I'm new here with LM woes
This topic was created in the Libra forum by big bully on Tuesday, November 27, 2007 and has 40 replies.
Hi all I've been reading here for quiet some time now and am really impressed so I hope one of you can help me a little, I'm a taurus and have been in a LDR with a LM for about a year now, each time he seems to begin to open up to me he stops we havent said I love you to one another yet although I know I do, he hints to me alot and flat out tells me he wants me but I'm having trouble figuring out if the want is love or booty call cuz like I said I love him and its weird that I cant tell him considering I have a bad habit of speaking my mind, he is also very jealous of the male friends in my life without reason.......please enlighten me pros. TIA.
Run!!!
ok Some how I knew youd say that .......and u know its not that easy to walk away from him.
Unfortunately but if you have read my story (and I live 5 minutes away from mine), you might want to protect yourself and see others so you can put your feelings away. If he wants you HE will let YOU know!! and not just for sex
bully, i'm a taurus female too and i ran into the same obstacle with my libra boyfriend. we're going on 11 months now and he's said "I love you" once. He does A LOT to imply he loves me, and there's no doubt he loves me, but he is afraid of saying those 3 words. It's almost like he's holding onto something in fair of it not working out with us.
They can separate love and sex, so that's a judgement call you have to make on his sincerity there.
How long has this relationship been going on?
I too speak my mind and it took me a while to feel comfortable with telling him what was on my mind. Now, if he asks what's on my mind, he's gonna know it.
They can separate love and sex, so that's a judgement call you have to make on his sincerity there.
How long has this relationship been going on?
I too speak my mind and it took me a while to feel comfortable with telling him what was on my mind. Now, if he asks what's on my mind, he's gonna know it.
yay, there's FINALLY another Bull involved with a libra man...it was getting to be lonely. lol
My first love/highschool sweetheart is a libra. It was interesting to me that he never knew what he wanted - aren't they supposed to be balanced considering their sign is a scale?!!! Ugh. He was always breaking up with me and then coming back apologizing a day or even a few hours later. I thought it was just because he was young - but from what I've heard they're really like that. It took mine I think 7 months to express he even cared about me. It was bizarre. But if he does really want to be with you you'll know it soon enough - they go for what they want.
when we are young, we are like forrest gump. we dont know what we want. Even when we grow up, what we want is found out experimentally. We dont have any fixed plans, chase them and end up worrying what we couldn't get.
Bully, its better you run before its too late. It may work for a while. But eventually it will become a pain. Now that depends on his age. If he is below 20, you can get him. They older the libra is, the more complicated it gets.
Bully, its better you run before its too late. It may work for a while. But eventually it will become a pain. Now that depends on his age. If he is below 20, you can get him. They older the libra is, the more complicated it gets.
don't pay attention to thelibran. he's too cynical towards bulls no matter the scenario.
Thank you all for the replies, Chatz yes I have pretty much kept up with ur story....gave me the strength I needed at times too ...ty.
TL..hes in his late 40's and I hope ur wrong..
HP yup I knew u were a bull too gf.....I am so used to CM, I have been seeing my LM for a year now and he also does things to imply love but I've been wrong in the past so I was/am scared of mis-judging things with him...he asked me to be straight with him and yet he isnt always straight with me...yes I know we hafta be the understanding ones ....hmmm nah I'm not gonna do it...it changes the way I am on certain levels and even when I am straight with him he seems to get all pissy...soooooo I ask him where we stood last night as far as a relationship goes..FYI he always has this way of answering my questions with another question he reasurred me that we were on an even kilt so to speak and that it wasnt just the sex and he wants me......so hes still dancing around it...and I still feel kinda lost. Sometimes I wonder if the sex would be enuff...dayum I'm leaning towards yes....lol jk...never would've thought sex with a LM would ever beat sex with a TM or SM cuz they are outta this world. I'm going to hafta figure out how to do our chart thingy, again TY All.
TL..hes in his late 40's and I hope ur wrong..
HP
yup I knew u were a bull too gf.....I am so used to CM, I have been seeing my LM for a year now and he also does things to imply love but I've been wrong in the past so I was/am scared of mis-judging things with him...he asked me to be straight with him and yet he isnt always straight with me...yes I know we hafta be the understanding ones ....hmmm nah I'm not gonna do it...it changes the way I am on certain levels and even when I am straight with him he seems to get all pissy...soooooo I ask him where we stood last night as far as a relationship goes..FYI he always has this way of answering my questions with another question he reasurred me that we were on an even kilt so to speak and that it wasnt just the sex and he wants me......so hes still dancing around it...and I still feel kinda lost. Sometimes I wonder if the sex would be enuff...dayum I'm leaning towards yes....lol jk...never would've thought sex with a LM would ever beat sex with a TM or SM cuz they are outta this world. I'm going to hafta figure out how to do our chart thingy, again TY All.
***Bully, its better you run before its too late. It may work for a while. But eventually it will become a pain. Now that depends on his age. If he is below 20, you can get him. They older the libra is, the more complicated it gets.***
Thelibran, you have to really come to terms that All zodiac combos don't work out according to what astrology predicts. Geeez. You have no idea if they will work or not. There are tons of couples who aren't supposed to be compatible according to zodiac signs but are living a lifetime of love and compatibility. You can't confirm anything.
Thelibran, you have to really come to terms that All zodiac combos don't work out according to what astrology predicts. Geeez. You have no idea if they will work or not. There are tons of couples who aren't supposed to be compatible according to zodiac signs but are living a lifetime of love and compatibility. You can't confirm anything.
Bully I don't know a lot of Libra/Taurus combos, but the one or two I know, do well. Even this libra girl/taurus guy are insepeerable and just got engaged after dating a little over a year. They are a gem item!
Don't jump to conclusions on anything with him. My ex hubby (Libra) told me he loved me first which was a few months after casually dating. However, making up their mind can be iffy. We satrte out casually seeing eachother, then I simply told him I wanted more and I really liked him. His response: Okay, lets do it. I was shocked, moved in together a few months later, married, little girl, divorce. LOL!!!
I am just saying if he wants you be in a "relationship" with you he will let you know. Ask him. I hate that some of us tip-toe around these guys in fear of what they might do. I never take that approach and almost always get an honest answer from them this way. Just be sure you can handle whatever the answer is.
Don't jump to conclusions on anything with him. My ex hubby (Libra) told me he loved me first which was a few months after casually dating. However, making up their mind can be iffy. We satrte out casually seeing eachother, then I simply told him I wanted more and I really liked him. His response: Okay, lets do it. I was shocked, moved in together a few months later, married, little girl, divorce. LOL!!!
I am just saying if he wants you be in a "relationship" with you he will let you know. Ask him. I hate that some of us tip-toe around these guys in fear of what they might do. I never take that approach and almost always get an honest answer from them this way. Just be sure you can handle whatever the answer is.
You like using initials, I notice. I had to decode (took me a while!) what LM is.. LDR.. Long drawn relationship??
".I am so used to CM,"
I don't know what CM means..
..Aaand a TM and SM.. just write it.. you make it sound like a secret code :S
Let me comment on one lead
"he is also very jealous of the male friends in my life without reason......"
This is a good call.. it means he has feelings for you. I am jealous only of girls my guy seems to like or is close to. Similarly, I am very close to and love my male dog, and I finally understood why my LM is so cold towards him.
".I am so used to CM,"
I don't know what CM means..
..Aaand a TM and SM.. just write it.. you make it sound like a secret code :S
Let me comment on one lead
"he is also very jealous of the male friends in my life without reason......"
This is a good call.. it means he has feelings for you. I am jealous only of girls my guy seems to like or is close to. Similarly, I am very close to and love my male dog, and I finally understood why my LM is so cold towards him.
I think T & L relationships can be good. They are joined by a mutual love of aesthetics, and not only that the earthy, solid and stable aura of Taurus soothes the Libra's inherent scale-balancing volatility. I always feel more grounded with a Taurus.
Taurus men can make you feel grounded and safe as well
Uhhhh, Spica LDR = Long Distance Relationship...
Uhhhh, Spica LDR = Long Distance Relationship...
CM could be Capricorn or Cancer Male...not sure on that one.
My boyfriend and I talked about the future last night. Asked me if he saw us together in 3 years. What a loaded question!!! I told him "anything is possible with us".
I had no idea how to answer that.
My boyfriend and I talked about the future last night. Asked me if he saw us together in 3 years. What a loaded question!!! I told him "anything is possible with us".
I had no idea how to answer that.
OOPS, he asked ME if I saw us together in 3 years..
HP, I think that was a good answer.
it was either comment or this conversation:
Him: do you see us together in 3 years?
Me: depends. do you love me?
Him: well you're lovable. i'm sure that'll be the same in 3 years.
Me: of course i'm lovable, but you love me?
Him: what does that have to do with us being together in 3 years?
Me: a lot.
Him: I feel so unbalanced right now.
Me: don't make me open up a can of whoop ass.
Him: What were we talking about?
Me: I don't know. You hungry?
Him: do you see us together in 3 years?
Me: depends. do you love me?
Him: well you're lovable. i'm sure that'll be the same in 3 years.
Me: of course i'm lovable, but you love me?
Him: what does that have to do with us being together in 3 years?
Me: a lot.
Him: I feel so unbalanced right now.
Me: don't make me open up a can of whoop ass.
Him: What were we talking about?
Me: I don't know. You hungry?
"Uhhhh, Spica LDR = Long Distance Relationship..."
Ooops! Considering I am in an LDR I should have that at the front of my mind!
"Me: of course i'm lovable, but you love me?
Him: what does that have to do with us being together in 3 years?
Me: a lot."
This one is the usual evasiveness, I've come across by 2 libra guys. Their favourite phrase to me is "what kind of question is that??"
Me: So, are you still smoking?
Him: What kind of question is that?
ME: (Thinks : the answer is obvious doh)
"Him: What were we talking about?
Me: I don't know. You hungry?"
Nice diversion tactic!
Reminds me of a convo with my Taurus brother
Me: What are you doing?
Him: Playing computer games (I was was present and know that!)
Me: What you playing?
Him: Computer
Me: How do you play that game?
Him: Just use the keyboard
Me :LOL!!!!
Ooops! Considering I am in an LDR I should have that at the front of my mind!
"Me: of course i'm lovable, but you love me?
Him: what does that have to do with us being together in 3 years?
Me: a lot."
This one is the usual evasiveness, I've come across by 2 libra guys. Their favourite phrase to me is "what kind of question is that??"
Me: So, are you still smoking?
Him: What kind of question is that?
ME: (Thinks : the answer is obvious doh)
"Him: What were we talking about?
Me: I don't know. You hungry?"
Nice diversion tactic!
Reminds me of a convo with my Taurus brother
Me: What are you doing?
Him: Playing computer games (I was was present and know that!)
Me: What you playing?
Him: Computer
Me: How do you play that game?
Him: Just use the keyboard
Me :LOL!!!!
Oh! I am at this point with the Aries I am seeing. We haven't been seeing each other near that long, only 5 months but .... I can't say I love you either. I love him but do I LOVE him????? I don't know. We are both skating around it. We adore each other and like each other an aweful lot but is it passionate, romantic attraction?
I feel like if I say it ... I am making a promise I may not be able to keep. I am not sure he is my forever home. At the same time, our relationship is so stable, comfortable, and supportive. I have so much fun with him. He is a good friend who I can talk to for hours and hours and hours. But he is also a huge slob and, and, and ...
I think I love you becomes harder when you are older. I use to fall head over heels when I was younger but now ... I know what it means.
I feel like if I say it ... I am making a promise I may not be able to keep. I am not sure he is my forever home. At the same time, our relationship is so stable, comfortable, and supportive. I have so much fun with him. He is a good friend who I can talk to for hours and hours and hours. But he is also a huge slob and, and, and ...
I think I love you becomes harder when you are older. I use to fall head over heels when I was younger but now ... I know what it means.
Queen
I don't feel safe around Taurus men. They actually seem quite volitile to me, my brother and one of my best buddies included. They tend to have bad tempers and blow up a lot. Anger freaks me out.
I don't feel safe around Taurus men. They actually seem quite volitile to me, my brother and one of my best buddies included. They tend to have bad tempers and blow up a lot. Anger freaks me out.
Back to my first post ... "Love is friendship set afire" if that is true ... I wonder if the whole thing will fizzel. I know if Aries was just a friend, I would probably be crushing.
I honestly don't relate to the jealousy thing. And as you all know, I am pretty damn honest and would tell you. I have only been jealous once and as I found out later, I had every reason to be. So I can't relate to that at all.
Sorry not to be of help.
I honestly don't relate to the jealousy thing. And as you all know, I am pretty damn honest and would tell you. I have only been jealous once and as I found out later, I had every reason to be. So I can't relate to that at all.
Sorry not to be of help.
LMAO @ HP!!!
LS, true libra... Analyze, analyze and analyze some more. You can't help it its your nature!!!
LS, the one experience I had with a Bull guy was wonderful. We are still close. I am even close to his family. Current wife, kids etc. They seem nice in my experience. I am sure there are different kind though.
Bully's answers are in LS's post.
Your in a situation with a Libra that happens pretty rarely. He feels himself falling in love with you but he is asking you these questions, asking you to be strait with him because he is holding back just enough to wait and see if YOU are sure before he lets go and falls.
Because of his age and a few other things you mentioned, this isn't a Libra being wishy washy, those are the younger Libra guys. Like LS....he knows he can fall in love with you, or is falling in love with you but wants to be reasurred by the things you do and say before he makes himself that vulnerable.
Your in a situation with a Libra that happens pretty rarely. He feels himself falling in love with you but he is asking you these questions, asking you to be strait with him because he is holding back just enough to wait and see if YOU are sure before he lets go and falls.
Because of his age and a few other things you mentioned, this isn't a Libra being wishy washy, those are the younger Libra guys. Like LS....he knows he can fall in love with you, or is falling in love with you but wants to be reasurred by the things you do and say before he makes himself that vulnerable.
Nic, that is so so very true. that's what I ran into with mine...but it wasn't becuase of his age (we're both in our mid-30's) but rather because he had a failed marriage and from what I understand Libras are the relationship sign.
Party on, Nic....bull's eye.
Party on, Nic....bull's eye.
The other night, we were watching March of the Penguins and my boyfriend's military nickname was Penguin.
Part of the documentary, Morgan Freeman says that the male penguin will mate with his female and will stay monogomous for the next year and then next year is up for grabs.
When I heard that, I blurted out "I thought Penguins mated for life". my boyfriend without a flinch replied with "I tried that - didn't work out". He was talking about his divorce...i think that was one of his tests to see what I'd say...I said nothing. didn't know what to say.
Part of the documentary, Morgan Freeman says that the male penguin will mate with his female and will stay monogomous for the next year and then next year is up for grabs.
When I heard that, I blurted out "I thought Penguins mated for life". my boyfriend without a flinch replied with "I tried that - didn't work out". He was talking about his divorce...i think that was one of his tests to see what I'd say...I said nothing. didn't know what to say.
March of the penguins was one of the most emotional and evocative shows about love i've watched.. if i watched it with my guy it'll definitely be veryx2 awkward.
I agree re: the skating and skirting round each other; boundaries are important. We let down our guard but put it back again. I used to think what I had with him was weird, but I guess it's the norm.
The taurus/lib moon guy I know (my brother) seldom loses his temper, but when he does he can prolly punch a hole in a brick wall - conservation of anger. I probably blow up more than he does.
I agree re: the skating and skirting round each other; boundaries are important. We let down our guard but put it back again. I used to think what I had with him was weird, but I guess it's the norm.
The taurus/lib moon guy I know (my brother) seldom loses his temper, but when he does he can prolly punch a hole in a brick wall - conservation of anger. I probably blow up more than he does.
***I'm having trouble figuring out if the want is love or booty call***
YOU have to tell him what is acceptable and what isn't for YOU. If you don't mind being his Booty call then.......it is what it is because you're accepting of it and if it feels like it is.....it probably is.
I told my Libra right up front that I don't do FWB and I'm not interested in booty. When the situation started feeling like it was getting set up like that... I called him on it and let him know I wasn't interested in the relationship with those terms and it was over for me. I promptly gave him the gift of missing ME this time and if you read some of my recent posts.....you'll see it served to clear his head and mine!!! But if you don't speak up and stand behind your own words (it's hard to walk away when your heart is aching)but you have to be prepared to stand up and walk to prove you mean what you say!
YOU have to tell him what is acceptable and what isn't for YOU. If you don't mind being his Booty call then.......it is what it is because you're accepting of it and if it feels like it is.....it probably is.
I told my Libra right up front that I don't do FWB and I'm not interested in booty. When the situation started feeling like it was getting set up like that... I called him on it and let him know I wasn't interested in the relationship with those terms and it was over for me. I promptly gave him the gift of missing ME this time and if you read some of my recent posts.....you'll see it served to clear his head and mine!!! But if you don't speak up and stand behind your own words (it's hard to walk away when your heart is aching)but you have to be prepared to stand up and walk to prove you mean what you say!
wow alot of help here thx u guys
The CM meant cap .....TM taurus....SM.....Scorpio.....sorry
anyway I had a long talk with my LM he is late 40's I'm 32 I outright asked him and he rocked my world and told me he is ever so deeply in love with me, it was a very close moment for the both of us, I've never been one who holds back in whatever it is I always speak my mind I think I'd have done it with any guy...well least till I complete the credit check...lol, we do have a few things in common but having all things in common is rather boring to me although I'm the social one and hes the jealous one(figure that 1 out)not saying I havent ever felt those pangs b4 I'm just a really secure lady, BTW he wants me to set "THE DATE" yehaw....didnt expect that.
The CM meant cap .....TM taurus....SM.....Scorpio.....sorry
anyway I had a long talk with my LM he is late 40's I'm 32 I outright asked him and he rocked my world and told me he is ever so deeply in love with me, it was a very close moment for the both of us, I've never been one who holds back in whatever it is I always speak my mind I think I'd have done it with any guy...well least till I complete the credit check...lol, we do have a few things in common but having all things in common is rather boring to me although I'm the social one and hes the jealous one(figure that 1 out)not saying I havent ever felt those pangs b4 I'm just a really secure lady, BTW he wants me to set "THE DATE" yehaw....didnt expect that.
Uhhh, set the date? For what?
Uhhh, set the date? For what?
hello ......"the date" he ask me to marry him ...I just dont know when.
hello ......"the date" he ask me to marry him ...I just dont know when.
How long have you two been together?
Exclusively dating for a year but have known him for 3 yrs, I'm leaning towards living together but he doesnt seem to like that idea at all....???
He sounds old fashioned. LOL!!! Make sure you are ready...
Update.....I thought things were going pretty well...I will admit I'm nutso 4 the guy but he had a jealous rant 2 weeks ago and we havent spoken since....I'm growing rather tired of having to be the one to understand my LM I think its his turn to figure me out....kinda down but I refuse to kiss his but again and he knows once my mind is made up he can F it........ou la la.
(( I'm growing rather tired of having to be the one to understand my LM I think its his turn to figure me out....kinda down but I refuse to kiss his but again and he knows once my mind is made up he can F it........ou la la. ))
He already know you well and good outside the details of astrology. Its always your job to get to know a libra as we are. Mainly bcoz our character keeps changing on a daily basis. We can change our decisions in split seconds and chase totally different goals. And we dont appreciate people who cannot change. If he dont know how a taurus thinks, he end up assuming they have particular ethics which makes them so stubborn. Obviously we dont like that nature bcoz we know it has its own flaws and how much trouble others have to go through to get things working with stubborn people. And we keep chking out on taurus thinking they might have cared to use their brain a little bit and tried to see our angle. But we always end up getting it totally wrong.
He already know you well and good outside the details of astrology. Its always your job to get to know a libra as we are. Mainly bcoz our character keeps changing on a daily basis. We can change our decisions in split seconds and chase totally different goals. And we dont appreciate people who cannot change. If he dont know how a taurus thinks, he end up assuming they have particular ethics which makes them so stubborn. Obviously we dont like that nature bcoz we know it has its own flaws and how much trouble others have to go through to get things working with stubborn people. And we keep chking out on taurus thinking they might have cared to use their brain a little bit and tried to see our angle. But we always end up getting it totally wrong.
No sorry but I disagree it isnt my job, I cant and wont apologize for knowing what I want and having the nerve to go for it, it grows old so fast having to be the decision maker within a couple..I mean LM wants that of me then when I do it he changes his mind,ohhhh soooooo tiresome.....and since Libras are so smart u'd think they would indeed use their brain as well....make a decision and freaking stick to it FCOL.....makes him mad cuz I get all the attention from his buddies(attention he wants)not my fault it's my taurus after all
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