Man two different Libra men and I absolutely cannot

My first Libra I dated for 4 years extremely faithful and loving towards me but he was a total mess with other people. He would play people and start drama like crazy. I had enough and left him. However, he was always truthful and loving and spent a ton of time with me. That’s why it lasted so long despite his mess.

Now I met a new Libra guy, 6 months ago. He came on strong but of course a player to say the least. We spent a ton of time together and really have a great time. He is supportive and so am I in other aspects of each other lives but he doesn’t want a relationship with me. Lol.

Now I have NEVER asked this man out, invited him anywhere, I NEVER went out my way to get to him. I don’t ask him to come see me. I don’t ask for anything he does or the time he spends which I see him 25 days out the month spending the night and plenty of dates and recently a getaway of town for his birthday. In between he has dated other women. No biggie, we are NOT together. It bothered me lowkey but I never showed it. Recently he tells our mutual friend about another one of his new interest and says how he doesn’t want anything to do with me. However, he was at my house the night before when I asked him to go home he refused. Anywho, the toxic crap was present to me the past two weeks. One time he was so critical and condescending I told him I needed a break. Didn’t talk to him for 3 days. This man stalked me and tried to fight me for 3 days. After the conversation with our mutual friend, I confronted him about what he said - because he never actually said it so clearly before. He was upset and laughed at me continuously. I barely called him or texted him first throughout our situation so I did not reach out AT ALL after the statements made. I said, Awesome. I wish you well with this woman you want to pursue and no hard feelings although I wish he would have been direct with me. Cool.

So after that, he calls continuously to taunt me. He begged me not to block him and let’s talk about it. Tried it and the conversations were blowing my mind. He swears I am crazy and I don’t want to see him with nobody else but me. I said if that was true, I would have cried, called, text, begged to talk to you. I went out with my homegirls last night, he followed me to club. He threatened me that I cannot refuse or decline him. He ALLOWED me to disrespect him for two days and he doesn’t play that. I am not going anywhere. He let me think that but I am not. But he clearly established he doesn’t want me. So I blocked him on all phones and accounts for no contact. He pop up I am calling the police.

I am just puzzled 😕. WTH is this?!? Libras are cool calm and collected. Fair and Of Good Judgement. Poised and easy going. This here is insanity. Why if you said you don’t want someone and they wish you well will it cause you to do become crazy? I know I will have to deal with some crazy stalking but he is also aggressive, so police may get involved. Has anyone ever experienced anything like this with a Libra? I heard they have dark sides but not like this.

Since we do have mutual friends at some point we will have to be cordial as well. What is a good way to walk away from a Libra who acts like this? What did I trigger? He is a cool dude outside of this and have a lot of potential to be awesome. No one really sees this side of him. Our mutual friends are now aware of course but not all of them. We got together last night puzzled on how to handle it. Everyone doesn’t want to X him out because of me and Him. But still... this is insane.

there are indeed more details to the story I am leaving out to illustrate his insanity - I can say he is definitely abusive physically and emotionally on his dark side as well. He is a smiley fun personable individual that a ton of people love to be around. Trust me, he does not come off this way unless somehow triggered which took time to come out but it did. Within the past two weeks. I am done but two different versions I didn’t even think he had a heart like that at all.

Posted by mudra_

Just stay tf away from this situation. Wherever he is, don't go. Sorry, I'm just tired of the bs and won't tolerate it anymore. People who drain tf out of my energy (outside of family I'm stuck with) are not welcome to stay in my mind, heart or soul.

Set boundaries for yourself. Common friends or not.

Real talk. I had a conversation last night. Our mutual friends gained insight of who he really was last night because that fake persona he use to put on for all of us. He begged me to keep the rest the stuff hidden but of course I did not. Why? So you can walk around being toxic and make it seem like the women are nutty?

I blasted it. It just blew my mind. I’m like whoa - this is NOT the guy I knew at all. I am reflecting like dang, what did I miss in this charmer (Libras are charmers) that I didn’t see he would behave this way? I pray for whatever woman he ends up with.

Going forward I need to keep my eyes open more because I would have never imagined. Most men are excited they get to walk away from a situation-ship no headache. Even relationships. I have to be real careful with who people present themselves to be. He was indeed very good at what he does. Even his family has no idea. 🤦🏾‍♀️

Who knows why he's acting out. Could be as simple as not wanting to lose one of his girls he has in rotation. Libras can be charming but also violent. I know I am. You did right by blocking him and if you must get a restraining order do; but do not engage with him again. When Libra men want you they do not play around. They will come out and ask you to be their girl immediately. He is just playing with you. If I were you I wouldn't get involved with anymore Libras. What is your sun sign?

Posted by DonnaLibra

Who knows why he's acting out. Could be as simple as not wanting to lose one of his girls he has in rotation. Libras can be charming but also violent. I know I am. You did right by blocking him and if you must get a restraining order do; but do not engage with him again. When Libra men want you they do not play around. They will come out and ask you to be their girl immediately. He is just playing with you. If I were you I wouldn't get involved with anymore Libras. What is your sun sign?

Aquarius

The longer you allow him to treat you this way, the more power you give him. Continue blocking and no contact, and if he is that agressive, I would take preventative measures and get an order of no contact if you can. Just be safe. None of that is rational. You are allowing him to completely steamroll your feelings.

No one truly gives a fuck about your issues, only some will pretend. In short, you sound dumb and vulnerable.

“This man stalked me and tried to fight me for 3 days.”

Don’t believe this.

“Since we do have mutual friends at some point we will have to be cordial as well.“

If the above I quoted were true you wouldn’t have posted this nonsense. Be cordial with someone who you claim is violent to you. 🤨

“ My first Libra I dated for 4 years extremely faithful and loving towards me but he was a total mess with other people. He would play people and start drama like crazy. I had enough and left him. However, he was always truthful and loving and spent a ton of time with me. That’s why it lasted so long despite his mess. ”

Why was this relevant to the person this is really about? To show that you can leave one situation and not another? What?

“ Recently he tells our mutual friend about another one of his new interest and says how he doesn’t want anything to do with me. However, he was at my house the night before when I asked him to go home he refused. Anywho, the toxic crap was present to me the past two weeks. One time he was so critical and condescending I told him I needed a break. Didn’t talk to him for 3 days.”

All of this happened allegedly and all you do is stop talking to him for three days”.

Where’s your social intelligence in any of these situations? You’re devoid of that and you continued to make bad decisions because you lack good judgment.

“But he clearly established he doesn’t want me. So I blocked him on all phones and accounts for no contact.”

Lmao it takes all of that for you to realize he doesn’t want you THE WAY YOU WANT HIM TO WANT YOU. Poor thing. He probably only wanted your body.

The LACK of details you consciously OMITTED has me giving you the side eye 😒

i think you are well rid of him but moving forward from this, i would pay attention to your boundaries.

the guy had practically moved in while still seeing other women. unless you were looking for a room mate i don't know why you would allow that. on top of that he was physically abusive. you teach people how to treat you. this guy took advantage and then felt entitled.

a lesson learned. next time a guy even thinks about raising a hand to you is the time to show him the door.

For overall clarity:

We started dating in January. Everything was blissful. For a long time. So this isn’t a short term thing. Last time I was in a relationship with a Libra I remember him turning out to be two different people. But that was just the first one. This second guy is truly a peoples person. Funny, fun, adventurous. He has a small business at which I help him run. He also works with a children organization. You will NEVER imagine him being the way he is.

We never made things exclusive. That is fine. So recently he expressed he didn’t want a relationship with me. That is cool. When I say recently, I mean within the last two weeks. I took it at face value. What can I do about that?

I was indeed hurt because we are not talking about casual dating. We are talking about seeing this man 25 days out of the month overnight. Weekend trips. All day calling. The works. So of course I was hurt. I decided to block him. He showed up to my house calm cool and collected and asked me to unblock him. I refused... it got ugly from there. So he roughed me up a bit and started laughing. I said oh your emotions are running high. That’s fine we both are hurt cool. He came by the next day - cool calm collected same thing. He didn’t come around for a few days. He showed up again and asked me for a massage. Something I normally did before he announce he decided he didn’t want me. I refused. He got upset and wanted to fight me again but he didn’t. He said - nah I wouldn’t hurt you like that. I said cool. So then he calls our mutual friend and tell her he didn’t want me and he met someone he wants. She called me and said hey sis are you and guy still hanging because he called me all cold hearted saying he doesn’t want you. Never seen a future with you and blah blah blah. She said I called him about the design for the business cards because I haven’t really spoken with him and was catching up on the last trip. He went into this spill. Did you know about it? I said yes. She went on to tell her how I was only convenient and etc. Which that is what I confronted. We reached out and I said “it’s one thing to say you decided not to move forward but a whole other thing to call our friend and talk about me like a dog being convenient.” He was real nasty sounding and said, aaawww I hurt your feelings. I’m soooo sorry. Poor thing. So I said you know what at this point it’s neither here nor there. I wish you the best. We hung up. A stream of text messages came in being upset “I told” our business. I said she called me and YOU called her and gave her that spill. She felt obligated to say something to me because we all know we were going so well. He rein-enforced his stance about having no interest and it’s my fault if I am hurt. I said ok cool. Have a good life.

So the next morning he called I ignored him he texted me and said good morning bae. I asked him to leave me alone. He said awww you don’t want me. I thought you said you love me. I said yeah but that doesn’t matter. Leave me to heal. He said ok. Nothing. Hours later. He text me hi and a string of messages saying you’re the bestest. I asked him to leave me alone because he knew I was hurt and now he taunting me. This was yesterday. Right before we head out to the club last night, he calls me and asked me where I am. Now a couple of times in the good days he did “stalk me”. Park somewhere near my home and watch my moves. But it always jokey. I wasn’t doing anything so it didn’t matter to me. Wasn’t sweating it. He called me and asked me what are you doing I want to see you. I said no there is no point. He said haha ok. I was coming to give you that much needed hug needed since your feelings all hurt. I said I don’t need a hug. he texted me saying he see on the main road by the club which I assume he followed me from my house because I never really go anywhere. How else would he know where I am. So he says - don’t walk in that club or I will come off up in there. Come give me a hug. I said mmmmaaannn stop playing with me. Go focus on the woman you said you wanted to be with. Shift focus. He said nope - I am focusing right here right now. Haha. Let me talk to you. I said no. He pulled up next to me on the street. He rolled down the window and said let me talk to you... I only want to talk to you. I said you just said you only wanted to see me and you see me. He went on a tangent. The way the street is, you can pull up next to clubs which he did and hopped out and said don’t play with me. My homegirls was ready to fight because we do fight - honestly. I told him let me talk to him and they said ok but we watching. He asked me to ride with him to properly park his car. I knew he was lying. I said I will walk over to the parking lot and you can park and we can get out and talk. He got out and forced a hug but he gripped me around my arms. Like folding me and really spoke in my ear saying - you disrespected me for two days in a row now I don’t tolerate disrespect and you about to see the real me in a minute you keep playing me. I said all I did was decline you seeing me. He said nobody declines me. He went on how nobody better not touch me. I better not allow no man up on me. Then He snapped back He really never had any intentions to hurt me really. I have to understand where he coming from. I said I do and I respect that. He said no you being tough. You don’t have to be so tough. Lol I dunno what that means... I was suppose to be crying and falling all over him deciding not to be with me. Then he said I gotta stop telling all of our business. Which I do do. I mean I just talk about our trips and date nights. We had maybe two or three minor disagreements since I know him and trust me minor like my driving or a different perspective on a common interest. Which I would include our friends. It was harmless to me but ok whatever.

Anywho long story short - he ruffled me up a little bit more when he realized I was really going to go party based off the statement I made of finally having some fun with MY homegirls (our non mutual friends). He then said oh I’m coming in and spending $ 100 on drinks. It’s looks fun out here tonight. You want me to come in. I said No it’s our much needed girls night. He said ok I will let you have it then. But you belong to me and you not going anywhere. I don’t care what conversations we had. But he was referring to sex really. He laughed a lot.

Well he let me gone on once his phone rung. I walked in the club confused about what just happened. This past two weeks have been nothing but confusing. I blocked him immediately on all channels. I called the same mutual friend. Told her everything that happened. Like what did he actually think I would do? She was indeed in shock about him popping up to the club. This is really not in his character. A few more of our friends were called as well because it was weird. I don’t know if he already was crazy or he lost his mind recently because he is in a custody battle for his daughter and haven’t seen her in over a month. He did make a statement recently that his ex wife playing with him and she know better. He is real strategic. Either way he is definitely now a danger to me. Which we are all surprised about. He was awesome up until these past two weeks. Don’t know what happened. It’s really mind blowing because I see a monster now but he was never that.

That’s why I asked if anyone experienced this total shift with a Libra before.

Also want to say we were always lost on why such an amazing dude was single and his ex wife hated him but she does come off a little bit angry and bitter. He cheated on her once (at least that is what he says) and she never forgave him. But I am starting to see her anger and bitterness is probably what he created. All fresh to us.

My first dude has two different versions of him. One person in the home and a whole other person with others. So I am assuming the person we seen initially consistently is his representative and who I am meeting is the other side of him when you become his lover. I don’t know.

What’s his moon and venus sign?

Posted by Biboroon

What’s his moon and venus sign?

Just looked it up:

Sun Libra 6°13'

Moon Leo 15°41'

Mercury Libra 23°37'

Venus Scorpio 15°57'

Mars Capricorn 25°08'

Jupiter Pisces 15°29' R

Saturn Sagittarius 5°17'

Uranus Sagittarius 18°49'

Neptune Capricorn 3°07'

Pluto Scorpio 6°05'

Lilith Gemini 23°57'

N Node Aries 20°45'

Honestly you need to know what your boundaries are and enforce them

On your other thread you indicated that he wanted a relationship in the beginning, but you declined because you thought he was a player.

You then proceeded to go into a fwb relationship with him and allowed him to be possessive over you. Basically telling you that you can’t date other men, etc. etc.

I’m guessing you made the error in assuming he would rise to the occasion and prove to you that he wasn’t a player 🤦🏻‍♀️. MEN DON’T DO HONORABLE SHIT LIKE THAT. Instead You triggered his ego from the beginning and he has resentment towards you. That’s the issue.

He’s now continuously paying you back for fuking with his ego continuously.

The combination of him being a Libra sun/Scorp venus and recently getting a divorce isn’t working in your favor.

He wants to sew his oats and hold on to you at the same time and All you do is bluff about what you’re capable of doing.

Honestly you are going to have to risk whatever harm he may cause you and cut him off. He’s already done the worst of everything......You have nothing to lose, except the money you two are making together. Be done with him and get another man.

And again as many in this thread have said, have boundaries. Figure out what they are and enforce them.

Just a tip, Aquas aren’t emotionally bothered by a lot of things that others are initially, so you need to base certain boundaries off of principles.

Posted by STILL

Yo honestly you need to know what your boundaries are and enforce them mutherfukers

On your other thread you indicated that he wanted a relationship in the beginning, but you declined because you thought he was a player.

You then proceeded to go into a fwb relationship with him and allowed him to be possessive over you. Basically telling you that you can’t date other men, etc. etc.

I’m guessing you made the error in assuming he would rise to the occasion and prove to you that he wasn’t a player 🤦🏽‍♀️. MEN DON’T DO HONORABLE SHIT LIKE THAT. Instead You triggered his ego from the beginning and he has resentment towards you. That’s the issue.

He’s now continuously paying you back for fuking with his ego continuously.

The combination of him being a Libra sun/Scorp venus and recently getting a divorce isn’t working in your favor.

He wants to sew his oats and hold on to you at the same time and All you do is bluff about what you’re capable of doing.

Honestly you are going to have to risk whatever harm he may cause you and cut him off. He’s already done the worst of everything......You have nothing to lose, except the money you two are making together. Be done with him and get another man.

And again as many in this thread have said, have boundaries. Figure out what they are and enforce them.

Just a tip, Aquas aren’t emotionally bothered by a lot of things that others are initially, so you need to base certain boundaries off of principles.

True we are not. I am not tripping too much about this Libra. I was definitely fascinated with him up until these past two weeks. Or shall say infatuated because he is pretty cool. Just was trying to make sense of wth happened. He totally flipped the script. Thanks for the clarity. I didn’t realize how impacted he was by the whole fwb situation had he expressed himself sooner... eeehhh... maybe. Oh well.

He found a way to contact me and we revisited the whole situation. I wished him well again. He apologized and agreed that he was overreacting in that regards of coming at me the way he did. He said he will have a hard time not talking to me but definitely agree moving forward is needed and wish me well. I’m sure his actions took a lot of ego as well. He won’t be chasing me anymore I am sure. He would look foolish.

Regardless, He is still blocked and will be off my brain completely in less than 48 hours. Life goes on.

I already decided to date someone else... a Gemini. He been bugging me for a chance for the entire year when I do answer my phone for him. guess I will be on the Gemini forum when he start to swing moods. We’ve known each other for years. He pretty damn cool. I will see where this goes.

Thanks everyone.