Why Men Love Bitches!!
This topic was created in the Libra forum by Queenscorpio on Thursday, March 1, 2007 and has 222 replies.
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All you girls, must read this. I think the man that they describe is Libra men especially. OMG!!! It is exactly how they think. They say all men. I think Libra men mostly. It will deinitely help you with a Libra man for sure!!! Aloofness, staying busy, not being available. ETC.
The book: I just bought it: "WHY MEN LOVE B-I-T-C-H-E-S. Funny, the first time I saw it, my ex was reading it. Libra...
This is a GREAT book! I read it years ago. It really helped my relationship at the time. I haven't read it in such a long time.
I have it...
LS, a lot of things in this book reminded me of your advice... I just kept smiling and thinking of you while reading. Very, very inlightening. I find that I am mostly a bitch, but in some ways the nice girl... I will become a total bitch. I now see that will work with any man 
Hmmm, I was definitely a total bitch with the ex. Became a little nicer since. OK back to being the bitch!!!
Hmmm, I was definitely a total bitch with the ex. Became a little nicer since. OK back to being the bitch!!!
cookie monster...why is cookie monster showing up in place of bitch?
great, now i want an Oreo
great, now i want an Oreo
LOL!!! HP, you have to get this book. Chatz too. HP, if you follow the rules in this book you will have that Libra forever.
who is the author?
I have read and re-read that book. It is very funny and very applicable on most men. I think she's driving home the point of treating yourself the way you want men folk to treat you. To some women it isn't so common sense.
Never read the book, never even heard of it... Obviously, I need to get out a bit more, seeing as I seem to be the only one.
I am not entirely certain I would want any man that was eager to spend their lives with a bitch. I mean what quality of man could we possibly be talking about here? Obviously, one needing a good helping of self-possession and self-worth...
Granted, not that I am always pink fluffy clouds and roses, I can definitely turn on the bitch mode when necessary. But, full-time bitch?!? I find it hard to believe I could have any respect for a man willing to put up with that and not see that he, as well as everyone, deserves better than that...
I am not entirely certain I would want any man that was eager to spend their lives with a bitch. I mean what quality of man could we possibly be talking about here? Obviously, one needing a good helping of self-possession and self-worth...
Granted, not that I am always pink fluffy clouds and roses, I can definitely turn on the bitch mode when necessary. But, full-time bitch?!? I find it hard to believe I could have any respect for a man willing to put up with that and not see that he, as well as everyone, deserves better than that...
Yeah it isn't really about how to treat men, it is really about how to treat yourself.
"great, now i want an Oreo"
Oh, why did you have to put that thought in my head?!?!? I love Oreos. Double-stuffed!!!
Oh, why did you have to put that thought in my head?!?!? I love Oreos. Double-stuffed!!!
She uses the word Bitch is differently than what you are thinking alcheme. It is really about treating yourself well, living your own life, putting yourself first, and basically giving women permission to do that.
It is very empowering. Maybe I will pick it up this weekend. I haven't read it in forever.
It is very empowering. Maybe I will pick it up this weekend. I haven't read it in forever.
LS,
Oh, hmmm... Okay. Don't think I really have a problem with that (the concept or the implementation).
Oh, hmmm... Okay. Don't think I really have a problem with that (the concept or the implementation).
"basically giving women permission to do that"
Pluto and Aries gave me that permission long ago...
Pluto and Aries gave me that permission long ago...
* Mars (not Aries, though, perhaps Atom will jump in )
Damn, Thursday suck. Too close to the weekend, but not close enough.
)Damn, Thursday suck. Too close to the weekend, but not close enough.
* Thursdays
nm, I give up now.
nm, I give up now.
party in houston...come on down this weekend.
Brahn
Having never read the book, you don't know the first thing about the concepts presented within.
Having never read the book, you don't know the first thing about the concepts presented within.
"party in houston...come on down this weekend."
Better not say that, I am only 4 hours away...
Will there be double-stufffed Oreos there?
Better not say that, I am only 4 hours away...
Will there be double-stufffed Oreos there?
Brahn
It isn't about playing games. It is about having your own life and not expecting a man to fufill every roll in your life.
But thank you for proving yourself yet again.
It isn't about playing games. It is about having your own life and not expecting a man to fufill every roll in your life.
But thank you for proving yourself yet again.
where are ya, al?
have oreos, will party
have oreos, will party
Atom is just sitting back reading this post that is basically woman to woman. Feeling more like a PEEPING A Tom. Ha!
Freaky: Ate a whole stack of Oreos last night. What does THAT mean???
Freaky: Ate a whole stack of Oreos last night. What does THAT mean???
ever had the strawberry creme stuffed oreos? crap
don't mess with a good thing
Shaka, definitely not a woman. i'm still drooling over here
you're 23?
damn
damn
Yeah ... no kidding!
Come here little boy ... I have some cookies for you. LMAO!
Come here little boy ... I have some cookies for you. LMAO!
Oh yeah, I saw that photo you swiped from GQ. Those Oreos musta created that six pack---and no offense about the woman to woman conversation. It's easy to see these girls LUV you not matter what age you are. (Gee, I remember being 23. I "think." Hmmm.)Sometimes it's fun to just sit back and see where the chat goes.
And, BARF, with the Oreos and strawberry creme. Yow!
Now back to my coffee.
And, BARF, with the Oreos and strawberry creme. Yow!
Now back to my coffee.
"where are ya, al?"
Dallas. Just a Texas sized hop, skip, and a jump away...
"don't mess with a good thing"
I completely agree.
Dallas. Just a Texas sized hop, skip, and a jump away...
"don't mess with a good thing"
I completely agree.
Oh, hmmm... Okay. Don't think I really have a problem with that (the concept or the implementation).
Alcheme, just pick it up you will see what LS is saying. I didn't think I had a problem with that either, but in some ways we don't recognize that we do. Also, like LS said, it is'nt about being a bitch in the true sense, it is about being responsible for your own happiness with or without a man... And just how you can let them know that without words per se.
Alcheme, just pick it up you will see what LS is saying. I didn't think I had a problem with that either, but in some ways we don't recognize that we do. Also, like LS said, it is'nt about being a bitch in the true sense, it is about being responsible for your own happiness with or without a man... And just how you can let them know that without words per se.
@ shakaDamn these fine and attractive youngsters. When I am fourty, you guys will be the only ones I look for. LMAO!!!
doh, guess i could have checked your profile to find out you were in dallas.
I thought the title of the book was actually quite misleading
It's just a bit of insight information, witchcraft tactics, to be liked by a guy...
Little Sparrow, it doesn't matter what concepts it presented. This is obviously what QueenScorpio took from the book. Basically she believes the book enables her to play games by pretending like she doesn't care when she does. Dare I say that the concept of "cookiemonster" is more or less just another way of playing "hard to get"? Which is essentially childish anyway
-- Branh --OK, clearly you haven't read it. Read it and get back to me. In case you haven't notice I am in my 30's way beyond the age of playing games (that is mostly the male department anyway) Being a bitch in this sense isn't about playing hard to get or anything else, it just shows women how to be with men in general and you would probably agree if you picked up a copy.
Do you like whiney overly dependant women? Do you like a woman who can't make decisions on what she perfers other than soley what you perfer? Do you like women who don't have a life of her own and she sits around and nags for your time? Think not. So be grateful for this book. --
I wouldn't heed that advice. Acting like a cookiemonster is a sure way to get dumped. If a man is putting up with it, he is not really putting up with it. He may just be seeing another woman to offset the stress of being with you. Other men probably wouldn't bother with you in the first place. Whoever wrote such a book is a fraud, through and through. And totally cashed in on the nativity of little girls thinking they are women. I don't know what is scary. The fact that someone gave this advice, or the fact that someone actually listened to it
-- Like I said, pick up a copy and you might be eating your own words for dinner -- Way to mature for games partner.
-- Branh --OK, clearly you haven't read it. Read it and get back to me. In case you haven't notice I am in my 30's way beyond the age of playing games (that is mostly the male department anyway) Being a bitch in this sense isn't about playing hard to get or anything else, it just shows women how to be with men in general and you would probably agree if you picked up a copy.
Do you like whiney overly dependant women? Do you like a woman who can't make decisions on what she perfers other than soley what you perfer? Do you like women who don't have a life of her own and she sits around and nags for your time? Think not. So be grateful for this book. --
I wouldn't heed that advice. Acting like a cookiemonster is a sure way to get dumped. If a man is putting up with it, he is not really putting up with it. He may just be seeing another woman to offset the stress of being with you. Other men probably wouldn't bother with you in the first place. Whoever wrote such a book is a fraud, through and through. And totally cashed in on the nativity of little girls thinking they are women. I don't know what is scary. The fact that someone gave this advice, or the fact that someone actually listened to it
-- Like I said, pick up a copy and you might be eating your own words for dinner -- Way to mature for games partner.
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There's a HUGE difference between being a bitch and being busy and aloof. Being the latter is called being independant, which is generally desireable.
That book sounds like a crock.
That book sounds like a crock.
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There's nothing wrong, man or woman, with treating yourself well though. I don't think the title does the book any justice.
QS, Have you had enough FLACK yet? Geeeesh!
Again, Talk dark and aries, pick it up and browse through it!!! You would probably agree with what it says and yes when you look at the title of the book from the carnel eye it doesn't do the book justice at all. REMEMBER DON'T JUDGE A BOOK BY IT'S COVER. So, until you read it don't judge. I think it is a great read for men as well as they will probably agree with the points!!! In fact I am sure most will.
Atom as you can see, never too much flack that I can't respond to.
Atom as you can see, never too much flack that I can't respond to.
As long as you can swear it isn't another one of those feminist, demasculating men for the sake of making women more "powerful" (Ironic) books then I might be interested in browsing through it.
Just by the title it sounds kind of upsetting. I mean after all, any nice guy with a little life experience could write a book on why women love aholes. But why focus on that?
Just by the title it sounds kind of upsetting. I mean after all, any nice guy with a little life experience could write a book on why women love aholes. But why focus on that?
Nic, you get back on the board and this is the thread you decided to respond to? I promise it is not what you think. You my dear, I am sure will agree with it.
Wow, QS, you did your magic and made your topic VERY interesting---even nic' responded!
I know.
The problem of female power, dearest Nic, is that generally it is stripped from women from the getgo. Women are trained into submission and overgiving which of course, unbalances them and they begin to pin all their hopes and expectations on a man. They sacrifice their lives and happiness for men, expecting men to fill the gaps. Which of course, makes no one happy. As women cling, men feel smothered.
A lot of women are too nice, which by argov's definition, means they overgive and as a direct result become weak, needy, clingy. Her theory suggests that men prefer self-empowered women who stand up for themselves, not in an aggressive or nasty way, but in a sweet way by having boundaries and standing by them. The martyrs who constantly sacrifices themselves are highly unattractive as are the drama queen and the emotionally needy. The book is really about self-respect and how to take care of yourself. Her basic thesis is that men really want strong women they can respect, not mothers, not slaves, not martyrs. It is a philosophy I greatly believe in as I believe love cannot exist without respect.
A lot of women are too nice, which by argov's definition, means they overgive and as a direct result become weak, needy, clingy. Her theory suggests that men prefer self-empowered women who stand up for themselves, not in an aggressive or nasty way, but in a sweet way by having boundaries and standing by them. The martyrs who constantly sacrifices themselves are highly unattractive as are the drama queen and the emotionally needy. The book is really about self-respect and how to take care of yourself. Her basic thesis is that men really want strong women they can respect, not mothers, not slaves, not martyrs. It is a philosophy I greatly believe in as I believe love cannot exist without respect.
Right on Merc.
I believe trust is a huge issue and it is of a much grander scope than most of us believe. Most people associate trust with you won't cheat on me but it is really much deeper. In the context of this book, one could say that a man needs to trust that a woman can take care of herself and not become a burden to him. A man needs to trust that a woman knows her limits and will stand by them if he pushes her to far. A man need to trust that a woman will act with dignity and respect both of herself and for him. A man needs to trust that a woman is strong enough to own her end of the relationship.
In someways, I think both partners need to say I trust you to be yourself, look after yourself, and know yourself well enough to give me the opportunity to make you genuinely happy and meet your needs. I trust you to want me, never need me. And in that, there is great sex appeal and true connections can be made.
I believe trust is a huge issue and it is of a much grander scope than most of us believe. Most people associate trust with you won't cheat on me but it is really much deeper. In the context of this book, one could say that a man needs to trust that a woman can take care of herself and not become a burden to him. A man needs to trust that a woman knows her limits and will stand by them if he pushes her to far. A man need to trust that a woman will act with dignity and respect both of herself and for him. A man needs to trust that a woman is strong enough to own her end of the relationship.
In someways, I think both partners need to say I trust you to be yourself, look after yourself, and know yourself well enough to give me the opportunity to make you genuinely happy and meet your needs. I trust you to want me, never need me. And in that, there is great sex appeal and true connections can be made.
Applies to both sexes, LS.
True. I think we live in a society where women are ingrained with a sense of worthlessness and men are ingrained with a sense of entitlement. Women generally have a hard time with boundaries and men generally will overstep a woman's boundaries, leaving her depleted and needy. This imbalance and duality, set up by the society we live in, leaves both sexes defeated. We all long for true connections and until men and women see each other as allies NOT competition, it will be a struggle. I do believe it is possible. what can I say? I am an optimist! lol!
Women are taught to kling. Men are taught to flee. But it is not hopeless.
Women are taught to kling. Men are taught to flee. But it is not hopeless.
Can always depend on LS to bring it home... You are an excellent team mate!!! Thanks girl. Tell it!!
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