SOOO Confused by my ex or whatever LEO Man

Our story is sooooo long I'm not even sure where to begin. I'll try to keep it short but if more detail is require, simply ask as you shall receive.

A little back story: I left my husband shortly before this and he was ending his relationship when all this happened.

I'll start by saying that my Leo & I have known who each other are for over 12 years. Just never really knew each other until recently I went to work for his company. At first it was professional. but shortly after, he admitted misjudging me and began to text me outside of work and on a personal level. Eventually we started staying long after work to just talk. The intellectual connection we have is INSANE. Eventually he came right out and admitted his interest in me. WE talked a lot about keeping things on slow motion as we were both transitioning out of previous relationships however it seemed no matter how hard we tried, we couldn't stay away from each other. We couldn't help but to talk and keep in contact. We would go maybe a day where we would only text about 5 times but then the next day it would double and so on until we were literally talking from sun up to sun down. He eventually said screw it, we know how we feel about each other, who cares what other people think, let's be together. He asked me on a date. It was wonderful. The tension between us was palpable. Neither of us as he claimed to feel the same have ever experienced a connection like this before. We have literally almost everything in common. Would laugh non stop. Our energy just flowed. We fed off of each other and would even finish each others sentences. Or say what the other was thinking. We could even communicate without speaking when we were together. He is my soul mate. I am certain of it. Here's where it get's complicated. After our first date, we had a second, then he invited my daughter and I to the pool with him and his son, and I believe to meet some of his friends. We had a miscommunication and I misunderstood what he meant via text and didn't go. I sincerely apologized however I think his ego was hurt and he immediately pulled back and said he wanted to slow things down. I naturally guarded myself but then within a week he was full force again. He said he didn't want to lose me and knew he could live a long happy life with me. Told me he loves me, I reciprocated because I do. I know it sounds crazy but it's something from a fairy tale and I don't believe it myself most days.

........We communicated so well and every aspect of our connection was so intense and perfect. Emotionally, intellectually, physically, our likes & dislikes, our beliefs and morals. When I say every I mean EVERY aspect. But yeah when we came back together I was right there with him. Like I said, even when we tried, we could not keep away from each other or take anything slow. When we are together even in public, it's like no one or anything else exists, there's just us. It's like this magnet between us that naturally pulls us together. Anyways, after about another couple of weeks, again he pulled back and then ended things. Said if he was making a mistake that he hoped one day he could crawl back to me. But he was confused. I assumed it was to do with his ex and her using his son against him as I know how much he means to him. He wants family but had always said he knew it would never work with her. He didn't have that kind of connection with her. He was always frustrated by her. And no offense but he finds her dumb, (he said anyways). He tried not to talk to me but that didn't happen and again one text turned to two until we were talking everyday and he would make little excuses to see me. No physical contact but he would still compliment me and tell me how beautiful I am. Still telling me he hoped he wasn't making a huge mistake as he knew he could be happy with me. Well then he said he had to speak to me face to face. Told me he and the ex were giving it another try (for the sake of the family) and again he hoped he wasn't making a mistake. He says he's not allowed to talk to me anymore. Apologized and said he takes the blame for it all. It wasn't my fault. After essentially breaking up with me again as he was leaving he hugs me for like 15mins then we end up sharing a loving passionate kiss where he forces himself to leave and I catch him crying as he leaves. Well he ends up calling the next day saying there's no way in hell he can not talk to me. Our connection is too great and he can't live the rest of his life without me. He doesn't care if the "ex" or not ex gets mad. So I say well that should tell you something about your relationship with her then. He even said I needed to watch the show "How I met your mother", synopsis is two friends who are attracted to each other (soul mates essentially) who keep not being together for stupid reasons and are with other people but eventually 20 years later they get together and live

continued again........happy of course. He said it reminds him about us. I'm not waiting 20 years for something I know is right in front of me. But is scared, which I totally called him on and he admitted that I was right, he is. But then I don't hear from him for about 4 days. Then he e-mails me. I tell him if we are to be friends it should not be in secret. I am worth more then that. I am a GREAT woman and deserve respect etc. And basically tell him I don't know what he wants from me as he knows how I feel and he's with her. He says he agrees about not hiding our friendship or whatever and the next time we talk he'll be calling or on my front door step to talk face to face. Says he feels like he made the wrong decision in going back to her and dumping me. Says he can't breath another breath knowing I'm not his. Apologized for all the butter in his words that he put me through, that he knows you go through weird things with the one you love but that it was retarded. Said that's one thing that makes me stand out above all is that he wouldn't change one thing about me. And he can't live his life without me in it or without my wisdom and humour. He feels there's so much he can learn from me. Wouldn't want me to feel like if he and the ex break up and he comes back that I'd be second choice because I know how he feels about me and that wouldn't be the case. Scared that I wouldn't take him back essentially or that it couldn't be what it should have been because he mucked it up. But then said if I wanted to discuss it further that we should do it in person and to let him know what I thought. I kept it short and just said know nothing is irreparable and yes give me a call and we can get together to talk. Didn't hear from him for about 4 days so I text just asking if he got my e-mail. he said yes and thanks for checking in. Just waiting for a good time (whatever that means). And that he really wants to talk to me about everything face to face. Not gonna lie that he really wants to talk to me and is pretty much looking for any excuse to see me right now. I said I felt the same. That was 7 days ago now. I did send him a quick text just saying I hoped he had a good weekend as it was easter along with a funny joke but he never responded. Sorry that was so long but believe it or not that's the short version lol!

So I guess my question is, will I hear from him again? Should I wait or was he just saying what he thought I wanted to hear? L

........ Lying basically? Will I just not hear from him now until he's had some space (which we've never had so I'm really not used to it, and it hurts. Feels like someone has cut off one of my limbs.) I've never experienced this feeling before. Not even for my ex hubby of 10 years. Do I just have to wait until he's ready and thought it all through?

Because to me if you want to talk to someone you call like you said you would and arrange to do it. You don't leave them hanging and disappear. What does the right time mean? Especially when he's with his ex but says he feels like it's the wrong decision. Then get on it.

What are the leo men's views on this? What is going on with my leo man's mixed messages? What's really going on here?

Thanks!

Soo ... he's still married.

Posted by feby
He's trying to keep you smiling and not in crazy mode but he's clearly married and with his wife.

So risky dating someone who hasn't

finalized... never know which way

it could go.


Sorry, OP 😢

He shouldn't have gotten involved, if he

wasn't certain of his intent.

Or hers, since they have a child.

They aren't legally married.

She had moved out already as well and still is living in her separate place

I know, partial sentences lol! But also, I don't do crazy mode lol! Honestly. And it's one of the things he said he loves about me. I'm very much in control of my emotions. I'm a very strong independent women.

Another Gem left by a Leo...😄! ( I know quite a few in real life). Ah what, I'm sure you'll manage.

Just some observations. I'm sure you know them, but not if you considered them.

1. What people like (or claim to like) is not necessarily what they need (thinking of "strong, independent woman".....that's good professionally, not necessarily for romance).
2. Enjoying a date is highly subjective. Even if one thinks it went very well, the other one may find it lacking.
3. "Amazing conversation/ connection" often means that one is happy to have had someone listening ad nauseam to personal happenings/views/issues.

You don't know this man. Went on a few dates and got confused by the hype, novelty and promise. He's probably still into the mother of his child and trying to get her back.

undine 99.999999% right

anyways...

lol the connection between leo and gemini is amazinggggg!!! i know when i was reading this i could feel the connection there! the thing is leo REALLY likes u alot. He decided to make things work with the ex because he felt like he needed to for the sake of the child (honestly what man wouldn't want to?). He neeeds to give it another chance before he moves on completely. But by the looks of it he is mentally already gone. Yes you will hear from him again. He will realize he made a veryyyyyyyy stupid choice sooner than later. I would say dont give it alot of thought right now because i am a leo and i couldn't go long without talking to my gem either so i know he will reach out to you in a few days(:

Posted by Undine
Another Gem left by a Leo...😄! ( I know quite a few in real life). Ah what, I'm sure you'll manage.

Just some observations. I'm sure you know them, but not if you considered them.

1. What people like (or claim to like) is not necessarily what they need (thinking of "strong, independent woman".....that's good professionally, not necessarily for romance).
2. Enjoying a date is highly subjective. Even if one thinks it went very well, the other one may find it lacking.
3. "Amazing conversation/ connection" often means that one is happy to have had someone listening ad nauseam to personal happenings/views/issues.

You don't know this man. Went on a few dates and got confused by the hype, novelty and promise. He's probably still into the mother of his child and trying to get her back.

why does that make u happy— you didnt even read her story. Your comments are pointless lol you hate on every leo because your husband used to be married to one before he got dumped. Move along.

Posted by Undine
Another Gem left by a Leo...😄! ( I know quite a few in real life). Ah what, I'm sure you'll manage.

Just some observations. I'm sure you know them, but not if you considered them.

1. What people like (or claim to like) is not necessarily what they need (thinking of "strong, independent woman".....that's good professionally, not necessarily for romance).
2. Enjoying a date is highly subjective. Even if one thinks it went very well, the other one may find it lacking.
3. "Amazing conversation/ connection" often means that one is happy to have had someone listening ad nauseam to personal happenings/views/issues.

You don't know this man. Went on a few dates and got confused by the hype, novelty and promise. He's probably still into the mother of his child and trying to get her back.

why does that make u happy— you didnt even read her story. Your comments are pointless lol you hate on every leo because your husband used to be married to one before he got dumped. Move along.

@ the 21

Lol, the immaturity!

Surely "hating" a sign because one of them did you a favour.... is something that you kids have been practicing in the school yard...

now now beautiful ladies.. lets keep the peace

Posted by Undine
@ the 21

Lol, the immaturity!

Surely "hating" a sign because one of them did you a favour.... is something that you kids have been practicing in the school yard...

I'm not immature nor do I play in the "school yard" lol. I'm mature enough to know that you are just old and bitter that your husbands ex wife is a leo. I always see you throw low blows in the leo section. If you hate us so much why do I see you here a lot?
Also you said "another gem left By leo...😄" that makes you happy? If you aren't here to help why are u here? Go away with your negative attitude

With all due respect Undine you clearly didn't understand what I was saying. We didn't just go out on a few "nice dates". I know this man probably better than he knows himself and he is the same with me. I know his insides. And strong independent means that I'm not reliant on a man. I love my man and he is my partner not my bread winner. I stand beside my man, uplift him, support him and fight with him. I don't take from him and sit on my butt while he does all the work. That's what I mean. I hold my own. I want my man, I don't need him. And I appreciate him and show it. Big difference. Perhaps you've never had a true honest connection like that with someone before. But I digress as it's neither here nor there. And I appreciate your input.

I did step aside and let him know I wasn't upset with him as I understood his reasoning. He said he doesn't think it will work and his guard will be up but had to try again for his son' sake. Which I get as I'm a mom as well. When he contacted me one of the last times I said I didn't know what he wanted from me as he was with her but not as blunt and rude as that sounds. We speak very loving and respectfully to each other. But I was clear & honest. But again he kept contacting me and saying he loves me and when he's with her he feels like he's made the wrong decision. And wants to talk to me face to face. When the time is right. And so that's why I'm confused.

What could he possibly have to say and what does the "right time" mean?

To 21: I was too gentle to call it immaturity. More like high degree insecurity with a a good portion of stupidity.

To the OP: Did you get know him as your LOVER for longer than a few dates? Knowing him as business-related acquaintance is as deep as a layer of makeup!

Posted by Undine
To 21: I was too gentle to call it immaturity. More like high degree insecurity with a a good portion of stupidity.

To the OP: Did you get know him as your LOVER for longer than a few dates? Knowing him as business-related acquaintance is as deep as a layer of makeup!

perhaps you know deep deeeeep down that your husband settled with you and because of that you hate on every leo. your insecurities show big time. Ah what, you'll manage. Throwing sunshine your way! 😄

We've known each other for over 12 years as I said (not in the business sense but as friends). I live in a smaller town and he's a friend of mines older brother. I've known him since high school and probably actually met him as a child as my father sold his family their house when they moved here when he was 8. You are looking at our situation all wrong and being highly judgemental, presuming and focusing on that. We were friends before he was my boss. And even the boss status disappeared after about 2 weeks as it was too strange. We talked non stop as friends for at least a month all day, every day, non stop from sun up to sun down before we even went on our first date. Getting to know each other. Asking every possible question you can think of to get to really know each other. Questions most people probably don't have answered about their spouses. We had NO and I mean ZERO physical contact as friends. I said this in my original post. We discussed our views on life, love, family, friends, passions, goals, childhood, fears, bucket lists, and the list goes on. Like I said, I KNOW who he is as a person, as a man. I'm not that kind of girl. I'm classier than that. We did move way too fast given we had just left our significant others however as I said, no matter how much we tried to not talk we just couldn't do it. And I agree with the other poster, if you're just here to be argumentative then why bother. You aren't offering anything productive or insightful. It seems to me like you just like drama and want to be confrontational and perhaps thrive on it. You definitely have negative energy honey. Just sayin'!

well a "talk" with us would be talking. There would be no physical interaction. Neither of us are cheaters. As long as he's with her or if I were with someone there would be no sex. We have not been intimate since we broke up. As I stated earlier. I'm classy, not trashy. I only have sex with men that I'm in a relationship with as I connect with the person I'm intimate with. So talk literally means talk.

And because we are friends. We were friends before we got together and neither of us feel like it's right not to be in each others lives. The connection we have is unexplainable obviously. And because hiding it is dishonest, again which neither of us believe in. Are you not a LEO? Leo's are honest. And I am a very honest person myself.

I'd like some LEO's opinions please. And I realize it's exhaustingly long but please read all of my story. Thanks!

i messaged you 😄