Mirror, mirror on the wall...

This topic was created in the Libra forum by WaterCup on Thursday, March 21, 2013 and has 40 replies.
House of beauty residents, how much do you love beautiful things and people?
Plus, do you date/befriend people based on looks?
I noticed that its common for librans to say things related to ones looks than anything else.
Yesterday this libran friend of mine called me up, we havent seen each other in a while & we were doing a lot of catching up. During our phone conversation, she asked me if I was still pretty LOL & I thought 'what does that have to do with anything?". I wasnt too surprised because the libra guy friend of mine is the same, he says things like 'I'm getting old, but you dont change. People probably wonder, what is *she* doing with *him?'
So, it seems as if, to me, that you guys like this kind of stuff...nice looking people. But correct me if I'm wrong.
I think YOUR ............
Posted by NotYourAverageAquarius
I think YOUR ............


what? Plus, i wanna know how to make a 'toothy' smiley, how to make one?smile
Posted by tiziani
Who is the fairest Water Cup of them all?
(Mirror reflects back a kettle)
WaterCup:WHATT???? THIS IS AN OUTRAGE

Non politically correct version of how to answer this thread: Looks do influence me and case in point was how everyone uploading their best-foot-forward pictures into their avis a few days ago had me thrilled at how generally sexy and stylish the entire DXP is.


fix that mirror immediately! how dare you call me a kettle!? I'm a cup, a dainty china Tongue
So, looks influence you, huh? But is it all you guys see or other factors count too? By other factors I mean, an abnormally huge brain, like mine Tongue. Lol. I'm really curious thou because it seems as if to librans beauty its where its at. Have you ever been with an ugly chick? If yes, did you feel as if something was missing?
toothy smile was told to you in another thread WC
Big Grin = :+D or : D without the space so colon with a capital D
Posted by NotYourAverageAquarius
toothy smile was told to you in another thread WC
Big Grin = :+D or : D without the space so colon with a capital D


i didnt see it. Ok, let me try this
Big Grin
Posted by tiziani
I'll give you an answer that you'll call bs on but it's my truthful answer anyway.
The thing about Libras (and me specifically) is that we don't really see ugliness other than the ugliness people do to themselves. When I first started seeing my ex for the first time, she was beautiful. When she stopped taking care of herself and become too comfortable, I felt she became ugly but not just in looks also in character for giving up on herself and not taking pride. When she started doing coke and all sorts of other stuff just to avoid dealing with her unhappiness, she TRULY became ugly because it was a waste of beauty.
I think if you want to understand Libras maybe think that we don't actually believe in the saying "beauty is only skin deep". We believe that if something is pretty on the outside then it must be on the inside too, and vice versa.
If you think about it, in one way that makes us superficial as hell because we're attracted to shiny things and assume that because they're shiny then they must have it all together on the inside and they'll never let us down.
But we do get let down. And i think that helps us get our prorities straight and start to look first deeper for what's on the inside and see if it really matches up to what we love on the surface. But ultimately we believe the beauty in is a reflection of out, and vice versa.


Thanks & your post does make some sense. So in other words, you do admit that outer beauty is what attracts you to a person? And the moment it changes or fades, then you start to see faults in the person or the relationship... am I getting that right?
Posted by everevolvingepithet
The thing about Libras (and me specifically) is that we don't really see ugliness other than the ugliness people do to themselves.


I think it's as much that we stick around while the ugliness comes to the fore and exposes itself as it is being naive and blind to it.
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I'm sorry, but something disturbs me about this post. What I'm hearing is, you guys get into a relationship thinking a person is perfect & when you realise that they arent then its 'ugliness coming to the surface'. How is it the other person's fault if you are delusional?
Posted by everevolvingepithet
No, not perfect, far from that haha, and it isn't delusional, it's more a case of the others manipulations and machinations.smile


please explain what you mean by 'manipulations & machinations' because to me it translates to 'you fooled me, *I* thought you were this & that, but you arent, so its your fault' Its like you are putting blame on the other person for YOUR mistakes. I think the reason why people find librans so confusing is because of this. You guys go all in at 1st & thinking the person if perfect, but when the smoke clears you pull back feeling duped because its not what you expected, not realising that YOU are your own 'duper'. Do you think you are being FAIR when you pull stunts like that? Life is not all smoke and mirrors, you know
Posted by everevolvingepithet
lol@delusional, you can be a funny one sometimes, WC.smile


Big Grin why, thank you
Posted by tiziani
Yeah you have it right in a sense WC. Personally I think I've put in a decent amount of spiritual work to avoid that but I think that is part of our nature to see faults only with time. And I do not think it's delusional to admit this is part of our nature to be that childishly naive. After all, self-awareness and humility saves anyone from delusion. I don't think either I or Bling are blaming anyone else at all for our responsibility in the equation. It's just a part of our makeup and hopefully we wise up and learn how to handle it. And also find other people who can accept it for what it is and, like Bling says, not make the mistake of thinking we're a soft touch for being open about it.


nah, that's ok, Tizzy...I understand.
Posted by everevolvingepithet
A perfectionist!


who needs a few tweaks himself Tongue
See thats what I dont get about 'perfectionists', they expect other people to be perfect, but they themselves are full of imperfections.
Posted by tiziani
I'd definitely agree there's no smoke, but you'll never get it through a Libra's head there's no mirrors. The House of Libra is the House of Mirrors. Because of that like Bling said we like idiosynchrosies and the perfectionism becomes an ugly word to us.


do you guys ever take a look at yourselves in those mirrors? I cant help to sense that librans think they are perfect, just like virgos. Residual perfectionalism much?
Posted by everevolvingepithet
I was saying you were the perfectionist wc, not I. I'm far too feral for that .smile


perfect answer LOL
No really thou, I like flaws cause I'm full of them myself, but I wish for a perfect union made up of two 'imperfects' joined together...if that's even possible
Posted by tiziani
We're not perfectionists at all when we grow up. Most of that is because we remember the reflection of when we were younger and thought we were perfect or just too big to admit our flaws. It's not a nice memory to be honest. That's why we like to see humanity and all it's flaws reflected back at us when we're a little further along.

Can I ask you WC if you feel you have opened up to, consistently admitted or reflected any of what you feel are your personal flaws in front of your Libra? Or has it just been too offensive/defensive in your time together for that?


No. I'm very easy to read because I never hide my true self to anybody, so he knows exactly what he is getting into. Once he told me I was full of shit, but he likes it. I swear, librans are suckers for punishment. You guys like women who rattle your scales more than those who keep you balance. The libra guy used to date a virgo girl, about 2 or 3 years ago & he was bored because 'she didnt fight'. Wtf? Do you like get a sick kick when people fight with you? Its unbelievable
I asked an indirect Q, Tiz...do libran men go hard for crazies or what? Cause I swear it looks that way. You all like tough love so it seems. One good ass kicking to balance two buttcrack kisses Winking I used to do soccer so I'm a libran man's dream girl, strong legs right here Tongue
Venus girls seem to be the same too, they like 'unsavoury' men. My libran friend, the girl I mentioned earlier, is married to a gemini guy. He is so rude its unbelievable that she married him. He used to call her 'fatty' all the time, yet she still remains with him. I remember one day we were watching the Simpson's together, Homer was on a road trip & he sent Madge a postcard with a beautiful sexy woman on it and he scribbled ' I wish you were her' instead of ' I wish you were here'. Homer is illiterate but gem dude thought it was hilarious because he saw it as Homer taking at dig at his wife Madge. Idiot.
Posted by tiziani
I'd say that's about right WC smile Hard love (on occassion without being a bitch) helps win our respect. Iron fist behind the velvet glove, and all that.


what behavior = bitch to your libra mind?
I am a Libra, and I admit, I date beautiful people on the outside, but once they show me how ugly they can be I toss them in a Heart Beat, always Lessons to be learned but I`m not good at finding those lessons sometimes, so its one beautiful creature after another for me...
Posted by jessgoogoo
I am a Libra, and I admit, I date beautiful people on the outside, but once they show me how ugly they can be I toss them in a Heart Beat, always Lessons to be learned but I`m not good at finding those lessons sometimes, so its one beautiful creature after another for me...


your post reminds me of lyrics to a song, I forgot who sings it or its title
'if you wanna be happy for the rest of your life, never make a pretty woman your wife...ask an ugly girl to marry you'
For some reason I am seeing Cher with this song hahah, but yes thats me in Love with Beauty itself...even if I know all beautiful things erode, rust, or fade...
Posted by WaterCup
So, looks influence you, huh? But is it all you guys see or other factors count too? By other factors I mean, an abnormally huge brain, like mine Tongue. Lol. I'm really curious thou because it seems as if to librans beauty its where its at. Have you ever been with an ugly chick? If yes, did you feel as if something was missing?


Looks influence me as well. So do many other things. No amount of beauty is gonna make me ignore everything else, but by the same token if a woman was perfect for me in everything except I wasn't physically attracted, I couldn't do it. I have tried before and it just don't work. Now, having said that... beauty is in the eye of the beer holder... I mean beholder. I don't have like a list or anything and have dated people of various races, body sizes, face structure... I just need to find her attractive to me.
This doesn't mean "Beauty is where it's at" though... there's several deal breakers for me, this is just one of them. Being a crackhead is another, being sad and negative all the time, even listing "man of god" in your requirements would tell me it ain't gonna work. I want someone who is smart, fun(ny), pretty, open and honest, etc.
This isn't just libras or even just men, even though male libras may be the worst. Women do it too, that's where the friend zone comes from. People who are great friends and could probably make a great relationship you just don't want them like that. Same thing really.
Posted by tiziani
The beer holder haha


you stole my 'haha' moment, but it doesnt matter cause who 'hahas' last, hahas the best, so ha.ha @ beer holder & I agree with you libraSid
To 'he who dates beauties', sorry babes I need to get used to your name, the song is sung by Dr Victor & you should see the video LOL, 'ugly girl' has rabbit teeth
Posted by WaterCup
Posted by everevolvingepithet
No, not perfect, far from that haha, and it isn't delusional, it's more a case of the others manipulations and machinations.smile


please explain what you mean by 'manipulations & machinations' because to me it translates to 'you fooled me, *I* thought you were this & that, but you arent, so its your fault' Its like you are putting blame on the other person for YOUR mistakes. I think the reason why people find librans so confusing is because of this. You guys go all in at 1st & thinking the person if perfect, but when the smoke clears you pull back feeling duped because its not what you expected, not realising that YOU are your own 'duper'. Do you think you are being FAIR when you pull stunts like that? Life is not all smoke and mirrors, you know
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I go in expecting them to be a decent person, that's it. I have hopes for more, sure... but the only time I feel like someone fooled because of my naievity was when I was too trusting or honest. So yes, I have been shocked, hurt, offended whatever when my false assumptions about a person come to light but not because I found out you wear contatcs and your eyes are brown not blue... personal character stuff that I think should be basic human decency..
I worked for a doctor for a bit...my God that man was goodlooking. All I could do the first week was stare at him. By the end of the second week, he was the ugliest man I know. So mean, abrasive, demanding, conceited and full of himself. The day I walked into his office to apply for the job, he did a double take and an "OHHHHH" when he saw me, hired me on the spot....don't think he felt that way by the time I told him I disliked him as much as he disliked me and I quit.
So yes...I do notice looks first, I believe most people do, but how a person conducts him or herself after the initial attraction is what holds me to that person.
On the flip side...when I meet someone I'm not physically attracted too but get to know for the person, their inner beauty shines thru and completely changes the way their physical appearance comes across. I then began to notice how nice their smile is, or their eyes, etc. And that makes the person.
Is that shallow of me? No I don't believe it is. Libras love beauty in all forms and I appreciate all the beautiful things ...and people...God made.
But...true to my Libra self...I do like a goodlooking man on my arm and I like to look good for my man. If I find him handsome and the chemistry is there, then I don't give a hoot who else finds him attractive or ugly.
I think librans are attracted to beauty in any form it takes. Yes, i'm known for talking shit about ugly motherfuckers, especially those hollyweirds that we are all supposed to find ravishing. I'm like "Um.. Where the fuck are your eyes at, that ho is fugly like chocolate is brown!" But though we can be lead by physical beauty in something or someone, I find that librans are first to be affected by the inner beauty of a person, or lack thereof. Unlike other signs that are better at accepting people's inner inperfections, as soon as we see someone with "Ugly" personality traits, that person no longer is beautiful to us, regardless of the physical.
Interesting post Tiz & I read it somewhere that libra men are into feminine women, what about tomboys? I'm a sheman to the core & I dont do dresses, heels...the girly stuff. I like to feel free and uncluttered in the way I look.
I really don't think it's about looking like a tomboy, it truely is about how you carry yourself. The way you walk, speak, graceful gestures and such. I NEVER wear heels or skirts, dresses, FUCK that. Not even make-up, hell, I'm the only female I know who can get ready and out in 20-30 mins flat. But guys I think are still attracted to the feminine way I carry myself, that I can't help. I wear fitted t-shirts and fitted jeans, which show off my shape, but i'm always in my converse. I wear my hair up because it's no-fuss, I hate having hair in my face, but I had a guy tell me that keeping my hair up made me look more graceful because I have a long neck. I guess a woman who exudes femininity will always come across as "Girly" to men no matter how she is dressed. Besides, most of these crazy, 5 inch heels make women stomp mad frankinstein-like.
Lol you are funny and I see what you are saying, but I'm also NOT graceful...at least to myself. I still get you thou, maybe I exude something else other than feminity Winking
Posted by WaterCup
Lol you are funny and I see what you are saying, but I'm also NOT graceful...at least to myself. I still get you thou, maybe I exude something else other than feminity Winking


Maybe it's confidence. Probably if you have aries on your ascendant. When women walk with confidence, like she knows she's the shit, men always stop DEAD in their tracks. I don't think I exude confidence, but I'll switch my hips down a sidewalk in my converse like I'm a supermodel. because I love converse THAT much. Winking
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Posted by MissFury91
I really don't think it's about looking like a tomboy, it truely is about how you carry yourself. The way you walk, speak, graceful gestures and such. I NEVER wear heels or skirts, dresses, FUCK that. Not even make-up, hell, I'm the only female I know who can get ready and out in 20-30 mins flat. But guys I think are still attracted to the feminine way I carry myself, that I can't help. I wear fitted t-shirts and fitted jeans, which show off my shape, but i'm always in my converse. I wear my hair up because it's no-fuss, I hate having hair in my face, but I had a guy tell me that keeping my hair up made me look more graceful because I have a long neck. I guess a woman who exudes femininity will always come across as "Girly" to men no matter how she is dressed. Besides, most of these crazy, 5 inch heels make women stomp mad frankinstein-like.


This.
I know a Pisces I dated one who is the head of her own fashion design house and yet she has the mentality of a tomboy.
I've dated a tomboy.
When it's a tomboy looking uncomfortable in dress clothing, that's equally as awkward as a princess looking uncomfortable in tomboy clothing.
It really is about just outfitting yourself in the way where you carry yourself with confidence and some backbone. The rest shines through.
But I DO prefer dress Tongue
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a dress, huh? Of your own? Tongue
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Posted by WaterCup
Lol you are funny and I see what you are saying, but I'm also NOT graceful...at least to myself. I still get you thou, maybe I exude something else other than feminity Winking


Maybe it's confidence. Probably if you have aries on your ascendant. When women walk with confidence, like she knows she's the shit, men always stop DEAD in their tracks. I don't think I exude confidence, but I'll switch my hips down a sidewalk in my converse like I'm a supermodel. because I love converse THAT much. Winking
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lol. I think I like you
Come on, chucks go with everything! No one can wear shoes all the time. But they look silly with skinny jeans, I stay in bootcut only.
Posted by tiziani
Tongue


i knew that 'girl' I saw with an adam's apple was youTongue You make a mini look good, I'm jells LOL
Adriana is absolutely adorable, but she has NO shape. I kinda thought she would get curves after the baby, but I suppose she has more than these anorexic looking girls in Victoria's Secret these days. She is one of my favorite models.
Posted by tiziani
Wel jel!
"Tiziana" on weekends!


for some reason I read 'tiziana' as tarzan, but its close enough, i guess, because both wear leopard print dresses
I'm ashamed to say this but if I don't feel like I can be proud to be seen with someone, I just cannot date them. No amount of smarts or charm will change that. Sounds shallow and it is. I obsess over my looks and others too. If I have a day where I don't feel I look good, it ruins my entire day. I also have a lot of Virgo in my chart and this makes me overly critical about myself especially.
WC, lemme spell it out because a libra male will just pile on the excuses. Libra is an insecure and superficial sign with a sense of entitlement. They want the best of the best in terms of looks, not because that person's physical beauty is indicative of their inner beauty for that is the most preposterous excuse/reason to be given. I think even a 14 yr old kid realizes beauty is skin deep. The real issue is how that beautiful arm candy reflects on them. Let's face it, beautiful ppl are more likely to be helped first, hired at work and many other advantages. If you ever had a super hot bf, I don't mean just beautiful to you, I mean that most of the surrounding ppl thought he was cute, it would make you feel better about yourself that this hottie is yours. Sometimes people think they are good looking by default because they were able to snatch a hottie. Basically, it's all about the increased sense of worth they derive from having a hot partner. Example to follow shortly...
Posted by aquarius09
WC, lemme spell it out because a libra male will just pile on the excuses. Libra is an insecure and superficial sign with a sense of entitlement. They want the best of the best in terms of looks, not because that person's physical beauty is indicative of their inner beauty for that is the most preposterous excuse/reason to be given. I think even a 14 yr old kid realizes beauty is skin deep. The real issue is how that beautiful arm candy reflects on them. Let's face it, beautiful ppl are more likely to be helped first, hired at work and many other advantages. If you ever had a super hot bf, I don't mean just beautiful to you, I mean that most of the surrounding ppl thought he was cute, it would make you feel better about yourself that this hottie is yours. Sometimes people think they are good looking by default because they were able to snatch a hottie. Basically, it's all about the increased sense of worth they derive from having a hot partner. Example to follow shortly...


hey you! I'm so over this thread lol, even your comment can't make me 'recare'. How are you!? I missed you smile

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