Biological Clocks

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Posted by Fortuna
My friend used pacific reproductive services (it mainly focuses on lesbians, or it's owned by lesbians, or both--I cannot recall).

She had been trying for a couple of years, in terms of looking for a partner. Didn't have any luck, but still needed to experience motherhood. She found a guy that was willing to be a donor and then she developed feelings, so she had to back out.

A year later she found the site (mentioned above) and did a lot of research. She had everyone she loved (friends and family) look through the profiles to help her find a good match and is then she selected the donor. At 33, she finally made the decision and became pregnant on her first try. She had the baby this year, she'll be 34 this month.

She has a baby girl and a large support system. The baby girl will have a chance to meet the father at the age of 18 and from there they will decide whether they want to keep in touch. (The child having an option to meet the donor is a contract with Pacific Reproductive Services.) My friend purposely picked a donor that had a limited sperm supply, meaning the child will not have many biological siblings.

She's definitely someone I admire and I think she would be the best mother I've ever known.
Thank you so much for this information, I really appreciate it.
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Okay so some history for those saying 35 years as the cut off point, this idea was perpetuated by bunk science. So this dude looked at (Church) census records of peasants between the years 1670 and 1830, upon looking at those records he noted a trend for birthrates to slow down when women got around the 35 age marker. He didn't however take into account other factors that impacted these women such as, poor nourishment, illnesses, and common accidents that laborers would contend with. That said the 35 age being a cut off point is currently being debunked by modern scientists and the results are showing that women can still give birth well into their 40's. The risk of birth defects do double when a woman is in her late 30's and gets pregnant, by doubling I mean it goes from .5% chance of birth defects to a 1% chance of birth defects which is obviously a small chance.

The chances for a perfectly healthy woman to get pregnant and carry full term is 86% after age 35. Around 40 this drops to 65% , yes it drops but if someone is healthy the odds are still in their favor of getting pregnant and carrying to term. (this is the success rate after 4 years of trying to conceive for those age groups.)

And no, I don't care what sites like babycenter or eggdonotions say, they're peddling products and playing on consumers fears to do so.

If you want to look more into fertility I suggest getting Jean Twenge's book, The Impatient Woman's Guide to Getting Pregnant as she did a lot of research of fertility and age.

Anyway, my sources.

https://academic.oup.com/humrep/article/19/7/1548/2356634/Can-assisted-reproduction-technology-compensate

http://journals.lww.com/greenjournal/Abstract/2004/01000/Increased_Infertility_With_Age_in_Men_and_Women.10.aspx
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I feel humans in general are getting smarter with time in a sense. We do live in a time where the population is at its highest, but in recent years fertility rate has dropped. I feel it's a sign that human genetics are smart enough to quit reproducing before we completely destroy the earth, or the fact children aren't really needed as much in the future. Back in the day people needed children to help hunt and tend the land. It was a matter between having a stable life, or struggling to survive. Nowadays we have advanced technology that makes living solo much easier, therefor the need to reproduce is less. Though it's still a natural function of anything living. Expenses are just too much here in the future. Before children helped you make a living, in today's time they just cost a fortune to raise.

Anyway enough rambling and back to the topic. I feel the best time to have a child in today's time is anywhere from 30 to 40. By age 30 most humans should have advanced enough work wise to live in a stable living environment that can comfortably raise a child.
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Posted by Catullus
Okay so some history for those saying 35 years as the cut off point, this idea was perpetuated by bunk science. So this dude looked at (Church) census records of peasants between the years 1670 and 1830, upon looking at those records he noted a trend for birthrates to slow down when women got around the 35 age marker. He didn't however take into account other factors that impacted these women such as, poor nourishment, illnesses, and common accidents that laborers would contend with. That said the 35 age being a cut off point is currently being debunked by modern scientists and the results are showing that women can still give birth well into their 40's. The risk of birth defects do double when a woman is in her late 30's and gets pregnant, by doubling I mean it goes from .5% chance of birth defects to a 1% chance of birth defects which is obviously a small chance.

The chances for a perfectly healthy woman to get pregnant and carry full term is 86% after age 35. Around 40 this drops to 65% , yes it drops but if someone is healthy the odds are still in their favor of getting pregnant and carrying to term. (this is the success rate after 4 years of trying to conceive for those age groups.)

And no, I don't care what sites like babycenter or eggdonotions say, they're peddling products and playing on consumers fears to do so.

If you want to look more into fertility I suggest getting Jean Twenge's book, The Impatient Woman's Guide to Getting Pregnant as she did a lot of research of fertility and age.

Anyway, my sources.

https://academic.oup.com/humrep/article/19/7/1548/2356634/Can-assisted-reproduction-technology-compensate

http://journals.lww.com/greenjournal/Abstract/2004/01000/Increased_Infertility_With_Age_in_Men_and_Women.10.aspx
Thank you very much! I'm definitely going to read the book.

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Posted by Catullus
Okay so some history for those saying 35 years as the cut off point, this idea was perpetuated by bunk science. So this dude looked at (Church) census records of peasants between the years 1670 and 1830, upon looking at those records he noted a trend for birthrates to slow down when women got around the 35 age marker. He didn't however take into account other factors that impacted these women such as, poor nourishment, illnesses, and common accidents that laborers would contend with. That said the 35 age being a cut off point is currently being debunked by modern scientists and the results are showing that women can still give birth well into their 40's. The risk of birth defects do double when a woman is in her late 30's and gets pregnant, by doubling I mean it goes from .5% chance of birth defects to a 1% chance of birth defects which is obviously a small chance.

The chances for a perfectly healthy woman to get pregnant and carry full term is 86% after age 35. Around 40 this drops to 65% , yes it drops but if someone is healthy the odds are still in their favor of getting pregnant and carrying to term. (this is the success rate after 4 years of trying to conceive for those age groups.)

And no, I don't care what sites like babycenter or eggdonotions say, they're peddling products and playing on consumers fears to do so.

If you want to look more into fertility I suggest getting Jean Twenge's book, The Impatient Woman's Guide to Getting Pregnant as she did a lot of research of fertility and age.

Anyway, my sources.

https://academic.oup.com/humrep/article/19/7/1548/2356634/Can-assisted-reproduction-technology-compensate

http://journals.lww.com/greenjournal/Abstract/2004/01000/Increased_Infertility_With_Age_in_Men_and_Women.10.aspx
Thank you very much! I'm definitely going to read the book.

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If you want to have a child the conventional way by getting pregnant you need to have a plan in place by 32 so that ideally you are knocked up by 35. Whether your getting the sperm from a lab or directly from the source...either way.

If you plan to pay for a surrogate then freeze your eggs by 35/37. And keep in mind that route is expensive...

Adoption is also a viable option and doesn't have a time limit.

My landlord has talked a lot about how she regrets not having children. She's in her late 40s and is currently going through the adoption process.
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And I know it's possible to have a child after 35. My mother had my youngest brother when she was 41/42. She was in a horrible accident in her 20s that crushed her pelvis and had the doctors telling her she would never have kids. 5 kids later... the human body is amazing.

That being said, pregnancy and your bodies ability to bounce back is just easier when your younger.
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Posted by AllegoryAddict
When a single person wants and is ready to have and raise a child, but has yet to meet their ideal partner, what would be the age for them to hang up their proverbial dancing shoes and just consider seeking a donor or surrogate?


30s, and maybe 40s,

and if there is no ideal man,just go to the sperm bank. and i dont know if they have photos and backgrounds of these men.

for example:

man 1: CEO of a company, athletic in his spare time, married and never cheated, has several children... graduated from a university with top scores.

man 2: auto mechanic, and has never touched a drink in his life, and has a fairly good IQ. been married 2x.

man 3: Chef, cooks vegetarian food, and travels alot, never been married, already in his late 40s. never went to college, but was a very isolated individual.



there's so many to choose!!

i would guess that the woman in question would have to have alot of money, because raising a child is not cheap and also, to get into those sperm donor programs.
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Posted by AllegoryAddict
When a single person wants and is ready to have and raise a child, but has yet to meet their ideal partner, what would be the age for them to hang up their proverbial dancing shoes and just consider seeking a donor or surrogate?



The Capricorn woman's dilemma.
What's your issue with capricorn women?

Too career-focused.
Would you rather Capricorn women live off welfare?
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if she has too many children or her full time job can't help support enough for her and her children she could STILL get a government welfare subsidiary.

we have a couple of married/partnered couples who are on government supplement /subsidiary plans, and they worked full time jobs. or one of them did, and had to take care of the children at home.

if your full time work isn't enough money, government can still help with the food and diapers for the children, at about a couple thousand a month extra and that's with putting your children in babysitting nursing schools while you're at work.
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When a single person wants and is ready to have and raise a child, but has yet to meet their ideal partner, what would be the age for them to hang up their proverbial dancing shoes and just consider seeking a donor or surrogate?



The Capricorn woman's dilemma.
What's your issue with capricorn women?
It's with all women. He comes here talking shit about other signs. Just another woman hater, that's all
He also tongues DJ's ass
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I saw that too. Neck-deep into that pedo salad.

All respect was lost after that.