Anna Nicole Smith

She died. So sad that she just had a baby, too...and her son died.

Am just watching the news here too...

Why do you care?

She was a pretty terrible person who embodied the worst of our collective conciousness.

So sad... I know it was hard getting over losing her son. I bet she was depressed.

The whole situation is so very tragic 😢

Wow I can't believe the way some of you think. A life is gone-we only get one life. No matter what someone gave or didn't give to society, it doesn't discount her life to the ones who know her, the ones you loved her for who she was. She chose to live her life the way she did, but we aren't in any position to judge her.

I posted this actually out of shock and sadness. She just lost her son, she has a newborn baby, she is/was being sued by 3 entities. So much took a toll on her.

Anyway, sorry for posting the topic.

Good for others that she died. Always wondered why people shoot nice fellas like kennedy and john lennon and allow these kind of ones to live in america.

OK... Very sad... She is a human being, however she was... People, just think if it was a family member of yours and if others didn't give a care...

Shocking...

i chose to post it here.

Please, my dad died in August and I didn't mourn that either.

People need perspective. Tragedy happens every day. Good people die everyday. Celebrity worship angers me to the very core. Mourn for those worthy. Mourn for the true tragedies in life.

LS, hate to be the one to say this, I think that is very insensitive. What kind of relationship did you and your dad have.

QUOTE: Mourn for those worthy. Mourn for the true tragedies in life.

And who are you, little sparrow to decide whether one was worthy or not? Your "true tragedy" may not be my "true tragedy".

"I'd be so lost and confused. I wouldn't know what to do without her. She is the one person I feel like I need."

Now imagine someone in Anna Nicole's life thinking these exact same words. 😢

Isnt it a pure waste of time typing 3 pages about x playmate of the year— Dumb people lead a miserable life. You cannot blame anyone else for their life. The more greedy and hungry one gets, the more pathetic they turn out to be.

like LS mentioned, there are far more better things to wonder about than wasting our precious life on worrying about some losers.

Infact I have met one of the most sensible people here in DXP compared to any other forum.

she sees other's deaths as insignificant because she hasn't dealt with her own father's death yet.

lol!

If you met me, you would find this funny.

I wasn't asking for sympathy at all. I won't be upset when my brother dies either. I don't think it is insensitive at all. I loved my dad, but it wasn't a big deal.

I say you should mourn life not death. Mourn the dumbing down of society. Mourn the illusions of disparity. Mourn that we live in a world ripe with abundance but accept the bones of lack. Mourn a society that puts the individual above the collective.

I don't see death as a terrible thing. I see a wasted life as a terrible thing.

When Noam Chomsky dies there should be a public outcry, but alas it is when Paris Hilton dies we will see real concern.

I am saying society as a whole should reexamine their values and question what we are doing.

Of course, I would like to believe that I believe the individual is unimportant. I have always felt this way. Respect the work not the artist.

I find living in a society where people watch *reality* on television instead of going out and embracing life, is such an odd commentary on society. It is like we all live in a bad mutated futuristic world where we are lulled to sleep by the stupid box so we can become coggs in the corporate wheel. It is almost Matrix like if you think about it.

This will upset everyone BUT I don't believe every life is worth mourning, especially mass mourning, especially this person. I don't expect a mass outpouring for myself either. I don't believe we are all special. I believe the belief that we are all special problematic.

I don't expect ANYONE to agree with this.

It is just stuff to think about.

you're certainly entitled to your opinions.

my views and opinions don't rotate around a notion that any particular person's life was insignificant just because they didn't make a "Good" name for themselves.

i celebrate my life; i don't mourn it....

i feel for the infant daughter of hers. instead of knowing her mother first-hand, she will now be brainwashed by articles and media exploiting her. sure, it was the life style that she chose, but that doesn't devalue her life on this Earth. the only way this little girl will know her mother is by what was written about her. we all have good sides and bad sides. we don't know how Anna would have raised her daughter and now neither will her daughter. 😢

thats some sensible stuff LS. but there is no point telling anyone. most are purely driven by society and media. They waste their life crying and worrying about people whom they dont know.

When Saddam was executed, the communist govt in my home state called for a days strike. Infact half of our population dont know saddam beyond his name and nationality. Quite funny world. wasting a precious life for nothing.

* my views and opinions don't rotate around a notion that any particular person's life was insignificant just because they didn't make a "Good" name for themselves.

Then live by this. When a child molester dies you should value his life and weep just the same as when this person dies.

I believe we are all saint and sinner. I believe we all have a dark side but shouldn't the value of a specific human life depends upon what you do with what you've been given?

As my best friend said, "With all of her family's money, power, and influence, think of all the good that Paris Hilton *could* be doing in the world, that she just doesn't fucking bother to do because she's too busy flashing her nasty sn**ch all over Manhattan... "

To much has been given, much is expected.

What I am saying HP is mourn the values of our society because they are pitiable.

😛

I do believe in what I am saying. I think this is a truly important discussion and these questions need to be raised.

What is the sanctity of life? Is all life valuable?

***I do believe in what I am saying.

Belief is an irrational word. If you tend to say you believe, it still stays a bit short of being a naked truth.

You are right on whatever u said LS. why doubt urself—

Ehhh .... What can I say?

I had a very don't drink the opium of the masses type of week. lol!

Another day I may have made another argument like she made her way in society the best way she could, on the shoulder's of our cultural values, but emotional pleas and emotional arguments generally don't hold weight with me. (Even had I made that argument I still would hold true to the base ideas that we should hold the value of any specific life dependent on what you do with it.)

to the betterment of all not just the betterment of self

well...i feel bad for the little baby, and death is a sad thing but when its your time, its your time.

Whatever happened to her life is her fault, we are always responsible for our actions.

Who are you not too judge and hold me accountable for my part in society?

My whole point is the individual does not matter. Respect the work not the individual.

If they were to die on the same day, I would hope we would weep more for one of the great free thinkers of our time, but we all know who would win that contest.

The media has become impotent and we are fed a diet of celebrity "news". We happily chew on the crumbs thrown to passify us but it is all just opium in disguise.

crumbs meaning these illusions that anyone can achieve obscene amounts of wealth, power, and status.

we are fed this steady stream of "celebrity" gossip because it keeps people hopeful that one day they can achieve this. It is pretty much bullshit. It stops people from thinking and truly achieving great things. It is more comfortable to watch other people (on television) engage with life than go out and do so ourselves. We are locked in by the power of discomfort. Discomfort keeps us from change.

(Anyway, these are all just random thoughts which, hopefully, will inspire your own random thoughts which will, hopefully, inspire other people's random thoughts. Random thinking will eventually lead to something great. 😉 )

ummm ... not sure why you think me knowing them or not knowing them matters.

The individual does not matter.
The work matters.

Of course you can! That is the whole point.

The individual matters only as a tool of expression for our mass conciousness. We are all one. There is no seperateness of self from any other self. It is merely an illusion. We, as an individual, are not special or important. We can and will be replaced.

The moment that we stop seeing each other as different from ourselves things will change. (I struggle with this as well.)

instead of for their lost contribution - this was what I was implying all along.

but even there loss contribution will be replaced eventually by someone else.

On judgment

I also think the "who are you to judge" argument an odd one. We all judge each other all the time.

By saying who are you to judge, what we are really saying who are you to judge the individual's desire to live their life how they choose? What we are really saying is who are you to judge the individuals desire to stab someone thrity times? It is parallel logic yet in this parallel logic conflict on who we are exists.

The real question is why does society place the individual's need above the societal needs? Is this smart?
None of us are really individuals anyway so it is kind of a moot point but fun to play with.

Well, I am not a Feudist! lol!

I am pretty anti-Freud and anti-Bernays. In fact, I am rallying against "the manufacturing of consent" mindset. There was a fascinating documentary called the Century of Self done by the BBC. (I think you can get a feed on google videos. Not sure.)

If you think we are individuals, start looking around. I walked past a Billy Talent concert line-up a few days ago. Everyone was the same height! I am not kidding. It was crazy. They all looked alike. I commented to my roommate never has their ever been such a homogenous group of non-conformists.

People are pack animals.

I am not sure if Billy Talent is Canadian or not. You could probably google the band if you don't know who I mean.

People are pack animals. People seek their own.

I think collective conciousness is a Jungian term but am not sure.

I am very blessed that I am meeting some of the most brillant minds, writers, artists, and film makers of our time. Talking to them over hot chocolate can be very enlightening. 🙂

****"We are locked in by the power of discomfort. Discomfort keeps us from change."

Also its quite heartbreaking to watch more and more people getting addicted to these celebrity crap and living in a dreamworld. All the reality shows in tv and stuffs. People dying to have their pic printed in a magazine or shown in TV. Do they ever wonder what they gain?? 😢