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Wouldn't bother to waste my time.

However, I understand that an associate of Lin Wood is putting together a defense team for Rittenhouse.

In case you forgot, Lin Wood was the attorney for Richard Jewell in the Atlanta Olympics bombing.

He also is the attorney for Nicholas Sandman, the kid in the Covington defamation case, in which CNN and the Washington Post have settled for undisclosed amounts.

I know that probably doesn't mean much to you, but there it is.

By all means, please carry on.
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Wouldn't bother to waste my time.

However, I understand that an associate of Lin Wood is putting together a defense team for Rittenhouse.

In case you forgot, Lin Wood was the attorney for Richard Jewell in the Atlanta Olympics bombing.

He also is the attorney for Nicholas Sandman, the kid in the Covington defamation case, in which CNN and the Washington Post have settled for undisclosed amounts.

I know that probably doesn't mean much to you, but there it is.

By all means, please carry on.


So you agree with the OP?
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Wouldn't bother to waste my time.

However, I understand that an associate of Lin Wood is putting together a defense team for Rittenhouse.

In case you forgot, Lin Wood was the attorney for Richard Jewell in the Atlanta Olympics bombing.

He also is the attorney for Nicholas Sandman, the kid in the Covington defamation case, in which CNN and the Washington Post have settled for undisclosed amounts.

I know that probably doesn't mean much to you, but there it is.

By all means, please carry on.

So you agree with the OP?
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Go play that game with somebody else.

In case you didn't understand, things would indicate that politicians, prosecutors, public figures, and media seeking to twist this issue best tread lightly.
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Wouldn't bother to waste my time.

However, I understand that an associate of Lin Wood is putting together a defense team for Rittenhouse.

In case you forgot, Lin Wood was the attorney for Richard Jewell in the Atlanta Olympics bombing.

He also is the attorney for Nicholas Sandman, the kid in the Covington defamation case, in which CNN and the Washington Post have settled for undisclosed amounts.

I know that probably doesn't mean much to you, but there it is.

By all means, please carry on.

So you agree with the OP?

Go play that game with somebody else.

In case you didn't understand, things would indicate that politicians, prosecutors, public figures, and media seeking to twist this issue best tread lightly.
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Are you for Law and Order.. or vigilante justice?
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I bet they paid him to make sure this fire keeps burning inside everyone. Next week another black man will kill another little white kid to keep the mass divide rolling. Then when people chill even slightly throw in some more cops abusing and murdering people. More word of cops strategically putting bricks on the streets to have a reason to beat people. Cops helping burn some stuff to again, have a reason to beat people. Its a statement to make the working class like me feel intimidated to question the control and, just go back to work. Which I do. Once reality sets in with everyone the media will just piece some more shit together by taking things out of context, and taking false information then blend it all into something that looks real. A real shit smoothie. We all gladly drink it too.
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If people are allowed to burn down their town and beat/ murder store owners in the streets, and also obstruct traffic and pull people out of their car and beat/ murder them in the street because it supports their "movement" then this kid is allowed to do the same because it supports his "movement "

This next part is even better. Im kind of excited. Assuming there was no murder involved, you have to admit that if its wrong to murder a criminal in the street, then its wrong to murder a known nazi or racist in the street just as well. I can feel people squirming at the core.

Try to even fight or argue with that, because if anyone does you will be 100% proven a hypocrite.

It's either law and order, or a complete free for all. Pick one.
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If people are allowed to burn down their town and beat/ murder store owners in the streets, and also obstruct traffic and pull people out of their car and beat/ murder them in the street because it supports their "movement" then this kid is allowed to do the same because it supports his "movement "

This next part is even better. Im kind of excited. Assuming there was no murder involved, you have to admit that if its wrong to murder a criminal in the street, then its wrong to murder a known nazi or racist in the street just as well. I can feel people squirming at the core.

Try to even fight or argue with that, because if anyone does you will be 100% proven a hypocrite.

It's either law and order, or a complete free for all. Pick one.


Since when has burning down towns, beating/murdering store owners in the streets, obstructing traffic, pulling people out of their car and beating/murdering them in the street.. ever been legal?
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If people are allowed to burn down their town and beat/ murder store owners in the streets, and also obstruct traffic and pull people out of their car and beat/ murder them in the street because it supports their "movement" then this kid is allowed to do the same because it supports his "movement "

This next part is even better. Im kind of excited. Assuming there was no murder involved, you have to admit that if its wrong to murder a criminal in the street, then its wrong to murder a known nazi or racist in the street just as well. I can feel people squirming at the core.

Try to even fight or argue with that, because if anyone does you will be 100% proven a hypocrite.

It's either law and order, or a complete free for all. Pick one.

Since when has burning down towns, beating/murdering store owners in the streets, obstructing traffic, pulling people out of their car and beating/murdering them in the street.. ever been legal?
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Since the day cops started beating and shooting people into a bloody pulp for being in the streets apparently.
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If people are allowed to burn down their town and beat/ murder store owners in the streets, and also obstruct traffic and pull people out of their car and beat/ murder them in the street because it supports their "movement" then this kid is allowed to do the same because it supports his "movement "

This next part is even better. Im kind of excited. Assuming there was no murder involved, you have to admit that if its wrong to murder a criminal in the street, then its wrong to murder a known nazi or racist in the street just as well. I can feel people squirming at the core.

Try to even fight or argue with that, because if anyone does you will be 100% proven a hypocrite.

It's either law and order, or a complete free for all. Pick one.

Since when has burning down towns, beating/murdering store owners in the streets, obstructing traffic, pulling people out of their car and beating/murdering them in the street.. ever been legal?

Since the day cops started beating and shooting people into a bloody pulp for being in the streets apparently.
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The answer you're looking for is.. "Never."

Try making a different point.
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If people are allowed to burn down their town and beat/ murder store owners in the streets, and also obstruct traffic and pull people out of their car and beat/ murder them in the street because it supports their "movement" then this kid is allowed to do the same because it supports his "movement "

This next part is even better. Im kind of excited. Assuming there was no murder involved, you have to admit that if its wrong to murder a criminal in the street, then its wrong to murder a known nazi or racist in the street just as well. I can feel people squirming at the core.

Try to even fight or argue with that, because if anyone does you will be 100% proven a hypocrite.

It's either law and order, or a complete free for all. Pick one.

Since when has burning down towns, beating/murdering store owners in the streets, obstructing traffic, pulling people out of their car and beating/murdering them in the street.. ever been legal?

Since the day cops started beating and shooting people into a bloody pulp for being in the streets apparently.

The answer you're looking for is.. "Never."

Try making a different point.
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I wouldn't say never. If people feel so wronged they want burn their town to the ground and murder as a point, and fight to the death for the success towards their own idea on the way things should be, truth be told every human has always had that right. The cops have been doing this since they became in control of the population. The governments little bodyguards.

My point on the deepest level possible is people are more then happy to stand on the grave of people who were murdered to support their personal ideas. White, black, child, or adult. One gets murdered, one side tries to justify it, the other makes it know how fucked it is. We are all equally fucked.
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If people are allowed to burn down their town and beat/ murder store owners in the streets, and also obstruct traffic and pull people out of their car and beat/ murder them in the street because it supports their "movement" then this kid is allowed to do the same because it supports his "movement "

This next part is even better. Im kind of excited. Assuming there was no murder involved, you have to admit that if its wrong to murder a criminal in the street, then its wrong to murder a known nazi or racist in the street just as well. I can feel people squirming at the core.

Try to even fight or argue with that, because if anyone does you will be 100% proven a hypocrite.

It's either law and order, or a complete free for all. Pick one.

What you're asserting might have merit if:

1) the constitution didn't grant freedom of assembly

2) the people who were murdered had committed crimes

Spraying bullets indiscriminately into a crowd of people exercising an enumerated constitutional right is murder.
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Talking about the constitution to Americans in 2020 is like trying to convince everyone to wear a mask. Might as well throw that shitty document out the window at this point. This is what I try to explain to people in my area who support Trump (which I know you don't) These people don't understand that an authoritarian government doesn't want people to have the right to assemble, or speak opinions. Guns are honestly next. They want full order and obedience.
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If people are allowed to burn down their town and beat/ murder store owners in the streets, and also obstruct traffic and pull people out of their car and beat/ murder them in the street because it supports their "movement" then this kid is allowed to do the same because it supports his "movement "

This next part is even better. Im kind of excited. Assuming there was no murder involved, you have to admit that if its wrong to murder a criminal in the street, then its wrong to murder a known nazi or racist in the street just as well. I can feel people squirming at the core.

Try to even fight or argue with that, because if anyone does you will be 100% proven a hypocrite.

It's either law and order, or a complete free for all. Pick one.

What you're asserting might have merit if:

1) the constitution didn't grant freedom of assembly

2) the people who were murdered had committed crimes

Spraying bullets indiscriminately into a crowd of people exercising an enumerated constitutional right is murder.

Talking about the constitution to Americans in 2020 is like trying to convince everyone to wear a mask. Might as well throw that shitty document out the window at this point. This is what I try to explain to people in my area who support Trump (which I know you don't) These people don't understand that an authoritarian government doesn't want people to have the right to assemble, or speak opinions. Guns are honestly next. They want full order and obedience.
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Are you willing to stand up for you Constitutional rights? Just curious.
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If people are allowed to burn down their town and beat/ murder store owners in the streets, and also obstruct traffic and pull people out of their car and beat/ murder them in the street because it supports their "movement" then this kid is allowed to do the same because it supports his "movement "

This next part is even better. Im kind of excited. Assuming there was no murder involved, you have to admit that if its wrong to murder a criminal in the street, then its wrong to murder a known nazi or racist in the street just as well. I can feel people squirming at the core.

Try to even fight or argue with that, because if anyone does you will be 100% proven a hypocrite.

It's either law and order, or a complete free for all. Pick one.

What you're asserting might have merit if:

1) the constitution didn't grant freedom of assembly

2) the people who were murdered had committed crimes

Spraying bullets indiscriminately into a crowd of people exercising an enumerated constitutional right is murder.

Talking about the constitution to Americans in 2020 is like trying to convince everyone to wear a mask. Might as well throw that shitty document out the window at this point. This is what I try to explain to people in my area who support Trump (which I know you don't) These people don't understand that an authoritarian government doesn't want people to have the right to assemble, or speak opinions. Guns are honestly next. They want full order and obedience.

An armed mob of white guys busted a door down at the ID state capitol this week. If a black guy showed up and started shooting at them, would he be justified?

They ignored police orders and damaged property...
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Sure it would. I mean if you truly live by the gun is it really surprising when you die by it?
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If people are allowed to burn down their town and beat/ murder store owners in the streets, and also obstruct traffic and pull people out of their car and beat/ murder them in the street because it supports their "movement" then this kid is allowed to do the same because it supports his "movement "

This next part is even better. Im kind of excited. Assuming there was no murder involved, you have to admit that if its wrong to murder a criminal in the street, then its wrong to murder a known nazi or racist in the street just as well. I can feel people squirming at the core.

Try to even fight or argue with that, because if anyone does you will be 100% proven a hypocrite.

It's either law and order, or a complete free for all. Pick one.

What you're asserting might have merit if:

1) the constitution didn't grant freedom of assembly

2) the people who were murdered had committed crimes

Spraying bullets indiscriminately into a crowd of people exercising an enumerated constitutional right is murder.

Talking about the constitution to Americans in 2020 is like trying to convince everyone to wear a mask. Might as well throw that shitty document out the window at this point. This is what I try to explain to people in my area who support Trump (which I know you don't) These people don't understand that an authoritarian government doesn't want people to have the right to assemble, or speak opinions. Guns are honestly next. They want full order and obedience.

Are you willing to stand up for you Constitutional rights? Just curious.
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Nope. They've got me sold to China at this point. I've even been eating every meal with chopsticks. Anyway I really enjoy my trade job, and make good money. Once they take that right away from me though then I will be willing to fight for rights, because I'll have nothing left to do or feel good about. So I understand the deep rooted needs for people to protests. Some go for equal rights, some go to stop an abusive police system that masks our governments motives, and many go because covid made them jobless. That or other protesters burned down their business and made them jobless.
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If people are allowed to burn down their town and beat/ murder store owners in the streets, and also obstruct traffic and pull people out of their car and beat/ murder them in the street because it supports their "movement" then this kid is allowed to do the same because it supports his "movement "

This next part is even better. Im kind of excited. Assuming there was no murder involved, you have to admit that if its wrong to murder a criminal in the street, then its wrong to murder a known nazi or racist in the street just as well. I can feel people squirming at the core.

Try to even fight or argue with that, because if anyone does you will be 100% proven a hypocrite.

It's either law and order, or a complete free for all. Pick one.

You remind me of my drunk biology teacher from high school.
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Don't give me so much credit. I dropped out of school, and am no where near the level of drunk high school biology teacher.
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If people are allowed to burn down their town and beat/ murder store owners in the streets, and also obstruct traffic and pull people out of their car and beat/ murder them in the street because it supports their "movement" then this kid is allowed to do the same because it supports his "movement "

This next part is even better. Im kind of excited. Assuming there was no murder involved, you have to admit that if its wrong to murder a criminal in the street, then its wrong to murder a known nazi or racist in the street just as well. I can feel people squirming at the core.

Try to even fight or argue with that, because if anyone does you will be 100% proven a hypocrite.

It's either law and order, or a complete free for all. Pick one.

You remind me of my drunk biology teacher from high school.
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He said “this next part is even better, I’m kind of excited” 😂
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If people are allowed to burn down their town and beat/ murder store owners in the streets, and also obstruct traffic and pull people out of their car and beat/ murder them in the street because it supports their "movement" then this kid is allowed to do the same because it supports his "movement "

This next part is even better. Im kind of excited. Assuming there was no murder involved, you have to admit that if its wrong to murder a criminal in the street, then its wrong to murder a known nazi or racist in the street just as well. I can feel people squirming at the core.

Try to even fight or argue with that, because if anyone does you will be 100% proven a hypocrite.

It's either law and order, or a complete free for all. Pick one.

You remind me of my drunk biology teacher from high school.

He said “this next part is even better, I’m kind of excited” 😂
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Sometimes I get excited when I'm about to say something thats going to piss people off. Its a pretty negative trait, but hard to resist. One second you think I can't go any lower meanwhile I'm thinking "But wait, there's more!"

My only point in any of that is from my perspective almost all people from every side of the spectrum worship some pretty shitty people in one way or another.

Did you know many people on the right consider this kid a true hero? There will be much more of this in the near future I bet.

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If people are allowed to burn down their town and beat/ murder store owners in the streets, and also obstruct traffic and pull people out of their car and beat/ murder them in the street because it supports their "movement" then this kid is allowed to do the same because it supports his "movement "

This next part is even better. Im kind of excited. Assuming there was no murder involved, you have to admit that if its wrong to murder a criminal in the street, then its wrong to murder a known nazi or racist in the street just as well. I can feel people squirming at the core.

Try to even fight or argue with that, because if anyone does you will be 100% proven a hypocrite.

It's either law and order, or a complete free for all. Pick one.

You remind me of my drunk biology teacher from high school.

He said “this next part is even better, I’m kind of excited” 😂

Sometimes I get excited when I'm about to say something thats going to piss people off. Its a pretty negative trait, but hard to resist. One second you think I can't go any lower meanwhile I'm thinking "But wait, there's more!"

My only point in any of that is from my perspective almost all people from every side of the spectrum worship some pretty shitty people in one way or another.

Did you know many people on the right consider this kid a true hero? There will be much more of this in the near future I bet.
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I dont think there are any heroes here.

But we don't have the full story of how things unfolded yet.

But, we know the thoughts of least one:

"..Now one of the men he shot has allegedly told one of his comrades:

“So the kid shot Gaige as he drew his weapon and Gaige retreated with his gun in hand. I just talked to Gaige Grosskreutz, too; his only regret was not killing the kid and hesitating to pull the gun before emptying the entire mag into him. Coward.”"

Gaige Grosskreutz is the guy who got part of his bicep blown off. He is a "professional protester", and its in question if he legally was allowed to have a firearm (he has a charge on record for felonious burglary).
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If people are allowed to burn down their town and beat/ murder store owners in the streets, and also obstruct traffic and pull people out of their car and beat/ murder them in the street because it supports their "movement" then this kid is allowed to do the same because it supports his "movement "

This next part is even better. Im kind of excited. Assuming there was no murder involved, you have to admit that if its wrong to murder a criminal in the street, then its wrong to murder a known nazi or racist in the street just as well. I can feel people squirming at the core.

Try to even fight or argue with that, because if anyone does you will be 100% proven a hypocrite.

It's either law and order, or a complete free for all. Pick one.

What you're asserting might have merit if:

1) the constitution didn't grant freedom of assembly

2) the people who were murdered had committed crimes

Spraying bullets indiscriminately into a crowd of people exercising an enumerated constitutional right is murder.

Talking about the constitution to Americans in 2020 is like trying to convince everyone to wear a mask. Might as well throw that shitty document out the window at this point. This is what I try to explain to people in my area who support Trump (which I know you don't) These people don't understand that an authoritarian government doesn't want people to have the right to assemble, or speak opinions. Guns are honestly next. They want full order and obedience.

Are you willing to stand up for you Constitutional rights? Just curious.

Nope. They've got me sold to China at this point. I've even been eating every meal with chopsticks. Anyway I really enjoy my trade job, and make good money. Once they take that right away from me though then I will be willing to fight for rights, because I'll have nothing left to do or feel good about. So I understand the deep rooted needs for people to protests. Some go for equal rights, some go to stop an abusive police system that masks our governments motives, and many go because covid made them jobless. That or other protesters burned down their business and made them jobless.
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So say they take your right to work away and make good money.. by either killing you or incarcerating you.

How do you fight for your rights?
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If people are allowed to burn down their town and beat/ murder store owners in the streets, and also obstruct traffic and pull people out of their car and beat/ murder them in the street because it supports their "movement" then this kid is allowed to do the same because it supports his "movement "

This next part is even better. Im kind of excited. Assuming there was no murder involved, you have to admit that if its wrong to murder a criminal in the street, then its wrong to murder a known nazi or racist in the street just as well. I can feel people squirming at the core.

Try to even fight or argue with that, because if anyone does you will be 100% proven a hypocrite.

It's either law and order, or a complete free for all. Pick one.

What you're asserting might have merit if:

1) the constitution didn't grant freedom of assembly

2) the people who were murdered had committed crimes

Spraying bullets indiscriminately into a crowd of people exercising an enumerated constitutional right is murder.

Talking about the constitution to Americans in 2020 is like trying to convince everyone to wear a mask. Might as well throw that shitty document out the window at this point. This is what I try to explain to people in my area who support Trump (which I know you don't) These people don't understand that an authoritarian government doesn't want people to have the right to assemble, or speak opinions. Guns are honestly next. They want full order and obedience.

Are you willing to stand up for you Constitutional rights? Just curious.

Nope. They've got me sold to China at this point. I've even been eating every meal with chopsticks. Anyway I really enjoy my trade job, and make good money. Once they take that right away from me though then I will be willing to fight for rights, because I'll have nothing left to do or feel good about. So I understand the deep rooted needs for people to protests. Some go for equal rights, some go to stop an abusive police system that masks our governments motives, and many go because covid made them jobless. That or other protesters burned down their business and made them jobless.

So say they take your right to work away and make good money.. by either killing you or incarcerating you.

How do you fight for your rights?
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It depends how I was making the money. I feel most (not all) but most people who are killed for what seems like no reason had it coming in some way. Imo most governments don't kill off people who are useful and glad to work and essentially accept being a slave to money with no questions asked, assuming its not war related. Unless this is honestly a civil war, which its getting to that it seems. I feel we all have it coming at some point. Wonder what we all did that was so bad?