Lost Faith in God Today

So today I lost faith in God. I still believe in his existence but I dont think he cares about us, what we do or say. I dont think he intervenes or answers prayers like religion teaches. To be honest I'm not sure what his purpose is since he does nothing but I am wondering what should I study or look into? I want to stay spiritual, I need to have something to believe in but it wont be God.

Also does this make me agnostic? I wouldnt be atheist since i believe there is a God.

Posted by MarchPisc3s
Yahawashi answers prayers in different way more ways than one. Losing faith only shows how much patience you really have because you want it at your expense rather than it being brought to you. As a Pisces we tend to rush things rather than waiting. We have to do better.

No, I grew up religious and took it very seriously. But it's taken 24 years for this to happen.

If God wanted me to believe in him, he would of given me reason to in 24 years. I just dont see the point in blind faith. Seems rather cruel if you ask me..

He may not come when you want him to but he's always on time.

What made you lose your faith?

I think religion is all about having blind faith in the unseen, finding comfort in numbers and throwing logic out the window.

All this fucked up shit going on but you're supposed to find solace in knowing it's 'all part of his plan' or who knows what. FOH.

Just don't be Catholic and you'll be good.

Posted by K_1018
Everything does not need to be defined.

That's the key.

It's not like a name will help the person having a better knack of something that just cannot be explained.

Well you better find it!

Amazing.

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Posted by themagnetoreborn
Well you better find it!

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Everyone is entitled to their own opinion and belief.. Why is it so damn important to you that everyone shares yours? It's a common theme among this religion and it's sickening.

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That's your problem, not mine. I have a duty to perform.

Formally, I guess believing in a noninterventionist God would indeed make you an agnostic.

Your post brings to mind an old French Canadian movie that I can strongly recommend called "Jesus of Montreal". It's a bit strange, parts are a bit boring, but the significance is truly memorable:

God and miracles are ALL around us, we need only open our eyes and SEE.

It's difficult when you experience things that destroy your belief in God. Been there. What you do with the aftermath of that catharsis is up to you. I'm sorry I don't have any answers for you. I'm still searching for answers myself.

Posted by malloryor
So today I lost faith in God. I still believe in his existence but I dont think he cares about us, what we do or say. I dont think he intervenes or answers prayers like religion teaches. To be honest I'm not sure what his purpose is since he does nothing but I am wondering what should I study or look into? I want to stay spiritual, I need to have something to believe in but it wont be God.

Also does this make me agnostic? I wouldnt be atheist since i believe there is a God.

I FEEL the same. I'm very broken down and confused. The thing that assures me about the Bible is the prophecy if anything else. So yes, it's blind faith with the history but why would the prophecy be continuously coming alive while the other stuff isn't true? The Bible even states a "great falling away" as a sign that the clock is ticking. We were a nation under God but the belief in the Jewish God is dropping dramatically. I mean, here you and I are talking about our confusion but the thing is, I've seen major signs in my life. You have to pay attention and not focus on what you want immediately. You may not be ready for what you want. The outcome of that may be worse than you think.

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Well you better find it!

??

Everyone is entitled to their own opinion and belief.. Why is it so damn important to you that everyone shares yours? It's a common theme among this religion and it's sickening.

That's your problem, not mine. I have a duty to perform.

No.. it's not my problem at all.. It's yours and your entire religions. I'm not the one pushing or trying to force beliefs..

Your duty is to live your OWN life.. not try to manipulate others beliefs. That's what your God wants of you?

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I'm curious to know what your mbti personality type is; that would certainly shed a light on your odd views of religion and the world. I just found out I'm an ENFJ (not ESFJ like I thought before). I would not be surprised if you were ISTP.

Posted by malloryor
So today I lost faith in God. I still believe in his existence but I dont think he cares about us, what we do or say. I dont think he intervenes or answers prayers like religion teaches. To be honest I'm not sure what his purpose is since he does nothing but I am wondering what should I study or look into? I want to stay spiritual, I need to have something to believe in but it wont be God.

Also does this make me agnostic? I wouldnt be atheist since i believe there is a God.

This only makes you sound like you're blaming an outer source for your own problems. Which is basically what you wrote above translates into.

@malloryor

No one can have faith on an imaginary "person" or entity. Even an entity is just a different name to make it appear like from the other world.

God was created to hold facts no man could/can explain.

Science was limited many years ago.

A religion was funded to manipulate people's faith based on that God.

Among cultures the name changed and so the religion

When you say you lost faith in God, actually you're loosing faith on yourself.

God is inside you. You have to find it inside not outside.

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Well you better find it!

??

Everyone is entitled to their own opinion and belief.. Why is it so damn important to you that everyone shares yours? It's a common theme among this religion and it's sickening.

That's your problem, not mine. I have a duty to perform.

No.. it's not my problem at all.. It's yours and your entire religions. I'm not the one pushing or trying to force beliefs..

Your duty is to live your OWN life.. not try to manipulate others beliefs. That's what your God wants of you?

I'm curious to know what your mbti personality type is; that would certainly shed a light on your odd views of religion and the world. I just found out I'm an ENFJ (not ESFJ like I thought before). I would not be surprised if you were ISTP.

INTJ, Sometimes I get INFJ, But normally it's INTJ..

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Rationalist. Nope don't want none.

Desiderata - Max Ehrmann c.1920

Go placidly amid the noise and haste, and remember what peace there may be in silence.

As far as possible, without surrender, be on good terms with all persons. Speak your truth quietly and clearly; and listen to others, even to the dull and the ignorant, they too have their story. Avoid loud and aggressive persons, they are vexations to the spirit.

If you compare yourself with others, you may become vain and bitter; for always there will be greater and lesser persons than yourself. Enjoy your achievements as well as your plans. Keep interested in your own career, however humble; it is a real possession in the changing fortunes of time.

Exercise caution in your business affairs, for the world is full of trickery. But let this not blind you to what virtue there is; many persons strive for high ideals, and everywhere life is full of heroism. Be yourself. Especially, do not feign affection. Neither be cynical about love, for in the face of all aridity and disenchantment it is perennial as the grass.

Take kindly to the counsel of the years, gracefully surrendering the things of youth. Nurture strength of spirit to shield you in sudden misfortune. But do not distress yourself with dark imaginings. Many fears are born of fatigue and loneliness.

Beyond a wholesome discipline, be gentle with yourself. You are a child of the universe, no less than the trees and the stars; you have a right to be here. And whether or not it is clear to you, no doubt the universe is unfolding as it should.

Therefore be at peace with God, whatever you conceive Him to be, and whatever your labors and aspirations, in the noisy confusion of life, keep peace in your soul.

With all its sham, drudgery and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world.

Be cheerful. Strive to be happy.

Posted by RamOfPeace

Posted by malloryor
So today I lost faith in God. I still believe in his existence but I dont think he cares about us, what we do or say. I dont think he intervenes or answers prayers like religion teaches. To be honest I'm not sure what his purpose is since he does nothing but I am wondering what should I study or look into? I want to stay spiritual, I need to have something to believe in but it wont be God.

Also does this make me agnostic? I wouldnt be atheist since i believe there is a God.

This only makes you sound like you're blaming an outer source for your own problems. Which is basically what you wrote above translates into.

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Typical presumptious ram. No. I simply do not believe there is a purpose in God. So why believe.

Posted by nando2002
@malloryor

No one can have faith on an imaginary "person" or entity. Even an entity is just a different name to make it appear like from the other world.

God was created to hold facts no man could/can explain.

Science was limited many years ago.

A religion was funded to manipulate people's faith based on that God.

Among cultures the name changed and so the religion

When you say you lost faith in God, actually you're loosing faith on yourself.

God is inside you. You have to find it inside not outside.

No. I do not believe I am in a God or God. To me that just feels wrong..maybe my religious upbringing. But when i say I do not believe in God, I mean in the Christian God.

Posted by DMV
He may not come when you want him to but he's always on time.

What made you lose your faith?

Put it this way. When a new mother or father brings home their child for the first time, the child may recognize their voice from being in the womb and they instinctivrly know they should depend on their parents for their needs. But it is the parents job to feed the newborn on time, to hold and shower it with love when it needs comfort, to bathe it when dirty. Overtime if the parent fails to do that. The child loses trust and faith in the security that is promised in that relationship.

That is how I see the relationship between God and us. His so called children. I see a lot of us having unwavering faith like a newborn that knows no better but a neglectful parent, God.

Posted by malloryor
But when i say I do not believe in God, I mean in the Christian God.

God is just an expression used to name something different from us.

There's no difference between other entities in different cultures or beliefs.

It's all the same thing.

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Posted by malloryor
But when i say I do not believe in God, I mean in the Christian God.

God is just an expression used to name something different from us.

There's no difference between other entities in different cultures or beliefs.

It's all the same thing.

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Yes I am aware that God of Islam is God of Christianity and so forth. I am speaking solely from my religious upbringing.

Posted by malloryor
So today I lost faith in God. I still believe in his existence but I dont think he cares about us, what we do or say. I dont think he intervenes or answers prayers like religion teaches. To be honest I'm not sure what his purpose is since he does nothing but I am wondering what should I study or look into? I want to stay spiritual, I need to have something to believe in but it wont be God.

Also does this make me agnostic? I wouldnt be atheist since i believe there is a God.

You lost faith in yourself. Not God.

I don't think there is a book on earth that can teach you that.

It comes from self reflection and learning not to put your faith in man. Which is probably the reason for your thread.

Posted by PiscesArt
I dont believe in god. I belive in Karma.

If you believe in karma. That means you believe there is an invisible force at work to make things balance.

What do you call the force that you feel will make another reap what they sow ?

I am really curious about your answer. I am not trying to debate or anything like that...looking for a different point of view

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Posted by Plagued
God is within, look inside not up, religion is someone elses experience. Find yours through higher self.

This was worded fucking perfectly!!

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I am for faith but I am not for church.... so many pretentious people, who are blindly following some restrictions in their words and not in their actions....

for me (I am a Catholic- Cristian), what I believe is, that some x years ago, there was a man who told others: be kind to others, love others, do no harm, forgive... etc. and people followed him.... It is proven he existed by historical facts (written by roman empire historics, so its believable - I mean, they didnt have any reason to make it up)

I never read the Bible and I am sceptical to church, because the church nearly destroyed faith over the centuries for money and greed (and to keep ordinary people in their place by threatening them with revenge and evil and hell)

God is within you

and remember: help yourself and God will help you..... not actionless blind prayers, but acts of kindness and love and faith, and he will respond

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I dont believe in god. I belive in Karma.

If you believe in karma. That means you believe there is an invisible force at work to make things balance.

What do you call the force that you feel will make another reap what they sow ?

I am really curious about your answer. I am not trying to debate or anything like that...looking for a different point of view

karma being a form of energy is not stored anywhere..not in body,not in consciousness, not in Universe but comes into being under certain conditions. It is a universal law which has no religious label. It is called a law of cause and effect: every cause has an effect..explained in other way one will reap what has sown; we are result of what we were, and we will be result of what we are. Karma is one of the factors which are responisble for the success and failure of our lives..

Effort or inteligence are one of the most important factors that afect the working of karma. if we dont make the efort to cure our disease or save ourselves from difficuties, or to strive with diligence in progress, then evil karma will find a suitble oportunity to manifest itself.

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Universal law. I figured you would use that.

Energy has a source. But whatever sounds good lol

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It's okay OP, the starving children in Africa can relate to the way you're feeling right now.

How does your prerogative help the starving children?

Ok so a prerogative is a right, entitlement or privilege. I assume you're asking me how does my privilege help the starving children?

Then you basically just deflected my point that the almighty God doesn't help them, and are now placing the responsibility onto me, a flawed selfish powerless human born a sinner that sins everyday. Your deflection isn't going to restore OP's faith. Nor would your guilt-tripping restore mine.

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But he makes an excellent point.

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Posted by PiscesArt
I dont believe in god. I belive in Karma.

If you believe in karma. That means you believe there is an invisible force at work to make things balance.

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So karma is Adam Smith's invisible hand?

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It's okay OP, the starving children in Africa can relate to the way you're feeling right now.

How does your prerogative help the starving children?

Ok so a prerogative is a right, entitlement or privilege. I assume you're asking me how does my privilege help the starving children?

Then you basically just deflected my point that the almighty God doesn't help them, and are now placing the responsibility onto me, a flawed selfish powerless human born a sinner that sins everyday. Your deflection isn't going to restore OP's faith. Nor would your guilt-tripping restore mine.

But he makes an excellent point.

How is that an excellent point? It seems like I'm being compared to God, or my lack of faith in him isn't being acknowledged because I'm not saving the suffering people in this world that he isn't saving?

I'm still yet to understand the point you guys are trying to come across. Is it also my duty to cure the blind and heal all those born with handicaps? What should I be doing before I'm allowed to say God doesn't exist?

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Of course.

Why should you be expected to do anything.

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Posted by PiscesArt
I dont believe in god. I belive in Karma.

If you believe in karma. That means you believe there is an invisible force at work to make things balance.

So karma is Adam Smith's invisible hand?

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Not sure what you're talking about

"God" is dog backwards. You aren't spiritual if you're questioning such simple things. "I don't think he care about us" and this is coming from a spiritual individual? ha

Posted by SagiScorp
It's okay OP, the starving children in Africa can relate to the way you're feeling right now.

things happens for a reason, and you can't blame the Divine for everything. There is a plan. Lack of faith is why you weak mf's won't make it.

Divinity doesn't exist? Yet, tress are here, plants, butterflies grasshoppers and ETC. You're questioning if there's a SOURCE? crazy

Posted by MarchPisc3s
Yahawashi answers prayers in different way more ways than one. Losing faith only shows how much patience you really have because you want it at your expense rather than it being brought to you. As a Pisces we tend to rush things rather than waiting. We have to do better.

these mf's are WEAK! so many times I've lost faith but not in him, universe, angels but in humanity! I'm reminded daily that I'm guided and protected. it angers me how others fail to see!

Posted by DMV
He may not come when you want him to but he's always on time.

What made you lose your faith?

They only call on The Divine when they need something! No graditude any other time. She probably believes her lack of faith is doing something for her. She'll regret it if she doesn't change her mindset and beliefs before it's too late. Real talk

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Posted by PiscesArt
I dont believe in god. I belive in Karma.

If you believe in karma. That means you believe there is an invisible force at work to make things balance.

What do you call the force that you feel will make another reap what they sow ?

I am really curious about your answer. I am not trying to debate or anything like that...looking for a different point of view

karma being a form of energy is not stored anywhere..not in body,not in consciousness, not in Universe but comes into being under certain conditions. It is a universal law which has no religious label. It is called a law of cause and effect: every cause has an effect..explained in other way one will reap what has sown; we are result of what we were, and we will be result of what we are. Karma is one of the factors which are responisble for the success and failure of our lives..

Effort or inteligence are one of the most important factors that afect the working of karma. if we dont make the efort to cure our disease or save ourselves from difficuties, or to strive with diligence in progress, then evil karma will find a suitble oportunity to manifest itself.

Universal law. I figured you would use that.

Energy has a source. But whatever sounds good lol

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let them sleep

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Posted by MarchPisc3s
Yahawashi answers prayers in different way more ways than one. Losing faith only shows how much patience you really have because you want it at your expense rather than it being brought to you. As a Pisces we tend to rush things rather than waiting. We have to do better.

these mf's are WEAK! so many times I've lost faith but not in him, universe, angels but in humanity! I'm reminded daily that I'm guided and protected. it angers me how others fail to see!

Understandable, when you're bombarded with so much negativity it becomes easy to give and lose hope but it's all temporary. I didn't grew up religious if anything I said fuck going to church, listening to church music etc, recently I started studying up on YaHawa. I just have religious beliefs but have no religion.

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facts. same here. I always hated church because I know how much bs it was.

OP,

I thought this was you until I seen it was Zoë Kravitz. L

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It's okay OP, the starving children in Africa can relate to the way you're feeling right now.

things happens for a reason, and you can't blame the Divine for everything. There is a plan. Lack of faith is why you weak mf's won't make it.

*For every single good thing that happens* - praise the Lord

*For every single bad thing that happens* - things happens for a reason, and you can't blame the Divine for everything.



Love that double standard. And having faith in something does not always equate to strength. It could just as easily equate to weakness and delusion, because believing in otherwise would be too bleak and painful for the individual.

Nice flooding the page with your rants btw. I'm done here.

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I didn't read nothing you said, sheep. thanks for the energy though

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@TheChosenOne

Some of your recent quotes:

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no ugly girls on the thread, thx

get some melanin, thx

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you're an ugly white girl, your opinions don't matter here

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You look ugly as fuck and you're going to birth recessive, ginger headed, freckled children because your DNA is shit. Peace caveman.

Tell me, what business does a racist, hateful person such as yourself have judging non-believers and preaching about God? You're making religious people look bad. Just stop.

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Misinformaility. Lack of knowledge. Peace and blessings to you. I never said anything about "God," I said DIVINITY. No I'm not religious. Spiritual.

If you knew of anything, you'd know "God" is stone, "Gods" can't speak to you. Bless you anyway. Peace to you and yours.

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@TheChosenOne

Some of your recent quotes:

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no ugly girls on the thread, thx

get some melanin, thx

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you're an ugly white girl, your opinions don't matter here

Posted by TheChosenOne
You look ugly as fuck and you're going to birth recessive, ginger headed, freckled children because your DNA is shit. Peace caveman.

Tell me, what business does a racist, hateful person such as yourself have judging non-believers and preaching about God? You're making religious people look bad. Just stop.

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I know what I've posted. I truly don't care what you say you're a confused soul. Again, peace to you. Who even has time to look for my other posts? You have too much time on your hands, but again, peace and blessing to you.

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Posted by DMV
He may not come when you want him to but he's always on time.

What made you lose your faith?

They only call on The Divine when they need something! No graditude any other time. She probably believes her lack of faith is doing something for her. She'll regret it if she doesn't change her mindset and beliefs before it's too late. Real talk

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You do not know my walk with God, my struggles, my life or why I have come to where I have come. I may be questioning God's presence in my life but one thing I surely have never forgotten was the teachings of mercy and compassion. Two things you have clearly never mastered nor heeded by the word to learn, so really you have no business talking, no business to act as a witness for God when you use reckless wording like MF, make grand assumptions without any real conscious thought. Some witness.

I get you. I never lost faith though. I've learned to look at God as my guide, not the answer. To ultimately recognize him as the driving force that has given me the necessary tools to carry out my good will easier, if that makes sense. A little more hopeful than what you have described.

(Can't believe I'm mentioning this) but this was all due to me losing my dog to an extremely rare cancer at the age of 5 😢 I had given him away and yearned for him back for two years. I'll make a real long story short, but basically I had been studying a lot about alternative medicine and cancer. It was a new hobby I took on with no real intention. But the things I learned really shook my world. And had been ignoring all of that, not sharing my knowledge and not practicing living better even though I knew I should have. I still blatantly followed my ignorance bc why not right? Well the universe saw that and made me pay for it through the only thing i had. And it may be very hard to understand the importance of an animal in ones life, but it really does feel like your own baby.

So here i am full time student studying to be a vet, pushing almost 50 hr/week in a vet clinic going through an existential life crisis. I couldn't stand to see the clients come in with their sick pets, the vets I worked with suddenly disgusted me, bc the whole ordeal really shed light on the dark side of medical ethics. And I trusted the medical field with vehemence up until that point. Everything I knew and lived by, what I thought I was- a compete lie. Where was my god and why would he allow this to happen? He knew how much I loved him. To take him away within a week, by cancer of all things at that exact point in my life when i hadn't even had him for long like why? Didn't make sense..

Until I realized the universe wanted me to wake tf up. Get my head out my ass and DO something REAL. God was sick of my shit. Sick of me not applying myself, wasting his gift, not carrying out my good will to full potential. When I got done sulking (bc I was so lost and in need of answers as to my own purpose or point of literally anything in life), I realized that love my dog made me feel and gave me was boundless and can be found in many forms. It was my duty to find, embody, utilize, and share that finally. It was a real wake up call.

I laughed at the idea of practicing veterinary medicine. I knew my purpose was to treat disease and not its symptoms and I didnt want to be a cog in a completely useless machine. I shifted my focuses to bio-med research and conservation. I read philosophy heavily because it really helped with the existential life crisis I felt I was going through. Losing my pooch was the only way I could gain this. And although I would much rather have him and live a fool (which is obviously why I do not anymore lol) this kind of growth was fundamental to the woman I need to become.

You should try finding a gain through this loss. I think the world is telling you something

But you need to dig deep. I didn't reach that outcome quickly by any means and I still struggle with it a lot. I'm probably making it sound easy but it wasn't. I ended up losing like 12 pounds in a week and If it weren't for that philo course I took idk what I would've done. Maybe you should try that. Offers some answers for really deep question you might be having right now.

But my faith is unbroken because I know that Im bigger than that, and w.e ur going through, god knows you are too. You think you need him to serve you the answers on a silver platter and you don't. You can serve yourself the best plate. Gods only the chef. Sometimes the meal ain't that great but you gotta hook it up sis.

Was that a bad analogy? Haha

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I lost faith in God a long time ago. But I think the way it is perceived is the problem. God isn't this almighty being in the sky that listens to our prayers. The universe is a coincidental accident. We are all part of this limitless energy that is a driving force to the operations of our world. We, humans, are just another speck that was created by this energy, just like how plants, our oceans, air, other organisms, everything really, was created by this energy.

I'm proud to say that I'm a pantheist. You should look into pantheism. It's very obvious to me that without energy, nothing could exist. It's what keeps us and the entire universe going. I believe that the universe operates in spheres. A sphere is the only shape that is never ending and infinite. Our planets are shaped in spheres, as are our stars and black holes. We are part of this infinite loop of energy. There is no beginning and end to the universe, it is just infinite with many many layers that can bring itself back and so forth. We've barely touched the surface of how our universe works, and honestly, since we're 3 dimensional beings, we may never really be able to fully understand and grasp how it works.

But one thing is for certain, that can cross all dimensions, is this limitless energy that is making our world, our universe, move on. Look at gravity for example. Gravity can cross dimensions. It exists. Just toss something up in the air. You can't see it, but it's real. Regardless of whether or not humanity exists or doesn't exist, this energy will still manifest and keep the rest of the universe moving forward. God doesn't give a shit about what we do. We're just another organism on some other planet somewhere among thousands of other stars and planets.