Leo men and their babies

This topic was created in the Leo forum by sarahsu on Friday, June 21, 2013 and has 12 replies.
I'm an Aries which I always think the perfect match with Leo. We dated for a little more than a year. During this year I'm not sure it's because of his fear of making commitment or sensitive ego, we were always on a on and off relationship. And each time it was always him asked for breakup when he was angry. But as an Aries woman I have a fighting spirit. I dnt easily give up on my love. I strive for the relationship as much as I could. I run to him I come to his apartment I ask for getting back together. Anyway no matter what happens I'm not going to leave him. So each time we turned out to get back together. Even though its difficult but I love him and I enjoy doing anything to keep my love. Things started to change since three months ago, I found out I was pregnant, my Leo man didn't panic but we sat down and pictured a future together. We started by renting a bigger apartment, we went for shop for new dishes and furnitures. We finally lived in together. But things didn't change much as he is the person he always he. Selfish, self-centered, live in his own world, despite my explanation but twisted my words into a negative way. We argued often since we moved in together. We argued on small things or I should say we argued on misunderstandings. The problem was he never listened to me, he believed in what he believed. And each time we argued, he asked me to leave its like he had the power in the house he could do whatever he wanted even sent me away. Normally I just cried and sat close to him and apologized. But two weeks ago, I said something really got on his nerves made him very angry. He asked me to pack my stuff and leave immediately. I asked him about how about our baby, how could he do that to our baby. He said sorry but he believed I would neer actually change, everything I did was too princess too childish. He couldn't bear living with me anymore. I begged for a long time to ask him to reconsider but still he was in big anger and lost control. I left en thought I knew he didn't really mean to ask me leave I knew he was only "drunk talk" but still I left. I couldn't bear his bossiness and bad temper anymore and I felt it was his fault to ask me leave. I was three months pregnant, no matter how angry he was he shouldn't have asked me to leave and even asked me to get rid of the baby. I went back home and cried to my family, I lost faith on him even I still loved him even now still I do but I had no choice but got the abortion. As I expected he texte
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Your writing appears cut off, but the most important part is 'you got the abortion'.
Unfortunately, a woman suffers most of the loss in her, because we carry that baby.
I'm assuming he is sorry now and wants to get back?
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Here is the rest: As I expected he texted me the next day, I accused him how terrible he behaved last night bla bla. He was regret and said he was really angry then he asked me to go back home. How could I go to him this time so easily when he made the big mistake to ask me to leave. I told him no and I said my family couldn't trust his words anymore. I would go get the abortion soon. I told him its not the mature time to keep the baby. We had problems to be solved. If we didn't fix the problem I couldn't ensure the baby living in a healthy happy family . I told him I can risk my life but I couldn't risk the baby's innocent life.
Actually if he came to my home and say nothing but ask me home and take me home with him I would definitely went with him. At least he should do something prove something with action so I can trust him again. With only calls and texts its so weak. Even after the abortion when I asked him about this he confessed he did come but couldn't find the way here. I was so sad he didn't text me and told me he was nearby so I could lead him here or at least I knew e tried. It would change my mind for giving up the baby. I never wanted to give up my baby because I really couldn't afford on my own to be as a single mother and even if I went back to him I couldn't ensure he would never send me away again. I didn't want a broken family I didn't want to take pain to the baby so I "killed" it. If I had another chance I would never do that. A life is precious, I should have tried harder to believe him one more time before I ended the baby's life. After the abortion when I realized I still loved my Leo and sent him an email about how I felt about our relationship and how much I love him, how much I want to fix our problem so we can move forward. He turned me down. He said I was no longer the girl he loved. He said it was his anger made him losing control. He said something but he never meant but I actually did the abortion. He can never forgive me on that ad when the day I killed our baby it's the end. We were finished.
I'm writing this for sharing my story ad also hope my experience can offer something to te girls who are right now dealing with Leo men especially the girls are involved with Leo men's kids. Remember, if you truly love your Leo please dnt give up on his kids easily because Leo has strong love towards his kids and as soon as you lost the kids you lost your man as well. I didn't know about this when I did it, now leaving only r
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now leaving only regrets but I hope the girls who are in the same situation please take this as a piece of advice. Good luck with you all. I might move on my life but hopefully he can turn back to me I wish!
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Its still so hard for me, i lost the baby its not my plan at all. If i never wanted to keep it i wouldnt wait until now, i would just get rid of it, when we just found out i was pregnant. When one day later he confessed he had a marriage before with two kids, a boy and a girl. I didnt leave him I didnt abandon the baby at that moment, even he always told me he was single all the time, being 39 but never married was because of studing on his PHD. i totally trusted him, but when he confessed i was shocked i couldnt even breath. Well deep down i still loved him. So past was the past, i let it go. I moved in with him. But no matter how angry he was how terrible mood he was in, how unreasonable my words were, he should never asked me to leave and even point to "kill" the baby. I knew he was angry talk, but he shouldnt have done it. Also, i shouldnt have just left and did the abortion. I took the most the precious life away from him, he is now in huge pain and said can never get back together with me. I turn as a killer an evil girl for him, im no longer pure and innocent. No matter how much pain im suffering, he only feels his pain. I still love him even dreaming one day he will come back. But time will tell...
Thank you all, thank you Jynja to listen to me and even give me advise and support. i will live positively.
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Thank you aurora...on the other hand it's also my fault to allow this happen on me over and over again. I also have my temper, I'm normally not a submissive girl. But when I'm with him, when I admire him so much, when I adore his smile sweetness, every time he got angry I just surrendered to him. I even believe there must be a person to take compromise if the other is too aggressive. So I never stopped him instead I was being to easy and weak. As soon as got him back I immediately forgot about what he had done on me. How miserable he made me when he left each time.
I still think its his angry talk but when he talks each time is so real. I can't tell if he means what he says. He just bought me the engagement ring and wedding band three weeks ago. We almost going to get the paper and be officially married if the argument didn't happen. He wanted to spend the life with me and the baby I knew it. Even though he confessed he was a little nervous about marriage but he begged me to come back when I already left and planning the abortion. I just wished him could have done more than just calls and texts. He said he came to my house but he couldn't find it in the end. I dnt know if I should trust him or not but at least he shouldn't have texted me when he lost the way here but he didn't. So I never know if he really came or not. If he really showed up, everything could have been changed.
Till now I'm still checking on his updates even I'm pretty sure he deleted me and then I deleted him afterwards. But I'm still checking on his comments from "I can't say hello to you and risk another goodbye" to " Mmm spaghetti". When I changed mine to some positive funny post. He changed his to "word, how little it means" and "how strange I think I never know you at all" until just now I changed mine to "so close so far away". His immediately changed to "I would have been so happy".
I dnt know if he is also checking on my updates but I feel he is. But receiving yesterday his dead end email "You gave up and quit, and you did something that you can't fix and you can't say sorry for. You can't come back. Live with your decision." I know I shouldn't make any action to draw him back. The more I do will only push him further away. So I didn't even reply on him and its been a day now, I heard nothing from him. How to do for forgetting this man I loved and still care about? It's so hard.
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I know I didn't try or fight harder but I strongly felt it wasn't a good time to raise a child under that circumstances. Few days ago it was me to ema him about how disappointed I was when he didn't try to win me back by actions and also explained the pressure from my family and all related reasons so that the timing was mature enough.(not to mention it was he to point me to leave and plan to pay for the abortion--angry talk?) so anyway I expressed how I still love him and care about him, would like to try work things out if he agrees. We can take things slow this time to have better communication. I asked him not to hurry in reply, maybe think about it and take a day or two to answer me. However, he didn't only use 30mins to reject me but use bad words to criticize on me for getting an abortion over an argument. "Saying how much he begged me but I still made this dicision. He couldn't imagine I actually did it but how much he loved me and our baby. He said he was in huge pain thus can't even think about it and couldn't even look at me again."
I wanted a try but he refused. I didn't reply on him while afterwards he sent me more emails to beat me up even worse. It's like I'm the only one who made the mistake and cause the problem. However, I feel he is still noticing on me but why being so hard? If two people love eah other why not put this all behind and work on our problems. I now put lotta efforts in this forum to understand him better and I truly do. How come he isn't willing to give it a try but blaming all this on me? Hurt someone you love make you happy or feel better? Guess maybe he has no more love for me only hateSad
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You poor thing, sounds like a truly horrible experience.
Of course, what's done is done. But it does sound that regardless of this man's sign he has been a right jerk. A massive manipulator, and sounds terrible.
And you are right in thinking that it the relationship wasn't a very stable environment for a child to be brought into. TBH the 'relationship' doesn't sound like a very good environment for you either.
Please try not to be so hard on yourself. Thank you for sharing, hugs, and I hope you feel better soon.
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Posted by LilliLou
You poor thing, sounds like a truly horrible experience.
Of course, what's done is done. But it does sound that regardless of this man's sign he has been a right jerk. A massive manipulator, and sounds terrible.
And you are right in thinking that it the relationship wasn't a very stable environment for a child to be brought into. TBH the 'relationship' doesn't sound like a very good environment for you either.
Please try not to be so hard on yourself. Thank you for sharing, hugs, and I hope you feel better soon.


Thank you LilliLou, it's a difficult time for me but as everybody says time will heal, I'm sure in a year I will be much better and even can walk out of this. Maybe you are right I excuse for him on his sign, i was being too kind while he is a horrible man already. I was too blind to see it even now I can't believe he is a pig.
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today he came to my house all of a sudden after i was ignoring him for last whole week. This afternoon i was out to get my car fixed -- the tyre was completely flat and i had to change a new one. when i fixed everything back from maintenance store and after i parked my car and walking home. I received him call and found out he was already at my house. i told him i would be home soon.
when i got home i found him was really there, we talked a bit, i was acting really cool but felt appreciated inside that he came to find me. we talked about 30mins then out for dinner--he insisted, at least have a dinner together.
anyway, he wants us can be back together and he will tke better care of me bla bla. however i didnt feel strongly he felt deeply sorry for what he casued on me. he said he will change his temper and he isnt perfect so thats why he behaved like that...
he wanted to hold my hands and put arm around me, i didnt feel comfortable so i denied. he called when i was back home asking if everything was ok. Adding me on skype which i didnt accept his invitation before. tonight i re-added him but i told him it would be the last time i accept it. i told him that he cant delete me then re-add me again just like kicked me out then asked for getting back together.
im so confused now. i dnt know how come this time he really came for me, when he texted me after today's meeting asking if i was happy tonight, im not sure what should i reply. i dnt want to make him to feel im so easy again. what should i behave this time. i reallt dnt wanna get hurt.
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you are smart for having the abortion. could you imagine having to accept the treatment and scraps he throws at you now WITH a child to boot?
save having a child with someone who won't stress you the hell out.
otherwise, our pregnancy will be horrible and your post-partum even moreso.
trust me, you don't want that kind of pain. it can kill you.
forget coming between a leo and his child...if he cannot respect the mother, what kind of child is he gonna raise?
what an asshole...he deserves no child right now.
i wonder why hs multi-childbearing wife left him...hmmmmmm...
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I'm horrified that your Leo would make you leave knowing you're pregnant and with that pregnant with HIS child.
I don't think you should be taking as much blame as you are. You have acknowledged your part in the matter, but I don't see where he is taking ANY responsibility for his part in all in this at all, and it really bothers me. And then to turn around and throw you away like some kind of trash after the fact is piling on insult on top of injury. You are not a door mat for him to unleash fury on rather drunk or otherwise. Trust is being broken all over the place here. Try to put all of your attention on healing your heart right now. This was a loss for you too dear one.
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