Astrology is NOT real.

So why do you still believe it?

Haven't thought of why?

Okay, it's not completely true in my book. But based on my learning thus far I've come to understand that there isn't any evidence for it yet still a very large amount of people that believe it.

I mainly use it when it's a convenience for me and when I see other people apply it I always think "well that can apply to anyone"


What do you guys think?

Why do you believe in Astrology?

@Virgochyld... I'm sorry I don't understand your question /:

I choose to believe in it..like anyone chooses to believe in anything.

Why do people believe in Religion?
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Why do we believe in anything? Because we choose to and maybe a part of it resonates with us.

In my case, I've seen a lot of pattern in my life..it can apply to Astrology or any other thought pattern and I chose Astrology.

Do I guide my life by it? No, I just enjoy talking about it, absorbing all info.

+ It's a good conversation starter.

@damnata... are you a religious person?

More spiritual than religious.

Well xtina,

I had for the majority of my life until maybe like 2.5-3 years ago concluded that stuff like this was a croc. But I decided to keep an open mind finally and give it a thorough looking into finally.

I wouldn't be here if I didn't think it had some merit to it. Why are you here xtina?

Posted by SwimmingLioness
I see religion as not tangible and requiring faith to exist.

Astrology is physical in nature and therefore, IMO,
doesn't fall under the definition of a belief.

Yes, there are not any physical scientific evidence to support the truth behind astrology so technically it's considered a belief.

But trust me I believe in astrology just trying to find a common ground between my beliefs (which I fully enjoy) and my logic.

Posted by NotYourAverageAquarius
Well xtina,

I had for the majority of my life until maybe like 2.5-3 years ago concluded that stuff like this was a croc. But I decided to keep an open mind finally and give it a thorough looking into finally.

I wouldn't be here if I didn't think it had some merit to it. Why are you here xtina?

Honestly, I really like the people on here. People from all walks of life that can turn my ideas upside down and right side up. It's a good and invigorating place to think of thinks and talk about thinks I would never really encounter in my normal day to day life. Plus, it's a lot of fun 🙂

Posted by aurora
lack of evidence isn't an argument for calling something unreal. if it was, human race would still live in a cave. i think that better question is, does astrology work? to answer that you would really have to be some kind of an expert in astrology first.

Tell that to my english prof.... lol kind of why I'm asking trying to write a paper in support of astrology and it's getting kind of difficult to support my beliefs.

Posted by geminicandIe
I was probably around 11-12 years old and I hung out a lot with older kids from my neighborhood. This one girl was super smart, she was already in her first year of college and one time she told me "you are such a Gemini". I think she did my chart and told me my rising is Taurus, although when I do it online it showd as Gemini rising.
That sparked my interest and it had been an on and off love affair with astrology, throughout my life.

Frankly, I turn to astrology when all other options have failed. When I need some explanation when nothing else makes sense. That is how I found dxp. I guess it's sort of like superstition. It can also be fun.
I stay on dxp, not neccesarily for astrology itself, but mostly for psychology, sociology, entertainment and social media. I don't have facebook, instagram, etc...

I hope this made sense. I am still half drunk, I have no idea what time it is due to clock change and I only had one small espresso. On top of that, my aunt called from Europe filling me with family gossip from like 1945:/
Fml, lol.

LOL, you WOULD! Haha good morning gemini candle!!

To be honest, though a part of me thinks astrology is bullshit another part still clings to it. I don't know why. I have tried to let it go through reason and logic... maybe I'm not trying hard enough... but it never works.

It's interesting to think we are such logical creatures when really we're not... be are a beautiful blending of both emotions and logic and I think that is what makes us unique.

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Posted by xtina

Posted by aurora
lack of evidence isn't an argument for calling something unreal. if it was, human race would still live in a cave. i think that better question is, does astrology work? to answer that you would really have to be some kind of an expert in astrology first.

Tell that to my english prof.... lol kind of why I'm asking trying to write a paper in support of astrology and it's getting kind of difficult to support my beliefs.

Give me his name & number and I'll talk to him.

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Ahem *she 😄

If enough evidence for astrology existed, then it would become something to know about. A science, not a belief system.

If there was enough proof astrology is false, nobody would really believe in it.

But there's not enough evidence, so people will believe in astrology until it's proven to be right/wrong.

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Posted by xtina
So why do you still believe it?

"Astrology is NOT real."

Neither is the typical individual's relationship with the external world, which is based on an artificial sociological construct, reinforced by conditioning. In some cases 20-30 years of conditioning, depending on how long the Individual has lived in Western material culture and to what degree they have accepted their conditioning that arose from same - that is, for instance, what mommy and daddy taught them.

Yet they still make it their life's mission to, say, find a man, or bend social circumstances to their will. Most of which is then discused in fora like this one, without any consideration that the problem is not out there but in here.

So if we're going to give our honest attention to *that* sort of thing, I don't think we can then rightly turn around and have any legitimate complaint about astrology, which is at the very least a systematized and cohesive body of knowledge. Unless we'd also like to do away with discussions about Buddhism or Islam, etc., which would obviously be juvenile in the extreme.

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You should read Politics in Language by George Orwell... interesting piece... you might find it helpful.

Posted by Jizzusizjizzin
If enough evidence for astrology existed, then it would become something to know about. A science, not a belief system.

If there was enough proof astrology is false, nobody would really believe in it.

But there's not enough evidence, so people will believe in astrology until it's proven to be right/wrong.

You could say that about any region on this Earth does that mean every religion is right? No.

I get what you're saying though... makes sense.

But since we are the ones that believe in it unfortunately the burden of proof is on us.

*religion NOT region -_-

Posted by SwimmingLioness

Posted by xtina

Posted by SwimmingLioness
I see religion as not tangible and requiring faith to exist.

Astrology is physical in nature and therefore, IMO,
doesn't fall under the definition of a belief.

Yes, there are not any physical scientific evidence to support the truth behind astrology so technically it's considered a belief.

But trust me I believe in astrology just trying to find a common ground between my beliefs (which I fully enjoy) and my logic.

No I wouldn't think modern science is advanced
enough to find evidence and arrive at conclusions
about the mechanics of astrology.

Learning about astrology has been amazing, and
answered a lot of questions about past experiences
in my life.

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Here's a question I want to pose to you and I'm not trying to attack you I actually want to thank you your post has got me thinking...

Then how do you find it okay (for a lack of better way to put it) that science has found everything else in your everyday livelihood such as food, health, transportation even this internent, and there has been research done to show that there is no evidence or bases for astrology because if astrology were true we would see more uniformity and predictability then we really do.

Science is based on predictability and astrology has been tested on it's predictability and by people who really believe in it too. I just read on this, a coupe unknown scientist who believed in astrology and they always come out empty handed.

How do you make it okay in your mind that science has been able to produce everything else in your life (ie. food and health) but when it fails to find evidence for astrology do you don't believe it has the capabilities to measure astrology?

Please let me know if I make sense never been to good at conveying myself.

The burden of proof is on anyone who asserts a claim.

I mean... What is this thing we call Science?

Just because we call "Science" By a name doesn't honestly give it any real power. Science by mankind's own admission is never able to really achieve law or science fact status.

History has always shown mankind that what we once thought we knew to be true... What we once thought we understood so intimately turned out to be a misunderstanding of the miracle that is the atmosphere around us that we witness everyday.

Posted by NotYourAverageAquarius
The burden of proof is on anyone who asserts a claim.

I mean... What is this thing we call Science?

Just because we call "Science" By a name doesn't honestly give it any real power. Science by mankind's own admission is never able to really achieve law or science fact status.

History has always shown mankind that what we once thought we knew to be true... What we once thought we understood so intimately turned out to be a misunderstanding of the miracle that is the atmosphere around us that we witness everyday.

Thats what Im trying to figure out.

In essence "science" is the form of logical, rational thought. Observations and backing those observations with evidence. It can still be argued that yes though there have been some stumble to get to where we are today science is always an ever changing process in which gives a complete contrast to religion.... not very good at explaining... but I like where you're going with this! Gives me a lot to think about 🙂

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Posted by Jizzusizjizzin
If enough evidence for astrology existed, then it would become something to know about. A science, not a belief system.

If there was enough proof astrology is false, nobody would really believe in it.

But there's not enough evidence, so people will believe in astrology until it's proven to be right/wrong.

You could say that about any region on this Earth does that mean every religion is right? No.

I get what you're saying though... makes sense.

But since we are the ones that believe in it unfortunately the burden of proof is on us.

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I don't really know about religions others than my own (Jizzusizjizzin-ism), so no comment there.

I'm not bothered by lack of proof to be honest. Not trying to prove anything to anyone.

You might find researching Michael Gauquelin helpful.

To answer the question you put to SL, there is an inherent bias in the scientific community against astrology. It is easy to not find something you have no real motivation to find.

Honestly I think if you are an avid student of astrology and have decent familiarization with people from all of the signs. You could very well be quite adept at guessing someone's sign based off of what you know about them and their daily habits.

I had guessed the girl I am currently dating was a Capricorn months and months before I ever found out she was.

And I have noticed the more I experience people from different signs and walks of life here on dxp the more accurate I am at calling out the sign that someone belongs too. Especially if I've gotten to know them well enough before I try to take a guess.

^^^ Yes, and also it has made me a lot better at understanding people and how they work and think.

Posted by xtina
^^^ Yes, and also it has made me a lot better at understanding people and how they work and think.

Yeah overall thats probably the most useful aspect for me of Astrology and the main reason I got into it in the first place. Pretty sure thats the same for everyone else though too.

Posted by aurora
astrology deals with human nature which is far more complicated system than lets say systems which are described by quantum physics.
also i think nobody really tried to measure astrology. if i have to imagine what would be necessary for that, i see 3 experts in 3 fields, astrology of course, psychology and statistical physics. the probability to find those 3 people working together and believing (lol) in astrology is really small. and i'm talking about the part does it work at all?

in the mean time, i also choose to have an open mind. why would it be so ridiculous to believe that our position in universe against constellations and planets makes some kind of influence? after all, aren't we all made of stars 🙂

+100

I feel that there is a reason we have the physics and stuff mostly figured and have yet still to dent the surface of the human psyche... because it is so complex!

Posted by tiziani
I'm still hit and miss when it comes to guessing other people's signs. Astrology in the context of relationships is getting very tired for me at this point. Too much of a good thing, maybe? But I do love astrology for reading on mythology and seeing applying it to things to reach a different individual perspective.

Mythology?? How do you mean?

It's a romantic and intriguing concept to me, like mythology and it's relation to it (as tiziani mentioned).

i like it. lol