Libra moons and mental reciprocity

This topic was created in the Libra Moon forum by libralionfish on Thursday, March 14, 2019 and has 34 replies.


Having my sun sign square to my moon sign always leads me to question my emotional motives.

Do any libra moons feel that if their partner is not evenly matched to them, they will do things to undermine their partner and their relationship?

I do this all the time. If I feel my partner is not on the same mental level as me, I can start turning nasty and doing things to test their mental aptitude. It's like I'm testing them to see if they can operate at the same level as me. Sometimes I think I can't respect anyone who can't match me in a relationship. The emotional need for balance and mental stimulation is huge with this moon placement.

I wonder if it's this need for balance that contributes to libra's reputation for being a serial dater?
Yes 100% regarding the mental stimulation. I cannot be with anyone who I can't have discussions with... and if i end up in such relationships it makes me really bitter Sad

"Do any libra moons feel that if their partner is not evenly matched to them, they will do things to undermine their partner and their relationship?"

- Can you give examples of what you mean?
Mental level as in intelligence?
Posted by Black-Mamba

Wow so you suppress your emotions by badgering another emotional state with your games

Libra moons are evil, thanks for confirming
The statement you made makes no sense at all. I'm not sure why you've been so Defensive since my last post, and why this post is even relevant to you.
My cap has a libra moon and he easily feels unbalanced emotionally/mentally. Things affect his mood easily but at the same time he can let go of it and go back to being normal
Posted by stillstillwater

Yes 100% regarding the mental stimulation. I cannot be with anyone who I can't have discussions with... and if i end up in such relationships it makes me really bitter Sad

"Do any libra moons feel that if their partner is not evenly matched to them, they will do things to undermine their partner and their relationship?"

- Can you give examples of what you mean?
For example, I get frustrated with my partner if I think someone is taking advantage of him and he does nothing to address the person or fight back. We have a shared driveway with the neighbor next door, and she is always parking her car in the driveway like she owns it. My fiance owns his house, and the neighbor is a renter. I think it's ridiculous that he's a property owner and this woman is using the driveway 99% of the time. Again, an issue with reciprocity.

I asked him why he doesn't address this issue with her and he says he doesn't want to cause any waves or ill will. Parking is very hard to find on his street and this woman is too lazy to give up the driveway. It pisses me off that he won't speak to her and I start questioning his ability to run a household. I'll say this to his face and then he feels offended and undermined.
Posted by dilettante

my libra moon looks for companionship... which is why i date a lot/ hold on to toxic relationships. honestly, dating around causes me to feel imbalanced bc im spreading my energy so thin.

i definitely need emotional reciprocity & mental stimulation. if we arent having good banter, im prob not gonna give a lot of my time to you.

yr whole bit about testing mental aptitude is kinda fucked though.
I'm not sure why I feel the need to test like that. It's not a test made to undermine but it comes across that way. I feel like I'm testing for weakness, as in, can people take advantage of you sort of thing.
Posted by elllle

Okay....^^^^ that clearly sounds like a square.

Emasculation is not a good look.
Definitely a square!
Posted by elllle

Okay....^^^^ that clearly sounds like a square.

Emasculation is not a good look.
I don't think I emasculate my partner, but I also have the same issue with not being able to respect a man, that I don't feel is on par with me in intelligence. If anything, I detest stupidity to a point that it is a pet peeve of mine. I can't deal with it. lol
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Posted by elllle

Okay....^^^^ that clearly sounds like a square.

Emasculation is not a good look.
I don't think I emasculate my partner, but I also have the same issue with not being able to respect a man, that I don't feel is on par with me in intelligence. If anything, I detest stupidity to a point that it is a pet peeve of mine. I can't deal with it. lol
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This is exactly how I feel. The last thing I want to do is emasculate him. I just can't tolerate what I'm calling willful ignorance (and not stupidity, lol) in my example.
Posted by libralionfish

For example, I get frustrated with my partner if I think someone is taking advantage of him and he does nothing to address the person or fight back. We have a shared driveway with the neighbor next door, and she is always parking her car in the driveway like she owns it. My fiance owns his house, and the neighbor is a renter. I think it's ridiculous that he's a property owner and this woman is using the driveway 99% of the time. Again, an issue with reciprocity.

I asked him why he doesn't address this issue with her and he says he doesn't want to cause any waves or ill will. Parking is very hard to find on his street and this woman is too lazy to give up the driveway. It pisses me off that he won't speak to her and I start questioning his ability to run a household. I'll say this to his face and then he feels offended and undermined.
In this situation, I understand your frustration. It's the "unfairness" of it that bothers you. But here is the thing you have to try and also understand, is that if he isn't bothered by it, and he found his own solution for himself, then you really shouldn't be so confrontational about it. After all, it is only a parking spot. Correlating how he runs a household, cannot be compared with that. Focus on how he makes you feel as a partner, not how he handles his renter. Some things are worth fighting for, and other things are trivial in the grand scheme of life.

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Posted by elllle

Okay....^^^^ that clearly sounds like a square.

Emasculation is not a good look.
I don't think I emasculate my partner, but I also have the same issue with not being able to respect a man, that I don't feel is on par with me in intelligence. If anything, I detest stupidity to a point that it is a pet peeve of mine. I can't deal with it. lol
I remember you speaking about it in past posts.

Yours is a different energy though....it is not so harsh.

It is very interesting how the signs emit the same flavour but different intensities.

Like the wings at bw3....it's all chicken, just different sauces. 😂🤣
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LOL!

I think I may come off "snobby" or "cold" under first impressions. Cause if I sense any form of "stupid" in my eyes, I don't even give you a chance. Therefore, you don't warrant me interacting with you. LOL
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Posted by elllle

Okay....^^^^ that clearly sounds like a square.

Emasculation is not a good look.
Definitely a square!
At least you are honest....lol.

I think the biggest thing for sun square moon is control. In all forms....even over people. Not having control can lead to depression with this square.

Probably should practice not caring so much.

It is just a parking space. It isn't a cure for cancer or a solution for world hunger.

Try to distract yourself with something mundane to slow the thoughts.
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I'm trying to be honest. I'm definitely a control freak and I've gotten better with it over the years.

What I've found with this sort of energy is that I need to find an outlet for it outside of my relationship. I've realized that my significant other can't provide for every single one of my needs, but that doesn't make it a bad relationship. It's too ideal to expect everything out of one person. I think the libra in me looks for this ideal, which doesn't exist. This is why we have friendships, hobbies, etc. It is so easy for me to get embroiled in my partner with my moon placement, though.

My sun is in pisces, so I can't hold on to negative feelings for too long. In the end it always boils down to love with me. I'm not gonna lie though, there is a constant struggle between my head and my heart.
Posted by LadyNeptune

Mental level as in intelligence?
Yes, intelligence, but it goes beyond just text book smarts. I'm also talking about organizational abilities and an understanding of human psychology.
My Libra moon ridicules what I spend monies on. I tell him he can make all my purchasing decisions if he’s paying the bill lol 😎💅
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Posted by nikkistar

Posted by elllle

Okay....^^^^ that clearly sounds like a square.

Emasculation is not a good look.
I don't think I emasculate my partner, but I also have the same issue with not being able to respect a man, that I don't feel is on par with me in intelligence. If anything, I detest stupidity to a point that it is a pet peeve of mine. I can't deal with it. lol
I remember you speaking about it in past posts.

Yours is a different energy though....it is not so harsh.

It is very interesting how the signs emit the same flavour but different intensities.

Like the wings at bw3....it's all chicken, just different sauces. 😂🤣
Nikkistar is not like any other libra moon i know

she's a star i tell you, a star
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You don’t even have the Sun Square Moon aspect and it’s impossible for a Pisces Sun to Square Libra Moon.

Nothing to see here but yet another delusional Pisces without facts.
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Posted by libralionfish

Posted by LadyNeptune

Mental level as in intelligence?
Yes, intelligence, but it goes beyond just text book smarts. I'm also talking about organizational abilities and an understanding of human psychology.
what is your mans sign and moon

i am shocked that a libra moon would understand/know human psychology

as selfish as they are
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His sun is in scorpio and his moon is in virgo. He's not a textbook scorpio at all.

Cancer is just as selfish as libra, if not more. They are in the child category of zodiac signs. Libras are selfish in a midlife crisis sort of way and cancers are selfish in a me, me, me kind of way. I know this because I have my rising in leo. Cancers need constant attention or they feel neglected. If you insist on muckraking.

Let the one without sin be the first to cast the stone ...
Posted by black773

You don’t even have the Sun Square Moon aspect and it’s impossible for a Pisces Sun to Square Libra Moon.

Nothing to see here but yet another delusional Pisces without facts.
I'm not that well versed in chart terminology/aspects so I'm using the wrong terms. My sun is pisces and my moon is libra.
Posted by libralionfish

Posted by black773

You don’t even have the Sun Square Moon aspect and it’s impossible for a Pisces Sun to Square Libra Moon.

Nothing to see here but yet another delusional Pisces without facts.
I'm not that well versed in chart terminology/aspects so I'm using the wrong terms. My sun is pisces and my moon is libra.
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Now let's see if you're another defensive cancer who can't stand being called out ... At least I'm being honest with myself.
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Posted by black773

You don’t even have the Sun Square Moon aspect and it’s impossible for a Pisces Sun to Square Libra Moon.

Nothing to see here but yet another delusional Pisces without facts.
I'm not that well versed in chart terminology/aspects so I'm using the wrong terms. My sun is pisces and my moon is libra.
Now let's see if you're another defensive cancer who can't stand being called out ... At least I'm being honest with myself.
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Gather your facts and you won’t be corrected. I saw that you were a Pisces sun and Libra moon already, it takes seconds to go to a profile to read that. What exactly are you going on about Cancer for? I am not a Cancer.

Pisces are so damn delusional. It’s like having a conversation with a child. For all I know, you could be confronting your man in your head and none of this is a reality. I can’t believe a delusional Pisces, you all make up lies.
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Posted by LadyNeptune

Mental level as in intelligence?
Yes, intelligence, but it goes beyond just text book smarts. I'm also talking about organizational abilities and an understanding of human psychology.
what is your mans sign and moon

i am shocked that a libra moon would understand/know human psychology

as selfish as they are
His sun is in scorpio and his moon is in virgo. He's not a textbook scorpio at all.

Cancer is just as selfish as libra, if not more. They are in the child category of zodiac signs. Libras are selfish in a midlife crisis sort of way and cancers are selfish in a me, me, me kind of way. I know this because I have my rising in leo. Cancers need constant attention or they feel neglected. If you insist on muckraking.

Let the one without sin be the first to cast the stone ...
Ok now if nobody else here will step up to the plate and give you any good compliments on this post well let me be the first to do just that. This is the best post I've seen yet. Very well thought out and very well put.
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Thanks! I'm looking for insight. Not 100% with my descriptions but trying to sort through my thought process.
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Posted by LadyNeptune

Mental level as in intelligence?
Yes, intelligence, but it goes beyond just text book smarts. I'm also talking about organizational abilities and an understanding of human psychology.
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Most men aren't as detailed oriented as women. And if they are they most likely have the ocd.

Libra moon doesn't like confrontation. But its irking you so you want him to confront her for you.

Just let it go.




Or slash her tires. Your call
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Posted by libralionfish

Posted by black773

You don’t even have the Sun Square Moon aspect and it’s impossible for a Pisces Sun to Square Libra Moon.

Nothing to see here but yet another delusional Pisces without facts.
I'm not that well versed in chart terminology/aspects so I'm using the wrong terms. My sun is pisces and my moon is libra.
Now let's see if you're another defensive cancer who can't stand being called out ... At least I'm being honest with myself.


Gather your facts and you won’t be corrected. I saw that you were a Pisces sun and Libra moon already, it takes seconds to go to a profile to read that. What exactly are you going on about Cancer for? I am not a Cancer.

Pisces are so damn delusional. It’s like having a conversation with a child. For all I know, you could be confronting your man in your head and none of this is a reality. I can’t believe a delusional Pisces, you all make up lies.
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If she has interceptions in her chart and the house Libra and or/Pisces are wide houses, they could be square by degrees

OP, you comfortable enough to post your chart?
Posted by libralionfish

Do any libra moons feel that if their partner is not evenly matched to them, they will do things to undermine their partner and their relationship?

I do this all the time. If I feel my partner is not on the same mental level as me, I can start turning nasty and doing things to test their mental aptitude. It's like I'm testing them to see if they can operate at the same level as me. Sometimes I think I can't respect anyone who can't match me in a relationship. The emotional need for balance and mental stimulation is huge with this moon placement.

I wonder if it's this need for balance that contributes to libra's reputation for being a serial dater?
Evenly matched would just be my view of it and I would doubt that I could even make a fair assessment....so much I could be missing or not seeing. So logically I cannot relate to that. Also depends on my mood though LOL.

I have never been a serial dater so I wouldn't even know how to do that and tbh the thought of it makes me feel like dating no one. I am the one who won't let go lol and puts up with way too much ~~ gives the benefit of the doubt too much. Someone once told me that the way that I am cannot be put into someone's hands who does not have my best interest in mind.

I can, however, totally relate to the need for emotional balance. Aaaand I never have it. But I have issues so it's ok Tongue
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Okay....^^^^ that clearly sounds like a square.

Emasculation is not a good look.
Definitely a square!
At least you are honest....lol.

I think the biggest thing for sun square moon is control. In all forms....even over people. Not having control can lead to depression with this square.

Probably should practice not caring so much.

It is just a parking space. It isn't a cure for cancer or a solution for world hunger.

Try to distract yourself with something mundane to slow the thoughts.
I'm trying to be honest. I'm definitely a control freak and I've gotten better with it over the years.

What I've found with this sort of energy is that I need to find an outlet for it outside of my relationship. I've realized that my significant other can't provide for every single one of my needs, but that doesn't make it a bad relationship. It's too ideal to expect everything out of one person. I think the libra in me looks for this ideal, which doesn't exist. This is why we have friendships, hobbies, etc. It is so easy for me to get embroiled in my partner with my moon placement, though.

My sun is in pisces, so I can't hold on to negative feelings for too long. In the end it always boils down to love with me. I'm not gonna lie though, there is a constant struggle between my head and my heart.
I feel you. I have the libra venus (and a libra stellium in my pisces 12th house)....but with an opposition to my aries moon.

Constant push and pull.

I feel like a rag doll between my head and heart with all the tug of war they play...lol

Travel helps (away from my partner)...and hobbies. I know it feels forced because why wouldnt we want to be with out partners all the time!! (because 5 minutes into it...we don't...lol)

Taking time away from my partner actually helps me appreciate and love him even more.
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lol like you scared me with the things you say...stop that 😁
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Posted by elllle

Okay....^^^^ that clearly sounds like a square.

Emasculation is not a good look.
Definitely a square!
At least you are honest....lol.

I think the biggest thing for sun square moon is control. In all forms....even over people. Not having control can lead to depression with this square.

Probably should practice not caring so much.

It is just a parking space. It isn't a cure for cancer or a solution for world hunger.

Try to distract yourself with something mundane to slow the thoughts.
I'm trying to be honest. I'm definitely a control freak and I've gotten better with it over the years.

What I've found with this sort of energy is that I need to find an outlet for it outside of my relationship. I've realized that my significant other can't provide for every single one of my needs, but that doesn't make it a bad relationship. It's too ideal to expect everything out of one person. I think the libra in me looks for this ideal, which doesn't exist. This is why we have friendships, hobbies, etc. It is so easy for me to get embroiled in my partner with my moon placement, though.

My sun is in pisces, so I can't hold on to negative feelings for too long. In the end it always boils down to love with me. I'm not gonna lie though, there is a constant struggle between my head and my heart.
I feel you. I have the libra venus (and a libra stellium in my pisces 12th house)....but with an opposition to my aries moon.

Constant push and pull.

I feel like a rag doll between my head and heart with all the tug of war they play...lol

Travel helps (away from my partner)...and hobbies. I know it feels forced because why wouldnt we want to be with out partners all the time!! (because 5 minutes into it...we don't...lol)

Taking time away from my partner actually helps me appreciate and love him even more.
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I Love my fellow Scriba!
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Posted by black773

You don’t even have the Sun Square Moon aspect and it’s impossible for a Pisces Sun to Square Libra Moon.

Nothing to see here but yet another delusional Pisces without facts.
I'm not that well versed in chart terminology/aspects so I'm using the wrong terms. My sun is pisces and my moon is libra.
Now let's see if you're another defensive cancer who can't stand being called out ... At least I'm being honest with myself.


Gather your facts and you won’t be corrected. I saw that you were a Pisces sun and Libra moon already, it takes seconds to go to a profile to read that. What exactly are you going on about Cancer for? I am not a Cancer.

Pisces are so damn delusional. It’s like having a conversation with a child. For all I know, you could be confronting your man in your head and none of this is a reality. I can’t believe a delusional Pisces, you all make up lies.


If she has interceptions in her chart and the house Libra and or/Pisces are wide houses, they could be square by degrees

OP, you comfortable enough to post your chart?
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Thanks for the advice! I have a link to my chart here: https://astro-charts.com/chart/126acc000/
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Posted by black773

You don’t even have the Sun Square Moon aspect and it’s impossible for a Pisces Sun to Square Libra Moon.

Nothing to see here but yet another delusional Pisces without facts.
I'm not that well versed in chart terminology/aspects so I'm using the wrong terms. My sun is pisces and my moon is libra.
Now let's see if you're another defensive cancer who can't stand being called out ... At least I'm being honest with myself.


Gather your facts and you won’t be corrected. I saw that you were a Pisces sun and Libra moon already, it takes seconds to go to a profile to read that. What exactly are you going on about Cancer for? I am not a Cancer.

Pisces are so damn delusional. It’s like having a conversation with a child. For all I know, you could be confronting your man in your head and none of this is a reality. I can’t believe a delusional Pisces, you all make up lies.


If she has interceptions in her chart and the house Libra and or/Pisces are wide houses, they could be square by degrees

OP, you comfortable enough to post your chart?
Thanks for the advice! I have a link to my chart here: https://astro-charts.com/chart/126acc000/
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So just like I said, you don’t have sun square moon. Not sure why I was quoted when I was right.
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Mental level as in intelligence?
Yes, intelligence, but it goes beyond just text book smarts. I'm also talking about organizational abilities and an understanding of human psychology.
Most men aren't as detailed oriented as women. And if they are they most likely have the ocd.

Libra moon doesn't like confrontation. But its irking you so you want him to confront her for you.

Just let it go.

Or slash her tires. Your call
i figured out why leo moons and libra moons get along

we will slash the tires for them

and think about the repercussions later
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😂

I’d be out there with a can of spray paint marking off her side of the driveway.

Park your ass inside the lines bish
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Posted by LadyNeptune

Mental level as in intelligence?
Yes, intelligence, but it goes beyond just text book smarts. I'm also talking about organizational abilities and an understanding of human psychology.


Just let it go.




Or slash her tires. Your call
The Aries Moon way. 😂🤣😂
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Haha well I’d call her out first. Maybe leave some notes on her windshield.

Be petty and call a tow truck if she keeps monopolizing the driveway.

And if all of that doesn’t work I’d surrender and give her the driveway. Slash her tires to let her car live there full time 😂
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Posted by stillstillwater

Yes 100% regarding the mental stimulation. I cannot be with anyone who I can't have discussions with... and if i end up in such relationships it makes me really bitter Sad

"Do any libra moons feel that if their partner is not evenly matched to them, they will do things to undermine their partner and their relationship?"

- Can you give examples of what you mean?
For example, I get frustrated with my partner if I think someone is taking advantage of him and he does nothing to address the person or fight back. We have a shared driveway with the neighbor next door, and she is always parking her car in the driveway like she owns it. My fiance owns his house, and the neighbor is a renter. I think it's ridiculous that he's a property owner and this woman is using the driveway 99% of the time. Again, an issue with reciprocity.

I asked him why he doesn't address this issue with her and he says he doesn't want to cause any waves or ill will. Parking is very hard to find on his street and this woman is too lazy to give up the driveway. It pisses me off that he won't speak to her and I start questioning his ability to run a household. I'll say this to his face and then he feels offended and undermined.
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Oh ok. Now I understand better what you mean...

And yes I have had this issue a lot but overtime i've learned that we all have our strengths and weaknesses as well as areas of intelligence. There is such thing as EQ... but ultimately I would want a partner who doesn't let anyone take advantage of them. I'm not into the "selfless martyrdom" types. That annoys me too.
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For example, I get frustrated with my partner if I think someone is taking advantage of him and he does nothing to address the person or fight back. We have a shared driveway with the neighbor next door, and she is always parking her car in the driveway like she owns it. My fiance owns his house, and the neighbor is a renter. I think it's ridiculous that he's a property owner and this woman is using the driveway 99% of the time. Again, an issue with reciprocity.

I asked him why he doesn't address this issue with her and he says he doesn't want to cause any waves or ill will. Parking is very hard to find on his street and this woman is too lazy to give up the driveway. It pisses me off that he won't speak to her and I start questioning his ability to run a household. I'll say this to his face and then he feels offended and undermined.
In this situation, I understand your frustration. It's the "unfairness" of it that bothers you. But here is the thing you have to try and also understand, is that if he isn't bothered by it, and he found his own solution for himself, then you really shouldn't be so confrontational about it. After all, it is only a parking spot. Correlating how he runs a household, cannot be compared with that. Focus on how he makes you feel as a partner, not how he handles his renter. Some things are worth fighting for, and other things are trivial in the grand scheme of life.

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Libra moons „live and love“ „harmony“! They‘d rather not speak up about sometimes little but important stuff (like you mentioned) to avoid possile conflict. Although it might not get bad afterall, just speaking up in a calm mature way. But in their heads worst case scenarios play already! I know that from my cap 😂 most times I handle such things with my cap moon and tell him „see? Wasn‘t that bad afterall“
Not related to libra moons but I notice the same patterns with most swiss people. They‘d rather nag and whine about stuff like the parking situation than going to that person and talk it out. Too exhausting for my cap placements and german mentality