Do Libras love Abuse??

This topic was created in the Libra forum by BlueSabbath on Friday, December 11, 2015 and has 27 replies.
Libras aren't all about peace and balance take a look at them... a good chunk would rather stay in chaotic dramatic relationships as well as abusive rather than normal ones. And when family and friends confront them about it (they hate arguments) they will quickly defend their SO and continue to have low self esteem just to keep the peace. They hardly stand up for themselves.

"Bob only beats me when he drinks but that's only during the holidays, the rest of the year he's a perfect gentleman and a good father to our kids."
Or....
"Jane isn't controlling, she makes more money than I do and I actually enjoy being a stay at home dad, no it's not belittling when she tells people every chance she gets that I'm unemployed. "

Of course other people do it too but Libras oh Libras have the best excuses for staying. (I think they secretly crave disorder and chaos.) Ask around, I bet every Libra you know has been in a controlling, dysfunctional or abusive relationship at least once in their life. Those who left, congrats. Those who stay I'm truly sad for.
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Posted by blackphase
He also has no problem defending himself. He takes every little thing as a personal attack and bites your head off pretty much every time ya open your mouth.

Do you guys have Mercury square Mars in synastry?
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I would have to agree with some of what was said... I know a lot of libras that have been through abusive type relationships.

That doesn't mean they are the only ones, though.
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Posted by ElTigre24
Because if you are in a position to help someone then help them or stay out of their personal business. But, you don't seem to have a solution anyway.

I'm simply noticing a pattern
Anyone in an abusive relationship will defend themselves and usually won't accept help from the outside. My opinion is Libras do this even more.
Sometimes it doesn't have to be extreme but some gravitate towards controlling partners. Notice the some, obviously not all but enough that it warrants a concern. The peacekeepers of the zodiac... but what about maintaining peace in their own lives?
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I'm not offering anyone help. I mentioned about not accepting it when it comes forth. And it is my opinion turned into a question open to be confirmed or dismissed. You all take things too seriously. I thought Libras love to debate their opinions? Big Grin
People who stay in abusive relationships and defend their abuser not only have no self love for themselves and accept their abuse and welcome more of it until they make change. Okay, love is a bit much to say I'll admit that.
In general though this is about Libras and their gravitation to dramatic relationships which even if it's destructive they will defend More than other signs in similar situations. Once again, my opinion which you are free to break down as this is the point of a debate. This isn't an argument unless you see it as one, no?
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Posted by blackphase
the other way**

Interesting...I saw what you posted earlier also. Libras make great lawyers they say for their art of defending...usually it's for the good. Sometimes its for stuff against them and I wonder why?
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Posted by ElTigre24
Posted by BlueSabbath
I'm not offering anyone help. I mentioned about not accepting it when it comes forth. And it is my opinion turned into a question open to be confirmed or dismissed. You all take things too seriously. I thought Libras love to debate their opinions? Big Grin
People who stay in abusive relationships and defend their abuser not only have no self love for themselves and accept their abuse and welcome more of it until they make change. Okay, love is a bit much to say I'll admit that.
In general though this is about Libras and their gravitation to dramatic relationships which even if it's destructive they will defend More than other signs in similar situations. Once again, my opinion which you are free to break down as this is the point of a debate. This isn't an argument unless you see it as one, no?

No one wants to debate you when you're already wrong. That's your issue. This issue isn't debatable. You aren't asking anyone how to go about changing or helping the situation. My question is, why does it matter? It's fine you've read your textbook libra descriptions, but don't expect me to agree it's all true.
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I don't expect it all to be true. I'm open to be proven wrong and to be informed that this is just the behavior from the Libras I personally know and not the majority of Libras.
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Posted by LuckyLibra979
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Posted by ElTigre24
Posted by BlueSabbath
I'm not offering anyone help. I mentioned about not accepting it when it comes forth. And it is my opinion turned into a question open to be confirmed or dismissed. You all take things too seriously. I thought Libras love to debate their opinions? Big Grin
People who stay in abusive relationships and defend their abuser not only have no self love for themselves and accept their abuse and welcome more of it until they make change. Okay, love is a bit much to say I'll admit that.
In general though this is about Libras and their gravitation to dramatic relationships which even if it's destructive they will defend More than other signs in similar situations. Once again, my opinion which you are free to break down as this is the point of a debate. This isn't an argument unless you see it as one, no?

No one wants to debate you when you're already wrong. That's your issue. This issue isn't debatable. You aren't asking anyone how to go about changing or helping the situation. My question is, why does it matter? It's fine you've read your textbook libra descriptions, but don't expect me to agree it's all true.

I don't expect it all to be true. I'm open to be proven wrong and to be informed that this is just the behavior from the Libras I personally know and not the majority of Libras.

Well its just behaviors from Libras you know so there u have it
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Fair enough
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Posted by blackphase
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Posted by blackphase
the other way**

Interesting...I saw what you posted earlier also. Libras make great lawyers they say for their art of defending...usually it's for the good. Sometimes its for stuff against them and I wonder why?

Well most people become defensive if they feel they are being attacked or accused of something, that is quite normal..
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I guess so.
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Posted by blackphase
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Posted by AriesIntrovert16
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He also has no problem defending himself. He takes every little thing as a personal attack and bites your head off pretty much every time ya open your mouth.

Do you guys have Mercury square Mars in synastry?

I honestly don't know :/

He has Mercury in Virgo, Mine is in Gemini 7th House..
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Sign-wise, your mercuries square each other. What are your Mars signs?
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Depends on the person I guess. I'm not going to say that I like abuse. Lol In my case even when things get bad I can always see the person I fell in love with. For me its being guilty of having hope. I can't deny there is a temper associated with libras, but its never towards my loved ones.
. My Aries friend told me that my last relationship was very abusive mentally. I'm still in love with the girl so its probably why I don't see it yet lol
. Maybe we love too hard, and it comes off as lovers of abuse?

. As for libras being very abusive, I don't think that trait is exclusive to one sign.
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For all the people who are in abusive relationships, I hope that you find strength to get out of it. Nobody deserves to feel as if they are worthless or to be beaten because their partner can't cope with there issues. Abuse is a very serious problem, especially where lines of abuse and love are skewed by popular culture.
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I'm a Scorpio who stayed in a psychologically and emotionally abusive relationship for three years.

Venus is one of my ruling planets in my chart. I am a Libra ascendant, but my ascendant is conjunct Venus, venus is conjunct Jupiter, Venus is conjunct Mercury.

I live for love and believe in love. there is the belief that things "will get better" to the point of delusion. I learned my lesson. I am Scorpio dominant: sun, Mercury, Venus and Pluto. granted I act nothing like a Scorpio so I guess take that with a grain of salt. air is my second dominant element. Aquarius is my second dominant sign.

one of my Libra best friends (cap moon) wouldn't take shit from anyone. of course she wanted to be loved, but she axed the guy who tried to control her and didn't look back.

not just a Libra thing. it is probably moreso a Venus strength thing. "blinded by love"
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Posted by LuckyLibra979
So are u asking us do we like it or are u telling us that we do cuz it sounds like your pretty dead set sure and 100% confident that this is a Libra thing.

Since you're so knowledgeable about my sign I have a few questions for u if u don't mind

@LuckyLibra979, This conversation/thread has nothing to do with knowledge, but sheer ignorance. Angry, yeah maybe...I can be provoked to anger, but hell, anyone can be provoked to anger even the most coolest calmest person on the planet if pushed hard enough, but abusing someone or allowing myself to be abused is just sheer stupidity. You have to be a special kinda stupid to believe that foolery. What kills me is that a person may know one or two people of a specific sign that exhibits that kinda behavior, then just assumed the whole entire sign of a group of people displays the same behaviors. How ignorant is that! Trust me...if my husband of 28 years ever put his hands on me, I wouldn't be on this site to talk about it unless I was doing it from prison. For anyone... woman or man that allows someone to abuse them or abuses other folks, GET SOME HELP, and like one of the other posters said, if you don't have anything positive to say about someone in a situation like that, then keep your damn mouth shut! GTFOH...JSMH
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Of course...LOL, but no, I was saying the person who started the threat was acting like someone stuck on stupid. How do you just make a blank statement like "Do Libra's Love Abuse"?...Really? That's like asking all crack addicts if they love crack and expecting them to say yes, when they know it's not. Most people that are abused usually keep a secret anyway, which is really sad, so to ask a question like that is just senseless to me. Just poor taste of words.
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Posted by Libralula
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I'm a Scorpio who stayed in a psychologically and emotionally abusive relationship for three years.

Venus is one of my ruling planets in my chart. I am a Libra ascendant, but my ascendant is conjunct Venus, venus is conjunct Jupiter, Venus is conjunct Mercury.

I live for love and believe in love. there is the belief that things "will get better" to the point of delusion. I learned my lesson. I am Scorpio dominant: sun, Mercury, Venus and Pluto. granted I act nothing like a Scorpio so I guess take that with a grain of salt. air is my second dominant element. Aquarius is my second dominant sign.

one of my Libra best friends (cap moon) wouldn't take shit from anyone. of course she wanted to be loved, but she axed the guy who tried to control her and didn't look back.

not just a Libra thing. it is probably moreso a Venus strength thing. "blinded by love"

It's probably our Scorpio energy lol I have mercury venus in Scorpio too.. I was in a abusive relationship I just kept thinking things would get better and the sweet person in the beginning would return but luckily I got enough sense to leave him.
I won't allow that anymore
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I have Scorpio in Venus and mercury. That have anything to do with my views on the subject?
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A lot of libras in a nutshell-

Insecure.
Vain
Shallow
Love the idea of love
Will shirvel up and die if they aren't in a relationship
Hate conflict
Hate rocking the boat if they can help it


How many times have we heard of Libras waiting around in relationships until a new option comes around?
Or that they didn't speak up because of fear of conflict/rocking the boat?
Or being passive as fuck in order to avoid conflict?

You combine all these issues into a situation where there's abuse and it's really no shocker why some stick around in stupid situations. Insecure people do stupid, STUPID things. I know of a Libra who got all caught up with some terror of a chick that we all knew was a bad idea, but he insisted. He just HAD to save her!! (insecurity). Also, they fucked like rabbits (vain/shallow), and nevermind he's always on the look out for a chick, so the fact he found one to make him feel like a big ol' man because she needed rescuing, YEAH BUDDY (has to be in a relationship).

Needless to say, it was a really, really bad situatoin that ended with cheating and stds.

Another one I know of also started off badly with a chick. Knocked her up on the second date, moved her in a week later. Despite all the red flags along the way, he decides he's going to marry her. Ends up being dysfunctional forever and I think they finally got divorced.

A female Libra that I know also openly admitted that she was whatever about her fiancé, yet she still settled/married with him because she didn't think she could do better than him (insecurity).

Of course, other placements have a lot to do with some of this shit too, and I'm not sure who had what placements where. The latter seemed to thrive off of drama, so I'm thinking he had some fixed influence. The other example I KNOW had fixed influence and he also seems to be attracted to trainwrecks. The other contributing thing could be that a lot of Libras live with their heads in the clouds when it comes to romance and the like. They are so detached from reality about it. This is why you see so many jumping in really fast in the beginning, sweeping the other person off their feet, only to turn right around and run because shit just got real.

I think you'll see this crap with anyone who has low self esteem or is insecure like no other, tbh. You just notice it with Libras a lot because it's one of the several contributing traits that they're notorious for.
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Posted by LuckyLibra979
The OP just making up some shit he probably found on Google.

Are you guilty of the aforementioned behaviors?
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Some can be abusive and some do stay in sticky crazy situations not all but a few do so i agree
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Posted by heartlocket
I would have to agree with some of what was said... I know a lot of libras that have been through abusive type relationships.

That doesn't mean they are the only ones, though.

I knew a lot of Scorpios who were in and remained in abusive relationships. I also know a lot of Scorpio dominated females who like to throw digs at Libras every chance they get. In my experience Libras are not that concerned about Scorpios; at least not in the forums where I am a member. Libras seems to respond with undisturbed ambivalence toward the Scorpios digs, or dislikes. I am not angry with the OP either, because this is your experience. You attract who you are in your life, and in your life you have a preponderance of weak people who happen to be Libras who remain in dysfunctional relationships. And that is your experience. I don't attract people in my life who would tolerate abusive relationships, I did, but as I have grown I attract people on a higher plane. Perhaps one day you will too. smile

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Posted by Libralula
I did
Sad

Unfortunately when I realized nothing would change a year had already gone by. I am guilty of loving hard and its hard to break it easily. But that's probably a personal thing

Aw sweetheart, don't feel bad this post could go in any zodiac heading and apply to many different women. smile
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Posted by LuckyLibra979
The OP just making up some shit he probably found on Google.

Are you guilty of the aforementioned behaviors?


Do u suspect me of said behavior?
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I ask because you always take immediate offense to these things.

The fact that you can't even answer the question directly says a lot about you, tbh.
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Posted by blackphase
Posted by BlueSabbath
Libras aren't all about peace and balance take a look at them... a good chunk would rather stay in chaotic dramatic relationships as well as abusive rather than normal ones. And when family and friends confront them about it (they hate arguments) they will quickly defend their SO and continue to have low self esteem just to keep the peace. They hardly stand up for themselves.

"Bob only beats me when he drinks but that's only during the holidays, the rest of the year he's a perfect gentleman and a good father to our kids."
Or....
"Jane isn't controlling, she makes more money than I do and I actually enjoy being a stay at home dad, no it's not belittling when she tells people every chance she gets that I'm unemployed. "

Of course other people do it too but Libras oh Libras have the best excuses for staying. (I think they secretly crave disorder and chaos.) Ask around, I bet every Libra you know has been in a controlling, dysfunctional or abusive relationship at least once in their life. Those who left, congrats. Those who stay I'm truly sad for.


I am in a relationship with a Libra and it is quite the opposite. He is the controlling one and I make the excuses. Secretly crave disorder and chaos.. I think you nailed that one.
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I completely agree. my libra gal is controlling. Manipulative. I would even venture to say mentally abusive with the ups n downs we constantly go through bc of HER
she's put up with some abuse from my end as well (never physical) but she's definitely the abuser out of the 2 of us
Disorder and chaos should be her middle name

And if I had to be quite honest (if libra women are anything like the one I'm dealing with) it's no wonder why abuse is frequent in their relationships. Their not the type of women that anyone can deal with if you lack lots of patience or self control
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Wow this sums up my ex @ralphsleek100 my bf dating libra too i told them hey u gotta be strong and secure with alot of love and patience libras r not 4 the week omg and im dating another libra so far shes ok for now. My ex was a Tasmania devil chucky. One min they cool and balanced the next they r chasing u with a knife ctfu
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Posted by lovely77
Wow this sums up my ex @ralphsleek100 my bf dating libra too i told them hey u gotta be strong and secure with alot of love and patience libras r not 4 the week omg and im dating another libra so far shes ok for now. My ex was a Tasmania devil chucky. One min they cool and balanced the next they r chasing u with a knife ctfu


Lmao dude I know when my girl is mad she's a completely different person, the scales, the balance, everything goes out the window.
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Posted by LuckyLibra979
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The OP just making up some shit he probably found on Google.

Are you guilty of the aforementioned behaviors?


Do u suspect me of said behavior?

I ask because you always take immediate offense to these things.

The fact that you can't even answer the question directly says a lot about you, tbh.



The fact that you come here to say the same thing over and over says a lot about u.
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What a comeback. Bravo.

*slow clap*

You might want to learn to get your emo in check. It really messes with your logic.
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Posted by Sugarfoot
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Posted by lovely77
Wow this sums up my ex @ralphsleek100 my bf dating libra too i told them hey u gotta be strong and secure with alot of love and patience libras r not 4 the week omg and im dating another libra so far shes ok for now. My ex was a Tasmania devil chucky. One min they cool and balanced the next they r chasing u with a knife ctfu


Lmao dude I know when my girl is mad she's a completely different person, the scales, the balance, everything goes out the window.

So stop doing stuff that makes her mad. Nerd
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The list of things that make her mad grows every day. Once I tackle 1 thing there's another. I shouldn't say mad though it takes big things to make her mad but the smallest of the small will "irritate her soul" and cause explosive fights that... (if I was physically abusive) would make me hurt her. It might just be my libra but she's dramaaaa dude



I'm saying a lot of negative shit I feel like I should throw in the fact that she is very lovable and I would never want to hurt her in any way


But it is what it is
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