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Just putting my idea in before someone else, Transistors. Greatest Invention! Will be back with more 😛
The transistor is the fundamental building block of modern electronic devices, and is ubiquitous in modern electronic systems. Following its development in the early 1950s, the transistor revolutionized the field of electronics, and paved the way for smaller and cheaper radios, calculators, and computers, among other things. (wikipedia)
Basically I'm classifying an invention as a device and clarifying it from what is often considered a 'discovery'. Original thought was the invention of the Internet but I felt that argument might've lead here so I traced back to further discoveries and inventions and I believe transistors is indeed an invention worthy of that title.
As said it is the building block of technology and an analogy can be given they are like the cells, building blocks of life. Anything prior to the invention of transistor such as vacuum tubes have their merits but it wasn't until transistors came in the picture that technology started to dominate.
We use it everyday and we're using it now. Every device everyone holds dear to is a direct result of transistors. Maybe great moment in our history can be attributed to the invention of it. From the radio, our tvs, the COLOUR tvs, computers all the way up to the space race, Hadron Collider and even your precious phones 😉
Basically I'm classifying an invention as a device and clarifying it from what is often considered a 'discovery'. Original thought was the invention of the Internet but I felt that argument might've lead here so I traced back to further discoveries and inventions and I believe transistors is indeed an invention worthy of that title.
As said it is the building block of technology and an analogy can be given they are like the cells, building blocks of life. Anything prior to the invention of transistor such as vacuum tubes have their merits but it wasn't until transistors came in the picture that technology started to dominate.
We use it everyday and we're using it now. Every device everyone holds dear to is a direct result of transistors. Maybe great moment in our history can be attributed to the invention of it. From the radio, our tvs, the COLOUR tvs, computers all the way up to the space race, Hadron Collider and even your precious phones 😉
Cool choice! 🙂
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After much mulling and deliberation..... I think that:
Nikola Tesla's AC Induction Motor has had the greatest impact on mankind.
Above: One of the original AC Tesla Induction Motors on display in the British Science Museum in London. This motor was referenced in T.C. Martin's book as loaned by Tesla to Prof. Ayrton in England. In 1892, Tesla delivered his famous lecture before the Institution of Electrical Engineers and the Royal Institution of Great Britain, in London, where he gave his original induction motor to Prof. Ayrton. Photo from Jim Morford.
Tesla worked with the well known Thomas Edison on many of his projects as. But it was Tesla who first took Michael Farady's Law of elctromagnetic conduction to generate electricy to transfer energy/heat over a metal wire that was alternating current and not direct current
It is not technically the first electric generator....It is just the the first working model of AC (alternating current) transmission which is much better for long distance electrical power due to it's lossless nature. "Lossless" meaning that over long distances the power that is generated is not lost and converted to some other type of energy. The main reason for this is the alternating current nature of the invention ...the dynamos of the time used commutators to deliver direct current which meant that literally electrons would be traveling long distances in the same direction.
Nikola Tesla's AC Induction Motor has had the greatest impact on mankind.
Above: One of the original AC Tesla Induction Motors on display in the British Science Museum in London. This motor was referenced in T.C. Martin's book as loaned by Tesla to Prof. Ayrton in England. In 1892, Tesla delivered his famous lecture before the Institution of Electrical Engineers and the Royal Institution of Great Britain, in London, where he gave his original induction motor to Prof. Ayrton. Photo from Jim Morford.
Tesla worked with the well known Thomas Edison on many of his projects as. But it was Tesla who first took Michael Farady's Law of elctromagnetic conduction to generate electricy to transfer energy/heat over a metal wire that was alternating current and not direct current
It is not technically the first electric generator....It is just the the first working model of AC (alternating current) transmission which is much better for long distance electrical power due to it's lossless nature. "Lossless" meaning that over long distances the power that is generated is not lost and converted to some other type of energy. The main reason for this is the alternating current nature of the invention ...the dynamos of the time used commutators to deliver direct current which meant that literally electrons would be traveling long distances in the same direction.
But it became clear quite clear that DC was not practical because it was not easy to step up and down in voltage for household use without a lot of loss. So DC would have power losses in only a square block due to judy wanting the lights on in her house....So the power would have to be stepped down in the MANY MANY power stations required to regulate and step down the DC power. Not only this but until Teslas AC generator there was even problems with the transmission wires themselves. At high voltages DC is very dangerous but to get the same amount of power at lower voltages it would require you to increase the current because P = VxI. So, Back in the 1880s like this picture below not only did they use a ridiculous amount of wires but very huge thick ones too at that to try and accommodate the increase in current flow for to achieve the same power supplied at higher voltages. If they kept the wires the same size or were smaller with the increased current, so much more Power would be lost to heat because of the inherent resistance from the smaller diameter wire.
The drawing on left is NYC in the 1800s when DC power reigned and the protocols and current standards where being worked out). The photo on the right is the same street 10 years later.
AC electrical distribution systems can easily allow changes in voltage using transformers. This gives AC electrical distribution systems a great advantage compared to DC.
By using transformers, AC power can be changed up to very high voltages for transmission and then changed down again to safer voltages for consumers to use, with comparatively very much less loss of power than DC.
AC has less copper loss (more heating effect) than DC and it's easier and cheaper to produce too.
While that might not sound all that significant to some it was quite significant for the time.....AC power systems have no only saved money due to the reduction in transmission lines required to supply the power but the amount power lost in a AC power system is so low it's almost negligable in a lot of cases....which means that almost 100% of the deisful fuel, steam, wind, or nuclear energy being used to drive the turbine of Teslas AC generator is being converted to electricity, stepped up or down, and suppliied to the customer safely without losing barely any of th
The drawing on left is NYC in the 1800s when DC power reigned and the protocols and current standards where being worked out). The photo on the right is the same street 10 years later.
AC electrical distribution systems can easily allow changes in voltage using transformers. This gives AC electrical distribution systems a great advantage compared to DC.
By using transformers, AC power can be changed up to very high voltages for transmission and then changed down again to safer voltages for consumers to use, with comparatively very much less loss of power than DC.
AC has less copper loss (more heating effect) than DC and it's easier and cheaper to produce too.
While that might not sound all that significant to some it was quite significant for the time.....AC power systems have no only saved money due to the reduction in transmission lines required to supply the power but the amount power lost in a AC power system is so low it's almost negligable in a lot of cases....which means that almost 100% of the deisful fuel, steam, wind, or nuclear energy being used to drive the turbine of Teslas AC generator is being converted to electricity, stepped up or down, and suppliied to the customer safely without losing barely any of th
the converted energy along the way. Literally most power systems are like 90th perctile of efficiency some as high as 98% to 99% efficient! It is about the only system/engine of energy conversion that has this kind of lossless nature. The combustion engine in your car can have as low as 10% but only at best around 50% conversion efficiency!
Posted by aquasnoz
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lol
This alternating electric power generator of Tesla's is essentially the same design used today because it is that good.... and that practical to generate electricity this way. I'll admit studying Electrical Engineering ...alternating current makes calculating and designing anything in electricity A BIG FAT PAIN IN THE ASS!!!! Because now you have not only voltage and current to consider but also the frequency of the waveform as well and all the difficulties that can bring. ^.^ but it is worth the outcome it is just not fun to design that's all I'm saying. hahah
Anyways, I think this invention has had the greatest impact on mankind because it has allowed for massive supply of Electricity over long distances across the world with the least amount of power loss due to the utilization of transformers the coils in transformers can easily step and down the voltages of the power being supplied with out any loss.... DC electricity cannot use electrical induction in this same way soooo instead of uses relatively cheap transformers (which are literally pretty much just two coils in close proximity of each other but actually physically connected...however the magnetic fields the coils windings create induce currents in the other coil and thus in turn generate and supply stepped up or down voltage power supply to the other end of the power system where ever it may be going. With out this invention if you think your electricity bill is how now....it would at least be twice that amount in a DC power system and likely even more than that. Also, without it you would possibly not even have power depending on how far away you lived.
That AC or central cooling you love to run during the humidity of summmer...nope won't work. The clothes won't be wash by the washing machine your going to do that shit by hand. Your TV won't be working ...hell you won't even get your cable provided there will be no electricity to transmit the shit to your house. Your computer....won't work and there will be no internet. Until someone like Tesla came up with an economical and practical way to harness the power electricity you might not be enjoying a lot of the luxuries you take for granted every day. The car you drive....the alternator that keeps that battery charged to give you the initial mmmph to turn the engine over ...yeah that alternator is base exactly off of Tesla's AC induction motor...it's probably even a close replica to that one you see in the picture I provided.
Anyways, I think this invention has had the greatest impact on mankind because it has allowed for massive supply of Electricity over long distances across the world with the least amount of power loss due to the utilization of transformers the coils in transformers can easily step and down the voltages of the power being supplied with out any loss.... DC electricity cannot use electrical induction in this same way soooo instead of uses relatively cheap transformers (which are literally pretty much just two coils in close proximity of each other but actually physically connected...however the magnetic fields the coils windings create induce currents in the other coil and thus in turn generate and supply stepped up or down voltage power supply to the other end of the power system where ever it may be going. With out this invention if you think your electricity bill is how now....it would at least be twice that amount in a DC power system and likely even more than that. Also, without it you would possibly not even have power depending on how far away you lived.
That AC or central cooling you love to run during the humidity of summmer...nope won't work. The clothes won't be wash by the washing machine your going to do that shit by hand. Your TV won't be working ...hell you won't even get your cable provided there will be no electricity to transmit the shit to your house. Your computer....won't work and there will be no internet. Until someone like Tesla came up with an economical and practical way to harness the power electricity you might not be enjoying a lot of the luxuries you take for granted every day. The car you drive....the alternator that keeps that battery charged to give you the initial mmmph to turn the engine over ...yeah that alternator is base exactly off of Tesla's AC induction motor...it's probably even a close replica to that one you see in the picture I provided.
Further more it is cheap and easy to convert to DC current any time one feels the need to do so by utilization of as little as two diodes to form a simple rectifier that forces all the current to flow in only one direction. Do you know how much a diode costs? I bet you buy it in bulk and can get some lest then $ .05 cents who knows maybe a 1 cent or less I'm going to go look right now. haha
Having studied electrical engineering I don't think I can doubt Tesla's genius but I do believe he further developed the idea of the AC current and its generation
If you're argument is based on the greatness of AC current I won't deny but I will actually challenge that invention! Is it really that or a facilitator for the public to acknowledge the potential of AC power?
"William Stanley, Jr. designed one of the first practical devices to transfer AC power efficiently between isolated circuits. Using pairs of coils wound on a common iron core, his design, called an induction coil, was an early transformer. The AC power system used today developed rapidly after 1886, and included contributions by Nikola Tesla (licensed to George Westinghouse) and Carl Wilhelm Siemens."
So this has already existed!
But you can't fundamentally rule out DC as a source because acting together they would have that impact as a whole on humanity if you want to count in the electronic devices powered by them.
This is where I think the the control part comes in. AC power is great in itself but without controlling it how are we to master and utilise it? This is where I believe Transistors comes into play.
Think of it as our way of mastering fire as caveman 😉
If you're argument is based on the greatness of AC current I won't deny but I will actually challenge that invention! Is it really that or a facilitator for the public to acknowledge the potential of AC power?
"William Stanley, Jr. designed one of the first practical devices to transfer AC power efficiently between isolated circuits. Using pairs of coils wound on a common iron core, his design, called an induction coil, was an early transformer. The AC power system used today developed rapidly after 1886, and included contributions by Nikola Tesla (licensed to George Westinghouse) and Carl Wilhelm Siemens."
So this has already existed!
But you can't fundamentally rule out DC as a source because acting together they would have that impact as a whole on humanity if you want to count in the electronic devices powered by them.
This is where I think the the control part comes in. AC power is great in itself but without controlling it how are we to master and utilise it? This is where I believe Transistors comes into play.
Think of it as our way of mastering fire as caveman 😉
Okay fine going under 5 cents was pushing it haha but I found some zener diods for only $ .096 cents!
And you only need two for a simple rectify and a vwhala... instant DC current at your descretion. For less than 2 dollars. I mean the vast impact of this invention is by far ...somewhat overlooked I think. And I feel Tesla at times does not even get the credit he deserves just like other great scientists but life is a bitch I suppose.
I mean can you Imagine living out in the country these days no AC....the sun is such a friggen treachery ...I really wonder if it is hotter on average today than it was in the past when their was no AC. Because Damn I really I would have to consider to sleep outside than in my own hot ass house. I dunno how people in India do it ....there are people there who still live without it at times ...and it gets believably hot over there. Like 110 degrees is normal some parts 0.0
And if you think your cell phone is great or hell if you think it is annoying that someone can try an get in contact with anywhere these days.... NO steady state AC regulated power system .... you may not have a phone line. Mine has worked when the power has gone out but there is a simple reason for that I'll provide a quote since I'm sure I'll hear it from dimplez if I don't.
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it takes very little power to operate a telephone.
Between your house and the phone company's office there is a dedicated pair of copper wires for your phone. Those wires are almost always buried, so ice storms and hurricanes will not cut them. The phone company supplies the power that your phone needs using your dedicated copper pair.
So even if the power goes out in your house, the phone still gets the power it needs through the phone line. And at the phone company office there is an extensive battery system, as well as a backup generator, to supply power during a power failure. If the power goes out, the batteries and generators keep the office fully pow?_ered. Therefore, all of the phones connected to the office are fully powered as well.
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http://www.howstuffworks.com/question62.htm
And you only need two for a simple rectify and a vwhala... instant DC current at your descretion. For less than 2 dollars. I mean the vast impact of this invention is by far ...somewhat overlooked I think. And I feel Tesla at times does not even get the credit he deserves just like other great scientists but life is a bitch I suppose.
I mean can you Imagine living out in the country these days no AC....the sun is such a friggen treachery ...I really wonder if it is hotter on average today than it was in the past when their was no AC. Because Damn I really I would have to consider to sleep outside than in my own hot ass house. I dunno how people in India do it ....there are people there who still live without it at times ...and it gets believably hot over there. Like 110 degrees is normal some parts 0.0
And if you think your cell phone is great or hell if you think it is annoying that someone can try an get in contact with anywhere these days.... NO steady state AC regulated power system .... you may not have a phone line. Mine has worked when the power has gone out but there is a simple reason for that I'll provide a quote since I'm sure I'll hear it from dimplez if I don't.
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it takes very little power to operate a telephone.
Between your house and the phone company's office there is a dedicated pair of copper wires for your phone. Those wires are almost always buried, so ice storms and hurricanes will not cut them. The phone company supplies the power that your phone needs using your dedicated copper pair.
So even if the power goes out in your house, the phone still gets the power it needs through the phone line. And at the phone company office there is an extensive battery system, as well as a backup generator, to supply power during a power failure. If the power goes out, the batteries and generators keep the office fully pow?_ered. Therefore, all of the phones connected to the office are fully powered as well.
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http://www.howstuffworks.com/question62.htm
There was not the power system we have today that has it's electricity generated by Tesla's AC generator you phone company even with that dedicated wire could not provide you the precious power you would need to transmit a call in a emergency when the power does go out.
Posted by aquasnoz
Having studied electrical engineering I don't think I can doubt Tesla's genius but I do believe he further developed the idea of the AC current and its generation
If you're argument is based on the greatness of AC current I won't deny but I will actually challenge that invention! Is it really that or a facilitator for the public to acknowledge the potential of AC power?
"William Stanley, Jr. designed one of the first practical devices to transfer AC power efficiently between isolated circuits. Using pairs of coils wound on a common iron core, his design, called an induction coil, was an early transformer. The AC power system used today developed rapidly after 1886, and included contributions by Nikola Tesla (licensed to George Westinghouse) and Carl Wilhelm Siemens."
So this has already existed!
Dude these both we around the same time period and can you tell my why Stanley's idea is not the one used still to this day ^.^? I mean I could have just blanketed all AC power generators but I wanted to give Tesla some much deserved love. Tesla claimed anyway to have conceived the generator as early as 1882.
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n April 1887, Tesla started a company, the Tesla Electric Company, with the backing of New York attorney Charles F. Peck and Alfred S. Brown, the director of Western Union. They set up a laboratory for Tesla at 89 Liberty St. in Manhattan so he could work on his alternating current motor and other devices for power distribution, with an agreement that they share fifty-fifty with Tesla any profits generated from patents.[59] It was here in 1887 that Tesla constructed a brushless alternating current induction motor, based on a rotating magnetic field principle he claimed to have conceived of in 1882.[60] He received a US patent for the motor in May 1888.[61] At that time many inventors were trying to develop workable AC motors[62] because AC's advantages in long distance high voltage transmission were counterbalanced by the inability to operate motors on AC.
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And how bout you Snoz? I haven't heard you claim a 'specific' transistor just the transistor....itself. There are many types and some are outdated, bad and others are superior better suited for other uses. I mean are we tal
And how bout you Snoz? I haven't heard you claim a 'specific' transistor just the transistor....itself. There are many types and some are outdated, bad and others are superior better suited for other uses. I mean are we talking about the Bipolar Junction Transistor (GJT) best for current amplification and first invented at bell labs by the Engineers:John Bardeen, William Shockley and Walter Brattain at Bell Labs, 1948.
Are we talking about Field Effect Transistor (FET) which is better suited to voltage amplification.... or a JFET....CMOS hmm which buddy 😛
Are we talking about Field Effect Transistor (FET) which is better suited to voltage amplification.... or a JFET....CMOS hmm which buddy 😛
Posted by NotYourAverageAquarius
There was not the power system we have today that has it's electricity generated by Tesla's AC generator you phone company even with that dedicated wire could not provide you the precious power you would need to transmit a call in a emergency when the power does go out.
Oh and to expound upon this fact... just cause your battery on your cell hasn't died yet doesn't mean the Cell towers have the power to transmit your signal. And that battery is only going to last Oh so long 😉
And actually now that I re-read what you posted I just realized what that guy made!
It's late and I'm sorta tired so I misread it earlier......
What William Stanly was designing there was a transformer man ^.^ which I mean yeah that is part of the reason AC Power is so much better than DC but....it is not Tesla's invention. His invention actually generates the AC power it doesn't just Amplify the voltage/current up or down. At the time when Tesla invented this and got the patent everyone wanted to harness the advantages of AC power but could not figure out how to operate a motor on AC....Tesla did. There were like I said electrical generators before this but they were all based of a DC Power system this was a Revolutionary invention truly. I mean we can live out in timbucktoo or BumFriggenEgypt and still have Eltricity.... we can be sitting a block a way from a Pyramid and have power for the transistors that run are lovely devices today 😛
And honestly Snoz almost picked The internet myself I honestly think it is an invention even if it cannot be attributed to anyone man or person it has literally connected the world and made it a lot closer. I just decided it's one weakness is it actually needs power to work in the first place. But I still think someone should use it I'm sure you could make a compelling argument that even if it did need power it has still done more to impact mankind even with the help of Electricity than the Electricity has done on it's own. And there is actually one other one that would be a very good
Posted by aquasnoz
Having studied electrical engineering I don't think I can doubt Tesla's genius but I do believe he further developed the idea of the AC current and its generation
If you're argument is based on the greatness of AC current I won't deny but I will actually challenge that invention! Is it really that or a facilitator for the public to acknowledge the potential of AC power?
"William Stanley, Jr. designed one of the first practical devices to transfer AC power efficiently between isolated circuits. Using pairs of coils wound on a common iron core, his design, called an induction coil, was an early transformer. The AC power system used today developed rapidly after 1886, and included contributions by Nikola Tesla (licensed to George Westinghouse) and Carl Wilhelm Siemens."
So this has already existed!
It's late and I'm sorta tired so I misread it earlier......
What William Stanly was designing there was a transformer man ^.^ which I mean yeah that is part of the reason AC Power is so much better than DC but....it is not Tesla's invention. His invention actually generates the AC power it doesn't just Amplify the voltage/current up or down. At the time when Tesla invented this and got the patent everyone wanted to harness the advantages of AC power but could not figure out how to operate a motor on AC....Tesla did. There were like I said electrical generators before this but they were all based of a DC Power system this was a Revolutionary invention truly. I mean we can live out in timbucktoo or BumFriggenEgypt and still have Eltricity.... we can be sitting a block a way from a Pyramid and have power for the transistors that run are lovely devices today 😛
And honestly Snoz almost picked The internet myself I honestly think it is an invention even if it cannot be attributed to anyone man or person it has literally connected the world and made it a lot closer. I just decided it's one weakness is it actually needs power to work in the first place. But I still think someone should use it I'm sure you could make a compelling argument that even if it did need power it has still done more to impact mankind even with the help of Electricity than the Electricity has done on it's own. And there is actually one other one that would be a very good
Posted by aquasnoz
For Robyn:
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Man I'm dissapointed I thought maybe you had a secret message written in hexadecimal but all this says in hexidecimal is
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Just skimming but I will be back to challenge.
On the topic of languages are you basing it on ALL existing forms of communication because it sounds like it. You gave an example of how english works but english isn't the first language and definitely isn't a great contributor in terms of languages. Chinese for example doesn't really have what you spoke of as an example.
Now if it's purely communication it might not touch base with the other mentioned inventions but however documenting it might. I mean you can't recite something and expect a lot of people to go by memory so is it better to say that computers or the internet made more of an impact and language was the contribution factor. before that paper and before that rocks but then it gets a bit iffy when you start counting pictorials as forms of languages.
Was it an invention or evolution of communication and then it's hard to apply as an invention.
On the topic of languages are you basing it on ALL existing forms of communication because it sounds like it. You gave an example of how english works but english isn't the first language and definitely isn't a great contributor in terms of languages. Chinese for example doesn't really have what you spoke of as an example.
Now if it's purely communication it might not touch base with the other mentioned inventions but however documenting it might. I mean you can't recite something and expect a lot of people to go by memory so is it better to say that computers or the internet made more of an impact and language was the contribution factor. before that paper and before that rocks but then it gets a bit iffy when you start counting pictorials as forms of languages.
Was it an invention or evolution of communication and then it's hard to apply as an invention.
Posted by MellyMel
"What single human invention has had the greatest impact on mankind?"
Language. Written, oral, signed, pictorial or programmed. Language is the building block for most other inventions, including several mentioned by other players already.
Yeah this is the other one along with the Internet that I think is going to be a juggernaut....
GOOD CHOICE MellyMel!
I still think think the electric generator no matter if its the DC dynamo or the AC induction generator is quite possibly the best or at least one of the top contenders for the crown! This invention has supplied Mankind the world around with ability to use their Language over the telephone to communicate faster and convienently. Definitely though the Internet, Language, and electrical generators particularly Teslas's AC induction generator facilitating the use of electrical power everywhere are quite arguably the top 3......at least in my opinion and I mulled over all three.
The only real argument I can give against language is even though it allows mankind to effectively communicate with one another.... Before there was the ability to communicate the world round being provided via electrical power no body anywhere spoke the same language! I mean the shear fact that a language half the time was only applicable to a small area alone made it way less efficient in the pursuit of knowledge, truth, and understanding. People in the past where spending to much time trying to decipher the language of their foreigners before they were ever able to gain any important knowledge that particular area had discovered. Even today until everyone starts to officially speak one unified language it will still hamper communication and the transfer of knowledge.
And Feb until you figure out a way to generate your own energy that will allow you to communicate through Internet that does not rely on the already constructed power grids out there in the world you will always rely on me..... The electrical generator!
😉
Posted by feb16aqua
Also, a generator is more of a means by which energy can flow, it doesn't actually create the energy itself. That being said, there are other ways to generate energy as well.
Notably, wind turbines, solar panels and hydropower.
You're not advocating electricity itself sooo
First off your right about too things Feb... One Im not advocating electricity itself because it is a naturally occurring phenomenon in are world that no body invented except for God I guess if you beleive in God haha......Second your also right electrical generators are not technically creating the energy itself no one can create or destroy energy. Energy cannot be created or destroyed it can only be changed from one form to another ....one state to another, first law of thermodynamics. BUT I never meant it could create energy itself only that it is pretty much the only way or at least the most efficient and reliable to transfer all other forms of energy into one of its most useful forms that the Internet rely's on, that being electrical energy.
Furthermore, the second law of thermodynamics states that "In all energy exchanges, if no energy enters or leaves the system, the potential energy of the current state will always be less than the initial state." This also commonly referred to as entropy. So, without the attempt to bring order to the energy conversion there will always be energy lost BUT this why Tesla's AC induction gneretor combined with step down or step up transformers.... They allow for almost no energy to be lost along along the conversion process.
And feb just so you know a wind turbine is a AC induction generator that is utilizing the kinetic energy of the particles in the wind to turn it's turbines and in turn induce electricity or electrical power...... Same goes for hydro power in that the kinetic flowing energy of the water is being used to turn the turbines of the AC induction generator.... otherwise known as hydro-electric power and not just 'hydro' power.
True, Hell I should have just said the electric generator in general w/e
It would have saved me some explanaing 🙂
It would have saved me some explanaing 🙂
Hell I don't see why I can't ain't nobody here made a claim to a specific invention that has specific patent attached to it.
Like Feb what type of Internet are we talking about cause it could be coaxial cable Internet, fiber optic, Internet via satellite, or DSL. Good lord don't tell me it's dial up ain't nobody got time for that! Ain't no body learning anything efficiently like that! And if it's not at least 52k I'd rather rather read a book..... Or shoot myself than waste my time with that lol.
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Like Feb what type of Internet are we talking about cause it could be coaxial cable Internet, fiber optic, Internet via satellite, or DSL. Good lord don't tell me it's dial up ain't nobody got time for that! Ain't no body learning anything efficiently like that! And if it's not at least 52k I'd rather rather read a book..... Or shoot myself than waste my time with that lol.
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Man Can't someone at least hide a message in their little binary posts haha
Posted by NotYourAverageAquarius
Man Can't someone at least hide a message in their little binary posts haha
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Haha man now I just need to figure out how to fly!
Posted by NotYourAverageAquarius
Haha man now I just need to figure out how to fly!
This should help!
Always wanted try that for the hell of it but I'm gonna have to google it chase I'm not really sure what the point is behind fishing in the middle of a low lying creek? I mean can't you just send out a cast from the side?
I always thought it rather silly, too, but a gent I know talked me into trying it and I will confess that it was rather enjoyable.
Feb your avi is ....distracting me
Posted by StoicGoat
I always thought it rather silly, too, but a gent I know talked me into trying it and I will confess that it was rather enjoyable.
This gent every tell you why you stand in the middle of the creek? Or is that supposed to the thrill top secret
Posted by feb16aqua
lol. let's focus here! I'm almost finished cleaning your house btw
Oh could you dress up like Ms.Devil over here while your at it?
Posted by NotYourAverageAquariusPosted by StoicGoat
I always thought it rather silly, too, but a gent I know talked me into trying it and I will confess that it was rather enjoyable.
This gent every tell you why you stand in the middle of the creek? Or is that supposed to the thrill top secret
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The above and a lot of my posts in this debate are why I never try to do this shit on my phone and Yeeeeeet I just keep doing it...... In fact I'm doing it right now.
Posted by NotYourAverageAquariusPosted by StoicGoat
I always thought it rather silly, too, but a gent I know talked me into trying it and I will confess that it was rather enjoyable.
This gent every tell you why you stand in the middle of the creek? Or is that supposed to the thrill top secretclick to expand
You know, that was never made entirely clear to me. I suppose it would make it much easier to cast your line farther upstream. I can't really think of any other good reason.
Hmmm First one's dress is better second one is like ...I think I would laugh at it too much xD
Avi has the best outfit though...oh yes thong hanging off dat hip....mhmm i'll take me some of that plz!
Avi has the best outfit though...oh yes thong hanging off dat hip....mhmm i'll take me some of that plz!
There does appear to be just a bit of air brushing going on in here...
Agriculture is a far more viable argument than concrete. (As I here utilise the term, I am including the raising of crops as well as all manner of cattle within the definition of agriculture.) Nowhere in the animal kingdom is agriculture practised - it is a purely human invention.
Without our invention and mastery of it, cities of any size would never have been possible, as we would have been forever limited to surviving as hunter-gatherers. As hunter-gatherers, the AC induction motor would be of extremely limited to no use, as would the transistor upon which it depends and binary code would be meaningless. A hunter-gatherer society would have no practical use for an automobile and, as result, would almost certainly therefor not have developed one.
It was the establishment of agriculture that facilitated the formulation of language, as individuals and groups who wished to cooperate needed a common means by which to communicate with one another whereby they might successfully engage in agriculture for the benefit of all parties involved.
All of the inventions just debunked could obviously have still come to fruition in the absence of agriculture. However, as agriculture definitely preceded all but one of them, and arguable all of them, it must be the single human invention that has had the greatest impact on mankind.
Just my $ 0.02. 😛
Without our invention and mastery of it, cities of any size would never have been possible, as we would have been forever limited to surviving as hunter-gatherers. As hunter-gatherers, the AC induction motor would be of extremely limited to no use, as would the transistor upon which it depends and binary code would be meaningless. A hunter-gatherer society would have no practical use for an automobile and, as result, would almost certainly therefor not have developed one.
It was the establishment of agriculture that facilitated the formulation of language, as individuals and groups who wished to cooperate needed a common means by which to communicate with one another whereby they might successfully engage in agriculture for the benefit of all parties involved.
All of the inventions just debunked could obviously have still come to fruition in the absence of agriculture. However, as agriculture definitely preceded all but one of them, and arguable all of them, it must be the single human invention that has had the greatest impact on mankind.
Just my $ 0.02. 😛
One of the benefits of a short debate is that it should prove easy to judge. I'll try to have the winner posted by 9PM EST technically tonight. If it's posted, the challenge will immediately follow.
Congratulations are in order for NotYourAverageAquarius for winning his second consecutive debate. Once again, you best demonstrated that your choice of invention had the greatest impact on mankind.
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0 - MellyMel
21 - NotYourAverageAquarius
9 - robyn808
0 - xdimplez
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Current point tally:
0 - aquasnoz
0 - feb16aqua
0 - MellyMel
21 - NotYourAverageAquarius
9 - robyn808
0 - xdimplez
Anyone around for the challenge?
I'm okay with right now because I'm never certain when I'll return 😛
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gah good challenge, I wish I could concentrate on this atm!
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