Posted by Shul
When unevolved, Aries, Leo, Scorpio and Capricorn are definitely The Fantastic Four in this regard. On the other hand, everyone is a little bit selfish and this trait might be useful for many in order to survive or to save their identity. That's not necessarily bad if you know where and when to use it properly. In some cases, selfishness can be a great tool, unless one's real intentions have turned out to be completely pathological and twisted.
Posted by Cancerbabe
So googling Leos i seem to get a lot of hits regarding Leo's being selfish... sadly i must say that my leo is selfish too...
i find that it has more to do with Male leos rather than women...
Posted by CancerbabePosted by Shul
When unevolved, Aries, Leo, Scorpio and Capricorn are definitely The Fantastic Four in this regard. On the other hand, everyone is a little bit selfish and this trait might be useful for many in order to survive or to save their identity. That's not necessarily bad if you know where and when to use it properly. In some cases, selfishness can be a great tool, unless one's real intentions have turned out to be completely pathological and twisted.
definitely feel you shul but in terms of relationship where it there should be some reciprocity... i mean i do a lot for the relationship.. so its not even about survival... we are supposed to be a team but i cannot depend on him.click to expand
Posted by GreyRobe
Yes some are but same for every sign. Leos also come off as selfish because others can be insecure. There are selfish leos but some also can come off that way.
You can shop around and choose the best man for you. What is the problem. I heard of women who used unselfish leos and manipulated them. Leos need to protect their hearts. I perosnally believe we have te biggest heart in the zodaic and that needs protection from undesirable people.
Posted by MontgomeryPosted by Cancerbabe
So googling Leos i seem to get a lot of hits regarding Leo's being selfish... sadly i must say that my leo is selfish too...
i find that it has more to do with Male leos rather than women...
I think it may apply to Leo men with fiery moons, like Aries-- throw in a large dose of immaturity, and voila!
That has been my experience, anyway.
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Posted by AL4813
Heck no, by no means. I'm a giver, and a provider. What happens is people expect this from us 24/7 and the moment we try to have our "me" time, people start flipping out. I have never been selfish with others, even those that p!ss me off. As a leo, helping people out is one of the best feelings. I think it's how others interpret it. Example, if a Leo man isn't as romantic as his girlfriend, then she can view it as selfish. Leo's are all about the people, just that it changes when people want our personal time constantly. So in the end, I think it's just a point of view.
Posted by JBG
I don't think Leo's are selfish, I think that we're self centered, there is a huge differenced. I'd do anything for anybody...while talking about myself the whole time. I've tried to work on this trait bc people generally don't like it, but it's hard to change who you are.
Posted by MontgomeryPosted by CancerbabePosted by Shul
When unevolved, Aries, Leo, Scorpio and Capricorn are definitely The Fantastic Four in this regard. On the other hand, everyone is a little bit selfish and this trait might be useful for many in order to survive or to save their identity. That's not necessarily bad if you know where and when to use it properly. In some cases, selfishness can be a great tool, unless one's real intentions have turned out to be completely pathological and twisted.
definitely feel you shul but in terms of relationship where it there should be some reciprocity... i mean i do a lot for the relationship.. so its not even about survival... we are supposed to be a team but i cannot depend on him.
Where is your moon, CB?click to expand
Posted by Montgomery
I think it may apply to Leo men with fiery moons, like Aries-- throw in a large dose of immaturity, and voila!
That has been my experience, anyway.
Posted by xtina
No, there are selfish people in all signs. I know many times water signs believe they are the most sensitive intuitive signs of the zodiac, but there have been many times a water sign has been selfish and wronged me and have not realized it. It's my fault for not saying anything because I am very forgiving and empathetic but when the same incidents occur but the tables are turned water signs will turn around and lash at me like I'm the most selfish person in the world with no sensitivity when they have done the exact same thing with no consideration for my feelings, when really there is a communication issue on BOTH parts.
Everyone can be selfish to a degree. If you believe you are completely selfless than you are a liar. Not even Gandhi was completely selfless. I read an article that said he refused to give his wife medicine when she was sick because it was against his religion, she died, but yet when he got sick with malaria he happily took the medicine.
IME, Leo's are the most giving and forgiving people I know, even though they have a lot of pride! I've known some really selfish Scorps and Taurus with a rock sense of pride and believe they are the most flawless people in the world, and if not then they like to deflect their problems on to others. Haha I should end up with a Leo because they are the ones that seem to completely get me
Posted by GreyRobePosted by xtina
No, there are selfish people in all signs. I know many times water signs believe they are the most sensitive intuitive signs of the zodiac, but there have been many times a water sign has been selfish and wronged me and have not realized it. It's my fault for not saying anything because I am very forgiving and empathetic but when the same incidents occur but the tables are turned water signs will turn around and lash at me like I'm the most selfish person in the world with no sensitivity when they have done the exact same thing with no consideration for my feelings, when really there is a communication issue on BOTH parts.
Everyone can be selfish to a degree. If you believe you are completely selfless than you are a liar. Not even Gandhi was completely selfless. I read an article that said he refused to give his wife medicine when she was sick because it was against his religion, she died, but yet when he got sick with malaria he happily took the medicine.
IME, Leo's are the most giving and forgiving people I know, even though they have a lot of pride! I've known some really selfish Scorps and Taurus with a rock sense of pride and believe they are the most flawless people in the world, and if not then they like to deflect their problems on to others. Haha I should end up with a Leo because they are the ones that seem to completely get me
I feel your love for leo men from the screen.......
perhaps one day you will find the guy....click to expand
Posted by Cancerbabe
i feel you girl.... people always preceive themselves as saints... but in this case in my personal experience, this leo of mine is selfish. just for example, when i would go get food, i always ask what he wants, and i make sure he gets it too. whenever he would go, he would never ask and always just brings back food for himself.
that's just one example, i dont wanna get into the rest of the stuff but if that aint selfish i dont know what is lol .... or rather inconsiderate may be more accurate lol
Posted by Cancerbabe
this leo of mine is selfish. just for example, when i would go get food, i always ask what he wants, and i make sure he gets it too. whenever he would go, he would never ask and always just brings back food for himself.
Posted by CancerbabePosted by xtina
No, there are selfish people in all signs. I know many times water signs believe they are the most sensitive intuitive signs of the zodiac, but there have been many times a water sign has been selfish and wronged me and have not realized it. It's my fault for not saying anything because I am very forgiving and empathetic but when the same incidents occur but the tables are turned water signs will turn around and lash at me like I'm the most selfish person in the world with no sensitivity when they have done the exact same thing with no consideration for my feelings, when really there is a communication issue on BOTH parts.
Everyone can be selfish to a degree. If you believe you are completely selfless than you are a liar. Not even Gandhi was completely selfless. I read an article that said he refused to give his wife medicine when she was sick because it was against his religion, she died, but yet when he got sick with malaria he happily took the medicine.
IME, Leo's are the most giving and forgiving people I know, even though they have a lot of pride! I've known some really selfish Scorps and Taurus with a rock sense of pride and believe they are the most flawless people in the world, and if not then they like to deflect their problems on to others. Haha I should end up with a Leo because they are the ones that seem to completely get me
i feel you girl.... people always preceive themselves as saints... but in this case in my personal experience, this leo of mine is selfish. just for example, when i would go get food, i always ask what he wants, and i make sure he gets it too. whenever he would go, he would never ask and always just brings back food for himself.
that's just one example, i dont wanna get into the rest of the stuff but if that aint selfish i dont know what is lol .... or rather inconsiderate may be more accurate lolclick to expand
Posted by GreyRobe
i am 7000 year old wizard. i don't do relationships
Posted by Cancerbabe
Leo??s are experts??_E X P E R T S at turning tables when they??re stuck in corners! No matter how far you corner them, they??ll manage to create a strong conviction that you are a horrible creature who??s filled with crap and whose attitude is crap and whatever you do and say is crap multiplied. Don??t corner a leo??_he will corner himself and never show it to you!
He is aware of his ???Crap?? too, nonetheless, you never get to see him receding to his acknowledgment of this crappy...
Posted by Cancerbabe
... just for example, when i would go get food, i always ask what he wants, and i make sure he gets it too. whenever he would go, he would never ask and always just brings back food for himself.
that's just one example, i dont wanna get into the rest of the stuff but if that aint selfish i dont know what is lol .... or rather inconsiderate may be more accurate lol
Posted by GreyRobe
you could go for taurus guys cancerbabe =)
Posted by AesmaDaevaPosted by Cancerbabe
i feel you girl.... people always preceive themselves as saints... but in this case in my personal experience, this leo of mine is selfish. just for example, when i would go get food, i always ask what he wants, and i make sure he gets it too. whenever he would go, he would never ask and always just brings back food for himself.
that's just one example, i dont wanna get into the rest of the stuff but if that aint selfish i dont know what is lol .... or rather inconsiderate may be more accurate lol
It isn't being selfish, you're right, it's more like being inconsiderate. The issue with this stems from you not communicating your expectations. Just because you did something doesn't mean it should automatically be reciprocated.
The problem I see with water signs is, when they give/do something, it comes with expectations. You need to learn to give something FREELY. No strings attached to it.click to expand
Posted by enfant_terriblePosted by Cancerbabe
this leo of mine is selfish. just for example, when i would go get food, i always ask what he wants, and i make sure he gets it too. whenever he would go, he would never ask and always just brings back food for himself.
And now............. it's personal!
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Posted by xtinaPosted by CancerbabePosted by xtina
No, there are selfish people in all signs. I know many times water signs believe they are the most sensitive intuitive signs of the zodiac, but there have been many times a water sign has been selfish and wronged me and have not realized it. It's my fault for not saying anything because I am very forgiving and empathetic but when the same incidents occur but the tables are turned water signs will turn around and lash at me like I'm the most selfish person in the world with no sensitivity when they have done the exact same thing with no consideration for my feelings, when really there is a communication issue on BOTH parts.
Everyone can be selfish to a degree. If you believe you are completely selfless than you are a liar. Not even Gandhi was completely selfless. I read an article that said he refused to give his wife medicine when she was sick because it was against his religion, she died, but yet when he got sick with malaria he happily took the medicine.
IME, Leo's are the most giving and forgiving people I know, even though they have a lot of pride! I've known some really selfish Scorps and Taurus with a rock sense of pride and believe they are the most flawless people in the world, and if not then they like to deflect their problems on to others. Haha I should end up with a Leo because they are the ones that seem to completely get me
i feel you girl.... people always preceive themselves as saints... but in this case in my personal experience, this leo of mine is selfish. just for example, when i would go get food, i always ask what he wants, and i make sure he gets it too. whenever he would go, he would never ask and always just brings back food for himself.
that's just one example, i dont wanna get into the rest of the stuff but if that aint selfish i dont know what is lol .... or rather inconsiderate may be more accurate lol
What's his moon? And I'm sure it depends on everything else on their chart. Because I had an experience similar to that with my first Leo ex. He had a Cancer moon and a LOT of Cappy and Cancer placements. The other Leo's weren't too much like that one had a Scorp moon... he was alright. The last Leo wasclick to expand
Posted by MontgomeryPosted by Cancerbabe
... just for example, when i would go get food, i always ask what he wants, and i make sure he gets it too. whenever he would go, he would never ask and always just brings back food for himself.
that's just one example, i dont wanna get into the rest of the stuff but if that aint selfish i dont know what is lol .... or rather inconsiderate may be more accurate lol
I hate that.
#beenthere
So you have a LEO moon... what about him?
Do we know?click to expand
Posted by CancerbabePosted by MontgomeryPosted by Cancerbabe
... just for example, when i would go get food, i always ask what he wants, and i make sure he gets it too. whenever he would go, he would never ask and always just brings back food for himself.
that's just one example, i dont wanna get into the rest of the stuff but if that aint selfish i dont know what is lol .... or rather inconsiderate may be more accurate lol
I hate that.
#beenthere
So you have a LEO moon... what about him?
Do we know?
i think he's a pisces moon...
he did it again lastnight!!!!! he came home w/ chinese food and didnt even offer me any! lolclick to expand
Posted by Cancerbabe
he did it again lastnight!!!!! he came home w/ chinese food and didnt even offer me any! lol
Posted by seraph
If you don't ask the right questions, the answers you get won't be of much use and will only mislead.
You're motivated to ask your question because you see selfishness (on his part) manifesting in your relationship. So what *exactly* is going on? Tell us what he's actually doing and how that makes you feel, and whether it's "selfish" or some other thing, maybe in response to something *you* happen to be doing.
Yes, Leos can be selfish, but unless it's purely for discussion's sake, if we dont look at it within the context of *your* relationship, then you'll make assumptions based on something that might not even be happening in the first place (i.e., his alleged selfishness.)
And keep in mind that, astrologically at least, Cancer is as watery as water signs get. You're going to interpret your needs from that perspective. And what might seem perfectly normal and healthy for a Fire sign might seem threatening (emotionally and in terms of security) to you.
Notwithstanding selfishness or your own situation, when it comes to fire-water pairings (aside from whatever else is in your charts), Fire needs to provide a warm, soft place for Water to fall, and use that fixed energy to remain a *constant* source of strength and light. In turn, Water needs to embrace and accept Fire's expansive nature, and understand that remaining a passive and loving presence is just as effective and appreciated as remaining an active and loving presence. Fire needs that nurturing and affection, but will try to address your concerns by providing more light, positivity and forward movement. Fire will listen, but will pay more attention to resolution then commiseration. You might find it necessary to dwell and brood. That is fine! It can be good for the soul, and Fire needs to hold your hand through it. But at the same time, Fire will be slowly trying to lead you out of it, perhaps sooner than you'd like.
It's worth keeping these things in mind.
Posted by Cancerbabe
@ Montomery... well i did go look up his chart but some peple here are saying that that site is unreliable... soooooo.... i dont know what to do lol but according to cafeastrology he's a pisces moon lol
Posted by Cancerbabe
...but he's still very selfish lol
selfish with money, head, food, head, emotional support, head lol
Posted by Denver34
Ya Leos are horrible people, they only think of themselves and are sooo lousy in bed, they think you're supposed to service them forever, they, the great, the magnificent , they MUST be adorrrred.....
they're a fvkin nuisance...
Posted by ZelaleZPosted by auroraPosted by ZelaleZ
I try to have a nice balance between putting myself in the first place and having empathy and being generous towards others. So yes, I'm selfish but not the way 'pop culture' astrology is describing Leo's selfishness.
Let me explain it.
Being selfish is not that bad if you want to survive in this world. If you don't satisfy your own needs first, then you cannot be at the 'service' of others. The selfishness of a Leo isn't that bad after all, because Leos have an endless need to give to others at the same time.
i see you leos just the way you described it. we are all responsible only for our own needs, but be honest you guys are best at it. i mean in saving your ass. the issue can come out if your needs clash with someone close to you, and sometimes you won't even think about consequences. right now i have those issues with my leo partner. and i keep telling myself watch and learn, watch and learn...
Absolutely. I'm selfish because I love satisfying my own needs first. But I believe in Karma too. Actually, I fear Karma. So I try to treat people the same way as I myself want to be treated.
My needs may clash with others but there are ways to compromise and make win-win situations. I believe in that too.click to expand
Posted by auroraPosted by ZelaleZ
I try to have a nice balance between putting myself in the first place and having empathy and being generous towards others. So yes, I'm selfish but not the way 'pop culture' astrology is describing Leo's selfishness.
Let me explain it.
Being selfish is not that bad if you want to survive in this world. If you don't satisfy your own needs first, then you cannot be at the 'service' of others. The selfishness of a Leo isn't that bad after all, because Leos have an endless need to give to others at the same time.
i see you leos just the way you described it. we are all responsible only for our own needs, but be honest you guys are best at it. i mean in saving your ass. the issue can come out if your needs clash with someone close to you, and sometimes you won't even think about consequences. right now i have those issues with my leo partner. and i keep telling myself watch and learn, watch and learn...
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Posted by lisabethur8Posted by ZelaleZPosted by auroraPosted by ZelaleZ
I try to have a nice balance between putting myself in the first place and having empathy and being generous towards others. So yes, I'm selfish but not the way 'pop culture' astrology is describing Leo's selfishness.
Let me explain it.
Being selfish is not that bad if you want to survive in this world. If you don't satisfy your own needs first, then you cannot be at the 'service' of others. The selfishness of a Leo isn't that bad after all, because Leos have an endless need to give to others at the same time.
i see you leos just the way you described it. we are all responsible only for our own needs, but be honest you guys are best at it. i mean in saving your ass. the issue can come out if your needs clash with someone close to you, and sometimes you won't even think about consequences. right now i have those issues with my leo partner. and i keep telling myself watch and learn, watch and learn...
Absolutely. I'm selfish because I love satisfying my own needs first. But I believe in Karma too. Actually, I fear Karma. So I try to treat people the same way as I myself want to be treated.
My needs may clash with others but there are ways to compromise and make win-win situations. I believe in that too.
just be a good person and dont harm other people. be considerate of others. You dont need to "think" of what karma is gonna do to you, but that just being a considerate person, of other's feelings is nice. However, if they slap you first, it's hard not to slap back.
that's when the fight begins. My mother was telling me today how when she was young, girl bullies used to pick on her, but then she also made friends with other bullies. And that no matter how much time has passed, or generations.....there will always be bullies in life. And there will always be girls who are softer and kinder.click to expand
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