Crazy B*tchiz

Women who proclaim that they don't care about getting married get on my damn nerves. You're a liar and the truth ain't in ya! I am sick sick sick of the argument that you don't need a big dress or want to spend money or a reception or need a ring to signify your love. Ok GREAT heffer so what's your point? You don't need not none o' dat to get married. It's called Justice of the Peace.

The decline of civilization will lay at the hands and feet of women. WE are responsible for out of wedlock births. WE are responsible for single parent households. WE are responsible for dead beat dads as those now "men" were once our little boys. WE are responsible for the woman beaters, the drug addicts, the amoral a-holes because WE are the nurturers, WE are the first responders, WE are the last line of defense and when WE should've demanded more, WE allowed daddy to be anything but a man and a role model. Women's liberation has been turned on its ear and women of our generations have lost their damn minds.

Your man cheats, key HER car. Your man isn't YOUR man, sleep with him unprotected anyway. Your man doesn't have a job, let him lay up in YOUR air. Your man doesn't have a car, let him drive YOURS. Your man is married/dating, it's none of YOUR business.

Women make me sick, sick, sick with this BULLSHYTE! I can't find a good damn man because too many of you wanna-be liberated, make-up wearing, lip waxing, hair-dying, track wearing, manicured and pedicured heffers are cramping my style . True self-love and true self-respect means recognizing that the world wasn't completely broked before women's suffrage. There are indeed things that needed to be done away with but the role of man as a man isn't one of them.

PREACH!

What that says to me is that old-fashioned values and the way of things are gone. Down the loo, seesya, buh-bye, don't forget to write and *flush*. Which is really irritating to me as a female beyond all belief!
My viewpoints and way of thinking would be perfectly acceptable in my grandparents time frame. SO, where does this put us? Ohh, right about 1930 thanks.
Where would I be happiest? YEP, you guessed it. On a farm. Out in BFE, the BOONIES BABY. Baking, cooking, gardening, cleaning, chasing wee ones. Hanging wash on the line, scrubbing that stove till it shines. And guess what? There is a damned GOOD hard working MAN in that picture. Not a boy whose pants I need to change. Not a boy whose nose I need to wipe. But a MAN who values me and everything I do. Not just for him, but for the entire unit.
I am myself, and by no means do I embrace being a 'modern woman'. The very phrase is rather like a ball of snot in the back of my throat I'd like to expectorate and get rid of. Do you really think women back in the day had a problem with orchestrating things behind the scenes and letting a man take the reigns? I should think not. A matter of brains and prowess. She kept things going like a well oiled machine.
Marriage? The modern opinion is "Oh well, if it doesn't work out you can just get a divorce." Everything we should hold most dear is treated like rubbish, and that is just backwards and wrong.
And you must admit that since things turned away from the family as a unit, things have gone to hell in a handbasket!

clap, clap, clap, clap you go woman my hat is off to VB

Posted by satori
And there are still good men out there who value women for the right reasons and do not take advantage of them. I have not had a hard time finding good men.

But you blame women for men's bad behaviour. Why should we have to police them? If they are going to be losers, it's their loss that they can't have you... just move on.

You say that a woman shouldn't key another woman's car if she cheated with her man, but how is your aggression in this thread towards women about the difficiencies of men any less irratonal?

Again, I understand the points you are making about women needing to stop accepting less, but your disdain towards women is a little over-the-top and totally one-sided.

1. i have a good man

2. i'm blaming women because to date, we're the one's who give birth to men. so yes, you, i, we at some point will police them. it's called being a mother.

3. did you misunderstand that the ineptitude i addressed was that of women, not men.

4. of course it's one-sided. barring cloning, the human race would cease to exist if women stopped procreating correct? it starts and ends with us. we are the alpha and the omega.

can a woman/mother be held accountable for all the actions of her adult child(ren)? of course not. but up until the age of adulthood, we are 100% responsible. take that role seriously or you don't. and if you don't, what WE end up with is generations of failed human beings. you demand more of yourself, of our children's fathers, you change the tides. if not, WE all suffer.

*holding out skirts and curtseying deeply*

@VB - EXACTLY! women want to deny the reality that sure, you CAN do it all but nature dictates that you shouldn't have to. we birth the babies, we nurture them, we pick them up from day care, take them to after-school this/that after working God knows how many hours to bring home the bacon, cook the bacon, help with homework, feed the babies, wash the dishes, bathe the babies, read a book, put them to bed, clean the clothes, clean the house, sex the man after washing our arse, shaving our legs, plucking our eyebrows, clipping our nails, doing our hair and at some point we get to sleep.

now SOME of you may want to shoulder this burden...some of you may relish in a woman's work and do so without demanding that a MAN shoulder that burden as well but you're foolish to do so. thus, is it any wonder that a generation of boys are growing up as castrated men because what they have been taught, what they have seen, is that MOM...a WOMAN will and does do it all.

f-that! where's my shotgun!?!?

Hells yeh.

I shall indoctrinate my daughters with this movie at birth...

and yours looks like a hermaphrodite. point?

This thread is going epic soon.

eh-oh jason!

so a child's toy can violate children. you're an idiot.

ok...you and your sick mind can git! take the tranny with you. if you two want to discuss something that vile, post your own thread. freak.

"Where would I be happiest? YEP, you guessed it. On a farm. Out in BFE, the BOONIES BABY. Baking, cooking, gardening, cleaning, chasing wee ones. Hanging wash on the line, scrubbing that stove till it shines."

I'd be the farm down the gravel road from you, sister!

High five ramfish, we can swap seeds. 🙂

Posted by venusianbull
High five ramfish, we can swap seeds. 🙂

Let me guess...
You're a FARMVILLE junky aren't you?!?!

Absolutely not VH. I loathe apps. Was raised on a farm though, and am one happy chicky out in the country.

I will 'fess up to digging marble poppers ( kicked Zuma 1 & 2's butts tyvm ), Bejeweled, Fowl Words, Bookworm and puzzle games. Kicked Mosaic's tush too. 🙂

ramfish and V.B would lov Wales, green hills, small farms, we build walls like in Irland out of stone walk a lot. The good life.

I sincerely need to get in touch with my ancestry.

^^^can u hide that post like the 75% you hide anyway

i don't care about being married. it has nothing to do with the wedding process. i just don't see it as necessary for myself. does that mean i never will? no. i just won't feel like i'm missing something if i don't. i think it's possible to be in a committed, quality relationship without a legal document.

from what i've seen, most people (men and women) don't respect marriage anyway. i can't even count on two hands the amount of married couples i've encountered in my life that have slept with other people behind their partners' back. people get married with the expectation that it probably won't be the last time. they get divorced after a few years, or even a few months. now some would be inclined to say, well this is simply a sign that our values are declining, our good ole traditional values. that is a very naive statement. if you honestly believe that people from prior generations never engaged in adultery, or abused the privilege of being married to someone despite plenty of evidence to the contrary, then what that says is you have a pair of rose-tinted glasses on that should probably be coming off. human beings are flawed; we cannot hold ourselves to every ideal impressed upon us; we never will be able to, and attempting to do so, in my experience, results in only increased "problems".

also, blaming mothers for all of these problems sounds very freudian and retroactive to me. because sadly, good parenting (from either parent i might add, because fathers also ideally are playing a role in raising their children) can only go so far. unless your kid is living under a rock. everyone knows that as they get older, children listen to their parents less and less, and trying to change that only results in alienation, not having greater influence.

^^actually, what you said was naive. doesn't take much to compare stats. there is a moral decline in this country and around the world. there are costs to increased freedom.

and yeah, see women give birth to babies. beyond rape, molestation and sexual assault, in an age of birth control, morning after pills and abortion, women choose to bring a life into this world and women choose who they bring these lives into this world with.

if a woman gets pregnant and decides, i don't want this baby, aborts it. what choice does the father have? can he force her to carry?

if a women gets pregnant and decides, i want this baby and carries it to term. what choice does the father have? can he force her to abort?

as women we can deny our power and our worth and that's why the world is where it is. or we can stop regarding ourselves as the weaker sex and demand/command more from ourselves, our men and our children. would it eradicate the evils that men do? of course not. but will things dramatically change for the better? hell yeah!

Awww ^^

Woops! Posts a'plenty, the 'awwww' was for Jase's game. It's cute. 🙂

You make sense Awake, kudos to you for making a choice.

Posted by brobert

Parenting can only go so far, you're right. But it is the parent's goal, if they wanted that satisfaction and take that risk with the use of reproductive organ stimulation, then they should take responsibility for the child as well. To a certain extent, yes. But if you bring someone in the world, you better make sure you can look after them and make sure, once they reach maturity, take responsibility for MOST (not all) of your child's growth.

Yep, don't be this parent.


No harm came come out of plastic bags covering your children's mouth or nose! None at all!

My word does it take all types of idiocy to make up this world.

Wonderful. 🙂 The old fashioned brigade is alive. 🙂

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Posted by tubbyscubby
ok...you and your sick mind can git! take the tranny with you. if you two want to discuss something that vile, post your own thread. freak.

nutter. you started it !

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nah. it was your depraved sidekick.

i totally want to get married, what i dont want is a wedding. im not paying for anybodies dinner, im not writing thank you cards, im not dancing with everybody or putting on a show, im not planning shit, im not going to rehersals, im not posing for pictures, im not wearing a poofy dress, im not picking people to be maids, and i dont want anybody doing any of the listed for me because it will only piss me off. i 100% GENUINELY DONT WANT IT and this isnt a test to anyone. i hate all this shit with a passion. my ass is going to Bali and getting married. it's inexpensive to stay there and if my parents and 2 sisters want to go, yay.

^^^congrats.

i'm with Ewe though. not sure if it's a combo taurus and aries but my taurus fem friends aren't big on the actual ceremony and frills either. if my mom were alive, if i were younger, maybe. but even then, i think beyond saying yes or no, i'd loathe the planning.

i'd much rather take that chunk that would go into a wedding and for my new hubby and i to travel the world for a 4-8+ weeks. if friends want to come with and meet us at random destinations, all the better but i want my "wedding" to be memorable to me and be for me. of course even this isn't necessary but if the funds are there, if babies aren't on the way...i'm going on a world tour.

oh plus, i'd be a bridezilla spawned from the depths of hell if things start to fall apart and no one wants that.

for me, a large poofy dress would be equivalent to a straight jacket.

a bunch of people staring at me, grinning and smiling for no apparent reason would be akin to walking into a psycho ward at a hospital.

worry about my makeup all night would drive me insane.

dancing with random men as they pin money to my dress, insulting.

inviting people i haven't seen in decades just so they could eat food and give me crappy gifts i don't need (who needs a fondue maker?) is just a no-no.

choosing bridesmaids when all of my friends are 5'9+ is just not fair.

wearing a white dress when i'm sooooooooooooooooooo not a virgin, i wouldn't make it down the aisle.

renting a limo/hummer/whatever for unGodly amounts of money for just a few hours is enough to make this bull charge.

hmmm...and what if i cry during the ceremony? and what if it's an ugly cry? lord help me i wouldn't know what to do with myself.

Posted by tubbyscubby
^^^congrats.

i'm with Ewe though. not sure if it's a combo taurus and aries but my taurus fem friends aren't big on the actual ceremony and frills either. if my mom were alive, if i were younger, maybe. but even then, i think beyond saying yes or no, i'd loathe the planning.

i'd much rather take that chunk that would go into a wedding and for my new hubby and i to travel the world for a 4-8+ weeks. if friends want to come with and meet us at random destinations, all the better but i want my "wedding" to be memorable to me and be for me. of course even this isn't necessary but if the funds are there, if babies aren't on the way...i'm going on a world tour.

yeah the hoopla just isn't something i value. don't get me wrong i love weddings and im grateful that my friends always invite me to theirs. obviously id want my parents and his parents there and the sisters and brothers because we're all family now but im weird and i dont like to share or show off my "love" so to speak. i guess it could be considered possessive but it's like, i have this great wonderful man and nobody gets him like i do and nobody knows what we have and i dont want them to because im selfish. i probably sound like im antisocial but it's not that. i guess i just dont want to expose anything because it's special. wow this is way cheeseball

depends on his name. had a friend marry an asian guy. his last name is ho.

another friend married a guy with the last name gross.

there are somethings that love just won't make me do.

whoa... ur kinda scary. that being said, i think ur kinda cool too 😉

there's a moral decline? how does one define and measure a moral decline? and from what period to now is this moral decline occurring? because as far as i can tell, plenty of immoral (a subjective term) things have been taking place since the beginning of recorded human history.

Posted by brobert
The goal of the parent is to provide stability to their child, to teach them what works and then let them grow from their own experiences. They also need to be their for their child until they are mature enough to live on their own. That is the goal of the parent; not to hold the childs, or now adults hand, when they have shown the maturity and functionality to live on their own.

Parenting can only go so far, you're right. But it is the parent's goal, if they wanted that satisfaction and take that risk with the use of reproductive organ stimulation, then they should take responsibility for the child as well. To a certain extent, yes. But if you bring someone in the world, you better make sure you can look after them and make sure, once they reach maturity, take responsibility for MOST (not all) of your child's growth.

so does this, as the OP suggests, only apply to mothers then? because i'm noticing a conspicuous use of the word "parent", so i just want to make sure i understand exactly what you're saying.

not sure about you chicky but growing up, i knew all of my neighbors. every kid on my block played with each other. our parents raised us all. if ms. whomever said don't, we didn't.

i have friends and fam who are teachers. i was considering substituting on days when i didn't have any web work. i said i would prefer elementary. you know what i was told? that the elementary school aged kids are more likely to curse you out than those in HS. that at most, for the ones in HS, you have to be careful of the young boys as some might get fresh with you. but if you stand your ground, they will respect you.

can you imagine having cursed out your elementary school teachers? your peers doing it?

turn on the tv now. remember our cartoons? smurfs, snorks, care bears. today it's spongebob and fairly odd parents which to be honest with you, are just lessons in sarcasm.

naivete is deminishing...rapidly. 100 years ago there was no television. your neighbor, your neighbor's neighbor, some housewife in (insert city) wasn't parading her life in public view.

the world is getting smaller and in some ways, that's not a good thing.

Posted by brobert
let alone, i didn't even read the OP's message. i'm just discussing parenting in general xD

ohhhhh you kids and your teensy weensy attention spans.

though i don't disagree with you domino. but to deny that there are multiple factors influencing the development of any individual at any given time would be erroneous.

father's are sperm donors...until they're not. there's a book that was written a couple years back for new fathers by a new father. the reality is, a woman has 10 months of bonding with the new addition. her kinship of nurturing this growing entity within her own body is something that a man will NEVER experience. by default, a man is behind the 8-ball when it comes connection. that's not to say that a father is incapable. rather, that the relationship between a father and child is one that needs to be fostered in a different way....neither one better than the other...just different.

i think that's why men who have children later in life are generally much better fathers...better nurturers.

and why is that toad referring to me as an acronym. i don't like him posting within my topics. someone make it go away.

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Posted by tubbyscubby
the world is getting smaller and in some ways, that's not a good thing.

Too many people confuse metaphorical speaking and literary in the phrase "the world is getting smaller".

What that phrase means is that we are able to interact with people regardless of physical boundaries. Our world is not getting smaller, it is in fact, metaphorically speaking getting larger. The more we communicate, the more lessons we learn, the more broader our understandings are. What are you suggesting, we cut communication with each other? We go to a more conservative approach that only points backwards? In this case....

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go to college first then try to speak to me intellectually. at the moment, engaging with you is beneath me as i find your comments baiting and deficient...lacking.

Posted by tubbyscubby
turn on the tv now. remember our cartoons? smurfs, snorks, care bears. today it's spongebob and fairly odd parents which to be honest with you, are just lessons in sarcasm.

i'm not sure if this was addressed to me or to other posters in general, but just for the sake of honesty, i'm a member of theeeee rugrats and doug generation. caught a bit of spongebob and fairly oddparents in my preteen years.

Posted by Jason2213
Not even if he was so...perfect? Amazing chemistry, amazing compatibility, amazing everything. You'd still walk away because of a funny name?

never said i would walk away. i said i would not change my last name to "Roach" for example.

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Posted by trifles light as air*

Posted by tubbyscubby
turn on the tv now. remember our cartoons? smurfs, snorks, care bears. today it's spongebob and fairly odd parents which to be honest with you, are just lessons in sarcasm.

i'm not sure if this was addressed to me or to other posters in general, but just for the sake of honesty, i'm a member of theeeee rugrats and doug generation. caught a bit of spongebob and fairly oddparents in my preteen years.

OMFG I miss rugrats and Doug. 😢

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LMAO! SKEETER *HONK* *HONK*

oh and for the record, i still watch cartoons. avatar, the last airbender was masterful!

yeah @ jason. a woman can decline your last name. she can hyphenate it. your kids don't even technically have to have your surname.

the quote function and i are not getting along tonight. eh, i'll make amends with it some other day.

jason - yes it is certainly possible, just not common or generally accepted.