Scorpio & LEO (Were married now dating?)

I missed u all...hope everyone is happy and I'm catching up on everyone's posts.

I ditched the dating thing for a bit, concentrated on work, etc.

OK...long story short, was married 2x...first time was 18 years ago to a Leo. We were very much in love, married for 3 years went through a bitter divorce. We didn't speak for 18 years but saw each other out the past few years (he now lives in diff. state but visits 4x year). We chitchat and laugh about our past, nothing big. He never re-married. I did, got divorced, niether of us has/had kids.

He called me Labor day weekend "This is your favorite X-Husband" he said, he was in town and wanted to take me to dinner. Very wierd. I agreed and we both agreed we would keep it a secret from friends and family (they would not understand after what we went through divorcing). After dinner, He spent the rest of the weekend at my house, eating pizza and watching movies, talking, arguing, crying. It was still a great time, as he we never left each other.

He called me a few days laters and we spoke for hours. "I want you to come to my state for the weekend". He bought a tix and i went down last weekend.

Best weekend i ever had...a blast. His friends all say my ex has never been happier and so "giddy" knowing i was coming down to see him. Introducing me to all of his friends as "His future and past ex-wife". I flew home, he called me that night and once again spoke for hours. We are seeing each other in 2 weeks when i am there for business.

We always have been in love w/ each other and he tells me he is a different man now (he was 26 when we were married...now he is 44). We both agreed just to see where this goes..but at this point still keep it hush hush (my mom would KILL me)

Different man...possible? Possible to trust a Leo and what he says? Am I headed for disaster?

This is pretty much exactly what happened with my best friend (scorp) and her now husband (leo).

They were never married but did date broke up for years, got back together for a month, and are now married.

Nice to see you again by the way. Hope you are well.

Hi Little sparrow...was just reading your posts...trying to catch up so I will reply to your posts as I go through them. I missed everyone.

A few years is one thing...but after 15 years?? Never thought this would happen.

The divorce was due to his "issues" (ie-cheating)...he admits everything and says he regrets it all and he is a changed man.

Hi Sophie,

Yours is an interesting story. I don't know what to tell ya, only you can make the decision yourself. What might help is to be super observant and move EXTRA SLOW (we leos tend to get ahead of ourselves, so you're gonna have to be the steady source).

Keep track of character traits you notice about him that reminds you of who he was 18 yrs ago. That could be a huge clue as to whether or not he's changed. Also, try to remeber back to what it was like when you two first started dating...are things moving at the same pace? Is he saying and doing the same things he did before? Stuff like that. Lastly, remain skeptical. I don't know what happened between the two of you (and you both should talk about it...it may be in the past, but your past together has a lot to do w/ your future, together).

On a more positive note, I think everyone always deserves a second chance. I do believe that he could very well being a changed man. I'm sure you have both moved beyond your woudns, so try to have fun for now and TAKE YOUR TIME!

Good luck and keep us posted!

Hi TruthSeeker,
I am moving VERY Slow...we already know each other like a book, and he does seem to be a different man...more caring/loving/sensitive...perhaps age.

No "getting to know each other"/"dating awkwardness" etc...just getting to know who we are TODAY.

I threw away EVERYthing years ago that reminded me of him...yet he told me last weekend he has every letter/card that I ever gave him and photos of us still, our wedding video he watched all the time he tells me. I guess he never let go but I tried....to no avail.

Last time we spoke was on Sunday night he called when I got back home. I am now in Los Angeles. I will not call him, let him simmer in our great weekend last weekend, and hopefully hear from him before weeks out.

He truly has opened up to me like I have never seen before. Our past, his present and future...

I do see him in 2 weeks and I cannot believe I am like a little kid again.

We'll see what happens....

Jack,
You are very right....I guess no one can change who they really are...

Hi Chocolate and jack,
Oh...I have certainly evaluated myself over the past 15 years and I of course I own where I went wrong and had my issues were (I was only 20 when we were married). I went through lots of therapy after the divorce and do take my blame. I guess its more that we have both "grown up"....changed in a maturity type of way.

I am here in LA on biz and he became a little obsessive Saturday night when he knew I was having dinner with a guy-friend whom he knows from our town. This guy has been friends w/ my family since I was a child, no romantic interest. Well, Ex husband called 4x that night...every hour until 3am his time.

Jealousy was never his thing back when he was in his 20's, perhaps its age?
Plus, we live indifferent states (I am East Coast ...he is down South)...at this point, this re-kindling is very new (we have spent 3 weekends together in 2 months...I will see him again on Wednesday)...we have no "established relationship" other than we are casually dating. Jelousy already? He never use to be..

Hey chocolate,
Have I thought about establishing a relationship? Sort of...but impossible since I live in the East and him in the South.

It is what it is.

He called me Monday night while I was in LA but I was crazy busy , by the time I got out of client dinner it was too late to call him. I ended up flying back Tuesday night red eye and he called me 2x on Wednesday asking "Hey Hollywood girl...are you MIA or what? You havn't called me back"

I did call him back that night after sleeping all day (6 hour flight)

We spoke for an hour...planning our get together for next weekend as I will be in Miami for business and he is meeting me there.

ALSO...my birthday next week so curious what an ex-husband gets for an ex-wife when they are dating again...hahahahaha!!!!!

Chocoate...
YUP...he remembered my birthday and how old I am going to be, what time I was born..he even remembered our exact wedding date (I forgot) and our wedding song (I forgot) and the day we met and how we met in 1987 (I forgot)

Hmm......

It sounds exactly like my best friend's situation.

Let us know what happens. Good luck!

Hi Choco...
This cannot go any further than it is now....our parents would freak out...especially my mom and dad. Like I said...we are sneaking right now.

Don't know why this happened at this time in our lives...and he told me he had no idea why he felt the need to call me that weekend he was here and ask me to dinner.

I guess things happen for a reason...

How are you doing BTW Choco?

Yep. Him Leo and Her Scorp. They were together for several years. He was really bad to her, forgot her birthday, Valentine's Day, wouldn't call for weeks sometimes months ... so eventually she dumped him. He came back and proposed. She dumped him again. They didn't talk for several years. He came back, proposed, she accepted, they married a month later and seem very happy.

NOW he treats her like gold.

Oh and he remembers every detail about her and their relationship. He always knew she was the one he just wasn't ready before.

Wow little sparrow...thats interesting.
Makes me think that time makes one realize what they had and lost....

Well, he called me on Sunday morning (we hadnt spoken since he called Wed) and I called him back that night. We spoke for 4 and a half hours...He was hopping from bar to bar and we were talking as he was doing so. Never have him nor I have done that before...with anyone.

We talked about everything. Very comforting.

He keeps mentioning other guys, guys I dated after him or perhaps a bunch of guys I may be dating (I'm not) but he doesnt believe me.

"So, sophie, you have a hot guy next to you in your bed right now?"

"Sophie, How many dates have you been on this weekend? All the guys all over you I assume"

Geesh...he's 44 years old. He was never like this before.

So I am flying down south for business and to celebrate my B'day and he is driving over on Friday and Saturday night.

We both agreed we have no idea where this is going and may "blow up" this weekend or at some point, so we are taking it day by day.

Hi Choco...
I have been explaining that I have only been thinking about him. I told him I have dated 3 people in 3 years of being single, and he is the only person i have been with in 7 months. He did not believe me, but its true as I engulfed myself in work.

But I don't want to give him a false impression that I am sitting here waiting for him as we are 2000 miles apart. We have not spoken of "not dating" other people right now.

But man...those LEOS can talk!!!!! 4 and a half hours? I don;t think I got a word in edgewise.

He also told me that EVERYONE knows about me in his town down South. I find that interesting as I only met one friend and have only been down their once to see his "town".

Hey Sophie...I might be dating a Leo man soon (I am scorp)...How is the sex between a scorp girl and a leo guy? 😄

Been awhile since posting (in October)....but I wanted to reply to kafka and Kris.

Kafka...sex is not all that great, perhaps because we were married before so he doesnt try as much as he would if it was "new". Dont rely on signs, its all about communication/attraction, etc....NOT about the signs....Kris is absoluetly right on.

Virgos are suppose to be explosive in bed and the one I dated was a complete DUD.

My Ex hubby Leo has been haunting me lately. His unreliabilty has gotten on my nerves and I have no patience.

NEW YEAR...NEW BEGINNINGS....

HAPPY HOLIDAYS MY FRIENDS!!!!!

Hi Sophie68,
As a Leo (still young) I can tell you that we can indeed change, our pride makes us want to be as close to perfection as possible, we are always trying to correct our flaws (which we usually only admit to ourselves) and we learn from our mistakes and very, very rarely repeat them. When we are in love and in a relationship the other person has no doubts about that because we tend to be extremely consistent in our attitude, remember everything that is even remotely significant about the other person and shower them with all kinds of gifts (not necessarily materialistic ones) and affection. Personally I do not like talking over the phone more than a couple of minutes but I don't mind talking for hours when meeting in person. As for you Ex I can tell you one thing for sure: If he really changed over the years and his intentions with you are good then he should have strongly apologized for any mistakes he made in the past opening his heart and revealing secrets about himself as a person (without you having to ask). This would be a typical and sincere behavior so if he did not do this than he is certainly a fraud; I mean, he likes you for sure (remembering dates and keeping old stuff proves that) but he is still the same guy he was 18 years ago. As for the jealousy I must say every Leo is a little bit possessive to say the least but we usually hide it as much as possible and try to use humor or indirect approaches to reveal our discomfort so I find it strange that he called you 4 times that night you went out with a friend. 1 time is normal, 2 or 3 times could happen in extraordinary situation but anything beyond that is surely abnormal. I wish you the best and I can only advise you to be careful, if you have yourself a good, confident, open minded, well established and mature Leo (mature in his mind and ideas, not his age or personality) than you have yourself the best and most reliable human being on the face of the earth on the other hand if he is excessively insecure for whatever reason, underachiever in life and his ideas seem to carry a lot of anger then he is surely a person to avoid. Best regards from Italy.

Hi Giogio,
Thanks for the insight. But its he's a LEo, or any other signs there are things I will not tolerate.

We Re-Started seeing each other Labor Day this year...we live in 2 different states...his family still lives in my town and he frequesnts here still.

For a man who is so jealous and possessive he goes fomr calling obsessivey to not calling.

A. Tried to feel my best friend up (as a joke he says) when we were down South.
He apologized later....whatever.

B. Did not call me on my birthday (but he knows the date)) but when i told him i was hurt he sent 60 roses or something abot 2 weeks later to apologize.

c. I was going in for Major surgery and he didnt even bother to call to wish me well or call me when i got out of hospital....until a week later. Then he called every day for a week.

d. Called me 2 weeks ago and wanted me to come down south for New Years (I have a full travel scheudle in January so said if its not new years I could see him in February...he said that was "unaacceptable and he couldnt wait that long") He said he would call the next day for dates and all for me to come down. Didn't hear from him till last Wednedsay (a week later). I didn't call him back (crazy busy w/ XMAS and work/parties, guests, New York Trip, etc and BS that he waited so long really got me mad), and of course he called 3x after that w/in 24 hours.
I finally called him back and left a message 2 days later. Havnt heard form him

e. Yesterday was christmas...not one call, nothing.

If you really like someone and care about them, actions speak louder than words, period. He is unreliable...

Men....i give up...2007 is a new year....

Hi Sophie,
"Actions speak louder than words", this is especially true with Leos. The behavior you described is not good at all. This guy seems to have some issues to resolve. I really can not see myself behaving like this in any circumstances, not even with a friend (not calling when you had surgery——). He is one Leo that is unhappy with his life and with himself and he behaves so erratically because sometimes he fells the urge to show his interest for you in extreme ways but some other times his unbalanced pride makes him back off wanting you to initiate contact and make all the moves because if you don't then he will think you do not like him back. When a Leo is not consistent and is unreliable (without any evident reasons) it means you should stay away. These are the kind of guys that sometimes give a bad reputation to us Leos...
Happy 2007, I hope you find someone who deserves you.