I don't WANT to be a counselor!

Yes, Libra Girl's sharing all her problems with me. Which is nice; a compliment; tells me that she trusts me; and I'm an excellent listener. So NOW does this relationship boil down to having me around as a "counselor" or is this one of the Libra modus operandi to get closer? She is SO upset with her sister and feeling guilty about being so upset that she may need a real counselor; not just little ol' moi who isn't trained in that field.

I've been there too. I was a soundingboard for a guy. At the time, I didn't look at it that way, but that's basically what I was. I'm glad there are guys out there who do listen to what we girls say. There is hope. (j/k). Well, I don't know if this to get closer to you. Speaking from a girls' point of view, I would say she values you very much. She may have feelings for you and feels comfortable enough to talk to you about her problems. I don't think a girl would tell her problems to just anybody. Therefore I think it's her way to maybe get closer to you. Personally, when I like a guy, I don't tell him all my problems. First it's because I'm independent, and secondly, I want to accomplish some things on my own. However, if I feel close to the guy, then I will open up more to him. I don't know how long you've known this girl but, if you've known her for a while, she trusts you.

Thanks, Mystical. I've known her for over a year, really started focusing on getting to know her for the last nine months.

She's showing that she trusts you enough to share her deepedst darkest secrets/fears, yada yada....that's a good thing.

Remember, friendship is very important to these lovelies!!

Take your time then. She's into you that's for sure. Glad to help out. Keep focusing on getting to know her. Most relationships start out as friends.

focusing on friends; focusing on friends. (Hey, Chatz, Smell Chetgrrr is working again!).

Atom, when Libras are comfortable with you they will tell you all their problems and can be a good ear when you need one.

QS, she really HAS been good about listening and so have I. I KNOW there's nothing much I can do about her problems, but I'm always supportive. And it is REFRESHING for a beautiful woman to even admit she HAS problems!!! (Many of them try to hide them).

Right on.

kennyg, are you finding new yoga positions while painting? Anyway, I never had intentions with Libra Girl. I just wanted to get to know her better. We click in so many ways and have similar interests and enjoy hanging out with each other. Her personality and character are very healthy for me compared to other women I've been with. We have the same priorities. So I basically share my frustrations here that relate to Libra-ness----the Libra style that confounds a lot of us that write here.

I had no intentions. I intend now to be there for her no matter what. It just seems (as Chatz has so eloquently stated in so many ways) Libran seem cool, SEPARATE, plain ol' hard to understand, even UN-welcoming---but keep coming back to us WANTING us in some way, shape or form. There is no other woman I'm even slightly interested in. Yet on the other hand I have enough friends(!)---so it's confusing, my dear.

*focusing on friends; focusing on friends. (Hey, Chatz, Smell Chetgrrr is working again!)*

Atom, you must really be a very nice guy for her to not hide her "problems" hehehehe.

I agree with QS...they really do make a great ear/shoulder when you need them...mine has certainly shown this a few times and he's not bad at telling me stuff either.....actually, at the end of the day, his friendship means a hell of a lot more than anything else Im after with him.....at the end of the day, real friends are hard to find yet lovers come and go but having both in the same— awesome eh? LOL

Enjoy these times Atom....they are what makes the whole package worthwhile...trust and communication aren't something everybody can have/give....you're doing well but whatever you do, don't push "counselling"...be gentle and slowly guide her towards perhaps seeking more help if you really think she needs it 🙂

Friendship is not important but LOYALTY is. That's what we check and in many different ways, you loyalty. If I'm at my worst are you still there for me? You claim to like me but how conditional or unconditional are you really?

Because we'll keep coming back like an old, lost dog...

Your*

(have just woken up...)

*I had no intentions. I intend now to be there for her no matter what. It just seems (as Chatz has so eloquently stated in so many ways) Libran seem cool, SEPARATE, plain ol' hard to understand, even UN-welcoming---but keep coming back to us WANTING us in some way, shape or form*

Uh huh!!!

I even thanked mine for accepting an invitation today (I do like good manners)....he said "you make it seem like its a chore to see you"....duh!!!! up until now, I thought it might be....see? they keep surprising, just when you think you have it all figured, more surprises and the way they put it— Nice!!!

I definitely think you've come through in leaps and bounds.....wouldn't question it too much 🙂

Appreciate your help, Chatz.

And I'm not saying that just because you're my boss.

*Friendship is not important but LOYALTY is. That's what we check and in many different ways, you loyalty. If I'm at my worst are you still there for me? You claim to like me but how conditional or unconditional are you really?

Because we'll keep coming back like an old, lost dog...*

Yes, I have seen this, even more of recent times and the way you just put that, makes even more sense in my situation, thanks, but without friendship how can you have loyalty? hehehe...pedantic aren't I?

Oh and good morning/evening Libra 🙂

Anytime Atom.....you might even get a promotion soon!!! You can have my job LOL

"they keep surprising, just when you think you have it all figured, more surprises and the way they put it??"

This is one thing you have to know about Libras. We can always 'up it a notch' regardless of the subject, be it sexiness OR how we look OR what we say, etc. We never give it our all so that we can always go above 'the previous' and shine a bit brighter in your eyes. To dazzle you a bit more, of course...

Chatz, I could not sleep anymore so am making little coffees in my little coffees machine.

If we look at you twice we're friends. We've made our choice. No words are necessary to claim or prove...

Thanks, Libra, for reminding me of LOYALTY. I'm writing it in big bold blue letters on my calendar. She has certainly found the right man in me if that's what she wants---all my friends have been with me for well over ten years and I'd do ANYTHING for them at the drop of a hat. And I've ALWAYS been faithful in a relationship with a woman. Believe that is essential---big trust thing. Loyalty. I like it!

And, Chatz? Leaps and bounds— Ahhhhhhhh. . .*blush*

*If we look at you twice we're friends. We've made our choice. No words are necessary to claim or prove* Awwwww that's a nice way of putting it 🙂

*This is one thing you have to know about Libras. We can always 'up it a notch' regardless of the subject, be it sexiness OR how we look OR what we say, etc. We never give it our all so that we can always go above 'the previous' and shine a bit brighter in your eyes. To dazzle you a bit more, of course*

Oh and dazzle he does!! Im slowly learning....Leos kinda give it their all, all of the time...mental note:...don't do that anymore LOL

Ahhh its such a nice day here....love is in the air, birds are singing, sun is shining, weather has cooled though (yay)...and all is good - life is great 😛

An Airies blushing— bwahahahaha

Goodmorning Tom

It's like this. If I am in a bar and I'm talking to a man that I might find attractive - not that I shop a lot - and a woman walks by and the man follows her with his head and eyes, I am gone. How dare he do that in my presence? It's belittleling, for any woman. It's that silly type of loyaltly.

(unless she has three eyes or something)

well three eyes would be a sight!!

kg, no intentions of releasing her. no intentions of getting hurt either.

And I do okay with metaphors authored by William Blake or Rumi, but need plain GUY TALK (we Aries guys are very simple) on this Board soooooooo "the Abyss of us?" You lost me, sweetie.

(I was going to write three breasts...)

Oh and by the way, I will make a point of telling him that I did not appreciate that. But that is probably my Virgo influence.

LOL. I'm not sure either. However, I wonder if Abyss is meaning the core of a Libra. I think so, but hopefully, KG, will fill us in.

The Abyss might just be the Secret Garden...

But Libra, your sign can flirt and perve as much as you like - how is that fair?? nah, its ok, don't answer that.......

Wonder how I'd go going onto the singles sites while my LIbran was on there - wonder if he'd take it ok.....maybe I should give it a go LOL

Nah, maybe not!!

That too it might very well be. I'm not sure though.

Chatz, giving it your all---we'd have it no other way! And, hmmmm, you're right, we Aries are so plain ol' down and dirty that blushing is extremely rare---it just blends into our ruddy complexion. (VERY perceptive, boss! And, no, I don't want your job at the moment).

Libra, I am so enraptured with Libra Girl that I always totaly focus on her---I prefer it that way. And I like it as well! It shows INTEREST in one another. And when that three-eyed gal passed us at the bar the other day, Libra Girl commented on how flat-chested she was!

Are you Aries guy normally shy?

It's disrespectful, IN the moment...

Now Secret Garden I understand.

LOL at flat chested!!! not the big J showing was it??

oh come on, you can be my 2IC Atom!! Take my job, pleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeze!!! lol

Yes I know a few Aries....they don't tend to be phased or show any sign of blushing - yes I've tried ok?? LOL....but Leos?? we do...sheesh!!! in a good way of course 😛

We have over 2,000 people working in my organization and it is so amusing to watch all the starsigns act similarly...I make a hobby out of trying to pick who is what and then finding out for sure....a lot of the time I am right and they really do tend to be much as their starsign says....there's a lot in this stuff isn't there?

Tom, look away from her once and she will go SO sulky, you'll have your answer right there...

(you just made me giggle)

Secret Garden is a place that is also very difficult for us, where the ugliness is kept hidden. Not a nice place, a place where all our demons meet...

I've worked in sales all my life and once I know someone's birthday star sign info sure helps! And it has ALWAYS helped with the girls I've dated. Especially the Gemini's and *wink* Leos!

(Oh yes, it's VERY fun to see Miss Leo blush!).

*hides until the blushing stops* LOL

Libra, it HAS happened---looking away and then the sulking.

*Secret Garden is a place that is also very difficult for us, where the ugliness is kept hidden. Not a nice place, a place where all our demons meet*

Oh nooooooooooooo that sounds horrid 😢

I like to put my demons in amongst my angels to hash things out. I hope that these visits to the secret garden are few and far between 😢

That's your cue...

And when we sulk at that very moment, WE SULK and we might as well go home...

Atom DON'T look away!!!! just dont!!!! Doesnt sound like a fun date if you do!!!

'Just read Mystical's question about Aries guys being normally shy. Help! Help! Help! I'm laughing so hard the tears are just rolling down my cheeks. Oh my gosh!

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It's not that bad!

You won't have to visit the Secret Garden and we don't either. We ignore that and keep it light. With demons I mean just things that we find difficult or that we don't like about ourselves. You know, we want you to focus on out best self, not emphasize the crap. We'll always leave that alone in you. Never will we touch it.

Oh ok....hmmmmm still that's not nice 😢

Guess we all have those "secret gardens" then.....nobody wants to emphasize their bad traits or habits or likes/dislikes, etc.....you're normal LOL

LOL atom, just LOL!!!

Libra, good description.

I try, Atom...

Chatz, I think it's where the emotions live, and the real opinions and where there is no hinting or vagueness. Where diplomacy is left behind. Where we're not nice sometimes. The core of the individual character.

Hmmm. A garden has lovely flowers, weeds and manure.