Leo Men I need your Advice
This topic was created in the Leo forum by ChanelLuc on Sunday, January 7, 2018 and has 18 replies.
Hi Everyone,
Please be kind to me, I'm completely new to this. I really need some advice... Leo Men, do you guys admit fault? Do you always only see things from your perspective or are you open to hearing another person out? My Leo man and I got into an argument over not returning phone calls. He went from being Mr.Sweetheart and calling/texting everyday to ignoring me or pushing me off for 3 days after I sent a text asking him as sweetly as possible that I really needed to talk to him and needed his advice. After 3 days of being pushed off and suddenly calling me dramatic, I had it. I told him, "Since I'm such a burden, let me exit out of your life". He responded with "I'm so mad at you". I never replied. I'm EXTREMELY hurt by Leo. I would never disrespect and push someone off for 3 days...especially someone I was pursuing a future with. We've also been friends for a very long time. It's been about 4 days since the argument and no contact. Can anyone tell me what's the deal..Did I hit a nerve? Why the sudden shift? We weren't official with a title yet but we were exclusively dating building towards a relationship. (His words) Any shed light is greatly appreciated!
Many Thanks!
Please be kind to me, I'm completely new to this. I really need some advice... Leo Men, do you guys admit fault? Do you always only see things from your perspective or are you open to hearing another person out? My Leo man and I got into an argument over not returning phone calls. He went from being Mr.Sweetheart and calling/texting everyday to ignoring me or pushing me off for 3 days after I sent a text asking him as sweetly as possible that I really needed to talk to him and needed his advice. After 3 days of being pushed off and suddenly calling me dramatic, I had it. I told him, "Since I'm such a burden, let me exit out of your life". He responded with "I'm so mad at you". I never replied. I'm EXTREMELY hurt by Leo. I would never disrespect and push someone off for 3 days...especially someone I was pursuing a future with. We've also been friends for a very long time. It's been about 4 days since the argument and no contact. Can anyone tell me what's the deal..Did I hit a nerve? Why the sudden shift? We weren't official with a title yet but we were exclusively dating building towards a relationship. (His words) Any shed light is greatly appreciated!
Many Thanks!
So the only argument was about the fact that he hadn't called or text you in 3 days? Was that the only argument? Also what was so important that you needed to get his immediate advice?
It sounds like you became accustomed to the Leo's constant communication and became concerned when he backed off.
It sounds like you became accustomed to the Leo's constant communication and became concerned when he backed off.
@Chuckcem That's exactly what happened...I got so accustomed to his will to communicate that when he suddenly didn't, I become concerned. However, after we spoke he said he wants to be in a relationship with me, he wants to be my man, but he can't at the moment due to his "busy" schedule. To me, that sounds like loads of BS but I like to give the benefit of the doubt and try to see things from another persons perspective/ insight. He does have an extremely time consuming schedule. But, I'm the romantic type that if you truly have feelings for someone, you figure out a way to keep them in your life. Any insight, I completely appreciate. Truly, thank you for taking the time to reply to my message.
Posted by ChanelLucAs you've already admitted he has a extremely time consuming schedule, so why would you doubt how "busy" he is? A busy Leo will have a lot of on our plate and it can be difficult to maintain romantic relationships when we are in serious work mode. Leos are like Tauruses in that we can become workaholics. When that happens we tend to put other things on hold.
@Chuckcem That's exactly what happened...I got so accustomed to his will to communicate that when he suddenly didn't, I become concerned. However, after we spoke he said he wants to be in a relationship with me, he wants to be my man, but he can't at the moment due to his "busy" schedule. To me, that sounds like loads of BS but I like to give the benefit of the doubt and try to see things from another persons perspective/ insight. He does have an extremely time consuming schedule. But, I'm the romantic type that if you truly have feelings for someone, you figure out a way to keep them in your life. Any insight, I completely appreciate. Truly, thank you for taking the time to reply to my message.
To put it simply, the Leo doesn't have enough time to focus on a relationship. Since his lack of communication has apparently upset you, the Leo is backing off. He knows that he can't give you the constant attention that you appear to be asking for him. The pressure of that has inspired him to end things with you.
Posted by Chuckcemi'm in a similar boat kind of
So the only argument was about the fact that he hadn't called or text you in 3 days? Was that the only argument? Also what was so important that you needed to get his immediate advice?
It sounds like you became accustomed to the Leo's constant communication and became concerned when he backed off.
whats with fire sign and the intense fire then all of the sudden maybe got involved and backed off?
ok we had this intense wanting to get a puppy talk and that went straight down hill from there.
we both got freaked out
but its all fine now, we talked about how we don't wanna see other people etc.
but.. he's still a bit cold and not as chatty. what is happening now. lol
i wonder too how fire express their feelings, needs or want?
how they deal with emotion ?
Posted by ChanelLucfrom what i have read here and I'm not a leo but..
@Chuckcem That's exactly what happened...I got so accustomed to his will to communicate that when he suddenly didn't, I become concerned. However, after we spoke he said he wants to be in a relationship with me, he wants to be my man, but he can't at the moment due to his "busy" schedule. To me, that sounds like loads of BS but I like to give the benefit of the doubt and try to see things from another persons perspective/ insight. He does have an extremely time consuming schedule. But, I'm the romantic type that if you truly have feelings for someone, you figure out a way to keep them in your life. Any insight, I completely appreciate. Truly, thank you for taking the time to reply to my message.
maybe u need to trust him? if he says he wanna be with you u need to trust that
perhaps he's really busy and leo is a DOER sign...so i guess when he decides to do something like a relationship with u he wanna make sure he has everything he needs to make that successful?
i guess Leo isn't like aries... aries move fast like speed of light but they don't last
as leo, they take a bit more time considering they r fire sign but once they invest i believe its long term.
so it needs more thinking,planning etc... which is always a good thing in the long run
i seen many aries men, who go on in...then burn out quickly... thats why i would not date one
anyway,
how long have u been dating?
--- i meant to say, as leo, they take a bit more time considering they r fire but FIXED sign but once they invest i believe its long term.
Posted by Supesin this case,
The problem with us Leos is that we go and go and go until we exhaust ourselves. When this happens, we become cranky and need some recharge time.
If he’s already super busy with work and trying to date you on top of it, then he’s prob exhausted on several levels.
When people are exhausted they don’t think clearly.
This is no excuse for pushing you away. He just needed to communicate his level of exhaustion BEFORE shutting down
what do u need during the recharge time
do u need LOTS OF SPACE like aqua or do u prefer ur mate- or the person u date to do something nice for u ?? as a man, what do u need? i'm curious..
Posted by ChuckcemLeos are like Tauruses in that we can become workaholics. When that happens we tend to put other things on hold.Posted by ChanelLucAs you've already admitted he has a extremely time consuming schedule, so why would you doubt how "busy" he is? A busy Leo will have a lot of on our plate and it can be difficult to maintain romantic relationships when we are in serious work mode. Leos are like Tauruses in that we can become workaholics. When that happens we tend to put other things on hold.
@Chuckcem That's exactly what happened...I got so accustomed to his will to communicate that when he suddenly didn't, I become concerned. However, after we spoke he said he wants to be in a relationship with me, he wants to be my man, but he can't at the moment due to his "busy" schedule. To me, that sounds like loads of BS but I like to give the benefit of the doubt and try to see things from another persons perspective/ insight. He does have an extremely time consuming schedule. But, I'm the romantic type that if you truly have feelings for someone, you figure out a way to keep them in your life. Any insight, I completely appreciate. Truly, thank you for taking the time to reply to my message.
To put it simply, the Leo doesn't have enough time to focus on a relationship. Since his lack of communication has apparently upset you, the Leo is backing off. He knows that he can't give you the constant attention that you appear to be asking for him. The pressure of that has inspired him to end things with you.click to expand
-- you are right, we taurus are pretty bad too- i think leo work hard to attain amazing nice things in life lol
seriously that have the best of the best--
how stressed do you get at work ??
how do you deal with it?
the Leo i'm dating drinks a lot..
Posted by saweetz1988Leos will indulge to relieve stress. That could be mean an excess of drinking, eating, etc. However some Leos will replace their vices with something more productive like an activity, hobby, or physical fitness.Posted by ChuckcemLeos are like Tauruses in that we can become workaholics. When that happens we tend to put other things on hold.Posted by ChanelLucAs you've already admitted he has a extremely time consuming schedule, so why would you doubt how "busy" he is? A busy Leo will have a lot of on our plate and it can be difficult to maintain romantic relationships when we are in serious work mode. Leos are like Tauruses in that we can become workaholics. When that happens we tend to put other things on hold.
@Chuckcem That's exactly what happened...I got so accustomed to his will to communicate that when he suddenly didn't, I become concerned. However, after we spoke he said he wants to be in a relationship with me, he wants to be my man, but he can't at the moment due to his "busy" schedule. To me, that sounds like loads of BS but I like to give the benefit of the doubt and try to see things from another persons perspective/ insight. He does have an extremely time consuming schedule. But, I'm the romantic type that if you truly have feelings for someone, you figure out a way to keep them in your life. Any insight, I completely appreciate. Truly, thank you for taking the time to reply to my message.
To put it simply, the Leo doesn't have enough time to focus on a relationship. Since his lack of communication has apparently upset you, the Leo is backing off. He knows that he can't give you the constant attention that you appear to be asking for him. The pressure of that has inspired him to end things with you.
-- you are right, we taurus are pretty bad too- i think leo work hard to attain amazing nice things in life lol
seriously that have the best of the best--
how stressed do you get at work ??
how do you deal with it?
the Leo i'm dating drinks a lot..click to expand
Posted by Cancervirgo15degreesAre you a cancer ? Another cancer and Leo couple?
I can only speak from experience to the one leo o ever been with and am currently with.
He told me a lot of not so nice things about himself and how he acted when he was younger. He told me a lot of mistakes he made.
He is much more grounded and mature now.
When we started dating he made a tremendous amount of effort to come and see me as we were in a long distance relationship. He owns multiple businesses and had a demanding career. But his exact words when i said he was so busy and should focus on his life more were "life is short and i already fucked up love once and im not letting it out of my sight a second time"
It sounds like your leo is how they describe 'an unevolved leo"
I just dont think he sounds ready
@Chuckcem
So here's the thing, I don't doubt that he's busy. However, I've always let him be the one to establish the pace of the "relationship". When he suddenly went MIA, obviously any person would think something is up. We've spoken since and as you say, he has backed off because I was upset of his lack of communication. Had he just been clear that there was no issue between us, I would've trusted it and not been demanding of his time. I now understand his need for distance. Here's the thing, I don't at all need constant attention. I never asked for such nor would I because I run a business of my own. I just need a clear key of communication. Meaning, Hey babe, think of you, I'll talk to you when I can. Not, 4 days of suddenly not speaking. He says he wants to be in a relationship, but can't give me the time. I've expressed the understanding to his needs. However, he wants to still build with me. Care to shed some light on what that means? haha Your advice seems to run parallel to his thoughts and I could really use your great insight.
I guess I'm confused... He says, he wants a relationship with ME but can't at the moment. However, wants to still be physical and build together. (build towards what if not a relationship?) When I brought up the question of exclusivity he says, I never mentioned anyone else. So I expressed okay, so we'd be "dating" with no title but are "exclusive towards the other" and then says he needs to think about it? His ways of expression is just foggy. Help, I need some light... haha Thank You @Chuckcem, honestly. You've given me some new perspectives to consider and think about. So appreciate you.
So here's the thing, I don't doubt that he's busy. However, I've always let him be the one to establish the pace of the "relationship". When he suddenly went MIA, obviously any person would think something is up. We've spoken since and as you say, he has backed off because I was upset of his lack of communication. Had he just been clear that there was no issue between us, I would've trusted it and not been demanding of his time. I now understand his need for distance. Here's the thing, I don't at all need constant attention. I never asked for such nor would I because I run a business of my own. I just need a clear key of communication. Meaning, Hey babe, think of you, I'll talk to you when I can. Not, 4 days of suddenly not speaking. He says he wants to be in a relationship, but can't give me the time. I've expressed the understanding to his needs. However, he wants to still build with me. Care to shed some light on what that means? haha Your advice seems to run parallel to his thoughts and I could really use your great insight.
I guess I'm confused... He says, he wants a relationship with ME but can't at the moment. However, wants to still be physical and build together. (build towards what if not a relationship?) When I brought up the question of exclusivity he says, I never mentioned anyone else. So I expressed okay, so we'd be "dating" with no title but are "exclusive towards the other" and then says he needs to think about it? His ways of expression is just foggy. Help, I need some light... haha Thank You @Chuckcem, honestly. You've given me some new perspectives to consider and think about. So appreciate you.
Posted by ChanelLucSo the first thing to know is that women actually decide the pace of the relationship, while guys initiate. If you're expecting a guy to handle the pacing then you run the risk of having things run too slow, too fast, or not at all. That's because guys aren't focused on emotional bonding as much. Instead we're designed to change the pace by shaking things up (setting dates, pushing boundaries, etc). If he's expected to control the pacing, just know that the relationship will only move along his schedule and halt when he's preoccupied.
@Chuckcem
So here's the thing, I don't doubt that he's busy. However, I've always let him be the one to establish the pace of the "relationship". When he suddenly went MIA, obviously any person would think something is up. We've spoken since and as you say, he has backed off because I was upset of his lack of communication. Had he just been clear that there was no issue between us, I would've trusted it and not been demanding of his time. I now understand his need for distance. Here's the thing, I don't at all need constant attention. I never asked for such nor would I because I run a business of my own. I just need a clear key of communication. Meaning, Hey babe, think of you, I'll talk to you when I can. Not, 4 days of suddenly not speaking. He says he wants to be in a relationship, but can't give me the time. I've expressed the understanding to his needs. However, he wants to still build with me. Care to shed some light on what that means? haha Your advice seems to run parallel to his thoughts and I could really use your great insight.
I guess I'm confused... He says, he wants a relationship with ME but can't at the moment. However, wants to still be physical and build together. (build towards what if not a relationship?) When I brought up the question of exclusivity he says, I never mentioned anyone else. So I expressed okay, so we'd be "dating" with no title but are "exclusive towards the other" and then says he needs to think about it? His ways of expression is just foggy. Help, I need some light... haha Thank You @Chuckcem, honestly. You've given me some new perspectives to consider and think about. So appreciate you.
So if you meant that you would wait for the Leo to initiate contact, that makes sense. However know that this Leo's communication style was not one that he could maintain for a long time. He basically communicated with your everyday to show his interest, but after that he scaled it back considerably. Every person is different, but this is a common mistake guys make when trying to attract women. Once a woman becomes accustomed to that communication style , it can be jarring to change.
It sounds like he just wants to date for now and possibly be friends with benefits. He may not have anyone else he is interested in, but he doesn't sound like he wants the responsibility of a full on exclusive relationship yet. It sounds like things may have become too "serious" for him too fast, so he's trying to dial it back.
@N0n4 Yes, I completely agree with you. Always two sides to every story. I never once thought I was the only one "hurting" but I can assure you being ignored is never a fun feeling or a trait I posses with it me. It's hurtful, unnecessary and immature. He can communicate he needs time but to flat out go Mia if you really care for someone is wrong no matter the situation.
I did admit and am always willing to admit fault. I did happily reach out and tried my hardest to lighten the situation by showing him I don't easily walk away & gave him the floor to hear his side and respect his opinion (something I wish he'd be more open to doing). However, I won't put up with him calling/labeling me in categories that are untrue or unrealistic to just put blame on another. He was mad because he was under the assumption I was making a bluff scenario in order to lure him into talking to me. (His psycho ex used to do that and he realized he imposed those past feeling on me rather than actually hearing me out because I wasn't bluffing and really needed him as a friend. He finally admitted fault in which I tremendously appreciate). Never will I ever make myself out to be an "innocent" party. I care too much for this person to waist mine or anyone else's time giving me advice/insight on here to be "innocent" on this board.
We spoke and heard each other out, I admitted fault and for once, he did too. However, we are still in a fuzzy situation but nonetheless happy to have him in my life both with the good & the bad. =)
I did admit and am always willing to admit fault. I did happily reach out and tried my hardest to lighten the situation by showing him I don't easily walk away & gave him the floor to hear his side and respect his opinion (something I wish he'd be more open to doing). However, I won't put up with him calling/labeling me in categories that are untrue or unrealistic to just put blame on another. He was mad because he was under the assumption I was making a bluff scenario in order to lure him into talking to me. (His psycho ex used to do that and he realized he imposed those past feeling on me rather than actually hearing me out because I wasn't bluffing and really needed him as a friend. He finally admitted fault in which I tremendously appreciate). Never will I ever make myself out to be an "innocent" party. I care too much for this person to waist mine or anyone else's time giving me advice/insight on here to be "innocent" on this board.
We spoke and heard each other out, I admitted fault and for once, he did too. However, we are still in a fuzzy situation but nonetheless happy to have him in my life both with the good & the bad. =)
@Chuckcem I don't know who you are but boy have you been a light shed in my life. Thank you for all your advice. You and him have the EXACT same though process.
OMG YES TO THIS = ("He basically communicated with your everyday to show his interest, but after that he scaled it back considerably. Every person is different, but this is a common mistake guys make when trying to attract women. Once a woman becomes accustomed to that communication style , it can be jarring to change. ") .... My whole issue was for him to just communicate with me he'd be taking a step back and then I wouldn't have been so concerned or worried that something was wrong. It was hot & cold so quickly and out of the character I know him to be that I didn't know what to expect.
("It sounds like he just wants to date for now and possibly be friends with benefits. He may not have anyone else he is interested in, but he doesn't sound like he wants the responsibility of a full on exclusive relationship yet. It sounds like things may have become too "serious" for him too fast, so he's trying to dial it back.") ..... We've spoken since and I told him I'd be willing to date for now and build towards a relationship down the line as long as we were "exclusively" having fun with each other only. I'm also not in a rush to go into full "relationship mode". I don't need the extra attention. The little texts through the week he used to voluntarily send that said "Hey beautiful have a wonderful day" or "Thinking about you" was what I cherished most, what meant most to me and what I miss with every once of my being. It was those 10 seconds that fluttered my heart. I'm perfectly fine with waiting and allowing it to flourish as it goes. How do you recommend I grab his attention back? Or better yet....Help him understand that I'm willing to be respectful of his time & his goals & still want to stand by his side? Any wrong or right way to approach him? Give him space? Send a text? You and him are parallel minds. You have no idea how much you've already helped me! Thank you, Thank you, Thank you!
OMG YES TO THIS = ("He basically communicated with your everyday to show his interest, but after that he scaled it back considerably. Every person is different, but this is a common mistake guys make when trying to attract women. Once a woman becomes accustomed to that communication style , it can be jarring to change. ") .... My whole issue was for him to just communicate with me he'd be taking a step back and then I wouldn't have been so concerned or worried that something was wrong. It was hot & cold so quickly and out of the character I know him to be that I didn't know what to expect.
("It sounds like he just wants to date for now and possibly be friends with benefits. He may not have anyone else he is interested in, but he doesn't sound like he wants the responsibility of a full on exclusive relationship yet. It sounds like things may have become too "serious" for him too fast, so he's trying to dial it back.") ..... We've spoken since and I told him I'd be willing to date for now and build towards a relationship down the line as long as we were "exclusively" having fun with each other only. I'm also not in a rush to go into full "relationship mode". I don't need the extra attention. The little texts through the week he used to voluntarily send that said "Hey beautiful have a wonderful day" or "Thinking about you" was what I cherished most, what meant most to me and what I miss with every once of my being. It was those 10 seconds that fluttered my heart. I'm perfectly fine with waiting and allowing it to flourish as it goes. How do you recommend I grab his attention back? Or better yet....Help him understand that I'm willing to be respectful of his time & his goals & still want to stand by his side? Any wrong or right way to approach him? Give him space? Send a text? You and him are parallel minds. You have no idea how much you've already helped me! Thank you, Thank you, Thank you!
Posted by ChanelLucBasically state what's on your mind. Let him know how much you cherished his messages. With Leos we sometimes assume that the little things we do aren't being appreciated, unless we're told otherwise. Unless you vocalized your appreciation of these messages, the Leo may not have thought they were that important to you.
@Chuckcem I don't know who you are but boy have you been a light shed in my life. Thank you for all your advice. You and him have the EXACT same though process.
OMG YES TO THIS = ("He basically communicated with your everyday to show his interest, but after that he scaled it back considerably. Every person is different, but this is a common mistake guys make when trying to attract women. Once a woman becomes accustomed to that communication style , it can be jarring to change. ") .... My whole issue was for him to just communicate with me he'd be taking a step back and then I wouldn't have been so concerned or worried that something was wrong. It was hot & cold so quickly and out of the character I know him to be that I didn't know what to expect.
("It sounds like he just wants to date for now and possibly be friends with benefits. He may not have anyone else he is interested in, but he doesn't sound like he wants the responsibility of a full on exclusive relationship yet. It sounds like things may have become too "serious" for him too fast, so he's trying to dial it back.") ..... We've spoken since and I told him I'd be willing to date for now and build towards a relationship down the line as long as we were "exclusively" having fun with each other only. I'm also not in a rush to go into full "relationship mode". I don't need the extra attention. The little texts through the week he used to voluntarily send that said "Hey beautiful have a wonderful day" or "Thinking about you" was what I cherished most, what meant most to me and what I miss with every once of my being. It was those 10 seconds that fluttered my heart. I'm perfectly fine with waiting and allowing it to flourish as it goes. How do you recommend I grab his attention back? Or better yet....Help him understand that I'm willing to be respectful of his time & his goals & still want to stand by his side? Any wrong or right way to approach him? Give him space? Send a text? You and him are parallel minds. You have no idea how much you've already helped me! Thank you, Thank you, Thank you!
Beyond that just give the Leo space to come to you. The reality is if he's busy, he'll need to come to you on his own time. Let him know that you understand his need for space and to contact you when he's free so that you two can get together. Then get busy doing your own thing.
I just had a Leo with a Taurus moon leave our budding relationship because he was focusing on his work. He was amazing. Oddly enough, I took some comfort in reading that I’m not the only one who has dealt with the busy Leo situarion. I’m putting faith that we can be friends at some point, and hopefully build something more in the future. Just focus on yourself. It sucks, I know.
THEy can be workaholic. They need someone as busy as themselves or know how to give space. 12 hours work is short for the Leo I’m seeing apparently .
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