Congress hearing UAP/UFOs

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And so it starts . . .




The fact that there are places within the government that even the president doesn't have clearence to makes you kind of wonder, who's really in charge?

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The fact that there are places within the government that even the president doesn't have clearence to makes you kind of wonder, who's really in charge?


I hope you joking. Follow the money. You know who runs the world monetarily right at least surface-level-wise.. The 13 families.. How old are you because if you older than me and you don't know who run the world you need to not recreate anymore
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The fact that there are places within the government that even the president doesn't have clearence to makes you kind of wonder, who's really in charge?



I hope you joking. Follow the money. You know who runs the world monetarily right at least surface-level-wise.. The 13 families.. How old are you because if you older than me and you don't know who run the world you need to not recreate anymore
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I didn't ask who runs the world, tinfoil Susie.

First look at the context and what the thread is.
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Biologics were retrieved.

Given some of the testimony, it leads me to believe a lot of these projects are off the books and therefore free from oversight or scrutiny.

Also, since the Pentagon has failed several audits, this is not difficult to believe. All that tax money unaccounted for.

Yeap, Pentagon hasn't passed the audit last 5 years I remember someone saying.
Summary so far

Posted by Enfant-Terrible-II
The fact that there are places within the government that even the president doesn't have clearence to makes you kind of wonder, who's really in charge?




WRT the US....

Woodrow Wilson put it in motion. Eisenhower warned about it. Truman regretted creating one aspect of it and JFK was taken out by the same, imho.

When the military, law enforcement, intelligence branches basically tell the obstensively elected representatives of the people to piss up a rope when conducting oversight, you know there is a problem.

It's even worse when those same representatives turn around and continue to fund those telling them to get lost.

they've been doing this pseudo disclosure dance for ages, probably nothing will come out of it.

The alien material is in the hands of private interests which are above american government level and they won't give anything.

Plus in the decades they've been working on it they didn't really manage to pull any interesting tech out of it.
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The alien material is in the hands of private interests which are above american government level and they won't give anything.
Yeah that's also been conformed by insiders. At least the part about the private interests. Though we have 0 clue what they are in possession of and neither does the government, clearly.


Prior to this interview with Bob Lazar the UFO thing was a hit or miss with me, it never truly fascinated me bc there was too much background noise that drowned out anything with potential.

But what Bob described even back in the late 80's from a physicists POV is exactly the type of technology that we now see maneuvering our skies and what this hearing is about.

There are a lot of things about this guy and his story that check out and coincide with things that would later emerge and turn out to be true.

What struck me the most is that Bob isn't even interested in aliens, he's a tech freak / psysicist who was only interested in the technology regardless if it's extra terrestrial or of human origin.

Also he does not struck me as an attention whore, he has to my knowledge no UFO books out and attends no UFO seminars or anything. It's not his interest or his field. He even paid his own flight ticket after Joe invited him for the podcast, even though Joe was gonna pay for it.

In any way it's an interesting episode, way more interesting than the 2018 documentary so I recommend watching this episode instead. No bs, no speculation, all consistancy after all these years.
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The alien material is in the hands of private interests which are above american government level and they won't give anything.



Yeah that's also been conformed by insiders. At least the part about the private interests. Though we have 0 clue what they are in possession of and neither does the government, clearly.
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there's probably a lot of fantasy mixed with the reality, and it's impossible to know what they possess or if there's really bodies.

What's certain is that there are ultra-fast technological tangible metallic objects visiting us, but they clearly are not interested in making contact. The most credible reports are the military reports from the belgian UFO flap, and the cometa report. USA is just playing games


Coming to get you

They’ve just been observing for a long time

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I’ve been thinking about submitting my resume to Raytheon
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I’ve been thinking about submitting my resume to Raytheon


Raytheon vs Lockheed stock is crazy to me
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Blackrock and vanguard too.

Investment firms being propped up by the world's taxation systems to create corrupt regimes? Shuddup and take my assets!
I don't believe any of it, all these guys like Lazar, Fravor and so on would have been shut up years ago had any of it been real. They'd not be have been alive to have even gone on Rogan.

It's all a bunch of bullshit, fuck knows why they're doing it. Maybe they want to create a disconnect from reality or something, idk.
100% bs.

I guarantee it's nothing more then some bs to distract people. Tbh no one even cares or will remember this.

To sum up what the man said it's pretty much "We've discovered alien technology, it's not human made, and there is no way our current technology could defend against it. I can't tell the public any more or show any actual proof, but will have a skiff with congress going into great details about it.

What kind of nonsense is that? Why say anything to begin with? It's so they can throw trillions into space military and space warfare. Not vs aliens however, but vs Russia an China. The US military wants to get ahead of the space race when it comes to military, so this is nothing more then a distraction to throw trillions into the cause.

I know I'm right too.

Here is the whole hearing. Feel free to make your own opinion.

https://www.youtube.com/live/5NE9IhP5mZw?feature=share
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I don't believe any of it, all these guys like Lazar, Fravor and so on would have been shut up years ago had any of it been real. They'd not be have been alive to have even gone on Rogan.

It's all a bunch of bullshit, fuck knows why they're doing it. Maybe they want to create a disconnect from reality or something, idk.
I don't think you really understand how compartmentalized these high places are. You think they are an oiled up smooth machinery but they are barely kept together bc no one has any insight in what the other guy is doing.

You know that moment in a horror movie when the protagonist keeps seeing a ghost and they confide in their friend who then comes to the conclusion "Oh you probably just got something in your eye"

You're being that douchy person right now.



Keep in mind, I'm not even talking about aliens (yet), but about the deep state, about technology, and in the loosest sense, physics. There's too much here - a lot of which you have clearly not yet even familiarized yourself with - to be dismissed as either this or that. Hence the fucking congress hearing.

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I don't believe any of it, all these guys like Lazar, Fravor and so on would have been shut up years ago had any of it been real. They'd not be have been alive to have even gone on Rogan.

It's all a bunch of bullshit, fuck knows why they're doing it. Maybe they want to create a disconnect from reality or something, idk.



I don't think you really understand how compartmentalized these high places are. You think they are an oiled up smooth machinery but they are barely kept together bc no one has any insight in what the other guy is doing.


You know that moment in a horror movie when the protagonist keeps seeing a ghost and they confide in their friend who then comes to the conclusion "Oh you probably just got something in your eye"


You're being that douchy person right now.



Keep in mind, I'm not even talking about aliens (yet), but about the deep state, about technology, and in the loosest sense, physics. There's too much here - a lot of which you have clearly not yet even familiarized yourself with - to be dismissed as either this or that. Hence the fucking congress hearing.

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A bit sensitive? I don't agree that makes me "that douchy person right now.". Look, you want to talk about physics? Here you go, here's some reasonable explanations on physics. Technology? What technology?

Nah I have heard a bunch of these podcasts, I couldn't get into any of them. I remember a dude going on about being shown inside some shit with out of this world technology, but he somehow hasn't been picked up by some defense company or whatever, no one wants to pick his brains? I doubt that.



How does a congress hearing change anything. Here's a few posible outcomes 1. It's all real and they tell the public...like fuck they are, even if its real nothing is being said because it's security/intelligence related and they have tech to keep hidden.

2. It's not real and they say its all not real, inwhich case, everyone who thinks it's real now thinks it's real even harder because the government is obviously trying to hide it. For reasons related to number 1, fair enough.

3. It is real and they say its not real. Here we go again.

4. It's not real and they say it is real.

Do you get the point I'm making? The congress hearing is nothing but a show.
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A bit sensitive? I don't agree that makes me "that douchy person right now.". Look, you want to talk about physics? Here you go, here's some reasonable explanations on physics. Technology? What technology?


Nah I have heard a bunch of these podcasts, I couldn't get into any of them. I remember a dude going on about being shown inside some shit with out of this world technology, but he somehow hasn't been picked up by some defense company or whatever, no one wants to pick his brains? I doubt that.





How does a congress hearing change anything. Here's a few posible outcomes 1. It's all real and they tell the public...like fuck they are, even if its real nothing is being said because it's security/intelligence related and they have tech to keep hidden.


2. It's not real and they say its all not real, inwhich case, everyone who thinks it's real now thinks it's real even harder because the government is obviously trying to hide it. For reasons related to number 1, fair enough.


3. It is real and they say its not real. Here we go again.


4. It's not real and they say it is real.


Do you get the point I'm making? The congress hearing is nothing but a show.
Yeah I'm sensitive to stupidity and sloppyness.

The dude "being shown inside" of a supposed aircraft with out of this world technology is none less than Bob Lazar, I posted the entire podcast in here.

And your assaption that it "hasn't been picked up by any defense company" has two flaws,

1) how do you know it hasn't? I mean who's working on it if not the deep state equivalence of a government defence company, the very ones that supposedly retrieved it?

2) they don't know how it works so how can they use it? Bob was in his own words "hired" along with other ppl from various fields to REVERSE ENGINEER it. We still don't actually know how it works so how can it be "picked up" by anyone?


You ASSUME a lot. You assume how things SHOULD HAVE progressed if these claims were true but you are forgetting this is not a movie - in the real world things are not deterministic like a movie script. They don't play out in any particular fashion.

Also, those who have stepped forward, in particuraly Fraver, have impeccable carreers in the military, why would they taint their own names and track record over some stupid UFO shit? I'm sure there are reasons, maybe they are hired extras in some great deep state scheme, I'm not above it...but you have to look at everything at play here, while you are too locked in on one thing that can be easily dismissed but forget or ignore the two others that strongly support it.

Like how are you able to disassociate that these things WERE picked up by MILION $ $ MILITARY EQUIPMENT operating in impossible ways, that literally defy the laws of physics as we know them?! This is essentially what the hearing is about, and not little green men.

It is not a glitch in the equipment if the very same thing is picked up by other radars and whatnot simultaneousely... going from 50,000 (was it?) feet to sea level within a second, etc. etc.. Those kinds of things you cannot just explain away or dismiss.

I love hearing simps in comment sections complaining how the images are too grainy so it clearly must be fake, not comprehending that it's not home video they are watching but multimilion $ top-notch military equipment that measures EVERYTHING and holds more information than any standalone photograph, video or negative film does! Ppl are dumb that way.

I bet if an UFO landed on the presidents head on the front lawn of the White House and it was caught in crystal sharp HD you'd still be crying "nah bruh it's fake". Some people are just wired like that and there's no getting them to put things in perspective..



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100% bs.

I guarantee it's nothing more then some bs to distract people.
Yeah like the faked moon landing, amiright?

I'm not above what you are saying, could be it, what I'm against is you or anyone being so certain of it despite credible enough contrary information. All one needs to do with ppl like you is use reverse psychology to control you, and it's working, by your own admission, if what u saying is true lol

Every time something happens like covid, moonlanding, UFO's .... it's bc "they are trying to distract us". 🙄 You are giving "them" too much credit . Distract from what? Ppl cannot get on the same page quite naturally, no distraction needed.

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A bit sensitive? I don't agree that makes me "that douchy person right now.". Look, you want to talk about physics? Here you go, here's some reasonable explanations on physics. Technology? What technology?


Nah I have heard a bunch of these podcasts, I couldn't get into any of them. I remember a dude going on about being shown inside some shit with out of this world technology, but he somehow hasn't been picked up by some defense company or whatever, no one wants to pick his brains? I doubt that.





How does a congress hearing change anything. Here's a few posible outcomes 1. It's all real and they tell the public...like fuck they are, even if its real nothing is being said because it's security/intelligence related and they have tech to keep hidden.


2. It's not real and they say its all not real, inwhich case, everyone who thinks it's real now thinks it's real even harder because the government is obviously trying to hide it. For reasons related to number 1, fair enough.


3. It is real and they say its not real. Here we go again.


4. It's not real and they say it is real.


Do you get the point I'm making? The congress hearing is nothing but a show.



Yeah I'm sensitive to stupidity and sloppyness.


The dude "being shown inside" of a supposed aircraft with out of this world technology is none less than Bob Lazar, I posted the entire podcast in here.


And your assaption that it "hasn't been picked up by any defense company" has two flaws,


1) how do you know it hasn't? I mean who's working on it if not the deep state equivalence of a government defence company, the very ones that supposedly retrieved it?


2) they don't know how it works so how can they use it? Bob was in his own words "hired" along with other ppl from various fields to REVERSE ENGINEER it. We still don't actually know how it works so how can it be "picked up" by anyone?


You ASSUME a lot. You assume how things SHOULD HAVE progressed if these claims were true but you are forgetting this is not a movie - in the real world things are not deterministic like a movie script. They don't play out in any particular fashion.


Also, those who have stepped forward, in particuraly Fraver, have impeccable carreers in the military, why would they taint their own names and track record over some stupid UFO shit? I'm sure there are reasons, maybe they are hired extras in some great deep state scheme, I'm not above it...but you have to look at everything at play here, while you are too locked in on one thing that can be easily dismissed but forget or ignore the two others that strongly support it.


Like how are you able to disassociate that these things WERE picked up by MILION $ $ MILITARY EQUIPMENT operating in impossible ways, that literally defy the laws of physics as we know them?! This is essentially what the hearing is about, and not little green men.


It is not a glitch in the equipment if the very same thing is picked up by other radars and whatnot simultaneousely... going from 50,000 (was it?) feet to sea level within a second, etc. etc.. Those kinds of things you cannot just explain away or dismiss.


I love hearing simps in comment sections complaining how the images are too grainy so it clearly must be fake, not comprehending that it's not home video they are watching but multimilion $ top-notch military equipment that measures EVERYTHING and holds more information than any standalone photograph, video or negative film does! Ppl are dumb that way.


I bet if an UFO landed on the presidents head on the front lawn of the White House and it was caught in crystal sharp HD you'd still be crying "nah bruh it's fake". Some people are just wired like that and there's no getting them to put things in perspective..


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I don't believe it lol Pretty simple, you don't need to try convince me otherwise. as far as the video I posted goes, yeah that's pretty sound to me. I already thought that perspective thing was happening the first time I saw it, so nothing changed. The distance number on one video equipment tells you exactly what's happening, it's out of the Jets radar range, an f18 super hornet can only scan 80nm. That's not very far at all. I haven't seen a video of the 'tictac' going from that altitude to sea level in that time, so far that's only word of mouth which isn't good enough for me.

What are your thoughts on mainstream archeology?
The main and obvious thing that tells me he's not working with anyone else and has not worked with anyone else is that he is on Joe Rogan saying all this shit. If he had any thing involved with other defense company's he would not be talking about it, he would be under contract to keep his mouth shut. That seems obvious, idk man it seems like you're the sloppy one and have not thought about this properly.

What amount of effort have you looked into the argument that they're fake, any at all? Did you even watch the video I linked, you did not mention it at all so I'm sure you didn't. I've watched the podcasts about it, I enjoyed it actually but I didn't really believe it and it did take me much convincing to think it wasn't true. I don't care if you have looked into it or not, but don't call me stupid and sloppy when I have actually put the effort in to see both sides of the argument at least as far as any evidence you've presented me.
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I don't believe any of it, all these guys like Lazar, Fravor and so on would have been shut up years ago had any of it been real. They'd not be have been alive to have even gone on Rogan.
It's all a bunch of bullshit, fuck knows why they're doing it. Maybe they want to create a disconnect from reality or something, idk.


I don't think you really understand how compartmentalized these high places are. You think they are an oiled up smooth machinery but they are barely kept together bc no one has any insight in what the other guy is doing.

You know that moment in a horror movie when the protagonist keeps seeing a ghost and they confide in their friend who then comes to the conclusion "Oh you probably just got something in your eye"

You're being that douchy person right now.

Keep in mind, I'm not even talking about aliens (yet), but about the deep state, about technology, and in the loosest sense, physics. There's too much here - a lot of which you have clearly not yet even familiarized yourself with - to be dismissed as either this or that. Hence the fucking congress hearing.
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A bit sensitive? I don't agree that makes me "that douchy person right now.". Look, you want to talk about physics? Here you go, here's some reasonable explanations on physics. Technology? What technology?

Nah I have heard a bunch of these podcasts, I couldn't get into any of them. I remember a dude going on about being shown inside some shit with out of this world technology, but he somehow hasn't been picked up by some defense company or whatever, no one wants to pick his brains? I doubt that.

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How does a congress hearing change anything. Here's a few posible outcomes 1. It's all real and they tell the public...like fuck they are, even if its real nothing is being said because it's security/intelligence related and they have tech to keep hidden.

2. It's not real and they say its all not real, inwhich case, everyone who thinks it's real now thinks it's real even harder because the government is obviously trying to hide it. For reasons related to number 1, fair enough.

3. It is real and they say its not real. Here we go again.

4. It's not real and they say it is real.

Do you get the point I'm making? The congress hearing is nothing but a show.



Not one thing you listed is convincing that the Congress hearing is bs

I don’t know if ppl are that afraid of aliens so they like to delude themselves into believing they don’t exist, or people have become so skeptical of everything it doesn’t matter if there is a legit alien invasion happening right before our eyes skeptics will still think it’s a hoax

I agree that obviously they aren’t coming out about this stuff because they want to be honest and transparent with us. There probably is more to it than that, who knows maybe they know something will happen soon to where they can’t hide it from the public anymore so they slowly are trying to break us in? It seems ironic this is happening while AI is taking over.

And what better time for the government to release this information than now when everyone seems to be becoming so numb to everything that nobody even seems phased by it all. All this stuff in the media no one is even phased by things anymore

Everyone keeps saying this is a distraction. But distraction from what? When could be bigger than this that they want to distract from?! Everyone is saying these things are a distraction but no one is saying what they are distracting from
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I don't know why they are doing a congress hearing, I don't think that's fake, they're doing it lol that's pretty obvious. What I do think is that the claims made are false or extremely flakey. They do congress hearings for all kinds, you just have to lobby it through. Hence the hearing, it doesn't mean it's real just because it's going through congress. I believe in Aliens too, are they onto them? I don't think so, the evidence isn't very good.

Perhaps I am wrong, well I'll write you all a poem about how I was wrong.

The guy is entirely unverifiable as the person he claims to be. He's not a physicist at all. Everything he says about his work in the field is a lie.
I think there’s a fundamental misunderstanding of how much technology these aerospace companies have at their disposal to gather information from anything flying in the sky. They know everything like size dimensions, weight, material, what’s on it with IR, speed, etc

I also don’t get why it would be so far fetched to believe that aliens with technology beyond ours do exist and travel across the universe and visit other planets for their own information/research. Maybe they are even humans time traveling back

Oh and even a low end job in defense/aerospace requires a minimum secret security clearance, most of them minimum top secret. So you wouldn’t hear about anything, at all, ever. They take that shit really seriously and it would have huge consequences to breach the contract
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I don't believe any of it, all these guys like Lazar, Fravor and so on would have been shut up years ago had any of it been real. They'd not be have been alive to have even gone on Rogan.
It's all a bunch of bullshit, fuck knows why they're doing it. Maybe they want to create a disconnect from reality or something, idk.


I don't think you really understand how compartmentalized these high places are. You think they are an oiled up smooth machinery but they are barely kept together bc no one has any insight in what the other guy is doing.
You know that moment in a horror movie when the protagonist keeps seeing a ghost and they confide in their friend who then comes to the conclusion "Oh you probably just got something in your eye"
You're being that douchy person right now.

Keep in mind, I'm not even talking about aliens (yet), but about the deep state, about technology, and in the loosest sense, physics. There's too much here - a lot of which you have clearly not yet even familiarized yourself with - to be dismissed as either this or that. Hence the fucking congress hearing.
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A bit sensitive? I don't agree that makes me "that douchy person right now.". Look, you want to talk about physics? Here you go, here's some reasonable explanations on physics. Technology? What technology?
Nah I have heard a bunch of these podcasts, I couldn't get into any of them. I remember a dude going on about being shown inside some shit with out of this world technology, but he somehow hasn't been picked up by some defense company or whatever, no one wants to pick his brains? I doubt that.

How does a congress hearing change anything. Here's a few posible outcomes 1. It's all real and they tell the public...like fuck they are, even if its real nothing is being said because it's security/intelligence related and they have tech to keep hidden.
2. It's not real and they say its all not real, inwhich case, everyone who thinks it's real now thinks it's real even harder because the government is obviously trying to hide it. For reasons related to number 1, fair enough.
3. It is real and they say its not real. Here we go again.
4. It's not real and they say it is real.
Do you get the point I'm making? The congress hearing is nothing but a show.


Not one thing you listed is convincing that the Congress hearing is bs

I don’t know if ppl are that afraid of aliens so they like to delude themselves into believing they don’t exist, or people have become so skeptical of everything it doesn’t matter if there is a legit alien invasion happening right before our eyes skeptics will still think it’s a hoax

I agree that obviously they aren’t coming out about this stuff because they want to be honest and transparent with us. There probably is more to it than that, who knows maybe they know something will happen soon to where they can’t hide it from the public anymore so they slowly are trying to break us in? It seems ironic this is happening while AI is taking over.

And what better time for the government to release this information than now when everyone seems to be becoming so numb to everything that nobody even seems phased by it all. All this stuff in the media no one is even phased by things anymore

Everyone keeps saying this is a distraction. But distraction from what? When could be bigger than this that they want to distract from?! Everyone is saying these things are a distraction but no one is saying what they are distracting from


I don't know why they are doing a congress hearing, I don't think that's fake, they're doing it lol that's pretty obvious. What I do think is that the claims made are false or extremely flakey. They do congress hearings for all kinds, you just have to lobby it through. Hence the hearing, it doesn't mean it's real just because it's going through congress. I believe in Aliens too, are they onto them? I don't think so, the evidence isn't very good.
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You know what I meant by “fake hearing” lol
I really don’t even think you actually watched the videos because you haven’t given any legit reasons it’s not real you just keep saying “the evidence isn’t good”
what evidence do you need? They barely had this hearing they aren’t going to roll out a spacecraft or bring out an alien to testify 😂 especially right away
I watched that podcast he posted with that physicist and it sounds like he’s being pretty honest to me. He even went through details about what he encountered. I don’t see any reason for him to lie

But it’s whatever… some ppl will believe and others will keep suspecting everything just because they need “hard evidence” that they still wouldn’t believe even if they showed us 😂 only time will tell who’s right 🤷🏻‍♀️
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I listened to all those podcasts years ago, at least 4 of them so idk like 12 hours worth of it. I was well into it.

"I really don’t even think you actually watched the videos because you haven’t given any legit reasons it’s not real you just keep saying “the evidence isn’t good"

So did you watch the one I just linked earlier, with the dude explaining the possible anomaly? I've seen as far as I know all of the tictac videos, unless I've missed some idk. I've listened to fravor talking. What more do I need to watch?

"that physicist" Is not a physicist he is an electrical technician.

Why am I not allowed to think that they are fake claims? Yes, I will continue to only believe hard evidence, I actually have hard evidence that Lazar is not a physicist. So that takes the "believe" out of it entirely.

Fravor on the other hand is a pilot, so I should believe him, but there is also 3 videos of supposed tic-tac's that are quite simple to explain. So what am I to do there? Just believe?

And so, tell me if the congress hearing concludes that it's all nonsense and lazar is a fraud and nothing happened out off the California coast with the Nimitz, will you stop believing or is it now a government cover up and you still believe?
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...and I DO believe.

They didn't say anything I already didn't think was happening.

Just like the mysterious introduction of the electronic transistor into our collective technological tool bag...that's highly suspect considering we were barely working with vacuum tubes and that's all we knew at the time.

That technological leap right there, practically overnight, that shit was unnatural. 🤔
I want to believe too man. That's the problem. Everyone wants to believe, so what better thing to do that to tell them yeah believe this. You go on Rogan with a 3 hour podcast with a bunch of exciting evidence and you tell his audience exactly what the want to hear, and they're already convinced that Shrooms are god, weed is the savor of the human race and there was an ancient civilization that disappeared without a shred of verifiable evidence. You've got a captive audience of people who want to believe and when they hear it they get a really good jab of dopamine in their brain which literally wires you to feel that it's the correct thing because a jab of dopamine is what you want more than reality itself. Fucking easy.
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A bit sensitive? I don't agree that makes me "that douchy person right now.". Look, you want to talk about physics? Here you go, here's some reasonable explanations on physics. Technology? What technology?



Nah I have heard a bunch of these podcasts, I couldn't get into any of them. I remember a dude going on about being shown inside some shit with out of this world technology, but he somehow hasn't been picked up by some defense company or whatever, no one wants to pick his brains? I doubt that.







How does a congress hearing change anything. Here's a few posible outcomes 1. It's all real and they tell the public...like fuck they are, even if its real nothing is being said because it's security/intelligence related and they have tech to keep hidden.



2. It's not real and they say its all not real, inwhich case, everyone who thinks it's real now thinks it's real even harder because the government is obviously trying to hide it. For reasons related to number 1, fair enough.



3. It is real and they say its not real. Here we go again.



4. It's not real and they say it is real.



Do you get the point I'm making? The congress hearing is nothing but a show.




Yeah I'm sensitive to stupidity and sloppyness.


The dude "being shown inside" of a supposed aircraft with out of this world technology is none less than Bob Lazar, I posted the entire podcast in here.


And your assaption that it "hasn't been picked up by any defense company" has two flaws,


1) how do you know it hasn't? I mean who's working on it if not the deep state equivalence of a government defence company, the very ones that supposedly retrieved it?


2) they don't know how it works so how can they use it? Bob was in his own words "hired" along with other ppl from various fields to REVERSE ENGINEER it. We still don't actually know how it works so how can it be "picked up" by anyone?



You ASSUME a lot. You assume how things SHOULD HAVE progressed if these claims were true but you are forgetting this is not a movie - in the real world things are not deterministic like a movie script. They don't play out in any particular fashion.


Also, those who have stepped forward, in particuraly Fraver, have impeccable carreers in the military, why would they taint their own names and track record over some stupid UFO shit? I'm sure there are reasons, maybe they are hired extras in some great deep state scheme, I'm not above it...but you have to look at everything at play here, while you are too locked in on one thing that can be easily dismissed but forget or ignore the two others that strongly support it.


Like how are you able to disassociate that these things WERE picked up by MILION $ $ MILITARY EQUIPMENT operating in impossible ways, that literally defy the laws of physics as we know them?! This is essentially what the hearing is about, and not little green men.


It is not a glitch in the equipment if the very same thing is picked up by other radars and whatnot simultaneousely... going from 50,000 (was it?) feet to sea level within a second, etc. etc.. Those kinds of things you cannot just explain away or dismiss.


I love hearing simps in comment sections complaining how the images are too grainy so it clearly must be fake, not comprehending that it's not home video they are watching but multimilion $ top-notch military equipment that measures EVERYTHING and holds more information than any standalone photograph, video or negative film does! Ppl are dumb that way.


I bet if an UFO landed on the presidents head on the front lawn of the White House and it was caught in crystal sharp HD you'd still be crying "nah bruh it's fake". Some people are just wired like that and there's no getting them to put things in perspective..





I don't believe it lol Pretty simple, you don't need to try convince me otherwise. as far as the video I posted goes, yeah that's pretty sound to me. I already thought that perspective thing was happening the first time I saw it, so nothing changed. The distance number on one video equipment tells you exactly what's happening, it's out of the Jets radar range, an f18 super hornet can only scan 80nm. That's not very far at all. I haven't seen a video of the 'tictac' going from that altitude to sea level in that time, so far that's only word of mouth which isn't good enough for me.


What are your thoughts on mainstream archeology?
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Sure, you can have your uninformed half-baked opinion but why bother arguing for it when you're ill informed?

I don't "believe" either, like I said. I could have believed 20 years ago if I wanted. I'm just going by what has been presented. The Tic Tac UFO is not "word of mouth" but actual data that's been presented to the congress. So yeah I don't understand why u are shooting off your mouth with such certainty about things you're not even read-up on.

I have no opinion about (mainstream) archeology. I don't know enough about it to be shooting off my mouth.
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A bit sensitive? I don't agree that makes me "that douchy person right now.". Look, you want to talk about physics? Here you go, here's some reasonable explanations on physics. Technology? What technology?



Nah I have heard a bunch of these podcasts, I couldn't get into any of them. I remember a dude going on about being shown inside some shit with out of this world technology, but he somehow hasn't been picked up by some defense company or whatever, no one wants to pick his brains? I doubt that.







How does a congress hearing change anything. Here's a few posible outcomes 1. It's all real and they tell the public...like fuck they are, even if its real nothing is being said because it's security/intelligence related and they have tech to keep hidden.



2. It's not real and they say its all not real, inwhich case, everyone who thinks it's real now thinks it's real even harder because the government is obviously trying to hide it. For reasons related to number 1, fair enough.



3. It is real and they say its not real. Here we go again.



4. It's not real and they say it is real.



Do you get the point I'm making? The congress hearing is nothing but a show.




Yeah I'm sensitive to stupidity and sloppyness.



The dude "being shown inside" of a supposed aircraft with out of this world technology is none less than Bob Lazar, I posted the entire podcast in here.



And your assaption that it "hasn't been picked up by any defense company" has two flaws,



1) how do you know it hasn't? I mean who's working on it if not the deep state equivalence of a government defence company, the very ones that supposedly retrieved it?



2) they don't know how it works so how can they use it? Bob was in his own words "hired" along with other ppl from various fields to REVERSE ENGINEER it. We still don't actually know how it works so how can it be "picked up" by anyone?



You ASSUME a lot. You assume how things SHOULD HAVE progressed if these claims were true but you are forgetting this is not a movie - in the real world things are not deterministic like a movie script. They don't play out in any particular fashion.



Also, those who have stepped forward, in particuraly Fraver, have impeccable carreers in the military, why would they taint their own names and track record over some stupid UFO shit? I'm sure there are reasons, maybe they are hired extras in some great deep state scheme, I'm not above it...but you have to look at everything at play here, while you are too locked in on one thing that can be easily dismissed but forget or ignore the two others that strongly support it.



Like how are you able to disassociate that these things WERE picked up by MILION $ $ MILITARY EQUIPMENT operating in impossible ways, that literally defy the laws of physics as we know them?! This is essentially what the hearing is about, and not little green men.



It is not a glitch in the equipment if the very same thing is picked up by other radars and whatnot simultaneousely... going from 50,000 (was it?) feet to sea level within a second, etc. etc.. Those kinds of things you cannot just explain away or dismiss.



I love hearing simps in comment sections complaining how the images are too grainy so it clearly must be fake, not comprehending that it's not home video they are watching but multimilion $ top-notch military equipment that measures EVERYTHING and holds more information than any standalone photograph, video or negative film does! Ppl are dumb that way.



I bet if an UFO landed on the presidents head on the front lawn of the White House and it was caught in crystal sharp HD you'd still be crying "nah bruh it's fake". Some people are just wired like that and there's no getting them to put things in perspective..






I don't believe it lol Pretty simple, you don't need to try convince me otherwise. as far as the video I posted goes, yeah that's pretty sound to me. I already thought that perspective thing was happening the first time I saw it, so nothing changed. The distance number on one video equipment tells you exactly what's happening, it's out of the Jets radar range, an f18 super hornet can only scan 80nm. That's not very far at all. I haven't seen a video of the 'tictac' going from that altitude to sea level in that time, so far that's only word of mouth which isn't good enough for me.


What are your thoughts on mainstream archeology?



Sure, you can have your uninformed half-baked opinion but why bother arguing for it when you're ill informed?


I don't "believe" either, like I said. I could have believed 20 years ago if I wanted. I'm just going by what has been presented. The Tic Tac UFO is not "word of mouth" but actual data that's been presented to the congress. So yeah I don't understand why u are shooting off your mouth with such certainty about things you're not even read-up on.


I have no opinion about (mainstream) archeology. I don't know enough about it to be shooting off my mouth.
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I've literally watched the same podcasts as you so yeah I have exactly the same "uninformed" opinion as you do. Which I agree is very uninformed. Alas, you made a thread, I expressed that I didn't believe what I have seen to be convincing enough, and you went and lost your shit about it. Yeah I have absolute certainty in it, of course I do I go about my day being sure of my ability to look a concept and make a judgement on it, be it right or wrong.

Whatever man, chances are this congress will make it all clear and I'll admit I was wrong...

Good, that's a good response re archeology. Never mind that.
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I've literally watched the same podcasts as you so yeah I have exactly the same "uninformed" opinion as you do. Which I agree is very uninformed. Alas, you made a thread, I expressed that I didn't believe what I have seen to be convincing enough, and you went and lost your shit about it. Yeah I have absolute certainty in it, of course I do I go about my day being sure of my ability to look a concept and make a judgement on it, be it right or wrong.


Whatever man, chances are this congress will make it all clear and I'll admit I was wrong...


Good, that's a good response re archeology. Never mind that.
Not talking about the podcast ffs. That's just something I posted as a bonus. You are clearly lying your ass off about how informed you are, just for the sake of the argument.

I think its so funny that aliens have been confirmed, but shit is so fucked up right now, that none really cares
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100% bs.

I guarantee it's nothing more then some bs to distract people.



Yeah like the faked moon landing, amiright?


I'm not above what you are saying, could be it, what I'm against is you or anyone being so certain of it despite credible enough contrary information. All one needs to do with ppl like you is use reverse psychology to control you, and it's working, by your own admission, if what u saying is true lol


Every time something happens like covid, moonlanding, UFO's .... it's bc "they are trying to distract us". 🙄 You are giving "them" too much credit . Distract from what? Ppl cannot get on the same page quite naturally, no distraction needed.

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I fully agree with that. I'll try to simmer down a bit. However, why would they even mention it to begin with?

I'll admit I'm fully bias, and paranoid. About 7 years ago I wrote a whole excerpt here on dxpnet on how I predicted the government would scientifically create a human animal hybrid in a lab just to fake it as proof of alien life. They would use this abomination to completely blind people from the idea of God, then use this earth made creation to force society into a one world order.

It still sounds crazy now I'm sure, but just you wait. The strongest world government is about to pull some messed up shit that will have 99.9% of humans fooled. Let us let this idea cook for another decade, then come back at me with results.
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I've literally watched the same podcasts as you so yeah I have exactly the same "uninformed" opinion as you do. Which I agree is very uninformed. Alas, you made a thread, I expressed that I didn't believe what I have seen to be convincing enough, and you went and lost your shit about it. Yeah I have absolute certainty in it, of course I do I go about my day being sure of my ability to look a concept and make a judgement on it, be it right or wrong.


Whatever man, chances are this congress will make it all clear and I'll admit I was wrong...


Good, that's a good response re archeology. Never mind that.



Not talking about the podcast ffs. That's just something I posted as a bonus. You are clearly lying your ass off about how informed you are, just for the sake of the argument.

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What are you talking about then, show some sources of shit that I can read. It wouldn't make a fucking difference if I read it because you're already ignoring every shred of what I do know and have provided, so you're not going to acknowledge anything more that I read either. Same dudes in the podcast testified. I've listened to a bit of that Grusch dude, but ahh can't really have an opinion on that if its a dude talk, he might be legit idk. I'll listen to more of that.

Yeah you clearly just want it to be right and don't want to acknowledge any points I've put forward, and you're clearly not going to watch a 5 minute video that can easily explain potential solutions for the tic tac videos, instead you're just going to say YOu Is UnInF0rmD.

So what are your thoughts on Bob Lazar not being a physicist, not being from MIT not having anything to do with what he claims to have been doing. ? got and answer? The way you talked about him sounds like you held him in high regards.
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The fact that there are places within the government that even the president doesn't have clearence to makes you kind of wonder, who's really in charge?



I hope you joking. Follow the money. You know who runs the world monetarily right at least surface-level-wise.. The 13 families.. How old are you because if you older than me and you don't know who run the world you need to not recreate anymore
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I didn't ask who runs the world, tinfoil Susie.

First look at the context and what the thread is.
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I like how you make a comment about "whos really in charge" which is pretty open ended and alludes to some mysterious layers of power and control. Then someone else says basically exactly the same thing and you go off your rocker and call them tinfoil Susie for saying basically the same thing.

Are you able to have a conversation with anyone without blowing up?

I also find it extremely improbable that there are this many aircraft and ships out there at any given time, although the scales are vastly different so yes there are vast empty spaces. But the only people who seem to encounter these things are the military who also happen to be the people who can't disclose things, so it's conveniently hidden.


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ENTP I can't help it I think for myself
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😂😂😂😂😂 you guys are cute


ENTP I can't help it I think for myself



Oh lord I should have known you were ENTP 😂
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It's a blessing and a curse.
Just saying, but looking back at roswell, something def happened there. A whole town confirmed to seeing a flying craft that crashed nearby. They had some national guard colonel on the news confirming what had happened on the news and trying to calm people. And then the next day, that dude was gone and they had some spook telling people it was a weather balloon??

Like really? Hundreds of people did not confuse a flying fuckin space craft with a weather balloon



Show us them aliens!!
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😂😂😂😂😂 you guys are cute


ENTP I can't help it I think for myself




Oh lord I should have known you were ENTP 😂




It's a blessing and a curse.



my condolences 😭 I’m getting a migraine just thinking about what it would feel like being an ENTP
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It's other peoples inability to think and listen that's the migraine.
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Just saying, but looking back at roswell, something def happened there. A whole town confirmed to seeing a flying craft that crashed nearby. They had some national guard colonel on the news confirming what had happened on the news and trying to calm people. And then the next day, that dude was gone and they had some spook telling people it was a weather balloon??
Like really? Hundreds of people did not confuse a flying fuckin space craft with a weather balloon


Show us them aliens!!



It’s ironic that not long after that Area 51 was created


And all the ppl that came out about the components in the “weather balloon” and what they saw ended up dying

How convenient this all is 🧐
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For real, "nOtHing to SeE heRe fOlkS"

I also heard that a number of presidents tried to get access and were denied. And it makes sense, like why would someone in office for a max of 8 years be shown stuff like that
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they've been doing this pseudo disclosure dance for ages, probably nothing will come out of it.
The alien material is in the hands of private interests which are above american government level and they won't give anything.
Plus in the decades they've been working on it they didn't really manage to pull any interesting tech out of it.
I'm sure we have.

You can deduce some basic mathematical operations in calculus even if the rest of it is gobbly gook to most of us😂

Private interest or not it's being funded by government. They can fuck themselves.

Pharmaceutical companies get enough of a free ride from discoveries paid by tax payers as it is.

We as citizens and a nation have to draw a line somewhere. This is a good one.
Unless they are gonna pay my bills, lower these prices of everything or give free ride outta here...idgaf. At this point...it's show me proof proof or stfu. Nothing more than a distraction that hilariously no one is caring about.
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I just want to know what they're capable of doing, their personality and what they think of earth and it's inhabitants (favorite species).
Sperm Whales and Orcas obviously, they don't even care to see us they just go straight to see them.
Watch aliens not even be interested in us, like they're really coming to pet dogs and cats
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I just want to know what they're capable of doing, their personality and what they think of earth and it's inhabitants (favorite species).




Sperm Whales and Orcas obviously, they don't even care to see us they just go straight to see them.



Octopus and anything that has the ability to camouflage

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Yes. there is a war going on down there between the Giant Squids and the Sperm Whales. Sperm Whales have freaking sonar guns in their heads that can kill a human with sound.
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I just want to know what they're capable of doing, their personality and what they think of earth and it's inhabitants (favorite species).


Sperm Whales and Orcas obviously, they don't even care to see us they just go straight to see them.


Octopus and anything that has the ability to camouflage
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Yes. there is a war going on down there between the Giant Squids and the Sperm Whales. Sperm Whales have freaking sonar guns in their heads that can kill a human with sound.



That would be a fire way to die. Might have my new suicide idea
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It's only theoretical at this point so you'd be donating yourself to science. They can create 230 decibels of sound. The sonic boom from a jet is 110...

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I also find it extremely improbable that there are this many aircraft and ships out there at any given time, although the scales are vastly different so yes there are vast empty spaces. But the only people who seem to encounter these things are the military who also happen to be the people who can't disclose things, so it's conveniently hidden.


Commercial pilots are experiencing as well

Per this Congress hearing. They want to Implement a reporting system that won’t cost them their jobs
Some are saying this hearing is just a step to operation blue beam

A tactic to make us believe so they can control us

https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/117w62t/ive_put_together_all_factchecked_project_blue/

NOw that makes more sense
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Watch aliens not even be interested in us, like they're really coming to pet dogs and cats



Somewhere out there, is a human lover.

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This is def the plot to more than a few romance books haha
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Did you even watch the video I linked, you did not mention it at all so I'm sure you didn't. I've watched the podcasts about it, I enjoyed it actually but I didn't really believe it and it did take me much convincing to think it wasn't true. I don't care if you have looked into it or not, but don't call me stupid and sloppy when I have actually put the effort in to see both sides of the argument at least as far as any evidence you've presented me.


There are tons of videos from debunkers whose theories are as wild and crazy as those of UFO enthusiasts.

What I took away from listening to your video:

"It's a weather balloon on the loose"

"It could possibly be a really big bird" 👍

Sure ok, we are in good hands if the #1 military power in the world with their billion dollar equipment cannot even tell the fucking difference between a weather balloon and a "really big bird" (a dead one apparently since radar shows it's a cold object) .

My favourite part is the total gaslighting of the navy pilots and their experiences: These men are supposed to be trained at observing and detecting... trusting their senses, in particuraly their eyes... knowing the equipment and what possible glitches and errors can occur... knowing what an optical illusion is or at least question anything that seems out of the ordinary BEFORE coming to extraordinary conclusions!

Yet this clown is suggesting quite literally what I said before "Oh they must have had something in their eyes". "Must be a weather balloon defying the laws of physics"

Case in point, his breaking down of Fraver's experience (from the 25 min video u posted)

"The best theory I've come up with is when he THOUGHT HE WAS FLYING IN A CIRCLE and this thing was mirroring him... there's this thing like a balloon or something flying around, he thinks it's following him but what he's really seeing is something not moving and he's just seeing like this illusion. . ." etc. [17:21]

My favourite part is how Fraver DESPITE THE MILLION $ $ $ EQUIPMENT and lifetime of training and experience cannot fucking tell if he's going in a circle or not. 😆
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