Faking a crime..

This topic was created in the Miscellaneous forum by _Dazed on Wednesday, February 20, 2019 and has 28 replies.
What should be the punishment for such a thing?

Faking a rape?

Faking a hate crime?

Should we allow street justice to do it's thing?

Should we wait to all the evidence to be presented in a Grand Jury?
This dude should lose his celebrity status and be forced to live in shame among the commoners.

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Let the DXP tribunals begin.
Posted by ItsSupes2

I’m calling it first......

Nothing whatsoever will happen to this guy
In your opinion..

What does this mean for future allegations of attacks against POC and LGBTQ?
Well, more than likely, if anything does happen to him in a legal sense, it will be a proverbial slap on the wrist.

Though not the same circumstances, but still a false accusation, that chick that accused those two football players of rape, only got a year for making it all up. Yet, the two men that she accused ended up getting kicked out of school, lost scholarships, and racked up huge debts.

Honestly, a year in prison, seems like light penance for making up false accusations, and I would say making false "hate crime" accusations, is just as bad. So, year, max? Unfortunately.

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Posted by ItsSupes2

I’m calling it first......

Nothing whatsoever will happen to this guy
In your opinion..

What does this mean for future allegations of attacks against POC and LGBTQ?
Nothing. Nothing changes
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So you would disagree that POC and LGBTQ making accusations of hate crimes would receive the Dr. Ford treatment?
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Posted by ItsSupes2

I’m calling it first......

Nothing whatsoever will happen to this guy
In your opinion..

What does this mean for future allegations of attacks against POC and LGBTQ?
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It means they'll probably get away with it. The same way people of non-color have, or used 2.
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Posted by ItsSupes2

I’m calling it first......

Nothing whatsoever will happen to this guy
In your opinion..

What does this mean for future allegations of attacks against POC and LGBTQ?
Nothing. Nothing changes
So you would disagree that POC and LGBTQ making accusations of hate crimes would receive the Dr. Ford treatment?
What has happened to Dr Ford?

She still has her job, house and she’s even richer than she was before. She made out pretty good, eh?
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Fair point. Bad example.

I refer you to Nukki's example.
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Posted by ItsSupes2

I’m calling it first......

Nothing whatsoever will happen to this guy
In your opinion..

What does this mean for future allegations of attacks against POC and LGBTQ?
Nothing. Nothing changes
So you would disagree that POC and LGBTQ making accusations of hate crimes would receive the Dr. Ford treatment?
What has happened to Dr Ford?

She still has her job, house and she’s even richer than she was before. She made out pretty good, eh?
Fair point. Bad example.

I refer you to Nukki's example.
That wasn’t even comparable.
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Falsely accused two men of rape.

Ford "falsely" accused Kavenugh of sexual assault/rape
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Posted by _Dazed

Posted by ItsSupes2

I’m calling it first......

Nothing whatsoever will happen to this guy
In your opinion..

What does this mean for future allegations of attacks against POC and LGBTQ?
Nothing. Nothing changes
So you would disagree that POC and LGBTQ making accusations of hate crimes would receive the Dr. Ford treatment?
What has happened to Dr Ford?

She still has her job, house and she’s even richer than she was before. She made out pretty good, eh?
Fair point. Bad example.

I refer you to Nukki's example.
That wasn’t even comparable.
Falsely accused two men of rape.

Ford "falsely" accused Kavenugh of sexual assault/rape
They weren’t minority LGBTQ either
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It doesn't matter.

I'm asking that if going forward, will the public lean towards doubting accusations of this sort.

*not sure if I'm making sense*
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Posted by _Dazed

Posted by ItsSupes2

Posted by _Dazed

Posted by ItsSupes2

Posted by _Dazed

Posted by ItsSupes2

I’m calling it first......

Nothing whatsoever will happen to this guy
In your opinion..

What does this mean for future allegations of attacks against POC and LGBTQ?
Nothing. Nothing changes
So you would disagree that POC and LGBTQ making accusations of hate crimes would receive the Dr. Ford treatment?
What has happened to Dr Ford?

She still has her job, house and she’s even richer than she was before. She made out pretty good, eh?
Fair point. Bad example.

I refer you to Nukki's example.
That wasn’t even comparable.
Falsely accused two men of rape.

Ford "falsely" accused Kavenugh of sexual assault/rape
They weren’t minority LGBTQ either
It doesn't matter.

I'm asking that if going forward, will the public lean towards doubting accusations of this sort.

*not sure if I'm making sense*
I’ve already answered that question and you wanted validation via comparison
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I'm asking why you don't think they are comparable?
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Posted by ItsSupes2

Posted by _Dazed

Posted by ItsSupes2

Posted by _Dazed

Posted by ItsSupes2

I’m calling it first......

Nothing whatsoever will happen to this guy
In your opinion..

What does this mean for future allegations of attacks against POC and LGBTQ?
Nothing. Nothing changes
So you would disagree that POC and LGBTQ making accusations of hate crimes would receive the Dr. Ford treatment?
What has happened to Dr Ford?

She still has her job, house and she’s even richer than she was before. She made out pretty good, eh?
Fair point. Bad example.

I refer you to Nukki's example.
That wasn’t even comparable.
Falsely accused two men of rape.

Ford "falsely" accused Kavenugh of sexual assault/rape
They weren’t minority LGBTQ either
It doesn't matter.

I'm asking that if going forward, will the public lean towards doubting accusations of this sort.

*not sure if I'm making sense*
I’ve already answered that question and you wanted validation via comparison
I'm asking why you don't think they are comparable?
I answered that question as well.

The “new” Dazed didn’t last very long btw
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So they are not comparable because one case is white people, and the others are minority or LGBTQ?
@ItsSupes2

I'm simply asking for clarification to better understand your opinion. Is there something wrong with that?
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Posted by Black-Mamba

I think he should get an Oscar

Seriously he's given America what its addicted too

Drama


😂😂 I think dazed should get a dxp hammie too for best actor in an online forum series. He is legit playing the part of the reformed social justice warrior well.
Posted by LadyNeptune

Still waiting on receipts

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Posted by aPiscesPrincess2

Posted by PurplePassion38

Posted by Black-Mamba

I think he should get an Oscar

Seriously he's given America what its addicted too

Drama


😂😂 I think dazed should get a dxp hammie too for best actor in an online forum series. He is legit playing the part of the reformed social justice warrior well.
I know, I felt really bad for Pontus lol.

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Why did you feel bad for him?
Posted by PurplePassion38

Posted by aPiscesPrincess2

Posted by PurplePassion38

Posted by Black-Mamba

I think he should get an Oscar

Seriously he's given America what its addicted too

Drama


😂😂 I think dazed should get a dxp hammie too for best actor in an online forum series. He is legit playing the part of the reformed social justice warrior well.
I know, I felt really bad for Pontus lol.


There never was a Pontus. Plus, I find Pontus less amusing than this new and improved dazed. Completely absolving himself of what he did in the past, and throwing the people he did it with under the bus. He's a funny guy. 😂😂
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Need those receipts miss..
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Posted by PurplePassion38

Posted by aPiscesPrincess2

Posted by PurplePassion38

Posted by Black-Mamba

I think he should get an Oscar

Seriously he's given America what its addicted too

Drama


😂😂 I think dazed should get a dxp hammie too for best actor in an online forum series. He is legit playing the part of the reformed social justice warrior well.
I know, I felt really bad for Pontus lol.


There never was a Pontus. Plus, I find Pontus less amusing than this new and improved dazed. Completely absolving himself of what he did in the past, and throwing the people he did it with under the bus. He's a funny guy. 😂😂
I know, Pontus was fake (I didn't know at the time though) lol. I don't know what Dazed did though.

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Nobody does because she won't say.
Posted by PurplePassion38

Posted by _Dazed

Posted by PurplePassion38

Posted by aPiscesPrincess2

Posted by PurplePassion38

Posted by Black-Mamba

I think he should get an Oscar

Seriously he's given America what its addicted too

Drama


😂😂 I think dazed should get a dxp hammie too for best actor in an online forum series. He is legit playing the part of the reformed social justice warrior well.
I know, I felt really bad for Pontus lol.


There never was a Pontus. Plus, I find Pontus less amusing than this new and improved dazed. Completely absolving himself of what he did in the past, and throwing the people he did it with under the bus. He's a funny guy. 😂😂
Need those receipts miss..


You mean the receipts from when you tagged supes to have him back you up that you were never an ass to him. And then how he disagreed that you were always just as much of an ass to him. Is that what you're asking me provide? I can of you want me to, but it seems unnecessary since you quoted him.
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He said nothing other than I called him ignorant... which I've never denied.
Posted by _Dazed

What should be the punishment for such a thing?

I'm curious as to your answer.

But before you answer, consider this:

Let's say that street camera that Jussie seemed to keep relying on was pointed in the "right" direction to capture the alleged assault.

Then the video, much like the initial Covington edited video, was played over and over again through the typical media outlets.

Then the subsequent obligatory outrage (or as Orwell put it, "Two Minutes Hate*), then the rent-a-mobs, and the subsequent damage, looting, and possible harm and even death from the ginned up violence.

Does it look like just a harmless prank or an exercise in "raising awareness"?
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Posted by _Dazed

What should be the punishment for such a thing?

I'm curious as to your answer.

But before you answer, consider this:

Let's say that street camera that Jussie seemed to keep relying on was pointed in the "right" direction to capture the alleged assault.

Then the video, much like the initial Covington edited video, was played over and over again through the typical media outlets.

Then the subsequent obligatory outrage (or as Orwell put it, "Two Minutes Hate*), then the rent-a-mobs, and the subsequent damage, looting, and possible harm and even death from the ginned up violence.

Does it look like just a harmless prank or an exercise in "raising awareness"?
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I think it would depend on the intent.

If Jussie is proven guilty of fabricating a hate crime, not only did he do so.. but he also used his status and public image to accomplish this on a grand scale. And for what? I can only assume that is was some sort of personal gain. Although highly irresponsible and sets a horrible precedent for future hate crime accusations, it does not directly impact anyone's life accept his own.

Felony conviction with six to eighteen months in a minimum security state prison.

Here is where I make a difference..

False accusations of rape, assault, hate crimes, etc with the intent to damage a specific person/s life, societal standing, or reputation (if proven without a doubt).. should be met with a much more harsh sentence.

Two to five years in a medium security state prison along with fines/damages to the falsely accused.
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Posted by CancerOnTheCusp

Posted by _Dazed

What should be the punishment for such a thing?

I'm curious as to your answer.

But before you answer, consider this:

Let's say that street camera that Jussie seemed to keep relying on was pointed in the "right" direction to capture the alleged assault.

Then the video, much like the initial Covington edited video, was played over and over again through the typical media outlets.

Then the subsequent obligatory outrage (or as Orwell put it, "Two Minutes Hate*), then the rent-a-mobs, and the subsequent damage, looting, and possible harm and even death from the ginned up violence.

Does it look like just a harmless prank or an exercise in "raising awareness"?
I think it would depend on the intent.

If Jussie is proven guilty of fabricating a hate crime, not only did he do so.. but he also used his status and public image to accomplish this on a grand scale. And for what? I can only assume that is was some sort of personal gain. Although highly irresponsible and sets a horrible precedent for future hate crime accusations, it does not directly impact anyone's life accept his own.

Felony conviction with six to eighteen months in a minimum security state prison.

Here is where I make a difference..

False accusations of rape, assault, hate crimes, etc with the intent to damage a specific person/s life, societal standing, or reputation (if proven without a doubt).. should be met with a much more harsh sentence.

Two to five years in a medium security state prison along with fines/damages to the falsely accused.
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I generally agree. But I bolded a couple of parts.

The first bolded part I disagree. Any public disturbance resulting from his action does cause harm, more than likely to innocent parties.

Further, and linking to the second bolded part, his actions, if proven, cause damage to the groups he claims to represent (diminishing actual crimes).

On a broader scale (taking into context his statements from interviews prior to lawyering up), it paints a broad brush on a segment of people where traits are attributed but may or may not exist.

It may accomplish some sort of short term political objective, but it generates implications that aren't immediately apparent but will manifest.

Anecdotally, Al Sharpton (who apparently still has an instinct about these things) has been one of the first visible figures to back away from this Smollett case.
I feel they should face the exact same charges and life changing reputation that someone who did the crimes would face.

I would be just as concerned about someone fucked up enough to fake a crime as I would with someone who actually did a crime. Both are equally fucked up imo.
Not too many opinions on this I suppose.
The irony of all this..

If he's convicted and serves time in prison, He's likely to be a victim of a hate crime while incarcerated.

And not because he is black. But because he is gay..

Posted by _Dazed

The irony of all this..

If he's convicted and serves time in prison, He's likely to be a victim of a hate crime while incarcerated.

And not because he is black. But because he is gay..

@nikkistar
Posted by TheRabbit

But is faking an orgasm a crime?

Or is it self defense?
GTFO