Do you deserve to ((suffer)) if you do not ((serve))? ☽**
This topic was created in the Miscellaneous forum by xxAjuxx on Thursday, April 25, 2024 and has 16 replies.
Is one not allowed the treasures of the earth if one does not give? Should serving others be the number one thing to care about? Not the "only" thing but the number one thing. How much do you love your oxygen? How much do you love your ground you are standing on? What about gravity? All these things here are serving us, serving you and making sure we survive and live better lives. What about the one who created the Internet or the one that created cars? What about the one that helped you pick up your things or the one that sat with you when you really needed someone to actually listen ? How do we become richer? We serve and we find ways to serve more. Not just by using our time. But then, my question remains, should serving others be the reason why we should live? What about those who starve on the streets not serving others? Or the ones in jail? Are they to die? Are they equal to our poop we flush down the toilet?
Secret Question: Those who create more threads here or make the drama and give more fun, should they be the only ones who rise? Should everyone else be in the cold and not enjoy more? So then If the ones who take by force are an abnormality, a flaw and is the reason they receive the energy of "sin* or negative kick back from this realm. My question remains, should they suffer as they do? In what way should they not suffer?
Secret Question: Do we deserve what we want by not doing anything for it? Does everything have a price?
Posted by WurtedThank you 🙏
thinking this is service to self vs service to others
karmically, I think you get tied up if you neglect the path
But that could be guilt speaking
I think it's all weighed up
And ultimately following your highest good is an act of service so it has a knock on effect
Yes!!
And then there is something interesting about that. How our highest good always serve others. So then we shouldn't be ashamed to go down this path. What brings us joy.
Not at all.
“should serving others be the reason why we should live?”
i feel like being kind to others, serving others is something you just naturally wanna do if you feel grateful for things other people have done for you in life. it’s not so much about good karma/bad karma i don’t really believe in karma anyways cuz not all bad deeds are punished and not all good deeds are rewarded in this world unfortunately.
so to me, it’s more about wanting to contribute something because i feel grateful and stuff. i’ve been helped by many people so i naturally wanna give back//pay it forward as much as i can.
so in my mind, i don’t see “serving others” as some sorta hassle or some sorta mission or some sorta ego boost or some sorta karma related stuff.
i just see it as something natural, something that feels right.
our society is being sustained due to people helping each other out.
no one can do everything by themselves.
like for example, if you have electricity in your house, you can thank the electric company for that. even though you’re the one paying the electric bill, there are still people working behind the scenes to get the electricity to your house. same with the water from your tap.
if you go to the gym to work out, guess who built that gym? other people such as construction workers and business men/women who initially got the idea for the gym. if you go to the grocery store to buy fresh produce, who is growing that produce and who is getting that produce to the store so we can buy it?
who built the roads we are driving on?
these might be things we take for granted but we are being helped by other people more than we think. so it’s only natural to wanna contribute something to society whenever we can.
i feel like being kind to others, serving others is something you just naturally wanna do if you feel grateful for things other people have done for you in life. it’s not so much about good karma/bad karma i don’t really believe in karma anyways cuz not all bad deeds are punished and not all good deeds are rewarded in this world unfortunately.
so to me, it’s more about wanting to contribute something because i feel grateful and stuff. i’ve been helped by many people so i naturally wanna give back//pay it forward as much as i can.
so in my mind, i don’t see “serving others” as some sorta hassle or some sorta mission or some sorta ego boost or some sorta karma related stuff.
i just see it as something natural, something that feels right.
our society is being sustained due to people helping each other out.
no one can do everything by themselves.
like for example, if you have electricity in your house, you can thank the electric company for that. even though you’re the one paying the electric bill, there are still people working behind the scenes to get the electricity to your house. same with the water from your tap.
if you go to the gym to work out, guess who built that gym? other people such as construction workers and business men/women who initially got the idea for the gym. if you go to the grocery store to buy fresh produce, who is growing that produce and who is getting that produce to the store so we can buy it?
who built the roads we are driving on?
these might be things we take for granted but we are being helped by other people more than we think. so it’s only natural to wanna contribute something to society whenever we can.
“What about those who starve on the streets not serving others? Or the ones in jail? Are they to die? Are they equal to our poop we flush down the toilet?”
the people starving on the streets and other people who are “vulnerable and in need of help” are probably there to instill compassion in others. cuz how else will humans develop any compassion if nobody needed help? i dunno but that’s how i see it
the people in jail?
well, if they committed an atrocious crime, they should be in there thinking about what they did.
they’re also probably in there to let other people who are thinking of committing a similar crime know that there are consequences to crimes.
the people starving on the streets and other people who are “vulnerable and in need of help” are probably there to instill compassion in others. cuz how else will humans develop any compassion if nobody needed help? i dunno but that’s how i see it
the people in jail?
well, if they committed an atrocious crime, they should be in there thinking about what they did.
they’re also probably in there to let other people who are thinking of committing a similar crime know that there are consequences to crimes.
“Do we deserve what we want by not doing anything for it?”
no
“Does everything have a price?”
yeah
no
“Does everything have a price?”
yeah
But, and excuse my libraness here, even those who don't "serve" in the way we would think of it are serving a purpose. Because it keeps a balance (there's the libraness lol) in the universe. Even bad things, bad deeds, serve a purpose. Sadness sucks, but it's needed. The whole yin yang thing.
I posted a comment about a cancer dude that "serves" via "good deeds" in order to (basically) earn good karma. Not because he naturally just wants to help, but because he wants the universe to reward him somehow because he did those things. Then he gets mad when he doesn't get what he wants because in his mind he earned it. Now, I find it annoying because he's just expecting it to be transactional and then he's whining and yelling because he didn't get what he wanted by doing it. I do, however, appreciate that the things he did were done, and also realize most people don't know WHY he did it and it makes them happy irregardless of his true reasoning. So, even if his reasons don't track with my morals, I appreciate what he does and feel that his "brand" of kindness aka service is needed. Because if you take away the why, he's done a lot of things that helped a lot of people in ways that extend beyond the actual act of service itself. It does make me sad that he can't get joy from that, but I guess that's not his path in this life. Maybe his soul will still learn that lesson, even if his present human form doesn't.
I don't think that life or existence should be transactional so no, I don't think that those that don't "serve" deserve to suffer. Because I think that they serve a purpose too, even if it's different than what we as a collective think of as a life with a purpose.
I posted a comment about a cancer dude that "serves" via "good deeds" in order to (basically) earn good karma. Not because he naturally just wants to help, but because he wants the universe to reward him somehow because he did those things. Then he gets mad when he doesn't get what he wants because in his mind he earned it. Now, I find it annoying because he's just expecting it to be transactional and then he's whining and yelling because he didn't get what he wanted by doing it. I do, however, appreciate that the things he did were done, and also realize most people don't know WHY he did it and it makes them happy irregardless of his true reasoning. So, even if his reasons don't track with my morals, I appreciate what he does and feel that his "brand" of kindness aka service is needed. Because if you take away the why, he's done a lot of things that helped a lot of people in ways that extend beyond the actual act of service itself. It does make me sad that he can't get joy from that, but I guess that's not his path in this life. Maybe his soul will still learn that lesson, even if his present human form doesn't.
I don't think that life or existence should be transactional so no, I don't think that those that don't "serve" deserve to suffer. Because I think that they serve a purpose too, even if it's different than what we as a collective think of as a life with a purpose.
Wether you believe in karma or not the natural laws of the world have shown us that if you don't give you can't receive.
Even if you spoil someone and give them everything, they can't keep it cause the natural law dictates that you have to work to maintain something.
And if it's not you maintaining it, is it really yours?
Even if you spoil someone and give them everything, they can't keep it cause the natural law dictates that you have to work to maintain something.
And if it's not you maintaining it, is it really yours?
Posted by TheGreenFairie“Because it keeps a balance (there's the libraness lol) in the universe. Even bad things, bad deeds, serve a purpose. Sadness sucks, but it's needed. The whole yin yang thing.“
But, and excuse my libraness here, even those who don't "serve" in the way we would think of it are serving a purpose. Because it keeps a balance (there's the libraness lol) in the universe. Even bad things, bad deeds, serve a purpose. Sadness sucks, but it's needed. The whole yin yang thing.
I posted a comment about a cancer dude that "serves" via "good deeds" in order to (basically) earn good karma. Not because he naturally just wants to help, but because he wants the universe to reward him somehow because he did those things. Then he gets mad when he doesn't get what he wants because in his mind he earned it. Now, I find it annoying because he's just expecting it to be transactional and then he's whining and yelling because he didn't get what he wanted by doing it. I do, however, appreciate that the things he did were done, and also realize most people don't know WHY he did it and it makes them happy irregardless of his true reasoning. So, even if his reasons don't track with my morals, I appreciate what he does and feel that his "brand" of kindness aka service is needed. Because if you take away the why, he's done a lot of things that helped a lot of people in ways that extend beyond the actual act of service itself. It does make me sad that he can't get joy from that, but I guess that's not his path in this life. Maybe his soul will still learn that lesson, even if his present human form doesn't.
I don't think that life or existence should be transactional so no, I don't think that those that don't "serve" deserve to suffer. Because I think that they serve a purpose too, even if it's different than what we as a collective think of as a life with a purpose.
i agree. we couldn’t know joy without knowing pain.
if our lives were made up solely of happy, easy breezy events one after the other, we would begin to feel jaded.
if happiness became the default state/the norm, we wouldn’t learn any important lessons.
without pain, we wouldn’t develop any empathy or patience or perseverance or resilience or any problem solving skill for that matter.
pain is much needed for us to evolve and grow.
I serve whether I receive reciprocation or not.
I'm always very grateful and humble when I do.
I'm always very grateful and humble when I do.
idk but that sounds like dark virgo mentality
Posted by virgoOPPPi actually know a virgo woman who had a midlife crisis because she thought she wasn’t serving enough, doing enough for other people.
idk but that sounds like dark virgo mentality
i think when serving others becomes a source of anxiety, or something you beat yourself up for, then you should slow down and focus on recharging/replenishing yourself too.
on the other hand tho, i also know someone who is only hustling to serve himself and he seems unhappy and not really at peace with how things are in his life.
being self-serving alienates a lot of people. i think his own parents aren’t even talking to him anymore.
Posted by WurtedThere is so much wisdom here..Posted by xxAjuxxPosted by Wurted
thinking this is service to self vs service to others
karmically, I think you get tied up if you neglect the path
But that could be guilt speaking
I think it's all weighed up
And ultimately following your highest good is an act of service so it has a knock on effect
Thank you 🙏
Yes!!
And then there is something interesting about that. How our highest good always serve others. So then we shouldn't be ashamed to go down this path. What brings us joy.
Not at all.
click to expand
Exactly aju
It's actually easier to surrender to it
Follow your path, equals in service
It's a natural expression of who you are
Plus you get reverted back to your purpos if you ignore it, so you may as well just do itclick to expand
Thank you for this
Posted by SagicornThank you 🙏 Sagicorn
I believe we all serve a purpose in life. Someone's might seem small, someone's change the course of events...but regardless, we all have a purpose/serve for something. I truly believe that. Even if our purpose is something we might not even notice or realize that was our purpose. I started thinking about that when my mom got sick and I really believe my purpose was to take care of her. Because there was no one else that could help her at a time and she would not be able to do anything alone. Maybe my purpose is something many people have and it may not be as significant, but I believe it was of the ultimate importance for that moment in time.
Is your mom still here with us?
Being there for your mother is the ultimate way of helping her. Moments like that are not easy but the love there might make it seem like a breeze.
Do you believe that we must find out what our purpose is and not let the world find that out for us?
Posted by hoeflationThank you 🙏 @hoeflation
If you can’t be used you are useless - Kanye West
I’m useless - Ands
What is Kanye talking about. I don't like how he says that. Do you truly believe you are not serving anyone and so you are useless? Your dog seems to really love you and you bring a lot of smiles to the site.
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