person they put all of their trust in that laid beautifully garnished pieces of themselves out on silver platters to entice the starving to salve their hunger. I found out, post my marriage breakdown, that 2 men had tried to "take" me from my husband, I was not aware of this at the time and neither did my lack of awareness weaken my loyalty to my husband. I am not available to be Taken.
Thanks for that, Celtic 🙂
I agree with you, it's loyality, no matter what.
In this case with the girl, she claims the guy keeps going back and forth, being unsure yet attached. She sees this as "weakness" on his part. I'm guessing it is weakness for her. Like a Barracuda honing in on a weak spot, cause that's her chance. I know that sounds awful. But gotta be realistic that this may be the case. She tries to "nab" his weak spot hoping that his supposedly "weak" loyalty will sway therefore, dropping his gf FINALLY and then victory for her. Smh.
In any case, it's all about "weakness" and if they see a spot of it, like in the ocean where there is blood, the sharks will come.
People in general will try to pick out weaknesses in people, and if they want someone or something so bad, in a hierarchial game. They do look for it. Kind of like in business as well.
Thanks for that, Celtic 🙂
I agree with you, it's loyality, no matter what.
In this case with the girl, she claims the guy keeps going back and forth, being unsure yet attached. She sees this as "weakness" on his part. I'm guessing it is weakness for her. Like a Barracuda honing in on a weak spot, cause that's her chance. I know that sounds awful. But gotta be realistic that this may be the case. She tries to "nab" his weak spot hoping that his supposedly "weak" loyalty will sway therefore, dropping his gf FINALLY and then victory for her. Smh.
In any case, it's all about "weakness" and if they see a spot of it, like in the ocean where there is blood, the sharks will come.
People in general will try to pick out weaknesses in people, and if they want someone or something so bad, in a hierarchial game. They do look for it. Kind of like in business as well.
This is for the OP:
I had to go look for this one, as hopefully the guy's gf will be able to counter the barracuda:
She maybe a barracuda herself and then there's two of them fighting for the man. The man if he's a "Narcissist" will love it and eat it up. Ah well.
Personally, I like the funny idea of making a topic:
"How to steal Jolie's man, and make Brad lose his beard" or something along those lines."
She maybe a barracuda herself and then there's two of them fighting for the man. The man if he's a "Narcissist" will love it and eat it up. Ah well.
Personally, I like the funny idea of making a topic:
"How to steal Jolie's man, and make Brad lose his beard" or something along those lines."
Posted by celticlionessPosted by daynightsky
. But, I have never had a significant other fall in love with someone else or cheat on me so maybe Im not quite as sympathetic as I should be.
Not an excuse, you don't need to have someone devastate you in order to understand that you shouldn't try to devastate another - you should try to develop empathy towards your fellow being.click to expand
I do have sympathy. All Im saying is that if this happened to me I would probably be a lot more sympathetic than I am. I can never truly understand how it feels until it happens to me.
Posted by daynightskyPosted by celticlionessPosted by daynightsky
. But, I have never had a significant other fall in love with someone else or cheat on me so maybe Im not quite as sympathetic as I should be.
Not an excuse, you don't need to have someone devastate you in order to understand that you shouldn't try to devastate another - you should try to develop empathy towards your fellow being.
I do have sympathy. All Im saying is that if this happened to me I would probably be a lot more sympathetic than I am. I can never truly understand how it feels until it happens to me.click to expand
That's like saying, "If I cross the road to get to the other side, when it's red, I won't know how it feels like to get hit by a car, cause I have to experience it."
Usually being raised right and wrong is simple enough.
Posted by JynjaPosted by daynightskyPosted by celticlionessPosted by daynightsky
. But, I have never had a significant other fall in love with someone else or cheat on me so maybe Im not quite as sympathetic as I should be.
Not an excuse, you don't need to have someone devastate you in order to understand that you shouldn't try to devastate another - you should try to develop empathy towards your fellow being.
I do have sympathy. All Im saying is that if this happened to me I would probably be a lot more sympathetic than I am. I can never truly understand how it feels until it happens to me.
Which is typically Aquarian. Your innate need is to experience something original, and reasoning rarely works to divert your course. My Aqua aunt also "snatched" a Leo from a Sag who went off to school. When she finally divorced him, I think she expected him to cower to her and hand her half his assets. He fought hard till she was left virtually penniless.
Loveless unions always end disastrously. I'm very glad he's happy with an Aries now.click to expand
I'm sorry that happened to your family 😢
No wonder you hate Aquarians. I'd hate them too if they did that in my family.
Posted by Jynja
Actually, I like you, Lisabethur. I'm just afraid to jinx it. 🙂
aww thank you, i like you too. 🙂
now you're making me sniffle in my coffee.
Posted by lisabethur8Posted by daynightskyPosted by celticlionessPosted by daynightsky
. But, I have never had a significant other fall in love with someone else or cheat on me so maybe Im not quite as sympathetic as I should be.
Not an excuse, you don't need to have someone devastate you in order to understand that you shouldn't try to devastate another - you should try to develop empathy towards your fellow being.
I do have sympathy. All Im saying is that if this happened to me I would probably be a lot more sympathetic than I am. I can never truly understand how it feels until it happens to me.
That's like saying, "If I cross the road to get to the other side, when it's red, I won't know how it feels like to get hit by a car, cause I have to experience it."
Usually being raised right and wrong is simple enough.click to expand
Its true though. I can imagine how painful it is, but I wont ever truly understand until I experience it.
Posted by daynightskyPosted by celticlionessPosted by daynightsky
. But, I have never had a significant other fall in love with someone else or cheat on me so maybe Im not quite as sympathetic as I should be.
Not an excuse, you don't need to have someone devastate you in order to understand that you shouldn't try to devastate another - you should try to develop empathy towards your fellow being.
I do have sympathy. All Im saying is that if this happened to me I would probably be a lot more sympathetic than I am. I can never truly understand how it feels until it happens to me.click to expand
I doubt she would welcome your sympathy, its empathy that's missing - look it up.
Posted by ellessque
you know, this thread really irked the shit out of me until celtic showed up.
I understand now.
Thank you for the enlightenment. 🙂
😉
Posted by celticlionessPosted by daynightskyPosted by celticlionessPosted by daynightsky
. But, I have never had a significant other fall in love with someone else or cheat on me so maybe Im not quite as sympathetic as I should be.
Not an excuse, you don't need to have someone devastate you in order to understand that you shouldn't try to devastate another - you should try to develop empathy towards your fellow being.
I do have sympathy. All Im saying is that if this happened to me I would probably be a lot more sympathetic than I am. I can never truly understand how it feels until it happens to me.
I doubt she would welcome your sympathy, its empathy that's missing - look it up.click to expand
I dont want her to welcome my sympathy. I do not particularly care for her. As I sai before, I am unable to emphasize because I dont truly understand.
Lack of empathy:
http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/stop-walking-eggshells/201201/lack-empathy-the-most-telling-narcissistic-trait<BR>
"Narcissists do not consider the pain they inflict on others; nor do they give any credence to others' perceptions," says Dr. Les Carter in the book Enough of You, Let's Talk About Me (p. 9). "They simply do not care about thoughts and feelings that conflict with their own." Do not expect them to listen, validate, understand, or support you.
A woman says:
He would abuse the dog in front of his 11-year-old daughter by repeatedly pushing the shocking collar and making the dogs wail. The daughter would scream and wave her hands and if I hadn't been there to take the control away from my husband I don't know how long he would have kept doing it.
Let's look at what this means on a more moderate basis. Here are examples from partners of narcissists:
He would actually get mad at me if I was sick. I said, "I sat here with you for days when you were depressed and couldn't get out of bed. And now you can't even be a little nice to me when I am sick?"
My partner would hurt my feelings just when things were going well. When I would question him about it, he would make up excuses and tell me I'm wrong for feeling the way I did, and if I didn't like it there was something wrong with me.
I could spend an hour detailing how I felt hurt and she would sit there, cold as ice. When it was her turn to speak, she tore down every word that came out of my mouth until I had to apologize for expressing how I felt. I ignored this red flag and made excuses to myself and others.
http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/stop-walking-eggshells/201201/lack-empathy-the-most-telling-narcissistic-trait<BR>
"Narcissists do not consider the pain they inflict on others; nor do they give any credence to others' perceptions," says Dr. Les Carter in the book Enough of You, Let's Talk About Me (p. 9). "They simply do not care about thoughts and feelings that conflict with their own." Do not expect them to listen, validate, understand, or support you.
A woman says:
He would abuse the dog in front of his 11-year-old daughter by repeatedly pushing the shocking collar and making the dogs wail. The daughter would scream and wave her hands and if I hadn't been there to take the control away from my husband I don't know how long he would have kept doing it.
Let's look at what this means on a more moderate basis. Here are examples from partners of narcissists:
He would actually get mad at me if I was sick. I said, "I sat here with you for days when you were depressed and couldn't get out of bed. And now you can't even be a little nice to me when I am sick?"
My partner would hurt my feelings just when things were going well. When I would question him about it, he would make up excuses and tell me I'm wrong for feeling the way I did, and if I didn't like it there was something wrong with me.
I could spend an hour detailing how I felt hurt and she would sit there, cold as ice. When it was her turn to speak, she tore down every word that came out of my mouth until I had to apologize for expressing how I felt. I ignored this red flag and made excuses to myself and others.
How can you asdume Im a narcissist over the internet? I dont have a lack of empathy in general, i have one in this situation
I dunno but I get a feeling you're a troll 😛
Or just playing around. 😛
Or just playing around. 😛
Not sure why I would be playing around
what a load of baloney about not being able to sympathise with someone because of not having been in the same situation as them.
have you ever been raped? if not, would you sympathise with a victim of rape?
yeah you would cos it's an act that is universally acknowledged as being repulsive.
as is cheating or encouraging someone else to cheat. yeah, the attached person has the ability to say no but that doesn't absolve someone from blame if they have knowingly put that person in a position where they are tempted.
have you ever been raped? if not, would you sympathise with a victim of rape?
yeah you would cos it's an act that is universally acknowledged as being repulsive.
as is cheating or encouraging someone else to cheat. yeah, the attached person has the ability to say no but that doesn't absolve someone from blame if they have knowingly put that person in a position where they are tempted.
Posted by R1g0rM0rT1s
what a load of baloney about not being able to sympathise with someone because of not having been in the same situation as them.
have you ever been raped? if not, would you sympathise with a victim of rape?
yeah you would cos it's an act that is universally acknowledged as being repulsive.
as is cheating or encouraging someone else to cheat. yeah, the attached person has the ability to say no but that doesn't absolve someone from blame if they have knowingly put that person in a position where they are tempted.
+1
That's my Roxi.
You are so Leo like it is hilarious.
Posted by R1g0rM0rT1s
what a load of baloney about not being able to sympathise with someone because of not having been in the same situation as them.
have you ever been raped? if not, would you sympathise with a victim of rape?
yeah you would cos it's an act that is universally acknowledged as being repulsive.
as is cheating or encouraging someone else to cheat. yeah, the attached person has the ability to say no but that doesn't absolve someone from blame if they have knowingly put that person in a position where they are tempted.
I do have sympathy. I just am not able to fully grasp how it would feel for her because I have personally never been in her situation. I can imagine but I can never truly understand how it feels.
Using your rape example, yes I would sympathize, but I cannot even begin to imagine how it feels to be violated like that. I have asthma. I've had asthma attacks so bad I seriously thought I was going to die. Someone who doesn't have asthma can feel bad, but won't be able to truly understand what it's like to not be able to breath. Our past experiences shape our thoughts, beliefs, and our perceptions.
Posted by daynightskyPosted by R1g0rM0rT1s
what a load of baloney about not being able to sympathise with someone because of not having been in the same situation as them.
have you ever been raped? if not, would you sympathise with a victim of rape?
yeah you would cos it's an act that is universally acknowledged as being repulsive.
as is cheating or encouraging someone else to cheat. yeah, the attached person has the ability to say no but that doesn't absolve someone from blame if they have knowingly put that person in a position where they are tempted.
I do have sympathy. I just am not able to fully grasp how it would feel for her because I have personally never been in her situation. I can imagine but I can never truly understand how it feels.
Using your rape example, yes I would sympathize, but I cannot even begin to imagine how it feels to be violated like that. I have asthma. I've had asthma attacks so bad I seriously thought I was going to die. Someone who doesn't have asthma can feel bad, but won't be able to truly understand what it's like to not be able to breath. Our past experiences shape our thoughts, beliefs, and our perceptions.
click to expand
yes babe but we aren't talking about 'perceptions', we're talking about morality. most adults know what is considered acceptable and what isn't and it has nothing to do with whether you have asthma or not. i've had cancer and i STILL wouldn't actively pursue an unavailable man. my perception of LIFE is different but my morality hasn't been affected at all.
nala: i actually feel very flattered to be called leonine. thank you 🙂
in other words you don't have to grasp what his gf would feel like to be betrayed by her man to know that it isn't right to take him!!!!!!!
Morals are subjective. Something can be seen are horrible to you, but I can think nothing of it. No matter how many times you try and tell me it's horrible, Im not going to listen. I believe what I believe and you're just going going to have to deal with that. And everything I said is still relevant because as time goes on and we experience things, our morals will change.
^^^^^ truth!!
daynightsky: fortunately, i don't have to deal with what you choose to believe but if i were the leo's gf, i would just KNOW what you had in your mind and i would sit back and watch you make a twat of yourself.
daynightsky: fortunately, i don't have to deal with what you choose to believe but if i were the leo's gf, i would just KNOW what you had in your mind and i would sit back and watch you make a twat of yourself.
oh wow!! i had no idea she was so young!!
in that case she's only slightly older than my daughter and i will say what i would say to her. if a man wants you, let him come to you. always be yourself and don't play games or you'll end up the loser. now switch off your laptop and tidy up your bedroom!
in that case she's only slightly older than my daughter and i will say what i would say to her. if a man wants you, let him come to you. always be yourself and don't play games or you'll end up the loser. now switch off your laptop and tidy up your bedroom!
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I think, whether you are aware or not, you cannot be taken if you have no desire to be. When hurt people scream that at the person who carried out the perceived kidnapping it is because they cannot admit to themselves that it was in fact the person they put all of their trust in that laid beautifully garnished pieces of themselves out on silver platters to entice the starving to salve their hunger. I found out, post my marriage breakdown, that 2 men had tried to "take" me from my husband, I was not aware of this at the time and neither did my lack of awareness weaken my loyalty to my husband. I am not available to be Taken.