Give Libra a chance?

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What gift did this girl send him? And did the libra told you he received a gift from her?
Libras love to flirt...they will flirt to get ppl to like them.
However do you want to be with someone who has a wandering eye?
From experience when a libra is into you...they will give you all the attention. They maybe 10 other nicelooking girls around but they will single you out.
Libras will openly flirt with another girl in your presence when they feel youve done them wrong OR he's either a muppet who's not ready for a relationship. So best to avoid him.
Its your call...all relationships are different. Astrology is not gospel.
People's upbringing,culture and moral shape their behaviour also.
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Posted by jamieaqua
Like a lot of Libras, this guy is very charming and a huge flirt although he doesn't flirt w/girls in front of me, he will definitely glance at them in my presence.

If he's not flirting in front of you it means he is trying not to offend you... which means he cares what you think about him... which is a good thing. If you were "just another one of those girls in his book" he'd flirt in front of you.


Posted by jamieaqua
And should it be a red flag that this is all discussed after a few beers? Is it possible he is too shy/scared to discuss this stuff w/me while we are both sober?

There's a reason alcohol is called liquid courage. Most Libras have a deep fear of rejection, alcohol lets us take risks 🙂

Posted by jamieaqua
A few days ago (on the day we last hungout) one of these girls sent him a gift in the mail. He told me that she is a sweet girl but kind of crazy as she is so into him after hanging out only once at a friend's wedding in another state. My response to that is that no girl would send something to you if you didn't flirt or lead her on. He says he can't just not text her back etc. because that would be rude after she sent him this gift which is the classic way Libras like to avoid conflict and keep the peace even if it ends up hurting the other person more in the longrun.
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If he's sending her gifts back then you can complain. I've had female friends send me stuff or just randomly pick things up for me. I've been given a random thing several times by a female friend and they said "I saw this and thought of you so I had to get it for you". It doesn't mean anything is going on. And if it is just a friendship thing it would be rude not to thank them and just pretend it didn't happen. She's not sending him sex lotion or anything right? That would be a reason to wonder...

It's a risk, because some guys are deceitful/cheaters, but not all of us are trying to sleep with every woman we know. I have many female friends and if I started dating someone and they wanted me to ditch all my friends... not happening.
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Posted by jamieaqua
Like a lot of Libras, this guy is very charming and a huge flirt although he doesn't flirt w/girls in front of me, he will definitely glance at them in my presence.

If he's not flirting in front of you it means he is trying not to offend you... which means he cares what you think about him... which is a good thing. If you were "just another one of those girls in his book" he'd flirt in front of you.


Posted by jamieaqua
And should it be a red flag that this is all discussed after a few beers? Is it possible he is too shy/scared to discuss this stuff w/me while we are both sober?

There's a reason alcohol is called liquid courage. Most Libras have a deep fear of rejection, alcohol lets us take risks 🙂

Posted by jamieaqua
A few days ago (on the day we last hungout) one of these girls sent him a gift in the mail. He told me that she is a sweet girl but kind of crazy as she is so into him after hanging out only once at a friend's wedding in another state. My response to that is that no girl would send something to you if you didn't flirt or lead her on. He says he can't just not text her back etc. because that would be rude after she sent him this gift which is the classic way Libras like to avoid conflict and keep the peace even if it ends up hurting the other person more in the longrun.

If he's sending her gifts back then you can complain. I've had female friends send me stuff or just randomly pick things up for me. I've been given a random thing several times by a female friend and they said "I saw this and thought of you so I had to get it for you". It doesn't mean anything is going on. And if it is just a friendship thing it would be rude not to thank them and just pretend it didn't happen. She's not sending him sex lotion or anything right? That would be a reason to wonder...

It's a risk, because some guys are deceitful/cheaters, but not all of us are trying to sleep with every woman we know. I have many female friends and if I started dating someone and they wanted me to ditch all my friends... not happening.
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Libras will openly flirt with another girl in your presence when they feel youve done them wrong OR he's either a muppet who's not ready for a relationship. So best to avoid him.


Read it again, she said he is NOT flirting in front of her. Why avoid him?
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You also need to reread what have written....i wasnt refering to her libra. I was saying what will make a libra flirt in ur presence. Al she's written is he seem to have abit of a wandering eye. He isnt flirting,so he cares what she thinks!!
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Libras will openly flirt with another girl in your presence when they feel youve done them wrong OR he's either a muppet who's not ready for a relationship. So best to avoid him.


Read it again, she said he is NOT flirting in front of her. Why avoid him?




You also need to reread what have written....i wasnt refering to her libra. I was saying what will make a libra flirt in ur presence. Al she's written is he seem to have abit of a wandering eye. He isnt flirting,so he cares what she thinks!!
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Okay, as a general statement I agree with what you're saying. If a libra (or any sign) is openly flirting there's a problem. I thought you we advising this poster to avoid this Libra and was curious why. No worries.

P.S. him 'looking' doesn't mean a wandering eye, it just means he's a guy. If he's gawking or staring or drooling... yeah then slap the back of his head 😛
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Posted by jamieaqua
It's kind of strange but refreshing how honest we can be with one another about other people and everything else in life without having any jealous motives. I feel like we have built what could be a solid friendship...it's just a matter of do I want to take it to the next level and possibly ruin what could be one of the best platonic friendships?


The poor bastard found himself in the friend zone.

Guys let this be a lesson to you. Don't be open, honest, a good listener, etc if you want more than "just" friendship...



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And should it be a red flag that this is all discussed after a few beers? Is it possible he is too shy/scared to discuss this stuff w/me while we are both sober?

There's a reason alcohol is called liquid courage. Most Libras have a deep fear of rejection, alcohol lets us take risks 🙂.



I get that we are all guilty of using alcohol as liquid courage to say something that we don't have the balls (or boobs?) to say when sober but do you think being inebriated may make it easier for him to be more manipulative or less genuine in his words to me?
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Anything is possible and I don't know this guy. For me all alcohol does is remove the fear factor. It does not make me say or do things I wouldn't want to do sober, it just gives me the balls to risk it.

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I went back and read the other thread too, and no I don't think you should go any further with him. You don't like him that way. He obviously likes you but to you he's just a friend. The best thing (for you both) is to walk away completely. If you try to maintain a friendship he's going to wind up getting weird because he likes you too much.

In the other thread when you were talking about leaving your wallet at his place and he seemed bummed when you sent a courier... of course he was, he wanted to see you. When a girl 'forgets' something at a guy's place it usually means she wants to see him again. Especially a wallet... who accidentally forgets that? Then when you were texting him about picking it up he got happy and asked when you wanted to come get it (he was really asking when you wanted to see him again, the wallet is an excuse) and you sent a courier... he got his answer then. You not contacting him for several days should have solidified that with him, but a Libra in infatuation (he hasn't known you long enough for it to be love) looses his common sense.

If that wasn't enough for him, when he asked if you wanted to date (us corny libra schmucks) you replied you didn't have time for it. That is the lamest excuse ever but I've fallen for it too. If you liked him and wanted to be with him you'd MAKE time. Sure you have responsibilities and so does he, but if you want someone/something to be in your life you make it happen. Stephen Covey - —The key is not to prioritize what's on your schedule, but to schedule your priorities??. As romantic interests go, if I'm not your priority then I don't want to be there at all. He wasn't bummed that you wouldn't put out (of course that would be a bonus but that's not all that matters) he was bummed because you shrugged him off.

In the other thread you also said that you don't like the idea of him dating someone else but you don't want to be more than friends. I'll get blasted for stereotyping by star sign again but that is an aqua problem with valuing friends more than anything else. You know he is a good guy and would be good to you but the friend thing takes priority to you. To the Libra a relationship is above all else. Yes, we need a friendship for it to go the distance but once the friendship seems apparent, the relationship gets the focus..
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Some of this crap is reminding me of conversations with my aqua ex and let's just say that ended really bad. Any bitterness in my tone is because of that and shouldn't be taken personally. If you don't want him enough to make him a priority than let him go. He sounds too "love stupid" to walk away right now but he should. He's charming and funny and you like that about him. You guys can talk for hours about anything, which is important to both aqua and libra (everyone I'm sure). You have a sharp mind, and come back with witty stuff which he loves. I live in my mind and like word play. When I'm interested in someone, I look for a sharp wit and a good mind.

When you??re saying he went to the friend zone months ago, he is still thinking he can friend his way out of it. That's really why I call him —poor bastard??. It ain't gonna lead him anywhere but heartache. He's also trying the nice guy thing which doesn't work. I don't mean to imply he's faking being a nice guy when I say he's trying it, but damn I want to slap him.

You told him you were just friends, then he goes where ever and sees your attractive friend. Why shouldn't he hit on her? So he did and it doesn't go anywhere. Weeks later he still has you on his mind and you all are out together. You question him about the friend and he is 100% open and even apologizes??_ WTF is he apologizing for? You and him were never —in a relationship?? so your friends aren't off limits. Hell, you all didn't even sleep together??_ and he didn't sleep with her either??_ there's no need for apologies here. What he did do though was open up and tell you the truth even though he knew it would and by your admission did —open a can of worms??. He is proving his honesty because he wants a relationship. He knows that it can't start with lies so he??ll give an honest answer no matter how awkward the question.
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The first post in this thread you said your big fear was all the other girls he has hanging on him but that's not your problem. You don't want to date him. He's one of those guys who you sit and wish you could mash parts of this one with parts of that one??_ The reason I say the other women aren't the problem is because this last —let's grab a beer after work?? turned into eight hours of the two of you out together talking. (I read that as you two went OUT somewhere and the eight hours weren't at one of your places??_ even it was, pick a different time you??ve been out for hours) Where was his focus during that time? He was watching you right? Listening close, deep conversation, wanting you to understand where he's coming from, etc etc.

You said he knows how to charm and manipulate women to get his way right? Then you were wondering if him drinking was allowing him to manipulate you??_

His drinking is giving him the —stupid?? courage to keep pursuing you even after you??ve rejected him multiple times??_ no wonder he doesn't say anything like this sober. You??ve already told him no. The alcohol is just giving him courage to act on his hidden hopes of you —coming around and liking him too—?_ the poor bastard??_

For clarity sake, I'm not trying to make you the bad guy here. You??ve told him already that you want to be just friends. He is the one refusing to accept it because he thinks you will come around. What I'm trying to say is that you need to recognize what is going on and put a stop to it because he won't. He will keep waiting for you to come around. It's not going to end well for either of you.
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I'm curious what I'm missing that makes jamieaqua and Sagittarius89 think he is a player or jackass. Admittedly I've never been a player so maybe I'm missing 'his game' but he sounds like how I've acted when I really like someone. What makes you think it's a game and not real? I never though players did the 'vulnerable', opening up stuff...

I've been out of 'the dating game' for years though so what do I know anymore.
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I went back and read the other thread too, and no I don't think you should go any further with him. You don't like him that way. He obviously likes you but to you he's just a friend. The best thing (for you both) is to walk away completely. If you try to maintain a friendship he's going to wind up getting weird because he likes you too much.


excuse me? what does it mean? lol.

he ends up being too weird because he likes you so much? i dont get it. why he just doesnt chill the fuck out and relaxes and enjoys his life. and holy shit, stops to drink and starts to live?




If someone likes you as more than just a friend but you only want to be their friend... it'll get weird. If you can't see why, I can't explain it.

The rest of what you said makes no sense. It's completely irrelevant. liking someone doesn't mean we abandon everything else in our lives. What does bungee jumping have to do with liking a girl?

As for this:
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how much sex do u need to have? its always the same, i dont think it changes, uve done it once, then that should be it.
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That's one of the dumbest things I've ever heard...
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Posted by jamieaqua
So yesterday after reading everyone's thoughts (with the exception of KOL), I sent the Leeb a text simply asking if he meant everything he said the other night annnnnd no response. bahahahaha, I really do find it kind of humorous. I know he's super busy studying for the bar that he doesn't feel prepared for whatsoever, but all it would have taken was a simple text back saying 'yes' if he did mean everything. To which I would have sent some witty response basically saying 'okay, let's date'. I can understand him not responding if he didn't mean everything he said the other night so I guess it's safe to say that he did NOT mean everything. Agree?



Not really... a simple yes doesn't say it. He's second guessing himself now. He told you how he feels and wants to know your thoughts. Instead of giving him a response, you question him again. He's probably confused as hell.

Libras need assurance before we push too much. You've have this guy put himself out there a couple times. If I was in his spot I don't know how I would respond to that text. It definitely wouldn't be a quick "yes" while I was running around busy. The last time the topic came up it was an eight hour talk that ended with an "I'll think about it"... I wouldn't be rushing into that rejection again.

I hope this dude doesn't wind up being a douche, lol. I'll feel dumb for supporting him.
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Not really... a simple yes doesn't say it. He's second guessing himself now. He told you how he feels and wants to know your thoughts. Instead of giving him a response, you question him again. He's probably confused as hell.

Libras need assurance before we push too much. You've have this guy put himself out there a couple times. If I was in his spot I don't know how I would respond to that text. It definitely wouldn't be a quick "yes" while I was running around busy. The last time the topic came up it was an eight hour talk that ended with an "I'll think about it"... I wouldn't be rushing into that rejection again.

I hope this dude doesn't wind up being a douche, lol. I'll feel dumb for supporting him.
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Let me clarify, the text I sent him was 'did you mean everything you said even though we were tipsy?' so I guess I was seeking reassurance that he really felt that way and it wasn't just the booze talking. So it's not like I was expecting a heartfelt text from him explaining how much he meant it etc. I dunno, maybe sending that text was bad timing considering he's super busy/stressed, but curiosity killed the cat. I just feel like if he really liked me then he would have responded by now no matter how busy he is.
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ckquote>Posted by aquagirl24
you know what i said: dont play dumb libran game!!! actually i dont understand this: all people are against me, this is the mentality libran men have.

I'm not "against" anyone here. I'll have different opinions but it's not personal. When I make rude or snarky comments it's because they make me laugh (I'm kind of an asshole like that). There is no Libra Man conspiracy against you... at least I haven't gotten the memo if there is...

Second...
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why it is dumb? you keep having sex with people you dont even like, so i dont get the point in doing that? what are you after?

I hope the "you" in this wasn't directed at me specifically... maybe at the rest of the world's population who want to have sex more than once in our lives. Thank god it wasn't just that first time, I had no clue what I was doing lol. If it was at me, I'm very curious why you think you know me well enough to make specific accusations like this... you've done it before too. The fact that your boyfriend and I are both Libra males does not mean we are similar. And just to ease your troubled mind, I have never had sex with someone I didn't like.

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well u see, the cigarette dropping was exactly what my boyfriend said to me. u r so much the same!!!

[...] like: i am asking him to give up his smoking because i am jealous/wtf—

this doesnt make sense. the reason why i ask him to drop cigarettes, ... [etc, etc, somking shit, etc]
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I have no idea how cigarettes got involved in this conversation...but, if he wants to smoke that's his decision not yours. Your decision is whether you want to be with a smoker or not. If his smoking "isnt a problem", like you said, then leave him alone about it. If it is, tell him you don't want to date a smoker and leave. Just stop nagging him about it, that is so annoying.
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aquaqgirl, im trying to stop smoking too but on the days i dont smoke i get angry fast, agitated and arguementive. Actually i can do good but everytime i stop, its when i drink that drops me off cuz i will need a smoke


i think its the emotions and i think mine are just way too extreme, When im happy- im elated, estatic, and energetic. I need to move around when i am happy b/c i get energized so when i cant move around and release that energy it builds up and bam, im drinking heay one night and smokign again.

but when im hurt-im sad, disoriented and stuck with probably no source of energy and it is hard to get up and move on those days and those days i smoke hrd. I think a physical release like exercise will help me stop smoking