pisces woman /libra man...wtf..

Posted by tcta
what did you say when he said that you were not long term - that he still wanted to screw other people ?

Posted by Cancer Lady

Posted by tcta
what did you say when he said that you were not long term - that he still wanted to screw other people ?

She's still sleeping with him so that says it all. He doesn't respect her because he sees she doesn't respect herself as if she did, she would have not continued to sleep with him after he told her that. No self respecting women would agree to being in rotation with other women.

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Posted by boxcarmirnta
We connected instantly...he was extremely consistent, more than any men ever had been. Incredibly sweet and giving and generous. We both love art and music and gel really well and have great sex. Then he tells me he's not long term for me and still wants to screw other people. And he'd recently told a friend he was most definitely involved with me. So my question is...wtf is the point of being so persistent, consistent, always there, always caring, always generous, always wanting to be with me...WHEN HE HAS NO DESIRE TO ACTUALLY BE INVOLVED? Is this a typical Libra thing? I'm gonna kick him to the curb soon. I'm.just curious about this extremely bizarre behavio, and would love insight. .what a mindfuck.

Posted by Cancer Lady
Well continue to give him sex until he drops you for someone that can stimulate him not only physically but mentally as well.

Posted by SeaGoddess

Posted by boxcarmirnta
We connected instantly...he was extremely consistent, more than any men ever had been. Incredibly sweet and giving and generous. We both love art and music and gel really well and have great sex. Then he tells me he's not long term for me and still wants to screw other people. And he'd recently told a friend he was most definitely involved with me. So my question is...wtf is the point of being so persistent, consistent, always there, always caring, always generous, always wanting to be with me...WHEN HE HAS NO DESIRE TO ACTUALLY BE INVOLVED? Is this a typical Libra thing? I'm gonna kick him to the curb soon. I'm.just curious about this extremely bizarre behavio, and would love insight. .what a mindfuck.

As a fellow pisces who just went through some similar shit with a libra my advice to you is

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Posted by SeaGoddess

Posted by boxcarmirnta
We connected instantly...he was extremely consistent, more than any men ever had been. Incredibly sweet and giving and generous. We both love art and music and gel really well and have great sex. Then he tells me he's not long term for me and still wants to screw other people. And he'd recently told a friend he was most definitely involved with me. So my question is...wtf is the point of being so persistent, consistent, always there, always caring, always generous, always wanting to be with me...WHEN HE HAS NO DESIRE TO ACTUALLY BE INVOLVED? Is this a typical Libra thing? I'm gonna kick him to the curb soon. I'm.just curious about this extremely bizarre behavio, and would love insight. .what a mindfuck.

As a fellow pisces who just went through some similar shit with a libra my advice to you is

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Posted by tiziani

Posted by boxcarmirnta
This thing needs to be read in its entirety to understand every nuance. I try to respond to everyone's posts. I want insight into HIS behavior not mine. We are extremely compatible and talk about EVERYTHING. Not just art and music and no its not just sex. And he's not bored with me he continues to talk to me EVERY day...every day which is why I dont understand HIS behavior. He is clearly very into me....and if hes VERY into me...why say he does not want a relationship. I've already half checked out at this point...cuz I can no longer expect anything long term..but he just keeps on coming...pun intended.

We can only give insight on what you've said. Anything else would be bullshitting you.

You said you're waiting for him to figure out that you are enough for him.

That's not a reason for me, as a Libra Man, to fall in live or commit long term.

When I commit to a woman, I fall in live with how she makes me feel like I can be the ideal man in her company, for her.

If it's only that she's the ideal woman for me, that's great for her and a compliment to her ego. She might fall in love with me. But it does nothing for my ego or my ideals long term.

So frankly the question of whether or not you're woman enough for him is relevant to you. Not to him. He will be more interested long term in committing to a woman who makes him see he is the man.

That's the difference between enjoying your time knowing you're attractive to women vs actually enjoying your time committing to her.

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Posted by MlleFisk
He's treating you like one of his homeboys. You know why people are friends? Because they have someone they can connect with and not have any expectations. You know.. it's nice to have a friend to shoot the shit with... talk about the LA Lakers... what he had for dinner... why Freddy Mercury is one of the best rock vocalist ever... and in addition to all those lovely discussions, he gets his dick wet.

Why ruin a comfortable thing. And "involved" is a very vague description that can be applied to anyone. It sounds more polite than "I'm smashing that."


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Posted by SeaGoddess

Posted by boxcarmirnta
We connected instantly...he was extremely consistent, more than any men ever had been. Incredibly sweet and giving and generous. We both love art and music and gel really well and have great sex. Then he tells me he's not long term for me and still wants to screw other people. And he'd recently told a friend he was most definitely involved with me. So my question is...wtf is the point of being so persistent, consistent, always there, always caring, always generous, always wanting to be with me...WHEN HE HAS NO DESIRE TO ACTUALLY BE INVOLVED? Is this a typical Libra thing? I'm gonna kick him to the curb soon. I'm.just curious about this extremely bizarre behavio, and would love insight. .what a mindfuck.

As a fellow pisces who just went through some similar shit with a libra my advice to you is

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Posted by tiziani

Posted by boxcarmirnta
This thing needs to be read in its entirety to understand every nuance. I try to respond to everyone's posts. I want insight into HIS behavior not mine. We are extremely compatible and talk about EVERYTHING. Not just art and music and no its not just sex. And he's not bored with me he continues to talk to me EVERY day...every day which is why I dont understand HIS behavior. He is clearly very into me....and if hes VERY into me...why say he does not want a relationship. I've already half checked out at this point...cuz I can no longer expect anything long term..but he just keeps on coming...pun intended.

We can only give insight on what you've said. Anything else would be bullshitting you.

You said you're waiting for him to figure out that you are enough for him.

That's not a reason for me, as a Libra Man, to fall in live or commit long term.

When I commit to a woman, I fall in live with how she makes me feel like I can be the ideal man in her company, for her.

If it's only that she's the ideal woman for me, that's great for her and a compliment to her ego. She might fall in love with me. But it does nothing for my ego or my ideals long term.

So frankly the question of whether or not you're woman enough for him is relevant to you. Not to him. He will be more interested long term in committing to a woman who makes him see he is the man.

That's the difference between enjoying your time knowing you're attractive to women vs actually enjoying your time committing to her.

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Posted by Librawoman77

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Posted by boxcarmirnta
We connected instantly...he was extremely consistent, more than any men ever had been. Incredibly sweet and giving and generous. We both love art and music and gel really well and have great sex. Then he tells me he's not long term for me and still wants to screw other people. And he'd recently told a friend he was most definitely involved with me. So my question is...wtf is the point of being so persistent, consistent, always there, always caring, always generous, always wanting to be with me...WHEN HE HAS NO DESIRE TO ACTUALLY BE INVOLVED? Is this a typical Libra thing? I'm gonna kick him to the curb soon. I'm.just curious about this extremely bizarre behavio, and would love insight. .what a mindfuck.

As a fellow pisces who just went through some similar shit with a libra my advice to you is

LMAO; that's how I feel about Gemini's.

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Posted by Shrewdsharp
You said, " He's Incredibly sweet and giving and generous. We both love art and music and gel really well and have great sex."

His consistency and behavior demonstrates to me that you have attracted a high-caliber man. Good for you, a lot of women haven't been successful with attracting consistency, sweetness, and generosity in a man. So no matter what happens I do think you should give yourself a pat on the back for vibrating on that high level. In addition, He ACTUALLY TOLD YOU! "Then he tells me he's not long term for me and still wants to screw other people." Do you know how refreshing that level of honesty is?

I am not trying to discount your pain, but he sounds like a very good man, but on the other hand, it does seem like he strung you along, i think most people would interpret his behavior as - this man is into me, likes me very much and wants something special. So it does appear he was being somewhat unethical. I get it.

One of the imperfections of many Libras (not all) is our deep fathomless loneliness. We CAN be alone, but since we rule the house of marriage, we are not 'MADE' to be alone. The pain is more unbearable within us, than I believe in any other sign. So God gives us charm; the charm attracts, because the pain girl is unfathomable. This imperfection can cause some Libras, ( not all) to stay in a situation longer than what is morally right. For instance; we may 'know"a situation is not quite right, and instead of responding ethically we may give the impression that everything is okay when in our hearts it's another way...not to hurt you, or play games- contrary to popular opinion.

Posted by lovely77

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Posted by SeaGoddess

Posted by boxcarmirnta
We connected instantly...he was extremely consistent, more than any men ever had been. Incredibly sweet and giving and generous. We both love art and music and gel really well and have great sex. Then he tells me he's not long term for me and still wants to screw other people. And he'd recently told a friend he was most definitely involved with me. So my question is...wtf is the point of being so persistent, consistent, always there, always caring, always generous, always wanting to be with me...WHEN HE HAS NO DESIRE TO ACTUALLY BE INVOLVED? Is this a typical Libra thing? I'm gonna kick him to the curb soon. I'm.just curious about this extremely bizarre behavio, and would love insight. .what a mindfuck.

As a fellow pisces who just went through some similar shit with a libra my advice to you is

LMAO; that's how I feel about Gemini's.

I thought gems and libra r perfect match though. This meme funny. Thats how i feel about women period lol

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Posted by lovely77

Posted by Shrewdsharp
You said, " He's Incredibly sweet and giving and generous. We both love art and music and gel really well and have great sex."

His consistency and behavior demonstrates to me that you have attracted a high-caliber man. Good for you, a lot of women haven't been successful with attracting consistency, sweetness, and generosity in a man. So no matter what happens I do think you should give yourself a pat on the back for vibrating on that high level. In addition, He ACTUALLY TOLD YOU! "Then he tells me he's not long term for me and still wants to screw other people." Do you know how refreshing that level of honesty is?

I am not trying to discount your pain, but he sounds like a very good man, but on the other hand, it does seem like he strung you along, i think most people would interpret his behavior as - this man is into me, likes me very much and wants something special. So it does appear he was being somewhat unethical. I get it.

One of the imperfections of many Libras (not all) is our deep fathomless loneliness. We CAN be alone, but since we rule the house of marriage, we are not 'MADE' to be alone. The pain is more unbearable within us, than I believe in any other sign. So God gives us charm; the charm attracts, because the pain girl is unfathomable. This imperfection can cause some Libras, ( not all) to stay in a situation longer than what is morally right. For instance; we may 'know"a situation is not quite right, and instead of responding ethically we may give the impression that everything is okay when in our hearts it's another way...not to hurt you, or play games- contrary to popular opinion.

True i think cancers stay in bad situations 4 too long also even when i feel its not right i work on it and overlook it. I hate it

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Posted by Shrewdsharp
You said, " He's Incredibly sweet and giving and generous. We both love art and music and gel really well and have great sex."

His consistency and behavior demonstrates to me that you have attracted a high-caliber man. Good for you, a lot of women haven't been successful with attracting consistency, sweetness, and generosity in a man. So no matter what happens I do think you should give yourself a pat on the back for vibrating on that high level. In addition, He ACTUALLY TOLD YOU! "Then he tells me he's not long term for me and still wants to screw other people." Do you know how refreshing that level of honesty is?

I am not trying to discount your pain, but he sounds like a very good man, but on the other hand, it does seem like he strung you along, i think most people would interpret his behavior as - this man is into me, likes me very much and wants something special. So it does appear he was being somewhat unethical. I get it.

One of the imperfections of many Libras (not all) is our deep fathomless loneliness. We CAN be alone, but since we rule the house of marriage, we are not 'MADE' to be alone. The pain is more unbearable within us, than I believe in any other sign. So God gives us charm; the charm attracts, because the pain girl is unfathomable. This imperfection can cause some Libras, ( not all) to stay in a situation longer than what is morally right. For instance; we may 'know"a situation is not quite right, and instead of responding ethically we may give the impression that everything is okay when in our hearts it's another way...not to hurt you, or play games- contrary to popular opinion.

Posted by Librawoman77

Posted by lovely77

Posted by Shrewdsharp
You said, " He's Incredibly sweet and giving and generous. We both love art and music and gel really well and have great sex."

His consistency and behavior demonstrates to me that you have attracted a high-caliber man. Good for you, a lot of women haven't been successful with attracting consistency, sweetness, and generosity in a man. So no matter what happens I do think you should give yourself a pat on the back for vibrating on that high level. In addition, He ACTUALLY TOLD YOU! "Then he tells me he's not long term for me and still wants to screw other people." Do you know how refreshing that level of honesty is?

I am not trying to discount your pain, but he sounds like a very good man, but on the other hand, it does seem like he strung you along, i think most people would interpret his behavior as - this man is into me, likes me very much and wants something special. So it does appear he was being somewhat unethical. I get it.

One of the imperfections of many Libras (not all) is our deep fathomless loneliness. We CAN be alone, but since we rule the house of marriage, we are not 'MADE' to be alone. The pain is more unbearable within us, than I believe in any other sign. So God gives us charm; the charm attracts, because the pain girl is unfathomable. This imperfection can cause some Libras, ( not all) to stay in a situation longer than what is morally right. For instance; we may 'know"a situation is not quite right, and instead of responding ethically we may give the impression that everything is okay when in our hearts it's another way...not to hurt you, or play games- contrary to popular opinion.

True i think cancers stay in bad situations 4 too long also even when i feel its not right i work on it and overlook it. I hate it

I think a Libra will stay with in a good situation that's not quite what she's looking for, as opposed to an outright bad situation.

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Posted by Librawoman77

Posted by Shrewdsharp
You said, " He's Incredibly sweet and giving and generous. We both love art and music and gel really well and have great sex."

His consistency and behavior demonstrates to me that you have attracted a high-caliber man. Good for you, a lot of women haven't been successful with attracting consistency, sweetness, and generosity in a man. So no matter what happens I do think you should give yourself a pat on the back for vibrating on that high level. In addition, He ACTUALLY TOLD YOU! "Then he tells me he's not long term for me and still wants to screw other people." Do you know how refreshing that level of honesty is?

I am not trying to discount your pain, but he sounds like a very good man, but on the other hand, it does seem like he strung you along, i think most people would interpret his behavior as - this man is into me, likes me very much and wants something special. So it does appear he was being somewhat unethical. I get it.

One of the imperfections of many Libras (not all) is our deep fathomless loneliness. We CAN be alone, but since we rule the house of marriage, we are not 'MADE' to be alone. The pain is more unbearable within us, than I believe in any other sign. So God gives us charm; the charm attracts, because the pain girl is unfathomable. This imperfection can cause some Libras, ( not all) to stay in a situation longer than what is morally right. For instance; we may 'know"a situation is not quite right, and instead of responding ethically we may give the impression that everything is okay when in our hearts it's another way...not to hurt you, or play games- contrary to popular opinion.

I did get my wine.

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Posted by Librawoman77

Posted by lovely77

Posted by Shrewdsharp
You said, " He's Incredibly sweet and giving and generous. We both love art and music and gel really well and have great sex."

His consistency and behavior demonstrates to me that you have attracted a high-caliber man. Good for you, a lot of women haven't been successful with attracting consistency, sweetness, and generosity in a man. So no matter what happens I do think you should give yourself a pat on the back for vibrating on that high level. In addition, He ACTUALLY TOLD YOU! "Then he tells me he's not long term for me and still wants to screw other people." Do you know how refreshing that level of honesty is?

I am not trying to discount your pain, but he sounds like a very good man, but on the other hand, it does seem like he strung you along, i think most people would interpret his behavior as - this man is into me, likes me very much and wants something special. So it does appear he was being somewhat unethical. I get it.

One of the imperfections of many Libras (not all) is our deep fathomless loneliness. We CAN be alone, but since we rule the house of marriage, we are not 'MADE' to be alone. The pain is more unbearable within us, than I believe in any other sign. So God gives us charm; the charm attracts, because the pain girl is unfathomable. This imperfection can cause some Libras, ( not all) to stay in a situation longer than what is morally right. For instance; we may 'know"a situation is not quite right, and instead of responding ethically we may give the impression that everything is okay when in our hearts it's another way...not to hurt you, or play games- contrary to popular opinion.

True i think cancers stay in bad situations 4 too long also even when i feel its not right i work on it and overlook it. I hate it

I think a Libra will stay with in a good situation that's not quite what she's looking for, as opposed to an outright bad situation.

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Posted by lovely77

Posted by Librawoman77

Posted by lovely77

Posted by Shrewdsharp
You said, " He's Incredibly sweet and giving and generous. We both love art and music and gel really well and have great sex."

His consistency and behavior demonstrates to me that you have attracted a high-caliber man. Good for you, a lot of women haven't been successful with attracting consistency, sweetness, and generosity in a man. So no matter what happens I do think you should give yourself a pat on the back for vibrating on that high level. In addition, He ACTUALLY TOLD YOU! "Then he tells me he's not long term for me and still wants to screw other people." Do you know how refreshing that level of honesty is?

I am not trying to discount your pain, but he sounds like a very good man, but on the other hand, it does seem like he strung you along, i think most people would interpret his behavior as - this man is into me, likes me very much and wants something special. So it does appear he was being somewhat unethical. I get it.

One of the imperfections of many Libras (not all) is our deep fathomless loneliness. We CAN be alone, but since we rule the house of marriage, we are not 'MADE' to be alone. The pain is more unbearable within us, than I believe in any other sign. So God gives us charm; the charm attracts, because the pain girl is unfathomable. This imperfection can cause some Libras, ( not all) to stay in a situation longer than what is morally right. For instance; we may 'know"a situation is not quite right, and instead of responding ethically we may give the impression that everything is okay when in our hearts it's another way...not to hurt you, or play games- contrary to popular opinion.

True i think cancers stay in bad situations 4 too long also even when i feel its not right i work on it and overlook it. I hate it

I think a Libra will stay with in a good situation that's not quite what she's looking for, as opposed to an outright bad situation.

Yea true indeed

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Posted by Shrewdsharp
You said, " He's Incredibly sweet and giving and generous. We both love art and music and gel really well and have great sex."

His consistency and behavior demonstrates to me that you have attracted a high-caliber man. Good for you, a lot of women haven't been successful with attracting consistency, sweetness, and generosity in a man. So no matter what happens I do think you should give yourself a pat on the back for vibrating on that high level. In addition, He ACTUALLY TOLD YOU! "Then he tells me he's not long term for me and still wants to screw other people." Do you know how refreshing that level of honesty is?

I am not trying to discount your pain, but he sounds like a very good man, but on the other hand, it does seem like he strung you along, i think most people would interpret his behavior as - this man is into me, likes me very much and wants something special. So it does appear he was being somewhat unethical. I get it.

One of the imperfections of many Libras (not all) is our deep fathomless loneliness. We CAN be alone, but since we rule the house of marriage, we are not 'MADE' to be alone. The pain is more unbearable within us, than I believe in any other sign. So God gives us charm; the charm attracts, because the pain girl is unfathomable. This imperfection can cause some Libras, ( not all) to stay in a situation longer than what is morally right. For instance; we may 'know"a situation is not quite right, and instead of responding ethically we may give the impression that everything is okay when in our hearts it's another way...not to hurt you, or play games- contrary to popular opinion.

Posted by boxcarmirnta
Not sure what it is he thinks isn't right but he is still consistent and we are very compatible, and really enjoy each others company. I think Pisces share that same loneliness.

Posted by Shrewdsharp

Posted by boxcarmirnta
Not sure what it is he thinks isn't right but he is still consistent and we are very compatible, and really enjoy each others company. I think Pisces share that same loneliness.

I have a feeling that he may not reveal to you what he thinks is missing out of fear of hurting your feelings. I sense that you are not taking what he said to heart because his behavior is showing you the opposite, and 99.9% of the time that is right. But this man may be the exception to the rule because he says what he means and means what he says. The late Dr. Maya Angelou said, "When somebody tells you who they are, BELIEVE THEM!" Girl, Really take in what he said and have your feelings about it. For me, I would be deeply hurt, and back up. At any time he may meet the woman with whom he does want to commit and I am out in the cold. Many Libras (not all) are known for that. Please proceed with your eyes open wide. I have a feeling you are feeling him deeply, understandably, and he is not on the same page. He told you that. One day, out of nowhere, you may experience a disappearing act that will shatter you to the core. Words don't teach, experience teaches, perhaps this Is an experience you need to have. Just proceed with caution.

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Posted by boxcarmirnta
Not sure what it is he thinks isn't right but he is still consistent and we are very compatible, and really enjoy each others company. I think Pisces share that same loneliness.

I have a feeling that he may not reveal to you what he thinks is missing out of fear of hurting your feelings. I sense that you are not taking what he said to heart because his behavior is showing you the opposite, and 99.9% of the time that is right. But this man may be the exception to the rule because he says what he means and means what he says. The late Dr. Maya Angelou said, "When somebody tells you who they are, BELIEVE THEM!" Girl, Really take in what he said and have your feelings about it. For me, I would be deeply hurt, and back up. At any time he may meet the woman with whom he does want to commit and I am out in the cold. Many Libras (not all) are known for that. Please proceed with your eyes open wide. I have a feeling you are feeling him deeply, understandably, and he is not on the same page. He told you that. One day, out of nowhere, you may experience a disappearing act that will shatter you to the core. Words don't teach, experience teaches, perhaps this Is an experience you need to have. Just proceed with caution.

I will. But I literally dont get why you would put in that much effort into someone you weren't really into. I mean we even fought and he still wants to see me. When I fight with ppl I dont care about...i don't have any desire to see them again...I don't get it...

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Posted by boxcarmirnta
I really dont get why you would string someone along like that. But I plan on talking to him more about cuz I think its too premature to know "the future" at this point, for both of us. Thank you @shrewdsharp!

Posted by Librawoman77
You can't speak for him, you can only speak for you, and he knows himself enough to know that there is no long term future with you. What part of that are not understanding?

Posted by Shrewdsharp

Posted by Librawoman77
You can't speak for him, you can only speak for you, and he knows himself enough to know that there is no long term future with you. What part of that are not understanding?

Yeah I can tell within the first date or two. I think Libras have an intuitive insight that other signs don't have about who is right for us.

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Posted by Librawoman77
You can't speak for him, you can only speak for you, and he knows himself enough to know that there is no long term future with you. What part of that are not understanding?

Yeah I can tell within the first date or two. I think Libras have an intuitive insight that other signs don't have about who is right for us.

What is up with these women and their denial? I disagree with you on this being a man of high caliber. I think he's a sociopath, I mean who does this? He's playing a highly sophisticated cruel mind game that we air signs are notorious for and he's winning. OP you will be slaughtered! You mark my word, I hope you are using protection because sociopaths this sophisticated, could knowingly spread the AIDS virus to woman to woman. I hope you have not had unprotected sex with this low-life, if so get ready for your positive Chlamydia results.

Honey, you are being played by a highly intelligent sociopath, but Pisces listens to their feelings, not the facts. You are going to be brutalized!

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Posted by Librawoman77
You can't speak for him, you can only speak for you, and he knows himself enough to know that there is no long term future with you. What part of that are not understanding?

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Posted by Librawoman77
You can't speak for him, you can only speak for you, and he knows himself enough to know that there is no long term future with you. What part of that are not understanding?

My point exactly! Why doesn't she get the fact that he can have sex with her, talk to her, be cordial and not want a committed relationship? Now she's manifesting drama just to get a reaction out of him to see if his feelings are going to change, his feelings are not going to change because he's already said what they are. He doesn't want a committed relationship and will see other people period! There's nothing else that needs to be shown or explained nor does anything he does change the fact that he's already made up his mind about her.

What she doesn't get is that he hasn't found what he's looking for yet but when he does, she'll then understand when he disappears on her and it won't be anything wrong with it because he told her upfront she isn't the one. She's use to dudes being a cookie monster to her so she doesn't recognize when someone is actually being genuine however being genuine doesn't mean having things the way you want them for your benefit. It simple means he's treating the situation as it is in a respectful manner and once their "situation" is over then he will act accordingly.

It's obviously she doesn't "get it" and is going to hang around until he indeed dumps her, then she's going to come on her and vent about how Libra men are evil for leading her on when her being strung along is her doing. He told her what's up and she's refusing to accept it because it's not what she wants.

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Posted by boxcarmirnta
I already know what I want and if I'm not gonna eventually get it from him ill move on. We need to talk more. He didn't want to throw himself into a relationship again..and that's fine I respect that. But its only been a couple months, so ill draw the line at some point when we've talked and decided for sure its not meant to be.

Uh uh. The man said he don't see a future with you. There is nothing else to see. You setting yourself up for heartbreak.

But if you insist on staying...stop treating him like a priority. Answer his calls only when you feel like it. Have sex then leave. Flake when he schedules dates, then make plans with other friends. Zone out when he talks. Give no fucks about your appearance when he comes to visit...aye it's ugly shoe day. He'll either dump you for good, or fall in love...they have masochistic tendencies I swear. If he falls in love don't blame me, I warned you.

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