To be, or Not to be

I am a Libra, so without any questions generally possessing the qualities associated with my sign. I am facing a real conundrum here; I like this girl a lot but it's as if I already know how it's going to end, not being pessimistic but I have always parted ways when the other person gets a tad bit more serious. Not to be cruel, but because I can't seem to take that step forward where it gets all serious and emotional. And anyways I end up hurting my partners by trying not to do more harm and amicably part ways. They always seem to hope that one day I will fall in love with them. It does sound like I am being an arse, but believe you me that's not the case. The last time I was in a relationship, it gradually became almost serious and I genuinely thought that I was falling in love with her, but after 1 1/2 years I suggested that we should part ways. She was heartbroken and distraught. She wanted to marry me and have kids and I shattered that dream of hers. She was one of the best people I have ever come across my life and all I have since wished for her is to find a suitable match and be happy. I have always blamed myself for it, as I should never have let it go that far or something,but anything. I always have been upfront about how far I want the relationship to go, as in I have always made it abundantly clear that I am not a serious relationship kind of bloke. I like a good companionship but nothing that would result in me being either a father or me being married. The girl who I am currently dating also wants commitment and babies and so on. I am just not that kind of a person. Maybe later on I could be, but I just don't know. So i don't want to make any kind of promises that we will get married one day and so on, I can't hurt her feelings later on. I wouldn't even be able to stand myself if I know I hurt someone and let alone her, I care about her too much. So if anyone has anything to suggest about how should I proceed, feel free to do so as I am really facing a dilemma !
CAVEAT - She's an Aries.

You're an emotional head case and you make out you don't want to hurt these girls yet you proceed to trick them and win their hearts when you know all along you are just draining them of their love only to leave them...and as a Libra you pretend/lie to yourself that you aren't doing anything wrong...woe is me, all these girls are just falling at my feet.

Leave them alone as soon as you know that they want a relationship...this can be found out in the first few dates. You stringing them along is just your selfish ego!

Go out and play with your own kind, there are plenty of girls out there that don't want anything serious or won't want anything serious with you!

Why is your ip assigned to 4 different people and 3 different signs?

You are just mental sick, same as I met a libra man too. you are exactly the same Jerk of people as he is ! I hate you all Libras , really ! You know only to play and destroy someone's life and dreams ! Move your ass from here, we don;t need this kind of men in our life !

Posted by ninjutsu
lmao @ one of those usernames being squishypoo

trolls be trolling

LOL

Though the one username which does not click is virgo_goki...hardly one to troll 😢

*waves hello at Nina*

@ Sweethearts - I haven't tricked anyone of my ex partners, rather I have been completely honest since the very beginning that it most probably won't fruit into a serious relationship. The aries I am presently dating is 27(4 years older than me) and she's ready to settle down, but I am not. She's a serious relationship type and she knows I am not. She's hopeful that I will be wanting to settle down with her one day too, when I have been clear that I don't know if I ever will. We both are clueless about how to proceed further. I can take a step forward and try to see if I can be in that kind of a relationship, but I am 99% sure that it won't work out and I will end up hurting her. So that's about it !

I haven't the slightest about why the ip is associated with other people as I am using a Proxy.

@ Julya22 - I am sorry to hear about your previous not so good encounters with libras. If what you said is just like that, It's okay, but if it's true, You seem hurt. I hope you got help and you are happy in your life now !

Yes you have, woman want to try and fix you and you know it so stop pretending that you are the innocent party and woe is me.

You are emotionally unavailable allowing yourself to creep into woman's heart that are available. As I suggested, go play with your own kind! And step out of denial...But great for your ego huh??

I'm must say Sweethearts is right



You know exactly what ur doing cause if u didn't how is it u know what these women want and the fact that u don't want to give it says a lot, you could have walked away at anytime, but u love the ego boost they give u, that need is what u want, but u don't want to give it back, and u know this so ur not innocent...period, either walk away and face that ur using these women, or put ur big boy pants on and get serious for a change

@ Sweethearts - I understand your point about Women's inherent need to fix, I have seen it & experienced it personally myself, and talking about innocence; Well I stopped being innocent since I was 12 or so. I am not exactly sure whether I am emotionally available or not, but I guess if I am not letting myself get beyond a point in a relationship, your point could be right on the money. I appreciate your candour !

@ TaurusNikki - I am not trying to oppose your view, I believe we just have a difference of opinion here. The only thing I am not giving in my relationship is a commitment to be serious, and I think I reserve the right to do so. You put it quite eloquently when you say that I could have walked away at anytime, but you know the reason why I don't is because I care about the relationship. I want it, I like it and I would like to cherish it. The Aries I am dating wants a certain kind of relationship( where we both be serious and eventually have a family ) ergo, I am stuck between a rock and a hard place.

Here's an obvious solution- don't date. Or don't date and let it get to this point. You're dating selfishly here. You're dating under false pretenses as well. You want all the fluff of a relationship without the commitment.

You are what they call an emotionally unavailable male and you're doing nothing but polluting the dating pool. The only thing you want to cherish here is your own emotional needs and you're putting others' emotional needs on that flimsy Libran scale, all at the mercy of your little emotional whims.

Go be single and get your shit together. Using women to fulfil internal lonliness until you get bored/want to move is a dick move.

And that is not just a "differing" opinion, it's the reality of the situation that you have presented. Get your head out of lala land, kthx.

Look what we have here! Ladies, he is the epitome of an unevolved libra male, who we all come across since evolved ones are scarce.

To the OP: every single relationship gets serious at some point. That is the point of a relationship, you dumb playboy! As rocky said, you want benefits of a relationship without having to commit. I give you credit for acknowledging your personality flaw. Since you are well aware of yourself, why are dating or gettig into a relationship? You should stick to one night stands! That's all! Stick to the one night stand women or prostitutes because it will be one night and no expectation be formed.

@ Rockyroadicecream - Well without further do, I have to say your username is very interesting. Hmm don't date - I tried that for an year and to be honest, it wasn't a fun experience. I did have a lot of casual encounters but few t?te-??-t?te. I met a lot of crazy women( not being disrespectful ). I remember this once instance when I was on a two day stop in Frankfurt where I met an appealing and smart woman. We both were staying at the same Hotel, she was older than me, as in married with two kids. She was nice to talk to and was very interesting at first, that's the only reason it went that far. When it was time to kiss and bid adieu, things went haywire. She was like I thought we were going to stay together and anyways I am not happy with my marriage, so when are we meeting again and so on. I knew that was the time to quit this. Hmm, Let's see about dating selfishly; don't we all — As first and foremost, self preservation kicks in. But I will say that you have made some quite interesting remarks. It's piqued my curiosity !

@ Aquarius09 - I like your optimistic view that every relationship gets serious at some point, but some just go awry. I am not saying that I shouldn't even have a relationship as there are 50-50 chances of it being successful, what I mean to say is that
a relationship needs to be fulfilling to both the parties involved, not just one. My relationship with this Aries girl is fulfilling to both of us, and it's not my assumption but merely how we both feel like. We are content with what we have at present, the question is about the future as I have already mentioned about what she wants and what I don't ! I have absolutely no clue how shall I breakthrough this not so enviable position I am in, as If I really want this relationship to succeed, then I shall just commit to her, even though there's a high probability that I might lose interest and would want to break through the shambles of a serious relationship.

Eh oh el. You banged a married chick.

Oh honey, go get help. You have issues.

Posted by Wanderlust101
@ Sweethearts - I understand your point about Women's inherent need to fix, I have seen it & experienced it personally myself, and talking about innocence; Well I stopped being innocent since I was 12 or so. I am not exactly sure whether I am emotionally available or not, but I guess if I am not letting myself get beyond a point in a relationship, your point could be right on the money. I appreciate your candour !

@ TaurusNikki - I am not trying to oppose your view, I believe we just have a difference of opinion here. The only thing I am not giving in my relationship is a commitment to be serious, and I think I reserve the right to do so. You put it quite eloquently when you say that I could have walked away at anytime, but you know the reason why I don't is because I care about the relationship. I want it, I like it and I would like to cherish it. The Aries I am dating wants a certain kind of relationship( where we both be serious and eventually have a family ) ergo, I am stuck between a rock and a hard place.

I've just stepped out of a relationship like the one you present...I know the trickery and how you make out you are all that and more and let the woman believe she is all that to you to. We woman when we set up, we set up for life! You and your lot, pretend and lie maybe (white lie) is how you feel but it's still a cold hearted lie...in the end, we are the ones that you cripple...just as well for me I'm older and more mature and independent so I can pick myself up easier. I have had the children and the marriage previously...I feel for the girls that you wound around your lies because tbh...you are using up their time when they can be looking for someone that is more dedicated and more honest and more loving than you can ever be. Set them free...especially the girl you are with now. She can have a real life and fulfil her needs before you suck the life out of her!

@ Sweethearts - The Aries I am dating was and still is free to go ahead and be with some one else who would be ready to settle down or at least be in a serious relationship. But somehow all my ex partners and this one too suggests that we should be together and maybe one day I will be ready to be serious. I mean believe you me, I agree with you here completely that she should rather be with someone who's ready for all that, but she doesn't seem to want that. I like her a lot, but I would have absolutely no qualms if she wishes to part ways, as her happiness is somehow more important to me. I know sometimes I am a cold hearted bastard, but never unfair or unjust.

And also it seems to me as if you have endured more than your share of hurt in this lifetime, so I hope you have found your happiness. I am sure you deserve it !

Honey, what you fail to understand is that she THINKS you are the one for her and she can fix you. She is not going to even going to notice any man no matter what he looks like because you are her focus...she will never really find happiness and her lives fulfilment unless you take yourself away and allow her to...yes she will hurt but she will mend.

You are selfishly denying her any "REAL" happiness. Because you selfishly want to grow tired of her BEFORE you let her go.

Man up, hurt yourself a little OR one of these lovely ladies is going to get PREGNANT and try and trap you 😉 Happens all the time and then you will be FUCKED!!! And deserve it too, I might add!

I know sometimes I am a cold hearted bastard, but never unfair or unjust.

This is also BULLSHIT!! You are Libra and you are justifying your selfish ways and you "think" you are being fair and just...but Honey, we Libras here have called you up on it, not just me but several here and you really are being "UNJUST AND UNFAIR"

@ Sweethearts - Once I came across one such lovely girl, who thought telling me she was pregnant would in fact save our relationship, but we both were smart enough to know that it wouldn't work. I guess she became naive just for a wee moment there in the hope of being together. Needless to say it wasn't the case and we both parted ways amicably soon enough. She was a fantastic person and she has found some one else and we are still friends. Very well then. You seem mature enough to give sound advice, so I shall take heed then. So I shall not and will not deny her any more happiness and ask her to take a break and focus on what she really wants. If she finds some one else who can give her what she desires in a relationship (commitment). Let's see where does this takes us and hoping we can finally see the light at the end of the tunnel !

Wanderlust101: What is your back story? Who HURT you in the past? What are you afraid of? And what are you really even asking here? I won't dog you, I respect your honesty. Is it that you have a VERY idealistic idea of the woman you want and feel like no one meets that? Do you want to be able to have your pick of the crop at anytime so you stay uncommitted? What is your venus and the house it lies in. Do you have lots of 12th house placements?

heliumfiasco - Well, I haven't ever been hurt in the past. The situation is that I don't want to settle by being committed to this Aries. It just seems so odd even thinking about being with just one person for such a long time. I loathe emotional situations, and imagine just how heavy it would be being in a serious relationship. I don't know if she's the best companion for me to share my life with. Now it's really starting to sound like I am an arse. But I have to be honest to her, but firstly to myself about what I want. I have been in many relationships, and I always end up parting ways when it's on the verge of being serious. Indeed I do have an idealistic way of how my partner should be and how the relationship should be. I am pragmatic and okay with compromise when the relationship strays from its course, but relationships are volatile and unpredictable so have to expect anything.

I am more than sure that I am not a person who would settle down with a family and all. If I ever do get married, I would want it to be the one. It has to be the only marriage I ever get into. The Aries I am currently dating is very much into all of the aforementioned. Though what I see happening is that either she will compromise her desire to be with me or I will to be with her. There's also a third option which concludes with us parting ways and her being devastated. I am not stating how will I end up feeling as I tend to move on soon enough. I haven't the slightest about why I am the way I am !

heliumfiasco - My Venus is in Scorpio and I have no clue about the placements.

Posted by Wanderlust101

@ Aquarius09 - I like your optimistic view that every relationship gets serious at some point, but some just go awry. I am not saying that I shouldn't even have a relationship as there are 50-50 chances of it being successful, what I mean to say is that
a relationship needs to be fulfilling to both the parties involved, not just one. My relationship with this Aries girl is fulfilling to both of us, and it's not my assumption but merely how we both feel like. We are content with what we have at present, the question is about the future as I have already mentioned about what she wants and what I don't ! I have absolutely no clue how shall I breakthrough this not so enviable position I am in, as If I really want this relationship to succeed, then I shall just commit to her, even though there's a high probability that I might lose interest and would want to break through the shambles of a serious relationship.

Some go awry, but when people get into relationship and it goes past a certain point, the final destination is usually to get married or have a family. That's how about 90% of women are built. We get attached and emotional. You sound like a typical male who isn't looking to settle down because you don't want the responsibility that comes with being in a relationship. I shared your post with my bros and BFF and they all laughed and said, "don't we all want that, bro!" Difference being is that my bros and BFF know this is a very idealistic and unrealistic way of thinking, which is why men suck up their selfish mentality and romance a woman and have children with her at some point. You are not ready for a relationship so stop seeking out relationships. You want to allay your fear of loneliness and not be single, so you want a woman to give you benefits that come with being in a relationship with her such as: gifts, sex, being there for you in your weak moments, cook and do your laundry,perhaps. Let's face it, one night stand, FWB, prostitutes or women looking strictly for sex won't do ANYof that for you. If you want the privileges that comes with being with a woman, you should overcome your selfish thoughts, not get in a relationship and when taking n responsibility becomes real, you get cold feet. If you don't want what the Aries chick wants, then tell her you don't want that and walk away from her. Don't stay in her life and expect her to

her to walk away because she is not going to. She, like a typical woman, would delude herself into thinking you're attainable and possibly try to get herself pregnant.

HAHAHA! I KNEW you were a Libra, Sag, Scorp mix! My shits getting on point! 🙂 Take note ladies, take note.

I would love to know if your Venus or Moon are in 12th house. I'd bet on it.

heliumfiasco - I have Aries in XIIth house.

@ Aquarius09 - Surely there are a lot of benefits that come along with being in any relationship, especially a romantic one. Though cooking isn't one of them as she doesn't know how to cook but neither do I, LoL. Her being there for me when I am having not so merry times is one of the most important aspects in our relationship. I haven't mentioned this before but I am just going tbh here, the most important reason I haven't felt like committing to a serious relationship with her is because she's very possessive and gets jealous in a sec. I am okay with that but after some time it just feels smothering. I don't understand irrational jealousy. I think it's axiomatic that if I am in a relationship with her, I see no possible and sane reason to betray her trust by straying. I mean if I wanted to be with someone else, I would rather break up and do what I want than cheat. I have tried to make her understand this simple thing, but somehow she just seems to be impervious to it.

I'm sure she is jealous and possessive because she knows she wants a commitment and is hanging on tightly in the hopes you might. She feels insecure like she isnt good enough for you to settle down, that in turn makes her feel like you are on the look for "the one".

Most women don't believe that anyone wants to be alone forever, she thinks its something she is doing wrong. She is willing to fight and try to figure out what that is....no one ever wants to feel not good enough. She is trying to secure you until she figures out how to keep you.

@ LIBRA1234 - Talking to a Psychologist about these issues seems a bit extreme to me. It would be a lot of help though to people who have really important problems to deal with. I am not designating my dilemmas as trivial, but surely not in the same purview as individuals who need and seek counsel. Everyone has their own opinions about any issue so it's okay if they criticise me or the way I deal with things. I guess it just depends upon whose situation they feel related to, either her or me. That's about it !

@ LIBRA1234 - Oh no, I wasn't even suggesting as what you said is a general practice in the states. While I was working in manhattan, a lot of my colleagues and friends either used to or at that time frequenting their therapists office. We all did have high stress jobs, you know being in finance sucks the life out of you, and not everyone can handle pressure the same way , so it wasn't unusual. You thought right, I definitely am as confused as a lost puppy in the middle of nowhere.


heliumfiasco - I hope that she isn't under the impression that she isn't good enough for me as she's more than good enough. When it comes to her being secure, I would want nothing more than to make her feel safe and secure regarding this relationship. But in my opinion, she wouldn't feel that way until I commit to be serious. That's the way she is and I guess if I was in her place I would feel the same way, minus the possessiveness and jealousy. All my ex partners have been the same way, in the beginning they are all cool and calm about the freedom and then gradually start getting possessive & jealous. It just doesn't make sense to me at all.

So, I'm confused. You say you are exclusive, you wouldn't stray from her as to hurt her. You say, she is great and you want her to feel secure. Sounds like you ARE committed. Does the word just frighten you? Sounds like she's the only one to me.... What isn't committed about that?

We are far from exclusive, but it's not an open relationship either. It has become a complex relationship now. What I meant was I wanted her to feel secure in this relationship with the way it was. By asking me to be serious and committed has put immense pressure on this relationship and me. When we are out and about if she sees babies, she's like awwww I want one too. Then we go back to discussions about it but it's not my cup of tea. Oh my, now I am swaying towards the decision that we should call it quits as even if she compromises her desires to be with me in this relationship which may or may not succeed, It doesn't seem to do right to her. She's going to be gobsmacked when I propose this to her.

I am definitely not in love, in fact I have never been in love. Infatuation would be the right word for how I feel. I am attracted to women, it's just natural and if someone's genuinely b'ful I do acknowledge that. If I recall correctly then yes I might have complimented others some times while with her, but I don't feel that there's anything wrong with it because if something or someone deserves a compliment, It surely should be paid.

Posted by LIBRA1234
aaaa u are 23 only! u are a baby, u are ok 🙂

Agreed, you're age reflects you feelings and attitude. But also know that that same age is the age in which a woman is looking to be settling down and marrying and having children! Depending how many she has in mind, age gap, time for the two of you to enjoy each other first before children and all before 35! This is a crucial time for her, not a time to be wasted on window shoppers!

The way I see it, if you keep poking the fire...eventually you will get burnt.

If he wants to play with these woman who are in the prime of their lives (whether they acknowledge to themselves or not they want kids, family etc) he will eventually be caught! In fact, he already understands while he is dating them that they want children and marriage. I don't think they have hidden their agenda from him at all. As he has told them openly that he isn't the relationship type but continues to be in a form of a relationship with them...so they then feel that he does and will change his mind, he's just not ready to now...

And Tiz, every woman knows when she is in her "Prime time for producing" not all want children in this time but we certainly know the odds of having healthy children after the age of 35. Just like we know every month we have a cycle and most of us even know within that cycle what 2 days we can re-produce. 😉

@ LIBRA1234 - I remember this one time when I was enchanted while with her. We were at a party and I was introduced by a mutual friend to this girl, she was absolutely gorgeous. She was sophisticated, exquisite, and oh yes, there was just so much sensuality in her voice. We had quite a conversation, which in no way pleased my date. She wasn't so pleased with me giving her that much attention, but it was natural of her to get jealous and so later we just had a nice laugh about it.

TBH, I am not looking for love, I mean if it happens along the way then lucky me. But apart from that as long as I am happy and content in a relationship, I don't need anything else. There the question arises about both the partners being on the same level and if that's not achieved and only one is happy and the other one's not, well there's no reason to be in a relationship whether serious or not. My relationship with this girl was in a state of bliss, but I guess not anymore !

Posted by tiziani
I see what you did there

😉

Posted by Wanderlust101
All my ex partners have been the same way, in the beginning they are all cool and calm about the freedom and then gradually start getting possessive & jealous. It just doesn't make sense to me at all.

Because YOU plant seeds of insecurity in some way, shape, or form. That bs right there will make any sane, stable women turn into a total mess.

I went through the same bs with the last Libra I was seeing. I was laid back and whatever about everything. Then I started to see things that left a lot of things in question, and in turn bred insecurity. I hated it because I shouldn't ever have to feel that way with anyone. If the other is doing something that makes you question them as an individual, you're bound to see insecure behavior.

As someone else said, you sound incredibly naive and the reason you get negative backlash is because your outlook is very cakey eaty, tbh.

But I saw that you have a Sag moon. That explains A LOT.

..you're also 23. That explains all of it.

Do the female species a favor and go be single for awhile. You can't get your shit together and you're dating selfishly. It's time to do some self discovery and you can't do that when you're so insecure that you have to be with someone at all times.

Keep talking though...marvellous insight to the male Libra that has us all caught up..you are in effect teaching a few here about their own Leebs. The bad side...Tiz has already given many a view on the good side..but we all need the other end of the scale 😉

I personally would find it very interesting if you end it with the Aries because although you are quite content with your situation you put her needs ahead of your own...

Posted by tiziani
I like it when Libras are bad you know. Including myself, and everyone. It's refreshing. Too many people try and play the whole "that would be unfair" manipulation card against Leebs when they want their attention. It's good to see what they get when they go down that route and play that game.

Explains why you condone such behavior from Libras. I see a lot of defending of bad behavior from you. You make way too many excuses.

@ rockyroadicecream - In my opinion, We all date selfishly in some way or the other. Some people acknowledge it and some don't because they either are in denial or they genuinely think that they are not. I mean who wouldn't want to think that they are selfless and everything is hunky dory. I think accepting the truth that Yes indeed I do date selfishly in some way is the best way to be.

Insecurity is not the trait that I possess fortunately, as it can be very destructive. I have seen what it does to people, relationships and so on. And yes I would rather be and do things together with someone else than alone, but not in a relationship just with other people, as there are billions of people in this world, so why on earth would anyone want to be alone when we can be sharing our lives with others. I mean it would be a colossal mistake to be alone and live your life like that. Surely there are fellows out there who would fancy being by themselves than with others. It's their choice but I can't. You would almost never see me doing activities just by myself, it's not because I don't revel in my own company but just that I enjoy sharing my life with others.

@ sweethearts - WoW ok, I didn't realise that it was the bad side, I just thought that it was the other side. I guess you are the type who sees the glass half empty, j.k. Yes, I would be very much glad if the Aries & I remain the same way we are. I know she will be more than happy to compromise her desires for this relationship, but she's arse ove tit for me and her expectations will come thrashing down when she expect me to be in love with her too. I also could step forward and try to be in a serious relationship, but I know for sure that I will be the first one out the door. In either scenario, the outlook isn't so merry for her. I just don't know anymore which path to continue on to !

Posted by rockyroadicecream

Posted by tiziani
I like it when Libras are bad you know. Including myself, and everyone. It's refreshing. Too many people try and play the whole "that would be unfair" manipulation card against Leebs when they want their attention. It's good to see what they get when they go down that route and play that game.

Explains why you condone such behavior from Libras. I see a lot of defending of bad behavior from you. You make way too many excuses.

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+1. Tiz, I also notice you justifying bad behaviour of libra men. I sometimes wonder if you are guilty of this crap in real life.

Posted by Wanderlust101
@ rockyroadicecream - In my opinion, We all date selfishly in some way or the other. Some people acknowledge it and some don't because they either are in denial or they genuinely think that they are not. I mean who wouldn't want to think that they are selfless and everything is hunky dory. I think accepting the truth that Yes indeed I do date selfishly in some way is the best way to be.

Insecurity is not the trait that I possess fortunately, as it can be very destructive. I have seen what it does to people, relationships and so on. And yes I would rather be and do things together with someone else than alone

Negative, young sir. Not everyone dates selfishly. You are projecting yourself and the bad apples you may have come across on others. As for you not being insecure, you're in denial, hun. Not knowing how to be alone is a major insecurity, which you seem to be suffering from. Nonetheless, now that I know that you're only 23 yrs old, it's clear you are an unevolved leeb. You have a lot of growing up to do. Never have I seen an evolved leeb thats your age.

I wouldn't call it justifying but it would suggest HOW you guys are perceiving his answers. The man delivers on what people ask, "Why this, why that". If you read between the lines or perhaps just reading a few more of the replies he doesn't condone anything and in fact quite honest and clear about why certain behaviours exist.

Life ain't always about peaches, and I don't believe for a second that no one on DXP has ever been selfish.

Posted by Wanderlust101
@ sweethearts - WoW ok, I didn't realise that it was the bad side, I just thought that it was the other side. I guess you are the type who sees the glass half empty, j.k. Yes, I would be very much glad if the Aries & I remain the same way we are. I know she will be more than happy to compromise her desires for this relationship, but she's arse ove tit for me and her expectations will come thrashing down when she expect me to be in love with her too. I also could step forward and try to be in a serious relationship, but I know for sure that I will be the first one out the door. In either scenario, the outlook isn't so merry for her. I just don't know anymore which path to continue on to !

Well I see it as you selfishly looking out for you when you know full well that you are leading these women who want a real relationship on. And given the extent of your time with them, years not weeks, hours or months during this precious time in their lives, which you are also fully aware of but don't seem to care. Yes, I think it is the bad side of a Libra or it demonstrates your self loving side that really doesn't consider anyone or anybody except themselves!

@ aquarius09 - If you believe that everyone is so selfless in relationships and never selfish, that's just bollocks. This belief of yours speaks so much about you. I have already said that insecurity is one trait I don't possess. And fortunately I might add, so I guess either you didn't understand it or just thought it would be better to avoid it and rather project your own view on me. I value your input so it's okay. Now I haven't the slightest about how old you are, but if you think that because of your age or somehow you have achieved enlightenment, In your dreams love ! I certainly haven't stopped evolving and I don't think I will till I die. I am glad though that I won't stop changing,i.e ideally,physically and in every other way, we should all keep on learning till the end.

@ sweethearts - Well, what part of me being crystal clear since the start of the relationship that she shouldn't expect me to get serious as most probably it won't fruit into a committed relationship you can't grasp ? If you still think that I am leading them on, I understand. The only time my relationship lasted a year or more was just once, and I gave everything I could do try and be serious. Everyone has their own ideal about what a real relationship is and I am more than sure that the Aries I am currently dating is very smart, so if she wanted to part ways she would have, but even if she should wish to in the future, she absolutely can. I don't know if I will commit to her once and for all in the near future or not, but I think the relationship doesn't necessarily require babies or a marriage for it to be called "Real". And how many relationships even succeed after getting married, statistics clearly show that more often than not they are headed to the divorce courts sooner than you think. I don't delve so deep about relationships, I just thought it should be mentioned as you talked about a real relationship. Tbh, it should be free of such shackles and be free and easy, devoid of such stress. A successful relationship definitely doesn't require to be settled down like that. Though what I can't understand is why would you choose to be ignorant when someone doesn't seem to see eye to eye with your view. Everyone has their own opinion and way of doing things, might be right or wrong. So learn to live with it, As simple as that. But still it's your wish and can choose not to, it's okay.

Posted by tiziani
"Once you start making commitments, life starts giving you answers"

Can't remember who said that but I'm reminded of it here.

Shouldn't he wait to do that, as people often commit to the wrong things or the wrong person. I think it would be logical for him to wait and see.

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Posted by tiziani
I like it when Libras are bad you know. Including myself, and everyone. It's refreshing. Too many people try and play the whole "that would be unfair" manipulation card against Leebs when they want their attention. It's good to see what they get when they go down that route and play that game.

Explains why you condone such behavior from Libras. I see a lot of defending of bad behavior from you. You make way too many excuses.

+1. Tiz, I also notice you justifying bad behaviour of libra men. I sometimes wonder if you are guilty of this crap in real life.

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He does it with bad behavior from men overall. I wonder if he realizes what a sexist he is? I've been noticing a trend in his comments all over the forums in regard to men and women in dating. A lot of male privilege mindset kinda shows itself.