Let me clear shit up 4 ya

This topic was created in the Libra forum by Pride of 0ctober on Wednesday, December 30, 2009 and has 24 replies.
i see that just like its always been on here that libras are catching alot flack for alot of ish and how we are this and that so i wanna take some questions on about my judical sign cuz its funny what ppl think about us
so ask me why libras are the way we are and i can clear sum shit up 4 ya
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Posted by fourthwallbreaker
Why libras are the way we are ? smile


Great question fourthwallbreaker

No one truly understands the initiators of the fall except us and we really dont ourselves. The scales constantly dip bewteen extremes although ppl dont readily consider us extreme people

As the dipolmats of the zodiac we try to be as fair as possible in all relations with ppl and as any judge knows, this requires you to put your needs and desires last in order to get a clear view of the situation at hand. But we need to learn where our needs should come into play. We often get upset when our needs arent met either b/c we are constantly catering to other ppl(sounds like another sign doesnt it)yet we get a rap for being aloof and unaware

What confuses ppl is when we finally do become aggressive and nobody's pushover when we no longer sit back and expect our needs to be met, when we do go out and push for results. I think we expect our needs to be respected rather then putting it out there from jump
We believe in power thru co op but that doesnt mean we cant stand alone nor do we mind it. ITs just that our true personas shine when we help ppl, we are about helping and diffusing, even though we desire otherwise.
Which is the perfect role of the judge, to hand down judgement regardless of their own emotions. We are not people pleasers, we just understand people, why people re act the way they do and we understand the human nature of others and are well aware of others. the PROBLEM ARISES WEHN WE DEPEND ON IT, when we feel like the best result comes from another person rather than ourselves, and this is when balance is needed
You will run across Libras who depend solely on themsleves and know exactly what makes them happy BUT they are well aware of another person's needs, wants, and desires AND we are more than willing to fulfill BUT as i stated earlier, there needs to be a line drawn
As in will our needs, desires, and sense of self be compormised if we bend? And if this person cant meet us half way and they are not willing to please us in the wee bit way is it worth it?
We libras understand people greatly we just need to seperate ourselves from people and understand that everything we have experienced from people is not an idea of ours, its only an idea of someone else that we have ran across.
We have a deep seated need for a deep and ever lastin
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bond with someone, someone to hsare our dreams an hopes with, without fear of being ridiculed. We are not pusghovers either, but when we dont feel like dealing with something we absolutely wont until we feel it is time to and that is our unconscious need to be the aggressor like all cardinal signs, our stubborness is our way of taking control until we feel like the scales are balanced.
So the reason we are the way we are is that we unbderstand ppl, and understand what mood they are in, but we must realise that even when a person is angry, if we are angry it deoesnt need to be supressed b/c we will constanly get ppl who attempt to walk on us. Libras have a silent unconsious need to be leaders at any cost but constantly go with the peaceful way no matter what even though peace does not always bring permanant harmony. But a true mature libra knows that the best way to get the results a Libra wants is to go out and get it, be outfront and at the same time help people to realise their needs and that their needs shoul be met also. Lying is not a way to bring peace, peace has to be achieved through the hottest hell and arguemnts and dealing with ALL sides of a persons emotions, not just the peaceful side of people
A true balanced Libra is spritual yet painfully realistic, compromising but honest, able to co operate but stand alone and take charge, sexual but understands the meaning of sex and the bond it creates, a listener wuth honest advice, and intuitive yet distant when needed
that makes us the way we are cuz we a STRIVERS and we strive to be all the we are not at the moment but we must remember we are CARDINAL signs, which are known for aggression, assertion, and initive(spelling), we have these qualitites in us and we must relaise that it should be full circle and that people will never understand us though we understand ppl and thats how it should be

we are the way we are cuz we hold the gavel and the scales
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Why are Libras so manipulative? And when you call them on their bs, they act so stupid and try to flip the script on you.
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good question. and, also, what if it's the libra's scales that are UNbalanced but they refuse to see that and think it's everyone else? what if they are preaching "meeting half way" but they don't meet half way?
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Posted by Bella79
Why are Libras so manipulative? And when you call them on their bs, they act so stupid and try to flip the script on you.


You are leo arent you? just curious

Good question. The manipulation comes from a low level of maturity as a way to maintain a certain image in the relationship. those libras have not grown and can not bear the responsiblity of honesty. Remember that libras got a co rulership with saturn too which makes for a respectful libra if mature
A mature Libra understands that in a relationship you must be honest regardless of whatever re action may come about. The way of flipping the script is way of as stupid as it sounds a way of keeping balance by making both parties take blame, really its a libra's way of masking how they feel when they see the lie has got them in too deep
likew u said though its just an act and Libras must grow like any other sign in order to get what they truly want, all libras have a need to overcome fears vs. aries NEED to instinctly do so. one of the biggest fears for a libra is to accept honesty and until a libra grows you will constantly deal with a lying ass dipolmat
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Posted by misslissa
good question. and, also, what if it's the libra's scales that are UNbalanced but they refuse to see that and think it's everyone else? what if they are preaching "meeting half way" but they don't meet half way?



thats the thing the more mature e get the more we realise how much bullshit are put in words, m not on here saying false things to ya'll, i know from my experiece and when i sit back and look at things i realise what messed them up
but as the saying goes you must practice what you preach and that takes action too

to you and bella79 if you are with a libra that u are not willing to seprate completely with you need to sit them down and have a serious talk to them and tell them what needs to be DONE not said
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lying ass diplomat...So true. Yes, I am a leo. No,I am not with a libra. But ex-libra keeps popping into my life. And he gets under my skin. I just dont understand why he doesnt leave me in peace. My guy friends say its because he knows "he is the boss of me " that I love and care about him.
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Posted by Pride of 0ctober
Posted by misslissa
good question. and, also, what if it's the libra's scales that are UNbalanced but they refuse to see that and think it's everyone else? what if they are preaching "meeting half way" but they don't meet half way?



thats the thing the more mature e get the more we realise how much bullshit are put in words, m not on here saying false things to ya'll, i know from my experiece and when i sit back and look at things i realise what messed them up
but as the saying goes you must practice what you preach and that takes action too

to you and bella79 if you are with a libra that u are not willing to seprate completely with you need to sit them down and have a serious talk to them and tell them what needs to be DONE not said
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thank you for answering my curious questions. i have been with a libra man for 2 1/2 years now. smile
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Posted by Bella79
lying ass diplomat...So true. Yes, I am a leo. No,I am not with a libra. But ex-libra keeps popping into my life. And he gets under my skin. I just dont understand why he doesnt leave me in peace. My guy friends say its because he knows "he is the boss of me " that I love and care about him.


how do u truly feel about him, do you want things to work out between ya'll or do u want this to just be a thing of the past?
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Posted by misslissa
Posted by Pride of 0ctober
Posted by misslissa
good question. and, also, what if it's the libra's scales that are UNbalanced but they refuse to see that and think it's everyone else? what if they are preaching "meeting half way" but they don't meet half way?



thats the thing the more mature e get the more we realise how much bullshit are put in words, m not on here saying false things to ya'll, i know from my experiece and when i sit back and look at things i realise what messed them up
but as the saying goes you must practice what you preach and that takes action too

to you and bella79 if you are with a libra that u are not willing to seprate completely with you need to sit them down and have a serious talk to them and tell them what needs to be DONE not said


thank you for answering my curious questions. i have been with a libra man for 2 1/2 years now. smile
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my pleasure
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Posted by Bella79
Why are Libras so manipulative? And when you call them on their bs, they act so stupid and try to flip the script on you.


Oh that isn't a libra thing. That is a man thing. lol!
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little sparrow is def. a libra lol
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Hey Pride, like your insight to us Libras. Do you study astrology?
My question is...when making an important decision, one that will effect my life completely. i get to a point where I'm 75% sure of the decision but it's not the answer I'd really like. The smaller percentage has me hesitant, always...Is this me just looking for the brighter side or the best in a situation? I've gone with my 75% before and then regretted the decision but then it's irreversible and too late...
It happens with all the big things in my life
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Posted by sweethearts
Hey Pride, like your insight to us Libras. Do you study astrology?
My question is...when making an important decision, one that will effect my life completely. i get to a point where I'm 75% sure of the decision but it's not the answer I'd really like. The smaller percentage has me hesitant, always...Is this me just looking for the brighter side or the best in a situation? I've gone with my 75% before and then regretted the decision but then it's irreversible and too late...
It happens with all the big things in my life


yea im a begnnner but the insight just comes from being a libra myself and going thru alot changing me, i had to change.
now to your quesrionThe comfort zone, maybe its not an aswer you like b/c it means you will have to step out of a comfort zone, we like to be stable and any rattleing can also make is nerved up and change our mind with the wind.
That could come from maybe not wanting to let go of what you might lose with that decision, but you do have the inner strength to gain it back, i know how you feel
and it could be you wanting to make sure this is right, but just hump right in and you will be happy. Why? b/c it will give you faith, we, like aries, dont liek to fail but they will anyway. We wont just to be right and that causes indecision. Even if that decision is dark, it might be best,

failure is just the wrong way of SEARCHING for the right way. Trust your gut too we self doubt and go back and forth and should just go with our gut, and another reason for our indecision is we are more than aware of the change it will make and then we put our selves unconciously in situations where we must make the decision our gut told us too at first. Trust your gut with your feelings, no one can tell you you are wrong about what you feel and i promise your ACTIVE indecison will change, and i say active b/c we always weigh things, even when quiet cuz we are the judge Winking
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our indecisoin is our way of being decisive and preparing ourselves, we are natural doers and it will get one, a decision will be made, we put all our energy into the decision which makes us weigh pros and cons to decide where we will fully throw ourselves,
we learn with exp. and a new decision means a new exp., we want to make sure we are fully involved in the new decision and that its right
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In theory 75% is the pros and cons, the cons outweighing the decision and to be less favorable of the situation, and the 25% gut instinct that it's the wrong decision or I shouldn't do it and just wait...???
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Oh and nothing bugs me more than getting it wrong!!! I just want to beat myself up and find that feeling hard to let go of!
I hate being indecisive and have taught myself not to stress out on the little decisions and make snap decisions but the bigger stuff stumble me all the time!
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it will change over time trust me, you will go thru exp. that encourage to follow that 25% i promise, once you do your decisiveness will change b/c you will be making them off instinct and intuition, and the frustration will cause you to push for decisiveness, i found mine thru isolation and i never felt the way i do now, truly able to be happy and i do get scared and nervous when making decisions that are big but but when i go with my gut im always right. Even when i didnt, the siutations caused me to reflect and realise i shoulda foillowed my first mind, and now its natural

It will come, your frustration will make you, you have an independent soul simply based off the fact that your are tryna to change negative traits and thats honorable
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Thanks, Pride. You've reassured me to hold off at this stage...curb the impatience in me smile
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Posted by sweethearts
In theory 75% is the pros and cons, the cons outweighing the decision and to be less favorable of the situation, and the 25% gut instinct that it's the wrong decision or I shouldn't do it and just wait...???



^^^That didnt make sense!!^^^^
What I meant was 75% says to drop it all together... but gut instinct says hang in there!
Too much partying lately smile
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that impatience is just your soul waiting to prove itself dont worry things will change and you will fall in love with judge within cuz you WILL become more decisive trust me, we go thru expereinces all the time to make us grow libras are doers,
i takes patience but you will get there hell and prolly be giving me advice in the future
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I notice that it's the Libra males who get the brunt of the bashing.
I guess stereotypically "female" and "Libra" negative behaviors overlap to the point of not surprising anyone to the point where they're compelled to bitch about it.
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Thank you for this view of a Libra, It does make sense of the distance and quietness I am getting from the Libra man I am "dating". We kind of came to a stall or "break" and I am trying to figure out what it means. Did he just put us on hold while he deals with his other life issues or does it mean he is trying to move on and past me. We still stay in some limited contact.
One thing I did is ask him where things are with us...he said it was a fair question and he "needs to find an answer for me"...WTF does that mean? Does he not know the answer himself. Trying to figure out his gut feelings? I am a very black and white person sometimes and go with how I feel. I am not bashing or making light of his comment, just trying to understand what he meant.
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