
Economic Pros And Cons





Posted by Deedee86
Thats a hard one. I'm in NY and they are already phasing in $ 15 per hour for fast food workers. That puts them on par with more "skilled" positions and at a higher rate than school bus drivers and health aides.
If the minimum is higher than other pay rates need to raise accordingly or we will end up like communist Cuba where the doctor and the dishwasher make the same salary. The high school drop out rates would rise because the monetary incentive wouldn't be there. Unemployment would go up because many businesses couldn't afford to keep everyone on the payroll, prices would go up to try and keep the profit margin.
Currently, a person cannot raise a family working a minimum wage job (or even $ 15 p/h). Raising the wage would leave less dependent on social programs and improve poverty rates.

Posted by MrFirebirdPosted by Deedee86
Thats a hard one. I'm in NY and they are already phasing in $ 15 per hour for fast food workers. That puts them on par with more "skilled" positions and at a higher rate than school bus drivers and health aides.
If the minimum is higher than other pay rates need to raise accordingly or we will end up like communist Cuba where the doctor and the dishwasher make the same salary. The high school drop out rates would rise because the monetary incentive wouldn't be there. Unemployment would go up because many businesses couldn't afford to keep everyone on the payroll, prices would go up to try and keep the profit margin.
Currently, a person cannot raise a family working a minimum wage job (or even $ 15 p/h). Raising the wage would leave less dependent on social programs and improve poverty rates.
They are phasing it in? What is the old minimum wage standard at the fast food joints, there—?
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Posted by Deedee86I remember when you could get a Big Mac for about a $ 1.50Posted by MrFirebirdPosted by Deedee86
Thats a hard one. I'm in NY and they are already phasing in $ 15 per hour for fast food workers. That puts them on par with more "skilled" positions and at a higher rate than school bus drivers and health aides.
If the minimum is higher than other pay rates need to raise accordingly or we will end up like communist Cuba where the doctor and the dishwasher make the same salary. The high school drop out rates would rise because the monetary incentive wouldn't be there. Unemployment would go up because many businesses couldn't afford to keep everyone on the payroll, prices would go up to try and keep the profit margin.
Currently, a person cannot raise a family working a minimum wage job (or even $ 15 p/h). Raising the wage would leave less dependent on social programs and improve poverty rates.
They are phasing it in? What is the old minimum wage standard at the fast food joints, there—?
By 12/31/16 it is $ 11
$ 13 by 12/31/17
And $ 15 by 12/31/18
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Posted by MrFirebirdPosted by Deedee86I remember when you could get a Big Mac for about a $ 1.50Posted by MrFirebirdPosted by Deedee86
Thats a hard one. I'm in NY and they are already phasing in $ 15 per hour for fast food workers. That puts them on par with more "skilled" positions and at a higher rate than school bus drivers and health aides.
If the minimum is higher than other pay rates need to raise accordingly or we will end up like communist Cuba where the doctor and the dishwasher make the same salary. The high school drop out rates would rise because the monetary incentive wouldn't be there. Unemployment would go up because many businesses couldn't afford to keep everyone on the payroll, prices would go up to try and keep the profit margin.
Currently, a person cannot raise a family working a minimum wage job (or even $ 15 p/h). Raising the wage would leave less dependent on social programs and improve poverty rates.
They are phasing it in? What is the old minimum wage standard at the fast food joints, there—?
By 12/31/16 it is $ 11
$ 13 by 12/31/17
And $ 15 by 12/31/18
now it's about $ 5. When $ 15 per hour comes to town, that big mac is going to
be knocking on $ 10.00.
Insanity.
Those who are in poverty now, will be hit the hardest.
Fast food jobs are not meant to be a career. It's a typical "first job" type of employment.
I'm wondering if they are trying to kill the fast food industry...
They already killed the REAL industries that made this country as strong as it was.
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Posted by Deedee86wow 100k loan for a teaching profession? :/Posted by MrFirebirdPosted by Deedee86I remember when you could get a Big Mac for about a $ 1.50Posted by MrFirebirdPosted by Deedee86
Thats a hard one. I'm in NY and they are already phasing in $ 15 per hour for fast food workers. That puts them on par with more "skilled" positions and at a higher rate than school bus drivers and health aides.
If the minimum is higher than other pay rates need to raise accordingly or we will end up like communist Cuba where the doctor and the dishwasher make the same salary. The high school drop out rates would rise because the monetary incentive wouldn't be there. Unemployment would go up because many businesses couldn't afford to keep everyone on the payroll, prices would go up to try and keep the profit margin.
Currently, a person cannot raise a family working a minimum wage job (or even $ 15 p/h). Raising the wage would leave less dependent on social programs and improve poverty rates.
They are phasing it in? What is the old minimum wage standard at the fast food joints, there—?
By 12/31/16 it is $ 11
$ 13 by 12/31/17
And $ 15 by 12/31/18
now it's about $ 5. When $ 15 per hour comes to town, that big mac is going to
be knocking on $ 10.00.
Insanity.
Those who are in poverty now, will be hit the hardest.
Fast food jobs are not meant to be a career. It's a typical "first job" type of employment.
I'm wondering if they are trying to kill the fast food industry...
They already killed the REAL industries that made this country as strong as it was.
I'm going back to my communist theory. Let's make everyone equal and dependent.
I know people with teaching degrees that can't find a job and are working the deli counter at the grocery store. They are certainly regretting those 6 years in college and $ 100,000 in student loans.
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Posted by Deedee86I've hearing that too.Posted by MrFirebirdPosted by Deedee86I remember when you could get a Big Mac for about a $ 1.50Posted by MrFirebirdPosted by Deedee86
Thats a hard one. I'm in NY and they are already phasing in $ 15 per hour for fast food workers. That puts them on par with more "skilled" positions and at a higher rate than school bus drivers and health aides.
If the minimum is higher than other pay rates need to raise accordingly or we will end up like communist Cuba where the doctor and the dishwasher make the same salary. The high school drop out rates would rise because the monetary incentive wouldn't be there. Unemployment would go up because many businesses couldn't afford to keep everyone on the payroll, prices would go up to try and keep the profit margin.
Currently, a person cannot raise a family working a minimum wage job (or even $ 15 p/h). Raising the wage would leave less dependent on social programs and improve poverty rates.
They are phasing it in? What is the old minimum wage standard at the fast food joints, there—?
By 12/31/16 it is $ 11
$ 13 by 12/31/17
And $ 15 by 12/31/18
now it's about $ 5. When $ 15 per hour comes to town, that big mac is going to
be knocking on $ 10.00.
Insanity.
Those who are in poverty now, will be hit the hardest.
Fast food jobs are not meant to be a career. It's a typical "first job" type of employment.
I'm wondering if they are trying to kill the fast food industry...
They already killed the REAL industries that made this country as strong as it was.
I'm going back to my communist theory. Let's make everyone equal and dependent.
I know people with teaching degrees that can't find a job and are working the deli counter at the grocery store. They are certainly regretting those 6 years in college and $ 100,000 in student loans.
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Posted by MrFirebirdI still owe $ 30,000 and my own son will be in college in less than 3 years! I hoping to help him enough where he won't need loans.
100k isn't unthinkable. My Aunt has a bigger bill than that and she is STILL paying on it after
nearly 30 years teaching. And that bill's more than the 100k.




Posted by MrFirebird
I would just encourage people to really give this $ 15 per hour business some serious thought.
The US Government is a clumsy stupid ox that is full of people who really
don't know what they're doing or don't care.
Now they are talking about autonomous commercial trucks..... BADDDDDDDDDDDDDD IDEA!!!
IMHO, it's time for a REAL blood and guts war. When it takes place or what sets it off...
I don't know.. but the mood is being shaped.
25 years ago we were already saying "There's going to be a revolution in this country".
But I think it's too late. Most people are too dumbed down and/or complacent to
consider what's really unfolding. Instead, it's daffydill from dopeyville mentality...
"My ex boyfriend texted me from France. So do you think I should text back? NO, I never met him"
Or...
"dude, if you want to be gay, it's cool. My video game is gay"
That's the kind of crap people think about these days.
grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
Posted by Deedee86lol judging by the statistics and the millions who watch kardasians, ect.Posted by MrFirebird
I would just encourage people to really give this $ 15 per hour business some serious thought.
The US Government is a clumsy stupid ox that is full of people who really
don't know what they're doing or don't care.
Now they are talking about autonomous commercial trucks..... BADDDDDDDDDDDDDD IDEA!!!
IMHO, it's time for a REAL blood and guts war. When it takes place or what sets it off...
I don't know.. but the mood is being shaped.
25 years ago we were already saying "There's going to be a revolution in this country".
But I think it's too late. Most people are too dumbed down and/or complacent to
consider what's really unfolding. Instead, it's daffydill from dopeyville mentality...
"My ex boyfriend texted me from France. So do you think I should text back? NO, I never met him"
Or...
"dude, if you want to be gay, it's cool. My video game is gay"
That's the kind of crap people think about these days.
grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
Or selfie of the day or mannequin challenge (the fact that standing still is a challenge kills me).
It's the dumbing down of society. Let's worry about what the Kardashian's are doing so we don't have to focus on the shit that is really happening.
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Posted by Deedee86yup
Some people are quick to criticize working mothers but a lot of it is based on necessity. I'm sure many women would love to stay at home with their babies but it has become very difficult to live in one income. Cost of living is just too high. It's not like 60 years ago when dad could put in 40 hours a week at the factory and be able to afford a house and a car.
I make well over $ 15 per hour. I have a decent business plus a job plus child support plus a rental house and I still struggle. It all looks good on paper but the bills are outrageous.

Posted by VivaciousScorpioBecause that is how it is, bubble boy.Posted by MrFirebirdCost of living goes up each year. I don't see why the minimum wage should be kept so low year after year.
HS dropout gets a job at the grocery store. Makes $ 15 per hour.
Store has to raise the prices to maintain profit margin.
Profit margin is impacted by ALL operating expenses within that grocery store,
all vendors that store distributes, the transportation of said commodities.
Landlord says, Sorry folks, gotta raise the rent.
The pros are going to be VERY short lived. EVERYONE will end up charging more, for goods, services,
utilities, housing and transportation, healthcare, education, etc., etc., etc..
Because a bunch of spoiled rotten unappreciative liberal brats who think they are worth more, but don't
have the brains, the skill, and the know-how to find the job that pays more, the rest are going to have
to take the hit..... BAD!
The federal, state, and local governments will end up benefiting from more artificially generated
tax revenue. BAD! the politicians in Government already rob the people as it is...
In the end, nothing is going to change.
It's simple economics.
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Posted by Deedee86Charlotte Iserbyt talked about "The Deliberate Dumbing Down of America"Posted by MrFirebird
I would just encourage people to really give this $ 15 per hour business some serious thought.
The US Government is a clumsy stupid ox that is full of people who really
don't know what they're doing or don't care.
Now they are talking about autonomous commercial trucks..... BADDDDDDDDDDDDDD IDEA!!!
IMHO, it's time for a REAL blood and guts war. When it takes place or what sets it off...
I don't know.. but the mood is being shaped.
25 years ago we were already saying "There's going to be a revolution in this country".
But I think it's too late. Most people are too dumbed down and/or complacent to
consider what's really unfolding. Instead, it's daffydill from dopeyville mentality...
"My ex boyfriend texted me from France. So do you think I should text back? NO, I never met him"
Or...
"dude, if you want to be gay, it's cool. My video game is gay"
That's the kind of crap people think about these days.
grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
Or selfie of the day or mannequin challenge (the fact that standing still is a challenge kills me).
It's the dumbing down of society. Let's worry about what the Kardashian's are doing so we don't have to focus on the shit that is really happening.
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Posted by MrFirebirdOh sure...Posted by VivaciousScorpioBecause that is how it is, bubble boy.Posted by MrFirebirdCost of living goes up each year. I don't see why the minimum wage should be kept so low year after year.
HS dropout gets a job at the grocery store. Makes $ 15 per hour.
Store has to raise the prices to maintain profit margin.
Profit margin is impacted by ALL operating expenses within that grocery store,
all vendors that store distributes, the transportation of said commodities.
Landlord says, Sorry folks, gotta raise the rent.
The pros are going to be VERY short lived. EVERYONE will end up charging more, for goods, services,
utilities, housing and transportation, healthcare, education, etc., etc., etc..
Because a bunch of spoiled rotten unappreciative liberal brats who think they are worth more, but don't
have the brains, the skill, and the know-how to find the job that pays more, the rest are going to have
to take the hit..... BAD!
The federal, state, and local governments will end up benefiting from more artificially generated
tax revenue. BAD! the politicians in Government already rob the people as it is...
In the end, nothing is going to change.
It's simple economics.
It's to encourage people to strive to improve their lives. Not babysit them.
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