GUILTY based on an assumption/silhouette

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This is the second most recent case of where someone's career, reputation and livelihood get's destroyed based SOLEY on assumptions. The "thought police" is the new way of destroying innocent people's lives. Meaning if you do something that "resembles" the assumption or think something that "resembles" the assumption, YOU ARE GUILTY. This shit must be stopped in it's tracks. The "thought police". A couple of months ago it was the "cannibal cop" who because he was into some seriously dark fantasy, NEVER carried it out but because he thought it, joined an online dark fantasy group and shared stories, was not only fired, but tried and found GUILTY. He has filed an appeal and WILL win that, and get out of prison, but his life has been destroyed.

This latest one is WORSE. I personally know a few Firearms Instructors. They are typically police officers who have risen in rank, and fully train new cadets, re-qualify yearly fellow police officers, and various departments of police departments, as well as civilians. This guy on the force for 25 years just lost his career and reputation (fired immediately) due to bringing one of his various targets to a shooting range. One of the many targets he brought to the range for training was an outlined silhouette of a hooded character for a "no shoot drill training aid". A fellow officer took a picture of the silhouette because his son wears a hood and made a comment that HE (not the firearms instructor) who nicknamed his son "Trayvon". With that, and due to political work agenda's the firearm instructor got fired because it immediately escalated that these targets were referenced to the Trayvon Martin case. BULLSHIT. This firearm instructor is a fighter and WILL win this case. The mere fact that it got to this point resutling in his job, reptuation and personal life is completely wrong. If it's such an insult, go after the company that made these targets for police training. Fucking ridiculous!!
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Posted by DonJohnson
Amanda Knox is guilty as hell. She has cancer sun. saggitarius moon. Same sun and moon combo as Mike Tyson and Michael Vick btw. 2 of the most explosive athletes and ruthless criminals. Tyson went to juvenle some 50+ times and used to admit even during his professional career, he would dress up as a hobo and rob people just to do it. His ferocious in ring antics are matched in the bedroom when he raped Desiree Washington with her panties on. The lacerations around the vagina caused by the torn panties was the nail in the coffin. Michael Vick used to dog fight and kill dogs by swinging them onto the floor. He didn't shoot the dogs, he bashed their skulls in.

Get this though, Amanda Knox is more explosive than either of them. Astrologically. Her mars is in Leo in a fucking T-square with Jupiter and Pluto opposing one another.

The girl she kiled is Cap sun, which is the opposite sign of Cancer sun. She hated that bitch.

She may be a pretty girl but underneath she's all explosive killer.



Jodi Arias Cancer sun, Gemini Moon, Gemini Venus, merc in Cancer, Mars in Virgo. Brutally murdered her boyfriend. In fact at summation of the trial the prosecutors should lay a dummy out on a table in front of the jury, stab it 29 TIMES and end with the slit on throat from ear to ear. No speech..just doing that will bring the "guilty" verdict. Crazy bitches. (Her boyfriend had Leo sun, Cap moon, Gemini in Venus Gemini in Mars & merc in Virgo) Astro doesn't matter at all, clearly she was a ticking time bomb. (really, smack the table in front of you 29 times..minus the artery sprays, you'll get the point)
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Astro doesn't matter at all, clearly she was a ticking time bomb.



bullshit, I beg to differ.

In fact, your astro profile is a perfect example of someone who makes assumptions based on perception and "feelings".

The very same thing you are bitching about in this thread is eerily similar to what you've done on this site to me.

The hypocrisy is entertaining, to say the least.....so, with that said, by all means....carry on. 😄
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Now ^^this chick..her own two kids are terrified of her. She stalks, she lies, and is the poster child for Malignant Narcissist. If you ignore, they come out with 4 lines like this with clear envy of ones astro profile. How fucked up is that?
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they come out with 4 lines like this with clear envy of ones astro profile.



Notwithstanding your "assumptions", and your irrational hatred of elle, why would anyone envy this?

http://www.dxpnet.com/users/profile.asp?username=LetltB<BR>
- Scorpio Sun
- Five planets in Scorpio
- along with five planets in the 8th house.
- Pisces Moon
- Pisces Rising


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I dunno either Seraph. It's an astro chart. Pretty lame isn't it?
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Posted by Sutekh
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this bald headed fat pig prik is lying out his a $ $


wonder how long it took for him to make up this story.




What is he lying about? Explain.



Where do I start... The targets being used to show who not to shoot LOL

That one sticks out the most. Targets had TARGETS on em nuff said.
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This one YOU DO SHOOT in a drill:



So what is your point?


and this one you DO NOT:

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And it's people like you "the thought police" who are putting innocent people behind bars. smh

His statement, the documents he held up by those involved, and the mere fact that both he and the family of that boy are being victimized and exploited because of people like you elle is the reason why shit gets fucked up.

The NO SHOOT DRILLs and targets are obvious!! It's to train officers WHO NOT TO SHOOT. Get that? Or are you so hung up on your background to not care?
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Posted by ellessque
furthermore, why would you even purchase those?

...and where would you have to go to get them?

probably the internet....more than likely a racist piece of shit hate site.



don't tell me he bought them so the officers could decipher on what to shoot and what NOT TO.

smfh.




lol...are you serious? These targets are bought and paid for by YOU the tax payer from facilities that make these specific targets for police agencies. Look very closely at the pictures elle, ok? You ready. Tell us what you observe:








Would you shoot this person elle?
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Posted by ellessque
I would like to see the signed purchase order for the purchase of these....issued by the city in question.

THAT will never happen....because they DO NOT EXIST.





Love when you fuck up and then try to back track. State tax payer money and what is bought for police facilities is public record elle. These targets are SPECIFIC for "Active Response Training" for police and swat teams. This so that THEY DO NOT SHOOT INNOCENT bystanders. May I suggest "reactive response training" to you? lol
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Posted by ellessque
you are clearly an ignorant fuck.

trust me, if I found out my local police force had purchased those for target training WITH MY TAX DOLLARS, my ass would be posted at the mayors office....and I wouldn't be alone.....and I wouldn't stop there, either.

for you to justify this by twisting it to make it look like an "acceptable" target for someone to "not" shoot is quite sad.

you are going to put a dead child's silhouette on a target?

these targets were not issued by the department, he pulled them out of his car, ffs. They were his PERSONAL property.

Yes, the truth will come out.

Every time someone stands up to blatant injustice and ignorance....it is often times swept under the carpet by dumbfucks like you that call it "a political agenda"......or even more ignorant......you blow it off because "of my background".

you truly are a lost cause.




Thank you! Thank you! Thank you!...when I get cramps in my dimples from laughing, it's a GOOD thing. To see you write something that has swoooshed completely over your head is priceless. ROFL
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Posted by ellessque
....and for clarification.

please post the public record specifically for THAT target sheet.

or any links of agencies that have purchased THOSE target sheets.

looks like a very large civil case in the making.




elle...I don't live in Indiana, and I'm not paying taxes there. Since you are challenging this, may I suggest you get off your fat ass and do your own research?
Don't be embarrassed at what you find though. But please do share it with us, and your picture with the mayor roflmao
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Posted by Sutekh
I get what the OP is saying by thought police. But there is a pattern and history of police racism and targeting minorities specifically. The burden of proof is on the cop to prove those aren't targets. He provided a weak a $ $ explanation.





The entire point of this case is of this guy 25 year police officer and firearms instructor being fired, is for one very reason...an asshole he works with that calls his son by the nickname mentioned, took a picture of the target with his phone and got into the hands of someone who has a vendetta against the Firearms instructor. That is simply it. The ONLY one screaming racism is the guy who wants the firearms instructor fired. Instead, he should be going after the asshole that took a picture of the target and sent it out to his son. Where elle, and you are going is so far off base it's ridiculous! I'm having a blast with elle, though, this one will be forever bumped. lol
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Posted by seraph
LIB, elle "came in swinging" because she feels strongly about something. Just like you felt strongly about posting a massive wall of text about this, with a video even included. Be fair.




Oh seraph kindly remove your nose from my ass and mind your own business please. Thanks. It's quite clear where the nut job came in and always does, but this time truly fucked up.
roflmao...my dimples are just about froze! lol
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I was with a police Firearms instructor for years. He orders the ammo, guns, he orders the targets, the haystacks, the dividers for rooms for active shooter training, the NO SHOOT POSTERS of INNOCENT BYSTANDERS, once a month that MUST get approved by the state of NY in Albany, they are partially funded, the rest the tax payers are responsible for county services. I do know what I'm talking about. This Firearms instructor is being set up by someone inside which has NOTHING TO DO with the innocent bystander target (hoodie guy)...it has to do with someone else taking a picture of the target and sending it on a cell phone. lol..
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Posted by Sutekh I get what the OP is saying by thought police- . But there is a pattern and history of police racism and targeting minorities specifically. The burden of proof is on the cop to prove those aren't targets. He provided a weak a $ $ explanation.



I would totally agree with you IF the man was on "company time"-- from what I can see (and I may be wrong), though, he wasn't.

He was hanging out at a shooting range, right?

I don't think ANYONE should be penalized on the job for what they do on their own time.

That IS a perfect example of the government attempting to control our thoughts, and the Court of Public Opinion trying people in the media.

They are some seriously racist people in the world, of all colors-- but how we *feel* about others isn't something to be regulated by anyone but ourselves.

No offense intended here, btw. 😉



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Posted by seraph
I don't see how she fucked up.

I wouldn't mind an explanation as to how "no shoot" targets have targets on them.

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Are you serious? Ask yourself that again if you were training someone Seraph. The images during a "response training" pop up out of nowhere in staged abandoned buildings owned by the police facilities. (just as fire company's have them for fire training) They test the ability of each cop mainly for EYESIGHT. They MUST observe in a split second who holds the threat. The HANDS are what holds the threat in most cases. The target is there to qualify or DISQUALIFY a police officer into further training. The pictures remain identical other than what is in the person's hand that may or may not be a threat again to train the eye for the threat/weapon. If all of the innocent bystander targets didn't have targets, and the other target who has a weapon does, they are going to pass with flying colors each time. The target is there to KILL and stop the active shooter and where the vital points are and to be able to determine who IS NOT the threat. They are usually given three times to qualify through 3 different scenarios. If after the third try they do not get all correct targets, they are put back into firearms training and retested.

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Posted by seraph
Additionally, I wouldn't mind someone accounting for the following:

http://newsfeed.time.com/2012/05/14/man-sells-out-of-trayvon-martin-gun-range-targets/#ixzz2QXEWR5aM




The chief who called the media is the one who wants the firearms instructor fired due to inner personality conflicts. HE NAMED it trayvon martin.

Wow...this poor guy, now I know why he made the video. He's been villified by a silouhette and a vendetta by a coworker. The media got the sheep to see it as a case of racism. Fucking classic shit right there. Funy thing, Trayvon's picture isn't in the silohette, so it really does go to show how shallow and low people will go to assume. lol
My work is done here. I can't be around ignorant assholes any longer. I'll only respond to those who get it.
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the two rather ugly women you utilized as an example didn't have targets on them.

read the article, LIB....these targets were sold as NOVELTY ITEMS by sick fucks on the internet almost IMMEDIATELY after the case made it way to the public......I would bet my mortgage that NO reputable police department in the US paid for them with a OFFICIAL purchase order.

the guy got caught...plain and simple.

he just figured....since the other guys LOOKED like him...he COULD get away with it.

like I said, thank the caramel apple gods SOMEONE had a fucking conscious.

....and for you to think that this is okay, is VERY telling.




No shit sherlock. The ugly women, small kids, pregnant women, hoodies, bad guys, bad girls are SOLELY for EYESIGHT and defining the threat elle. The black silouhette targets are the more difficult because the images (as with the hoodie guy and cell phone) are much harder to see. Some targets are moving targets within staged buildings, some are on walls in a room, and some are at target ranges where they PREP you for the active shooter training in the buildings.

You truly are a weak individual elle, to go out of your way to fuck up completely about what the thread is about, not knowing what police training and targets are and then to twist it to mend that fuck up. Classic bumperooski thread, I will enjoy fondly. Carry on, though. (aren't you pmsing too early this month? It usually doesn't start until around the 20th/21st. Makes a note...
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Posted by seraph
http://newsfeed.time.com/2012/05/14/man-sells-out-of-trayvon-martin-gun-range-targets/#ixzz2QXEWR5aM<BR>
The description of the product says:

"Everyone knows the story of Zimmerman and Martin. Obviously we support Zimmerman and believe he is innocent and that he shot a thug. Each target is printed on thick, high quality poster paper with matte finish! The dimensions are 12??x18?? (The same as the Darkotic Zombie Targets) This is a Ten Pack of Targets."




You stupid asshole THIS TRAINING IS SPECIFICALLY TO TRAIN OFFICERS/CIVILIANS NOT TO BE ANOTHER ZIMMERMAN! what you got there is a tornado that started with the police chief's spin to the media.
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Ask yourselves this, these targets are standard in police depts. nationwide. Why would someone suddenly put this deceased boys name on it? If they photoshopped his face in, I'd question it. But really get your heads out of your asses and reasonably ask that question. That's gonna be a while, I can see. I have important things to address.

Elle..I hope your feeling better soon.😉
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Posted by ellessque
you track my period?

that's creepy.

apparently, I'm not the only one who thought it was racist as fuck, that's why the guy got FIRED.




Oh YUCK NO!! your son shared that with us. As a result, I looked up all your nasty outbursts via your threads, and no shit..all stem from the 20th forward for a good 10 days. It's quite entertaining to see. Your behavior today is consistent. So please do feel better. Lack of vitamins could be the cause.

Regardless of ~some~ thinking this was racist. Your gonna feel pretty small when the truth comes out about a
(roflmao) standard police target silouette made out to be an OMG RACIST THREAT and following the media like sheep.
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http://newsfeed.time.com/2012/05/14/man-sells-out-of-trayvon-martin-gun-range-targets/#ixzz2QXEWR5aM<BR>
The description of the product says:

"Everyone knows the story of Zimmerman and Martin. Obviously we support Zimmerman and believe he is innocent and that he shot a thug. Each target is printed on thick, high quality poster paper with matte finish! The dimensions are 12??x18?? (The same as the Darkotic Zombie Targets) This is a Ten Pack of Targets."





Great a racist blog and someone who can photo shop, to perpetuate racism.
As long as we understand one another THE PHOTO BELOW is what was used for the original post and used nationwide by police departments. Have you seen the pregnant lady targets? Please don't go too low Seraph to support your ignorance:
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What part of this do you not understand THESE ARE NO SHOOT TARGETS for civilians and Police departments? Where is Trayvon's face in the silouhette? They have little girls in pony tails as well that could run through a shooting scene that must be identified as a no shoot...AND they have small boys pointing a gun that they MUST shoot. I don't get the issue here at all. IT'S PREVENTION of something like this happening again. smh The firearms instructor will get his job back and not before the chief that instigated this is fired. Otherwise he is entitled to sue the pants off the county/state. He was doing his JOB.
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Posted by ellessque

it is rather creepy you'd be so inclined to follow my menstrual cycle via my posts.

weirdo.




Elle, Your own son shared the "monthly" information, and challenged us to look up your behavior the 3rd week of each month. YOUR OWN SON ELLE!! So please, take it up with him. Oh wait, that's right, you can't...after your last mental breakdown, both kids and the infant left dodge and said fuck you.
Good for them. 😢


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Posted by seraph
LIB, your thread backfired harder than a '69 Chevelle, and now you're reaching for anything personal (which in this particular case isn't true) with which to bludgeon others.

Just stop.




I still stand from where I was when I posted this. Nothing backfired but the Serelle wannabe bully team whose heads are up their asses and speak from the ass. Same shit, different day. Elle, made this personal from her first post and throughout. You wanna dish it? Your gonna eat it. Deal with it.
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Posted by ellessque
if you take on a public service position, of which is assigned to protect everyone.....what you do on your own time is very much my business.

a racist has no place on a police force....go be a fucking accountant or something!




If you look about 5 posts before yours, you'll see where I made a clarification.


Posted by Montgomery
** "I don't think ANYONE should be penalized on the job for what they do on their own time."


I should clarify that I mean "opinions expressed."

Obviously, authentic criminal behavior could be a factor-- if this is indeed a target (notice, it does have a bullseye), it's in incredibly poor taste.
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And I'm still going to disagree on the point that regardless of whether or not this man is guilty, he is still being tried via the media before the facts have been established.

The government is currently trying to pass even stricter gun laws, and what we have here is the perfect spin, with the added benefit of little to no concrete facts to get in the way.

For those who think total disarmament of US citizens is a good idea, (mis)using this story to their advantage may seem justified.

But the ends do not justify the means, here, and if they did it to him-- they will do it to you, as well.

Something to keep in mind.