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14,000 people have been killed in Gaza in the last 6 weeks. 70% of those people have been women children and elderly. Every 10 mins a child dies in Gaza.

Since 2019 the United States has sent Israel 10.5 million tax dollars A DAY, and is scheduled to do so till 2028. Thanks Obama!

Last year Israel donated 13 million dollars through AIPAC to American politicians, and these people are doing nothing to stop Israel's war crime. Here is the list https://www.opensecrets.org/industries/summary.php?ind=q05&cycle=All&recipdetail=S&mem=Y

7,200 Palestinian hostages are being held by Israel, among them 88 women and 250 children. At least 4 out of 10 Palestinian men are said to spend time in an Israeli prison, but by Israels own reports

Hamas makes up less than 1.5% of the population in Gaza. 7% of the Israel Population is in the IDF. That’s 185 IDF Solders for every 1 Hamas Fighter.

Between the years 2008 to 2020 Israel killed 23 people for every 1 Israeli killed. To keep up with that rate they would need 13,000 more people, to avenge the October 7th attack.

1.7 million people in Gaza have been displaced from their home, which is 75% of the total population. Israel has cut off food water and aid to everyone. There are area's where 600 people have 1 toilet to share.

Israel has struck at least 12,000 targets, targeting schools, hospitals, reporters. There are 35 Hospitals in Gaza, 21 of them haven bee left inoperable.
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Posted by cersei
I’m not an expert about everything going on. I keep hearing different things from different ppl at this point and everyone is picking one over the other. All I know is that it is disturbing and sad and should stop. It upsets me that America buts into other countries affairs all the time but what use their power to help this situation. I’m not sure what I can do to help so hearing about stuff like this when you can’t do anything about it is upsetting. I feel like a lot of ppl are pressuring ppl to post about it and stuff, but why would ppl want to be constantly reminded of all the ppl fighting for their life with nothing they can do?

I think talking about it and posting about it has power. I understand that it may seem complicated and people are on different sides, but I would encourage people to educate themselves, it’s very easy to access online. And honestly not complicated at all imo.

I don’t want to pressure anyone to post about it, and its not my intention to try to force someones opinion. But I felt compelled to post these facts that I researched, on my Facebook, because I realized how many to my friends and family don't know.

I hear them say things like well they've been fighting back and forworth for a long time. Who knows who is right. But again when you look into the history again its my opinion its not complicated.

Americans should be constantly reminded of what their goverment is doing, because Americans are the only people who can change that.



Those people in Gaza aren't fighting for their lives. Can you fight a bomb with a rock? These people are just waiting to die.

America is butting into this with 38 billion dollar. We are funding all of this, we given or sold Israel all the weapons the 12,000 strikes in the last 6 weeks came from America.





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The US has sent Israel thousands of munitions.

They are launching hellfire missiles (designed to take out tanks) into refugee camps (people living in tents).

One of the many, many atrocities they do.

You're either against the genocide of the Palestinians or for it.

There is no middle ground.


I'm not for that, but I am curious what the other hand is? Like what do you think should be done?

As much as it sounds like I picking sides, I feel the weaker side should surrender, and try to save their people in any way possible. That is a hot take people will absolutely hate, but it's true. The weak side that can't stand up for themselves and will lose 100% should simply surrender in attempt salvage innocent lives. To keep it going and forcing people to die is pretty sad tbh. Unless you think the whole world should get involved at large. Which in that case, amplify the innocent death toll to unfathomable numbers.

Also I'll make a little edit to make it known I'm not saying Palestine is weak because I hate Muslim, or worship Israel because I think they are powerful. I despise this situation. What I'm saying is the evidence is on the table and clear. The US and Isreal clearly aren't going to stop. So what is the best solution? If you can find one that doesn't bring the innocent death toll to record numbers I'll actually be surprised.
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So Israel should just stop and let Hamas keep attacking them?

Hamas's entire existence being based on eradicating Jews from the river to the sea. 1% of fighters maybe, but most of Palestine support them. Islamic extremism is fucking poison to the world, including Islam. They support Sharia law, fuck anyone who supports Sharia law.

I have changed my stance on all this.
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The US has sent Israel thousands of munitions.

They are launching hellfire missiles (designed to take out tanks) into refugee camps (people living in tents).

One of the many, many atrocities they do.

You're either against the genocide of the Palestinians or for it.

There is no middle ground.



I'm not for that, but I am curious what the other hand is? Like what do you think should be done?



As much as it sounds like I picking sides, I feel the weaker side should surrender, and try to save their people in any way possible. That is a hot take people will absolutely hate, but it's true. The weak side that can't stand up for themselves and will lose 100% should simply surrender in attempt salvage innocent lives. To keep it going and forcing people to die is pretty sad tbh. Unless you think the whole world should get involved at large. Which in that case, amplify the innocent death toll to unfathomable numbers.



Also I'll make a little edit to make it known I'm not saying Palestine is weak because I hate Muslim, or worship Israel because I think they are powerful. I despise this situation. What I'm saying is the evidence is on the table and clear. The US and Isreal clearly aren't going to stop. So what is the best solution? If you can find one that doesn't bring the innocent death toll to record numbers I'll actually be surprised.



You are taking the position that Israel is being fair and would treat surrender fairly.

The same Israel that is bombing, schools, hospitals, mosques, churches, refugee camps, bakeries and anything else.

They are not. They are an oppressive force that has broken hundreds of international laws.

Israel are the land invaders, the illegal occupiers.

Like I said, you're either for the genocide of Palestians or you aren't.

Israel have "arrested" thousands of Palestinians. They are held in military courts without trials and kept in prisons for years. Many are children who are taken. These men, women and children and then beaten and sodomized by Israeli guards.

This has been happening since before Oct 7th.

So no. Palestinians peacefully surrendering their land and homes will not end their suffering at the hands of Israelis.

You are extraordinarily ignorant of the real situation at hand but then try to play it off like there's an achievable middle ground.

This does not exist. You either want Palestinian genocide or you stand against it.
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No, I want you to tell me the other hand of the situation. A situation with no innocent death that can exist within reality. That is your main argument right? The death of innocent people? Because we can all agree if Palestine was given the exact same power Isreal has, the tables would turn, and because of that the statistics of innocent death would continue to rise. So what is the solution?
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So Israel should just stop and let Hamas keep attacking them?



A few of the insane conditions Israel have forced on Palestinians.

1. Palestinians cannot store rainwater. Israel has declared this illegal and any water tanks set up this way are destroyed.

2. Palestinians in Gaza are forbidden from fishing.

3. Palestinians cannot own their own cows. All milk and dairy MUST be purchased from Israeli companies.

Just 3 totally insane laws that Palestinians have no choice but to abide by or be thrown into jail.

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Sounds like how they treat their women yeah?

Yes the Israelis should treat them better, as you've seen from my posts when I started. But man make no mistake that Hamas will just grow and try to eradicate Israelis. They do no want peace they want complete destruction. You're not dealing with nice people here who will concede and come to an agreement, you're dealing with people who camp under schools and hospitals and lock civilians inside them. You're dealing with people who want women to dress in a black robe for fuck sake.
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The US has sent Israel thousands of munitions.

They are launching hellfire missiles (designed to take out tanks) into refugee camps (people living in tents).

One of the many, many atrocities they do.

You're either against the genocide of the Palestinians or for it.

There is no middle ground.







I'm not for that, but I am curious what the other hand is? Like what do you think should be done?







As much as it sounds like I picking sides, I feel the weaker side should surrender, and try to save their people in any way possible. That is a hot take people will absolutely hate, but it's true. The weak side that can't stand up for themselves and will lose 100% should simply surrender in attempt salvage innocent lives. To keep it going and forcing people to die is pretty sad tbh. Unless you think the whole world should get involved at large. Which in that case, amplify the innocent death toll to unfathomable numbers.







Also I'll make a little edit to make it known I'm not saying Palestine is weak because I hate Muslim, or worship Israel because I think they are powerful. I despise this situation. What I'm saying is the evidence is on the table and clear. The US and Isreal clearly aren't going to stop. So what is the best solution? If you can find one that doesn't bring the innocent death toll to record numbers I'll actually be surprised.





You are taking the position that Israel is being fair and would treat surrender fairly.





The same Israel that is bombing, schools, hospitals, mosques, churches, refugee camps, bakeries and anything else.





They are not. They are an oppressive force that has broken hundreds of international laws.





Israel are the land invaders, the illegal occupiers.





Like I said, you're either for the genocide of Palestians or you aren't.





Israel have "arrested" thousands of Palestinians. They are held in military courts without trials and kept in prisons for years. Many are children who are taken. These men, women and children and then beaten and sodomized by Israeli guards.





This has been happening since before Oct 7th.





So no. Palestinians peacefully surrendering their land and homes will not end their suffering at the hands of Israelis.





You are extraordinarily ignorant of the real situation at hand but then try to play it off like there's an achievable middle ground.





This does not exist. You either want Palestinian genocide or you stand against it.



No, I want you to tell me the other hand of the situation. A situation with no innocent death that can exist within reality. That is your main argument right? The death of innocent people? Because we can all agree if Palestine was given the exact same power Isreal has, the tables would turn, and because of that the statistics of innocent death would continue to rise. So what is the solution?



No. We cannot agree the tables would not turn. Because it absolutely would not. Israel is run by Fascists with a clear ethnic cleansing ideology.

Your islamaphobic rhetoric is no doubt as a result of consuming Zionist media for decades.

Palestinians lived in peace before "Israeli migrants" appeared.

Palestine comprised of Jews, Christians and Muslims living in harmony. So no, the tables would not turn. You live in the Star Wars empire friend and you don't even know it.

Israeli government should be charged for war crimes for the butcher of Palestinians (and their own citizens).

That's the first thing that should happen.

The settler movement in Israel needs to be disbanded and the Murderers within it put into jail is the next.

All stolen lands and properties to be returned to the Palestinians is the next step. There is a lot.

All apartheid laws abolished. Palestinians given back their genuine self governance again (so they can create a military, set their own laws etc)

That's the peaceful resolution.

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That will never happen though. Also I'm free from all media. I know little of the subject. I can just see things for what they are, and this is a no win. Your solution is simply delusional, and you know it.
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The US has sent Israel thousands of munitions.
They are launching hellfire missiles (designed to take out tanks) into refugee camps (people living in tents).
One of the many, many atrocities they do.
You're either against the genocide of the Palestinians or for it.
There is no middle ground.




I'm not for that, but I am curious what the other hand is? Like what do you think should be done?





As much as it sounds like I picking sides, I feel the weaker side should surrender, and try to save their people in any way possible. That is a hot take people will absolutely hate, but it's true. The weak side that can't stand up for themselves and will lose 100% should simply surrender in attempt salvage innocent lives. To keep it going and forcing people to die is pretty sad tbh. Unless you think the whole world should get involved at large. Which in that case, amplify the innocent death toll to unfathomable numbers.





Also I'll make a little edit to make it known I'm not saying Palestine is weak because I hate Muslim, or worship Israel because I think they are powerful. I despise this situation. What I'm saying is the evidence is on the table and clear. The US and Isreal clearly aren't going to stop. So what is the best solution? If you can find one that doesn't bring the innocent death toll to record numbers I'll actually be surprised.




You are taking the position that Israel is being fair and would treat surrender fairly.


The same Israel that is bombing, schools, hospitals, mosques, churches, refugee camps, bakeries and anything else.


They are not. They are an oppressive force that has broken hundreds of international laws.


Israel are the land invaders, the illegal occupiers.


Like I said, you're either for the genocide of Palestians or you aren't.


Israel have "arrested" thousands of Palestinians. They are held in military courts without trials and kept in prisons for years. Many are children who are taken. These men, women and children and then beaten and sodomized by Israeli guards.


This has been happening since before Oct 7th.


So no. Palestinians peacefully surrendering their land and homes will not end their suffering at the hands of Israelis.


You are extraordinarily ignorant of the real situation at hand but then try to play it off like there's an achievable middle ground.


This does not exist. You either want Palestinian genocide or you stand against it.




No, I want you to tell me the other hand of the situation. A situation with no innocent death that can exist within reality. That is your main argument right? The death of innocent people? Because we can all agree if Palestine was given the exact same power Isreal has, the tables would turn, and because of that the statistics of innocent death would continue to rise. So what is the solution?
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No. We cannot agree the tables would not turn. Because it absolutely would not. Israel is run by Fascists with a clear ethnic cleansing ideology.

Your islamaphobic rhetoric is no doubt as a result of consuming Zionist media for decades.

Palestinians lived in peace before "Israeli migrants" appeared.

Palestine comprised of Jews, Christians and Muslims living in harmony. So no, the tables would not turn. You live in the Star Wars empire friend and you don't even know it.

Israeli government should be charged for war crimes for the butcher of Palestinians (and their own citizens).

That's the first thing that should happen.

The settler movement in Israel needs to be disbanded and the Murderers within it put into jail is the next.

All stolen lands and properties to be returned to the Palestinians is the next step. There is a lot.

All apartheid laws abolished. Palestinians given back their genuine self governance again (so they can create a military, set their own laws etc)

That's the peaceful resolution.

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See the problem with this is why you won't get your deal, you've only specified what Israel have to do and how it's all their fault. Where is the peace in that, you're on that attack. You do realize Israel doesn't have to have a ceasefire, they can have it on their terms because they have the fire power, they can eradicate Palestine. Why will they accept your terms, when they don't need to.
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So Israel should just stop and let Hamas keep attacking them?





A few of the insane conditions Israel have forced on Palestinians.





1. Palestinians cannot store rainwater. Israel has declared this illegal and any water tanks set up this way are destroyed.





2. Palestinians in Gaza are forbidden from fishing.





3. Palestinians cannot own their own cows. All milk and dairy MUST be purchased from Israeli companies.





Just 3 totally insane laws that Palestinians have no choice but to abide by or be thrown into jail.









Sounds like how they treat their women yeah?



Yes the Israelis should treat them better, as you've seen from my posts when I started. But man make no mistake that Hamas will just grow and try to eradicate Israelis. They do no want peace they want complete destruction. You're not dealing with nice people here who will concede and come to an agreement, you're dealing with people who camp under schools and hospitals and lock civilians inside them. You're dealing with people who want women to dress in a black robe for fuck sake.



I see the Islamaphobic rhetoric from Zionist media has brainwashed you too.

Congratulations.

Meanwhile Israeli women within the IDF are genuinely being sexually harassed/assaulted most cases not even making it to trial. Of all cases, most women felt their reports weren't taking seriously by commanding officers. Of those that were taken to trial most thought it was downplayed.

That's genuine sexual abuse too.

Lmao, Hamas aren't hiding out in tunnels under every civilian infrastructure ffs. How stupid are you?

Israel to my knowledge have shown 3 tunnel videos and they were all debunked and proven false.

The only bunker and tunnel network under the hospital they found (Al Shifa) was the one they built during the occupation. AND IT WAS EMPTY. They then planted 10 guns and said it was proof 😂😂😂😂

Pathetic.

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Meanwhile lets change the story away from how disgustingly bad Islam treats women yeah?
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The US has sent Israel thousands of munitions.

They are launching hellfire missiles (designed to take out tanks) into refugee camps (people living in tents).

One of the many, many atrocities they do.

You're either against the genocide of the Palestinians or for it.

There is no middle ground.











I'm not for that, but I am curious what the other hand is? Like what do you think should be done?











As much as it sounds like I picking sides, I feel the weaker side should surrender, and try to save their people in any way possible. That is a hot take people will absolutely hate, but it's true. The weak side that can't stand up for themselves and will lose 100% should simply surrender in attempt salvage innocent lives. To keep it going and forcing people to die is pretty sad tbh. Unless you think the whole world should get involved at large. Which in that case, amplify the innocent death toll to unfathomable numbers.











Also I'll make a little edit to make it known I'm not saying Palestine is weak because I hate Muslim, or worship Israel because I think they are powerful. I despise this situation. What I'm saying is the evidence is on the table and clear. The US and Isreal clearly aren't going to stop. So what is the best solution? If you can find one that doesn't bring the innocent death toll to record numbers I'll actually be surprised.









You are taking the position that Israel is being fair and would treat surrender fairly.









The same Israel that is bombing, schools, hospitals, mosques, churches, refugee camps, bakeries and anything else.









They are not. They are an oppressive force that has broken hundreds of international laws.









Israel are the land invaders, the illegal occupiers.









Like I said, you're either for the genocide of Palestians or you aren't.









Israel have "arrested" thousands of Palestinians. They are held in military courts without trials and kept in prisons for years. Many are children who are taken. These men, women and children and then beaten and sodomized by Israeli guards.









This has been happening since before Oct 7th.









So no. Palestinians peacefully surrendering their land and homes will not end their suffering at the hands of Israelis.









You are extraordinarily ignorant of the real situation at hand but then try to play it off like there's an achievable middle ground.









This does not exist. You either want Palestinian genocide or you stand against it.







No, I want you to tell me the other hand of the situation. A situation with no innocent death that can exist within reality. That is your main argument right? The death of innocent people? Because we can all agree if Palestine was given the exact same power Isreal has, the tables would turn, and because of that the statistics of innocent death would continue to rise. So what is the solution?





No. We cannot agree the tables would not turn. Because it absolutely would not. Israel is run by Fascists with a clear ethnic cleansing ideology.





Your islamaphobic rhetoric is no doubt as a result of consuming Zionist media for decades.





Palestinians lived in peace before "Israeli migrants" appeared.





Palestine comprised of Jews, Christians and Muslims living in harmony. So no, the tables would not turn. You live in the Star Wars empire friend and you don't even know it.





Israeli government should be charged for war crimes for the butcher of Palestinians (and their own citizens).





That's the first thing that should happen.





The settler movement in Israel needs to be disbanded and the Murderers within it put into jail is the next.





All stolen lands and properties to be returned to the Palestinians is the next step. There is a lot.





All apartheid laws abolished. Palestinians given back their genuine self governance again (so they can create a military, set their own laws etc)





That's the peaceful resolution.









That will never happen though. Also I'm free from all media. I know little of the subject. I can just see things for what they are, and this is a no win. Your solution is simply delusional, and you know it.



You asked what the solution is.
I answered.

Yes. I can tell you know little of the subject.
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I can tell you can't see into the future whatsoever. Like I mentioned, the US and Isreal won't stop, and never will. Make a new solution with that in mind. Also keep in mind there are real innocent lives at stakes now. Up to the millions. What is your solution with all that information? The enemy won't stop, any never will. Is 100 times stronger. Innocent lives are adding up every day. What is your solution? This isn't a pretend solution from you anymore, I want your real solution.
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The US has sent Israel thousands of munitions.
They are launching hellfire missiles (designed to take out tanks) into refugee camps (people living in tents).
One of the many, many atrocities they do.
You're either against the genocide of the Palestinians or for it.
There is no middle ground.




I'm not for that, but I am curious what the other hand is? Like what do you think should be done?





As much as it sounds like I picking sides, I feel the weaker side should surrender, and try to save their people in any way possible. That is a hot take people will absolutely hate, but it's true. The weak side that can't stand up for themselves and will lose 100% should simply surrender in attempt salvage innocent lives. To keep it going and forcing people to die is pretty sad tbh. Unless you think the whole world should get involved at large. Which in that case, amplify the innocent death toll to unfathomable numbers.





Also I'll make a little edit to make it known I'm not saying Palestine is weak because I hate Muslim, or worship Israel because I think they are powerful. I despise this situation. What I'm saying is the evidence is on the table and clear. The US and Isreal clearly aren't going to stop. So what is the best solution? If you can find one that doesn't bring the innocent death toll to record numbers I'll actually be surprised.




You are taking the position that Israel is being fair and would treat surrender fairly.


The same Israel that is bombing, schools, hospitals, mosques, churches, refugee camps, bakeries and anything else.


They are not. They are an oppressive force that has broken hundreds of international laws.


Israel are the land invaders, the illegal occupiers.


Like I said, you're either for the genocide of Palestians or you aren't.


Israel have "arrested" thousands of Palestinians. They are held in military courts without trials and kept in prisons for years. Many are children who are taken. These men, women and children and then beaten and sodomized by Israeli guards.


This has been happening since before Oct 7th.


So no. Palestinians peacefully surrendering their land and homes will not end their suffering at the hands of Israelis.


You are extraordinarily ignorant of the real situation at hand but then try to play it off like there's an achievable middle ground.


This does not exist. You either want Palestinian genocide or you stand against it.




No, I want you to tell me the other hand of the situation. A situation with no innocent death that can exist within reality. That is your main argument right? The death of innocent people? Because we can all agree if Palestine was given the exact same power Isreal has, the tables would turn, and because of that the statistics of innocent death would continue to rise. So what is the solution?
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No. We cannot agree the tables would not turn. Because it absolutely would not. Israel is run by Fascists with a clear ethnic cleansing ideology.

Your islamaphobic rhetoric is no doubt as a result of consuming Zionist media for decades.

Palestinians lived in peace before "Israeli migrants" appeared.

Palestine comprised of Jews, Christians and Muslims living in harmony. So no, the tables would not turn. You live in the Star Wars empire friend and you don't even know it.

Israeli government should be charged for war crimes for the butcher of Palestinians (and their own citizens).

That's the first thing that should happen.

The settler movement in Israel needs to be disbanded and the Murderers within it put into jail is the next.

All stolen lands and properties to be returned to the Palestinians is the next step. There is a lot.

All apartheid laws abolished. Palestinians given back their genuine self governance again (so they can create a military, set their own laws etc)

That's the peaceful resolution.



See the problem with this is why you won't get your deal, you've only specified what Israel have to do and how it's all their fault. Where is the peace in that, you're on that attack. You do realize Israel doesn't have to have a ceasefire, they can have it on their terms because they have the fire power, they can eradicate Palestine. Why will they accept your terms, when they don't need to.



You're trying to pick fights you aren't equipped for. Strange behaviour.

Who said anything about Israel wanting to accept these proposals that I have made?

I was asked what the solution to stop violence is, I have answered it.

Nothing can be done until these war mongering bastards are rotting in jail. Nothing will be done because Israel are paying tens of millions to western politicians and own several hundred media outlets. Keeping sheep quiet.
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You going to tell us how you think women should wear Hijabs yeah? What else, you're right I'm not equipped for it, I know fuck all. Except Hijabs bad.
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Meh I'm not tryna have a pointless argument and get banned. Hate Hijabs, hate Islamic extremism.



And wearing a Hijab is worse than 70% of female soldiers in Israeli IDF getting sexually harrassed/abused?

Lol, clown.
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yeah "wearing a Hijab" is the polite way of saying it. I'm not going into the details, you know how bad it is. Keep supporting it.
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The US has sent Israel thousands of munitions.

They are launching hellfire missiles (designed to take out tanks) into refugee camps (people living in tents).

One of the many, many atrocities they do.

You're either against the genocide of the Palestinians or for it.

There is no middle ground.















I'm not for that, but I am curious what the other hand is? Like what do you think should be done?















As much as it sounds like I picking sides, I feel the weaker side should surrender, and try to save their people in any way possible. That is a hot take people will absolutely hate, but it's true. The weak side that can't stand up for themselves and will lose 100% should simply surrender in attempt salvage innocent lives. To keep it going and forcing people to die is pretty sad tbh. Unless you think the whole world should get involved at large. Which in that case, amplify the innocent death toll to unfathomable numbers.















Also I'll make a little edit to make it known I'm not saying Palestine is weak because I hate Muslim, or worship Israel because I think they are powerful. I despise this situation. What I'm saying is the evidence is on the table and clear. The US and Isreal clearly aren't going to stop. So what is the best solution? If you can find one that doesn't bring the innocent death toll to record numbers I'll actually be surprised.













You are taking the position that Israel is being fair and would treat surrender fairly.













The same Israel that is bombing, schools, hospitals, mosques, churches, refugee camps, bakeries and anything else.













They are not. They are an oppressive force that has broken hundreds of international laws.













Israel are the land invaders, the illegal occupiers.













Like I said, you're either for the genocide of Palestians or you aren't.













Israel have "arrested" thousands of Palestinians. They are held in military courts without trials and kept in prisons for years. Many are children who are taken. These men, women and children and then beaten and sodomized by Israeli guards.













This has been happening since before Oct 7th.













So no. Palestinians peacefully surrendering their land and homes will not end their suffering at the hands of Israelis.













You are extraordinarily ignorant of the real situation at hand but then try to play it off like there's an achievable middle ground.













This does not exist. You either want Palestinian genocide or you stand against it.











No, I want you to tell me the other hand of the situation. A situation with no innocent death that can exist within reality. That is your main argument right? The death of innocent people? Because we can all agree if Palestine was given the exact same power Isreal has, the tables would turn, and because of that the statistics of innocent death would continue to rise. So what is the solution?









No. We cannot agree the tables would not turn. Because it absolutely would not. Israel is run by Fascists with a clear ethnic cleansing ideology.









Your islamaphobic rhetoric is no doubt as a result of consuming Zionist media for decades.









Palestinians lived in peace before "Israeli migrants" appeared.









Palestine comprised of Jews, Christians and Muslims living in harmony. So no, the tables would not turn. You live in the Star Wars empire friend and you don't even know it.









Israeli government should be charged for war crimes for the butcher of Palestinians (and their own citizens).









That's the first thing that should happen.









The settler movement in Israel needs to be disbanded and the Murderers within it put into jail is the next.









All stolen lands and properties to be returned to the Palestinians is the next step. There is a lot.









All apartheid laws abolished. Palestinians given back their genuine self governance again (so they can create a military, set their own laws etc)









That's the peaceful resolution.

















That will never happen though. Also I'm free from all media. I know little of the subject. I can just see things for what they are, and this is a no win. Your solution is simply delusional, and you know it.





You asked what the solution is.


I answered.





Yes. I can tell you know little of the subject.



I can tell you can't see into the future whatsoever. Like I mentioned, the US and Isreal won't stop, and never will. Make a new solution with that in mind. Also keep in mind there are real innocent lives at stakes now. Up to the millions. What is your solution with all that information? The enemy won't stop, any never will. Is 100 times stronger. Innocent lives are adding up every day. What is your solution? This isn't a pretend solution from you anymore, I want your real solution.



Why do you play this weird game?

You did it last time too. I give you my answers and you keep repeating the question.

I have told you.

Israeli government must be jailed for war crimes.
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They own fucking nukes ffs, and are also clearly backed by the US. Do you honestly think your delusional takes will every happen? Read the room. Listen, I don't dislike you, and I absolutely fucking hate our world politics. That doesn't change the reality of things though. Which is why I feel surrender is the only option... If not, let's just blow this whole place up right? Watch all the women and children burn equally—
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Of course the Zionists keep winning because more waves of refugees keep heading to Europe and destabilizing it there, and the refugees win because now they're in Europe.



Yup, definitely brainwashed.

You're close though, if you can push yourself passed the low hanging fruit racism.

Think now.

Why are there so many refugees. What's causing this?
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Meh I'm not tryna have a pointless argument and get banned. Hate Hijabs, hate Islamic extremism.





And wearing a Hijab is worse than 70% of female soldiers in Israeli IDF getting sexually harrassed/abused?





Lol, clown.



yeah "wearing a Hijab" is the polite way of saying it. I'm not going into the details, you know how bad it is. Keep supporting it.



I don't support it.

I'm just not so sexist I pretend I speak for every woman.
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Lol you support Hijabs mate, you support Islamic extremism. Heh yes lets make this about me being sexist and not the thing you're defending.
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Of course the Zionists keep winning because more waves of refugees keep heading to Europe and destabilizing it there, and the refugees win because now they're in Europe.





Yup, definitely brainwashed.





You're close though, if you can push yourself passed the low hanging fruit racism.





Think now.





Why are there so many refugees. What's causing this?



Hijabs



No.

Try again. Actually use your brain, this is a learning moment. Stop the flippant answers.

Let's try again.

Why are so many refugees moving?
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Meh I'm not tryna have a pointless argument and get banned. Hate Hijabs, hate Islamic extremism.









And wearing a Hijab is worse than 70% of female soldiers in Israeli IDF getting sexually harrassed/abused?









Lol, clown.







yeah "wearing a Hijab" is the polite way of saying it. I'm not going into the details, you know how bad it is. Keep supporting it.





I don't support it.





I'm just not so sexist I pretend I speak for every woman.



Lol you support Hijabs mate, you support Islamic extremism. Heh yes lets make this about me being sexist and not the thing you're defending.



No. I don't support it and I don't condemn it.

I have the humility in myself to understand that people can like different things.

And unlike you, I've spoken to real people who like it and those who don't.
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Meh I'm not tryna have a pointless argument and get banned. Hate Hijabs, hate Islamic extremism.






And wearing a Hijab is worse than 70% of female soldiers in Israeli IDF getting sexually harrassed/abused?







Lol, clown.




yeah "wearing a Hijab" is the polite way of saying it. I'm not going into the details, you know how bad it is. Keep supporting it.




I don't support it.





I'm just not so sexist I pretend I speak for every woman.




Lol you support Hijabs mate, you support Islamic extremism. Heh yes lets make this about me being sexist and not the thing you're defending.




No. I don't support it and I don't condemn it.

I have the humility in myself to understand that people can like different things.

And unlike you, I've spoken to real people who like it and those who don't.
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Na, that guy has some metal issues. I know for a fact you can see it. You're just being nice for the sake of being nice.
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So Israel should just stop and let Hamas keep attacking them?




A few of the insane conditions Israel have forced on Palestinians.

1. Palestinians cannot store rainwater. Israel has declared this illegal and any water tanks set up this way are destroyed.

2. Palestinians in Gaza are forbidden from fishing.

3. Palestinians cannot own their own cows. All milk and dairy MUST be purchased from Israeli companies.

Just 3 totally insane laws that Palestinians have no choice but to abide by or be thrown into jail.

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Sounds like how they treat their women yeah?

Yes the Israelis should treat them better, as you've seen from my posts when I started. But man make no mistake that Hamas will just grow and try to eradicate Israelis. They do no want peace they want complete destruction. You're not dealing with nice people here who will concede and come to an agreement, you're dealing with people who camp under schools and hospitals and lock civilians inside them. You're dealing with people who want women to dress in a black robe for fuck sake.



Also Hamas doesn't exist in the west bank, but Israelis are still killing people there, so what's their excuse this time?
And you still hasn't answered my first question.
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The US has sent Israel thousands of munitions.
They are launching hellfire missiles (designed to take out tanks) into refugee camps (people living in tents).
One of the many, many atrocities they do.
You're either against the genocide of the Palestinians or for it.
There is no middle ground.








I'm not for that, but I am curious what the other hand is? Like what do you think should be done?










As much as it sounds like I picking sides, I feel the weaker side should surrender, and try to save their people in any way possible. That is a hot take people will absolutely hate, but it's true. The weak side that can't stand up for themselves and will lose 100% should simply surrender in attempt salvage innocent lives. To keep it going and forcing people to die is pretty sad tbh. Unless you think the whole world should get involved at large. Which in that case, amplify the innocent death toll to unfathomable numbers.










Also I'll make a little edit to make it known I'm not saying Palestine is weak because I hate Muslim, or worship Israel because I think they are powerful. I despise this situation. What I'm saying is the evidence is on the table and clear. The US and Isreal clearly aren't going to stop. So what is the best solution? If you can find one that doesn't bring the innocent death toll to record numbers I'll actually be surprised.








You are taking the position that Israel is being fair and would treat surrender fairly.









The same Israel that is bombing, schools, hospitals, mosques, churches, refugee camps, bakeries and anything else.









They are not. They are an oppressive force that has broken hundreds of international laws.









Israel are the land invaders, the illegal occupiers.









Like I said, you're either for the genocide of Palestians or you aren't.









Israel have "arrested" thousands of Palestinians. They are held in military courts without trials and kept in prisons for years. Many are children who are taken. These men, women and children and then beaten and sodomized by Israeli guards.









This has been happening since before Oct 7th.









So no. Palestinians peacefully surrendering their land and homes will not end their suffering at the hands of Israelis.









You are extraordinarily ignorant of the real situation at hand but then try to play it off like there's an achievable middle ground.









This does not exist. You either want Palestinian genocide or you stand against it.






No, I want you to tell me the other hand of the situation. A situation with no innocent death that can exist within reality. That is your main argument right? The death of innocent people? Because we can all agree if Palestine was given the exact same power Isreal has, the tables would turn, and because of that the statistics of innocent death would continue to rise. So what is the solution?






No. We cannot agree the tables would not turn. Because it absolutely would not. Israel is run by Fascists with a clear ethnic cleansing ideology.







Your islamaphobic rhetoric is no doubt as a result of consuming Zionist media for decades.







Palestinians lived in peace before "Israeli migrants" appeared.







Palestine comprised of Jews, Christians and Muslims living in harmony. So no, the tables would not turn. You live in the Star Wars empire friend and you don't even know it.







Israeli government should be charged for war crimes for the butcher of Palestinians (and their own citizens).







That's the first thing that should happen.







The settler movement in Israel needs to be disbanded and the Murderers within it put into jail is the next.







All stolen lands and properties to be returned to the Palestinians is the next step. There is a lot.







All apartheid laws abolished. Palestinians given back their genuine self governance again (so they can create a military, set their own laws etc)







That's the peaceful resolution.










That will never happen though. Also I'm free from all media. I know little of the subject. I can just see things for what they are, and this is a no win. Your solution is simply delusional, and you know it.




You asked what the solution is.


I answered.





Yes. I can tell you know little of the subject.




I can tell you can't see into the future whatsoever. Like I mentioned, the US and Isreal won't stop, and never will. Make a new solution with that in mind. Also keep in mind there are real innocent lives at stakes now. Up to the millions. What is your solution with all that information? The enemy won't stop, any never will. Is 100 times stronger. Innocent lives are adding up every day. What is your solution? This isn't a pretend solution from you anymore, I want your real solution.




Why do you play this weird game?

You did it last time too. I give you my answers and you keep repeating the question.

I have told you.

Israeli government must be jailed for war crimes.
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They own fucking nukes ffs, and are also clearly backed by the US. Do you honestly think your delusional takes will every happen? Read the room. Listen, I don't dislike you, and I absolutely fucking hate our world politics. That doesn't change the reality of things though. Which is why I feel surrender is the only option... If not, let's just blow this whole place up right? Watch all the women and children burn equally—
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Honestly stoped them dead. Even the harbinger of deep opinion couldn't compete with this quote right here.
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Meh I'm not tryna have a pointless argument and get banned. Hate Hijabs, hate Islamic extremism.





And wearing a Hijab is worse than 70% of female soldiers in Israeli IDF getting sexually harrassed/abused?





Lol, clown.



yeah "wearing a Hijab" is the polite way of saying it. I'm not going into the details, you know how bad it is. Keep supporting it.



I don't support it.



I'm just not so sexist I pretend I speak for every woman.

Lol you support Hijabs mate, you support Islamic extremism. Heh yes lets make this about me being sexist and not the thing you're defending.

No. I don't support it and I don't condemn it.

I have the humility in myself to understand that people can like different things.

And unlike you, I've spoken to real people who like it and those who don't.
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Give your parents a hug for raising you well mate, they did good.
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Na, that guy has some metal issues. I know for a fact you can see it. You're just being nice for the sake of being nice.



He's being sarcastic.

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68% of me truly feels bad. I just get annoyed when people can't see the true picture.
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So Israel should just stop and let Hamas keep attacking them?




A few of the insane conditions Israel have forced on Palestinians.

1. Palestinians cannot store rainwater. Israel has declared this illegal and any water tanks set up this way are destroyed.

2. Palestinians in Gaza are forbidden from fishing.

3. Palestinians cannot own their own cows. All milk and dairy MUST be purchased from Israeli companies.

Just 3 totally insane laws that Palestinians have no choice but to abide by or be thrown into jail.

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Sounds like how they treat their women yeah?

Yes the Israelis should treat them better, as you've seen from my posts when I started. But man make no mistake that Hamas will just grow and try to eradicate Israelis. They do no want peace they want complete destruction. You're not dealing with nice people here who will concede and come to an agreement, you're dealing with people who camp under schools and hospitals and lock civilians inside them. You're dealing with people who want women to dress in a black robe for fuck sake.





Also Hamas doesn't exist in the west bank, but Israelis are still killing people there, so what's their excuse this time?


And you still hasn't answered my first question.



I'm not obliged to answer any questions



You're also not obliged to talk about things you know very little about, you'll just embarrass yourself.
If you want to educate yourself more about the matter, you should listen to Jewish people talking about this issue not Zionists but real Jewish people like Gabor Maté or Norman Finkelstein.
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Yeah?
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The US has sent Israel thousands of munitions.
They are launching hellfire missiles (designed to take out tanks) into refugee camps (people living in tents).
One of the many, many atrocities they do.
You're either against the genocide of the Palestinians or for it.
There is no middle ground.







I'm not for that, but I am curious what the other hand is? Like what do you think should be done?








As much as it sounds like I picking sides, I feel the weaker side should surrender, and try to save their people in any way possible. That is a hot take people will absolutely hate, but it's true. The weak side that can't stand up for themselves and will lose 100% should simply surrender in attempt salvage innocent lives. To keep it going and forcing people to die is pretty sad tbh. Unless you think the whole world should get involved at large. Which in that case, amplify the innocent death toll to unfathomable numbers.








Also I'll make a little edit to make it known I'm not saying Palestine is weak because I hate Muslim, or worship Israel because I think they are powerful. I despise this situation. What I'm saying is the evidence is on the table and clear. The US and Isreal clearly aren't going to stop. So what is the best solution? If you can find one that doesn't bring the innocent death toll to record numbers I'll actually be surprised.







You are taking the position that Israel is being fair and would treat surrender fairly.







The same Israel that is bombing, schools, hospitals, mosques, churches, refugee camps, bakeries and anything else.







They are not. They are an oppressive force that has broken hundreds of international laws.







Israel are the land invaders, the illegal occupiers.







Like I said, you're either for the genocide of Palestians or you aren't.







Israel have "arrested" thousands of Palestinians. They are held in military courts without trials and kept in prisons for years. Many are children who are taken. These men, women and children and then beaten and sodomized by Israeli guards.







This has been happening since before Oct 7th.







So no. Palestinians peacefully surrendering their land and homes will not end their suffering at the hands of Israelis.







You are extraordinarily ignorant of the real situation at hand but then try to play it off like there's an achievable middle ground.







This does not exist. You either want Palestinian genocide or you stand against it.





No, I want you to tell me the other hand of the situation. A situation with no innocent death that can exist within reality. That is your main argument right? The death of innocent people? Because we can all agree if Palestine was given the exact same power Isreal has, the tables would turn, and because of that the statistics of innocent death would continue to rise. So what is the solution?





No. We cannot agree the tables would not turn. Because it absolutely would not. Israel is run by Fascists with a clear ethnic cleansing ideology.





Your islamaphobic rhetoric is no doubt as a result of consuming Zionist media for decades.





Palestinians lived in peace before "Israeli migrants" appeared.





Palestine comprised of Jews, Christians and Muslims living in harmony. So no, the tables would not turn. You live in the Star Wars empire friend and you don't even know it.





Israeli government should be charged for war crimes for the butcher of Palestinians (and their own citizens).





That's the first thing that should happen.





The settler movement in Israel needs to be disbanded and the Murderers within it put into jail is the next.





All stolen lands and properties to be returned to the Palestinians is the next step. There is a lot.





All apartheid laws abolished. Palestinians given back their genuine self governance again (so they can create a military, set their own laws etc)





That's the peaceful resolution.








That will never happen though. Also I'm free from all media. I know little of the subject. I can just see things for what they are, and this is a no win. Your solution is simply delusional, and you know it.



You asked what the solution is.

I answered.



Yes. I can tell you know little of the subject.

I can tell you can't see into the future whatsoever. Like I mentioned, the US and Isreal won't stop, and never will. Make a new solution with that in mind. Also keep in mind there are real innocent lives at stakes now. Up to the millions. What is your solution with all that information? The enemy won't stop, any never will. Is 100 times stronger. Innocent lives are adding up every day. What is your solution? This isn't a pretend solution from you anymore, I want your real solution.

Why do you play this weird game?

You did it last time too. I give you my answers and you keep repeating the question.

I have told you.

Israeli government must be jailed for war crimes.
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They own fucking nukes ffs, and are also clearly backed by the US. Do you honestly think your delusional takes will every happen? Read the room. Listen, I don't dislike you, and I absolutely fucking hate our world politics. That doesn't change the reality of things though. Which is why I feel surrender is the only option... If not, let's just blow this whole place up right? Watch all the women and children burn equally—
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Honestly stoped them dead. Even the harbinger of deep opinion couldn't compete with this quote right here.



I missed this.

God what an idiotic reaction to not getting an instant reply. So desperate for my attention. Anyway.

Lol, they're already blowing the fucking place up. Have you been sleeping? They dropped 6000 bombs in a week. They dropped so many fucking bombs the US is having the resupply them.

They are already on course to slaughter everything.

The only reason they haven't nuked it is because they want to use the land after.

I have said, the Israeli government must be tried for war crimes. That is not delusional. If you can't see it happening with Israel losing the information war then I don't know what to tell you.
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True I do dumb stuff from time to time. I must of forgot my meds today. I'm also quite curious what your solution is to avoid more innocent deaths. Let's assume Isreal and the US won't give up till Palestine is erased off the map. Which seems clear at this point tbh. No mercy, no care for Muslim life whatsoever. What is a realistic solution? Again I want you to stop pretending and actually play in the real world ffs. I don't want you defending people under tents either. I want you to tell me how you 100% win
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@TemporaryAccommodation I have to quote you like this because dxpnet won't let out prior conversation go any longer unfortunately. Though it still exists. I am happy with that answer. My only question is can you divide yourself from what you personally see, and the reality of the outcome? That is the real question. You can have your own opinion, and make it seem functional in the real world. But is it? Honestly I can't answer that. You are truly the type to pick fights you aren't equipped for. You can't even see the reality of things, or the future outcome.
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So Israel should just stop and let Hamas keep attacking them?
A few of the insane conditions Israel have forced on Palestinians.
1. Palestinians cannot store rainwater. Israel has declared this illegal and any water tanks set up this way are destroyed.
2. Palestinians in Gaza are forbidden from fishing.
3. Palestinians cannot own their own cows. All milk and dairy MUST be purchased from Israeli companies.
Just 3 totally insane laws that Palestinians have no choice but to abide by or be thrown into jail.

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Bumping this as the racist tried to downplay how insane this is.

This is how oppressed the Palestinians are, they have no freedom and rights within their own land.
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@TemporaryAccommodation I have to quote you like this because dxpnet won't let out prior conversation go any longer unfortunately. Though it still exists. I am happy with that answer. My only question is can you divide yourself from what you personally see, and the reality of the outcome? That is the real question. You can have your own opinion, and make it seem functional in the real world. But is it? Honestly I can't answer that. You are truly the type to pick fights you aren't equipped for. You can't even see the reality of things, or the future outcome.



Soul.

Your whole argument and the reason you keep communicating with me is because you have the premise that innocent blood must be spilled regardless and you rather ignorantly think I am unable to see that.

I believe there are solutions that can genuinely avoid the loss of innocent life, but they all take time and a lot of coordinated effort from every day people.

Sadly this ongoing massacre has no such patience.

The only way to stop this massacre is diplomatic pressure or military pressure.

And these are things I cannot personally do. So why do you keep asking me to do them. Lol 😂

Should Egypt, Lebanon and Jordan blow up Israeli military bases and thus stop Israel launching bombs? Absolutely.

Will they? No. Lebanon is distancing itself from Hizbolla who are succeeding on their military actions.

Jordan and Egypt say stop the killing but continue to provide resources to US and Israel.

Why? Because the US is the biggest threat on the planet.

They don't want to incur the wrath of the US.

Should the Middle Eastern countries unite (they could easily take out Israel and repell US advances)
But they will not. There's a reason US invests so heavily in certain countries there (and not just Israel)
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So again, what do you do? The US is the strongest military on the planet. What is the solution? Everything they touch turns to either gold or oil, so other then surrendering what is the solution?
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That is actually fucked up man, everyone deserves cows.

But since I decided I'm anti humus today, I am not allowed to concede and I am not allowed to show any nuance either since that'd go against my spastic uninformed narrative. I didn't make the rules.



Refugees are moving to Europe for safety.

They're moving due to the conflicts created in their countries by groups started/trained/funded by US and Israeli agencies.

Don't want the browns in your land? Then take out the Zionists in your government.

Simple solution.
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That's exactly what I said man, lol.
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That is actually fucked up man, everyone deserves cows.

But since I decided I'm anti humus today, I am not allowed to concede and I am not allowed to show any nuance either since that'd go against my spastic uninformed narrative. I didn't make the rules.





Refugees are moving to Europe for safety.





They're moving due to the conflicts created in their countries by groups started/trained/funded by US and Israeli agencies.





Don't want the browns in your land? Then take out the Zionists in your government.





Simple solution.



That's exactly what I said man, lol.



Must have missed it after all the hijab spam, incidentally what's your size? Might be a cracking Christmas gift for you.
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It'll go well, I'll wear it while eating the roast wild pork I'll no doubt be having
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The US has sent Israel thousands of munitions.
They are launching hellfire missiles (designed to take out tanks) into refugee camps (people living in tents).
One of the many, many atrocities they do.
You're either against the genocide of the Palestinians or for it.
There is no middle ground.




I'm not for that, but I am curious what the other hand is? Like what do you think should be done?


As much as it sounds like I picking sides, I feel the weaker side should surrender, and try to save their people in any way possible. That is a hot take people will absolutely hate, but it's true. The weak side that can't stand up for themselves and will lose 100% should simply surrender in attempt salvage innocent lives. To keep it going and forcing people to die is pretty sad tbh. Unless you think the whole world should get involved at large. Which in that case, amplify the innocent death toll to unfathomable numbers.


Also I'll make a little edit to make it known I'm not saying Palestine is weak because I hate Muslim, or worship Israel because I think they are powerful. I despise this situation. What I'm saying is the evidence is on the table and clear. The US and Isreal clearly aren't going to stop. So what is the best solution? If you can find one that doesn't bring the innocent death toll to record numbers I'll actually be surprised.




You are taking the position that Israel is being fair and would treat surrender fairly.

The same Israel that is bombing, schools, hospitals, mosques, churches, refugee camps, bakeries and anything else.

They are not. They are an oppressive force that has broken hundreds of international laws.

Israel are the land invaders, the illegal occupiers.

Like I said, you're either for the genocide of Palestians or you aren't.

Israel have "arrested" thousands of Palestinians. They are held in military courts without trials and kept in prisons for years. Many are children who are taken. These men, women and children and then beaten and sodomized by Israeli guards.

This has been happening since before Oct 7th.

So no. Palestinians peacefully surrendering their land and homes will not end their suffering at the hands of Israelis.

You are extraordinarily ignorant of the real situation at hand but then try to play it off like there's an achievable middle ground.

This does not exist. You either want Palestinian genocide or you stand against it.
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No, I want you to tell me the other hand of the situation. A situation with no innocent death that can exist within reality. That is your main argument right? The death of innocent people? Because we can all agree if Palestine was given the exact same power Isreal has, the tables would turn, and because of that the statistics of innocent death would continue to rise. So what is the solution?
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This has always been the most fucked up agreement, we have to do it to them before the do it to us! Project much?
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The US has sent Israel thousands of munitions.
They are launching hellfire missiles (designed to take out tanks) into refugee camps (people living in tents).
One of the many, many atrocities they do.
You're either against the genocide of the Palestinians or for it.
There is no middle ground.



I'm not for that, but I am curious what the other hand is? Like what do you think should be done?



As much as it sounds like I picking sides, I feel the weaker side should surrender, and try to save their people in any way possible. That is a hot take people will absolutely hate, but it's true. The weak side that can't stand up for themselves and will lose 100% should simply surrender in attempt salvage innocent lives. To keep it going and forcing people to die is pretty sad tbh. Unless you think the whole world should get involved at large. Which in that case, amplify the innocent death toll to unfathomable numbers.



Also I'll make a little edit to make it known I'm not saying Palestine is weak because I hate Muslim, or worship Israel because I think they are powerful. I despise this situation. What I'm saying is the evidence is on the table and clear. The US and Isreal clearly aren't going to stop. So what is the best solution? If you can find one that doesn't bring the innocent death toll to record numbers I'll actually be surprised.

You are taking the position that Israel is being fair and would treat surrender fairly.


The same Israel that is bombing, schools, hospitals, mosques, churches, refugee camps, bakeries and anything else.


They are not. They are an oppressive force that has broken hundreds of international laws.


Israel are the land invaders, the illegal occupiers.


Like I said, you're either for the genocide of Palestians or you aren't.


Israel have "arrested" thousands of Palestinians. They are held in military courts without trials and kept in prisons for years. Many are children who are taken. These men, women and children and then beaten and sodomized by Israeli guards.


This has been happening since before Oct 7th.


So no. Palestinians peacefully surrendering their land and homes will not end their suffering at the hands of Israelis.


You are extraordinarily ignorant of the real situation at hand but then try to play it off like there's an achievable middle ground.


This does not exist. You either want Palestinian genocide or you stand against it.

No, I want you to tell me the other hand of the situation. A situation with no innocent death that can exist within reality. That is your main argument right? The death of innocent people? Because we can all agree if Palestine was given the exact same power Isreal has, the tables would turn, and because of that the statistics of innocent death would continue to rise. So what is the solution?
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No. We cannot agree the tables would not turn. Because it absolutely would not. Israel is run by Fascists with a clear ethnic cleansing ideology.
Your islamaphobic rhetoric is no doubt as a result of consuming Zionist media for decades.
Palestinians lived in peace before "Israeli migrants" appeared.
Palestine comprised of Jews, Christians and Muslims living in harmony. So no, the tables would not turn. You live in the Star Wars empire friend and you don't even know it.
Israeli government should be charged for war crimes for the butcher of Palestinians (and their own citizens).
That's the first thing that should happen.
The settler movement in Israel needs to be disbanded and the Murderers within it put into jail is the next.
All stolen lands and properties to be returned to the Palestinians is the next step. There is a lot.
All apartheid laws abolished. Palestinians given back their genuine self governance again (so they can create a military, set their own laws etc)
That's the peaceful resolution.

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See the problem with this is why you won't get your deal, you've only specified what Israel have to do and how it's all their fault. Where is the peace in that, you're on that attack. You do realize Israel doesn't have to have a ceasefire, they can have it on their terms because they have the fire power, they can eradicate Palestine. Why will they accept your terms, when they don't need to.
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They would most certainly accept a ceasefire, when we stop giving them money, sanction them can hold them accountable for their war crimes. It worked in thr 60's.
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So Israel should just stop and let Hamas keep attacking them?

A few of the insane conditions Israel have forced on Palestinians.

1. Palestinians cannot store rainwater. Israel has declared this illegal and any water tanks set up this way are destroyed.

2. Palestinians in Gaza are forbidden from fishing.

3. Palestinians cannot own their own cows. All milk and dairy MUST be purchased from Israeli companies.

Just 3 totally insane laws that Palestinians have no choice but to abide by or be thrown into jail.

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Sounds like how they treat their women yeah?
Yes the Israelis should treat them better, as you've seen from my posts when I started. But man make no mistake that Hamas will just grow and try to eradicate Israelis. They do no want peace they want complete destruction. You're not dealing with nice people here who will concede and come to an agreement, you're dealing with people who camp under schools and hospitals and lock civilians inside them. You're dealing with people who want women to dress in a black robe for fuck sake.




Also Hamas doesn't exist in the west bank, but Israelis are still killing people there, so what's their excuse this time?


And you still hasn't answered my first question.




I'm not obliged to answer any questions
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You're also not obliged to talk about things you know very little about, you'll just embarrass yourself.

If you want to educate yourself more about the matter, you should listen to Jewish people talking about this issue not Zionists but real Jewish people like Gabor Maté or Norman Finkelstein.
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Shit listen to Zionists talk about it.... they make everything real clear. Like Stuart Seldowitz. I just found he just got arrested!!
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The US has sent Israel thousands of munitions.
They are launching hellfire missiles (designed to take out tanks) into refugee camps (people living in tents).
One of the many, many atrocities they do.
You're either against the genocide of the Palestinians or for it.
There is no middle ground.



I'm not for that, but I am curious what the other hand is? Like what do you think should be done?



As much as it sounds like I picking sides, I feel the weaker side should surrender, and try to save their people in any way possible. That is a hot take people will absolutely hate, but it's true. The weak side that can't stand up for themselves and will lose 100% should simply surrender in attempt salvage innocent lives. To keep it going and forcing people to die is pretty sad tbh. Unless you think the whole world should get involved at large. Which in that case, amplify the innocent death toll to unfathomable numbers.



Also I'll make a little edit to make it known I'm not saying Palestine is weak because I hate Muslim, or worship Israel because I think they are powerful. I despise this situation. What I'm saying is the evidence is on the table and clear. The US and Isreal clearly aren't going to stop. So what is the best solution? If you can find one that doesn't bring the innocent death toll to record numbers I'll actually be surprised.

You are taking the position that Israel is being fair and would treat surrender fairly.


The same Israel that is bombing, schools, hospitals, mosques, churches, refugee camps, bakeries and anything else.


They are not. They are an oppressive force that has broken hundreds of international laws.


Israel are the land invaders, the illegal occupiers.


Like I said, you're either for the genocide of Palestians or you aren't.


Israel have "arrested" thousands of Palestinians. They are held in military courts without trials and kept in prisons for years. Many are children who are taken. These men, women and children and then beaten and sodomized by Israeli guards.


This has been happening since before Oct 7th.


So no. Palestinians peacefully surrendering their land and homes will not end their suffering at the hands of Israelis.


You are extraordinarily ignorant of the real situation at hand but then try to play it off like there's an achievable middle ground.


This does not exist. You either want Palestinian genocide or you stand against it.

No, I want you to tell me the other hand of the situation. A situation with no innocent death that can exist within reality. That is your main argument right? The death of innocent people? Because we can all agree if Palestine was given the exact same power Isreal has, the tables would turn, and because of that the statistics of innocent death would continue to rise. So what is the solution?
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No. We cannot agree the tables would not turn. Because it absolutely would not. Israel is run by Fascists with a clear ethnic cleansing ideology.
Your islamaphobic rhetoric is no doubt as a result of consuming Zionist media for decades.
Palestinians lived in peace before "Israeli migrants" appeared.
Palestine comprised of Jews, Christians and Muslims living in harmony. So no, the tables would not turn. You live in the Star Wars empire friend and you don't even know it.
Israeli government should be charged for war crimes for the butcher of Palestinians (and their own citizens).
That's the first thing that should happen.
The settler movement in Israel needs to be disbanded and the Murderers within it put into jail is the next.
All stolen lands and properties to be returned to the Palestinians is the next step. There is a lot.
All apartheid laws abolished. Palestinians given back their genuine self governance again (so they can create a military, set their own laws etc)
That's the peaceful resolution.




See the problem with this is why you won't get your deal, you've only specified what Israel have to do and how it's all their fault. Where is the peace in that, you're on that attack. You do realize Israel doesn't have to have a ceasefire, they can have it on their terms because they have the fire power, they can eradicate Palestine. Why will they accept your terms, when they don't need to.




You're trying to pick fights you aren't equipped for. Strange behaviour.

Who said anything about Israel wanting to accept these proposals that I have made?

I was asked what the solution to stop violence is, I have answered it.

Nothing can be done until these war mongering bastards are rotting in jail. Nothing will be done because Israel are paying tens of millions to western politicians and own several hundred media outlets. Keeping sheep quiet.
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You going to tell us how you think women should wear Hijabs yeah? What else, you're right I'm not equipped for it, I know fuck all. Except Hijabs bad.
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Why does Hijab trigger ppl so much!? Baring in mind it is most assuredly not the only religion in which women -as well as men - are required some form of headware. I mean, nuns cover their heads no!? And until the 60s or so one could not enter a church without a hat at least. Also, Hijabs aren't specifically a "religious" parifinila as they are cultural/ethnic markers given every region with Muslim pupilation wears them differently if at all.

I mean really, it boggles my mind why ppl are so triggered by a Hijab? Is it because there's nothing to oogle on? Can't be the old worn out "oh, it's a symbol of oppression" because eif they were so oppressed, millions of of women wouldn't ware them. But nahhh, western society yet again has to impose their own value systhem on others as per usual!
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The US has sent Israel thousands of munitions.
They are launching hellfire missiles (designed to take out tanks) into refugee camps (people living in tents).
One of the many, many atrocities they do.
You're either against the genocide of the Palestinians or for it.
There is no middle ground.

I'm not for that, but I am curious what the other hand is? Like what do you think should be done?

As much as it sounds like I picking sides, I feel the weaker side should surrender, and try to save their people in any way possible. That is a hot take people will absolutely hate, but it's true. The weak side that can't stand up for themselves and will lose 100% should simply surrender in attempt salvage innocent lives. To keep it going and forcing people to die is pretty sad tbh. Unless you think the whole world should get involved at large. Which in that case, amplify the innocent death toll to unfathomable numbers.

Also I'll make a little edit to make it known I'm not saying Palestine is weak because I hate Muslim, or worship Israel because I think they are powerful. I despise this situation. What I'm saying is the evidence is on the table and clear. The US and Isreal clearly aren't going to stop. So what is the best solution? If you can find one that doesn't bring the innocent death toll to record numbers I'll actually be surprised.
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How about start with requesting our goverment ceases financial & military support of all raging wars across the globe it has created? How about stand for the freedom of speech they've been trying to corral under the pretense of plethora of trigger words? How about just be a fucking human being and say enough is fucking enough! Commiting atrocities in our names!?

And mate, I thought I read your siad something along the lines of " refugees are better of for having left their country"... if so, I read many ignorant statements, but that one really tops it!
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So Israel should just stop and let Hamas keep attacking them?




A few of the insane conditions Israel have forced on Palestinians.





1. Palestinians cannot store rainwater. Israel has declared this illegal and any water tanks set up this way are destroyed.





2. Palestinians in Gaza are forbidden from fishing.





3. Palestinians cannot own their own cows. All milk and dairy MUST be purchased from Israeli companies.





Just 3 totally insane laws that Palestinians have no choice but to abide by or be thrown into jail.








Sounds like how they treat their women yeah?


Yes the Israelis should treat them better, as you've seen from my posts when I started. But man make no mistake that Hamas will just grow and try to eradicate Israelis. They do no want peace they want complete destruction. You're not dealing with nice people here who will concede and come to an agreement, you're dealing with people who camp under schools and hospitals and lock civilians inside them. You're dealing with people who want women to dress in a black robe for fuck sake.




I see the Islamaphobic rhetoric from Zionist media has brainwashed you too.

Congratulations.

Meanwhile Israeli women within the IDF are genuinely being sexually harassed/assaulted most cases not even making it to trial. Of all cases, most women felt their reports weren't taking seriously by commanding officers. Of those that were taken to trial most thought it was downplayed.

That's genuine sexual abuse too.

Lmao, Hamas aren't hiding out in tunnels under every civilian infrastructure ffs. How stupid are you?

Israel to my knowledge have shown 3 tunnel videos and they were all debunked and proven false.

The only bunker and tunnel network under the hospital they found (Al Shifa) was the one they built during the occupation. AND IT WAS EMPTY. They then planted 10 guns and said it was proof 😂😂😂😂

Pathetic.

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Meanwhile lets change the story away from how disgustingly bad Islam treats women yeah?
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So wait, the west is now the purveyor of all that is righteous?

And speaking of radical Islam, it would really beoove you to pick up a book or two that aren't filtered through the lense of convenience and read up on its inception. You'd be astounded what you learn!
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The US has sent Israel thousands of munitions.
They are launching hellfire missiles (designed to take out tanks) into refugee camps (people living in tents).
One of the many, many atrocities they do.
You're either against the genocide of the Palestinians or for it.
There is no middle ground.



I'm not for that, but I am curious what the other hand is? Like what do you think should be done?



As much as it sounds like I picking sides, I feel the weaker side should surrender, and try to save their people in any way possible. That is a hot take people will absolutely hate, but it's true. The weak side that can't stand up for themselves and will lose 100% should simply surrender in attempt salvage innocent lives. To keep it going and forcing people to die is pretty sad tbh. Unless you think the whole world should get involved at large. Which in that case, amplify the innocent death toll to unfathomable numbers.



Also I'll make a little edit to make it known I'm not saying Palestine is weak because I hate Muslim, or worship Israel because I think they are powerful. I despise this situation. What I'm saying is the evidence is on the table and clear. The US and Isreal clearly aren't going to stop. So what is the best solution? If you can find one that doesn't bring the innocent death toll to record numbers I'll actually be surprised.

You are taking the position that Israel is being fair and would treat surrender fairly.


The same Israel that is bombing, schools, hospitals, mosques, churches, refugee camps, bakeries and anything else.


They are not. They are an oppressive force that has broken hundreds of international laws.


Israel are the land invaders, the illegal occupiers.


Like I said, you're either for the genocide of Palestians or you aren't.


Israel have "arrested" thousands of Palestinians. They are held in military courts without trials and kept in prisons for years. Many are children who are taken. These men, women and children and then beaten and sodomized by Israeli guards.


This has been happening since before Oct 7th.


So no. Palestinians peacefully surrendering their land and homes will not end their suffering at the hands of Israelis.


You are extraordinarily ignorant of the real situation at hand but then try to play it off like there's an achievable middle ground.


This does not exist. You either want Palestinian genocide or you stand against it.

No, I want you to tell me the other hand of the situation. A situation with no innocent death that can exist within reality. That is your main argument right? The death of innocent people? Because we can all agree if Palestine was given the exact same power Isreal has, the tables would turn, and because of that the statistics of innocent death would continue to rise. So what is the solution?
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No. We cannot agree the tables would not turn. Because it absolutely would not. Israel is run by Fascists with a clear ethnic cleansing ideology.
Your islamaphobic rhetoric is no doubt as a result of consuming Zionist media for decades.
Palestinians lived in peace before "Israeli migrants" appeared.
Palestine comprised of Jews, Christians and Muslims living in harmony. So no, the tables would not turn. You live in the Star Wars empire friend and you don't even know it.
Israeli government should be charged for war crimes for the butcher of Palestinians (and their own citizens).
That's the first thing that should happen.
The settler movement in Israel needs to be disbanded and the Murderers within it put into jail is the next.
All stolen lands and properties to be returned to the Palestinians is the next step. There is a lot.
All apartheid laws abolished. Palestinians given back their genuine self governance again (so they can create a military, set their own laws etc)
That's the peaceful resolution.

See the problem with this is why you won't get your deal, you've only specified what Israel have to do and how it's all their fault. Where is the peace in that, you're on that attack. You do realize Israel doesn't have to have a ceasefire, they can have it on their terms because they have the fire power, they can eradicate Palestine. Why will they accept your terms, when they don't need to.

You're trying to pick fights you aren't equipped for. Strange behaviour.

Who said anything about Israel wanting to accept these proposals that I have made?

I was asked what the solution to stop violence is, I have answered it.

Nothing can be done until these war mongering bastards are rotting in jail. Nothing will be done because Israel are paying tens of millions to western politicians and own several hundred media outlets. Keeping sheep quiet.
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You going to tell us how you think women should wear Hijabs yeah? What else, you're right I'm not equipped for it, I know fuck all. Except Hijabs bad.
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Why does Hijab trigger ppl so much!? Baring in mind it is most assuredly not the only religion in which women -as well as men - are required some form of headware. I mean, nuns cover their heads no!? And until the 60s or so one could not enter a church without a hat at least. Also, Hijabs aren't specifically a "religious" parifinila as they are cultural/ethnic markers given every region with Muslim pupilation wears them differently if at all.

I mean really, it boggles my mind why ppl are so triggered by a Hijab? Is it because there's nothing to oogle on? Can't be the old worn out "oh, it's a symbol of oppression" because eif they were so oppressed, millions of of women wouldn't ware them. But nahhh, western society yet again has to impose their own value systhem on others as per usual!
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It's definitely a tool for oppressions for millions of Islam women. Even if half the population like it, it's still oppressive to the ones that don't and are forced to wear it. Islam treats women horribly, any denial of that is pure delusion and brainwashing. They treat non Islam women even worse too. There are many Islamic men who do believe that all women should wear a Hijab. An Islamic woman might not wear a Hijab, then might come a across a man who will treat her like dirt.

https://www.theguardian.com/global-development/2023/feb/06/iran-protesters-police-rapes-beatings-and-torture
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The US has sent Israel thousands of munitions.
They are launching hellfire missiles (designed to take out tanks) into refugee camps (people living in tents).
One of the many, many atrocities they do.
You're either against the genocide of the Palestinians or for it.
There is no middle ground.



I'm not for that, but I am curious what the other hand is? Like what do you think should be done?



As much as it sounds like I picking sides, I feel the weaker side should surrender, and try to save their people in any way possible. That is a hot take people will absolutely hate, but it's true. The weak side that can't stand up for themselves and will lose 100% should simply surrender in attempt salvage innocent lives. To keep it going and forcing people to die is pretty sad tbh. Unless you think the whole world should get involved at large. Which in that case, amplify the innocent death toll to unfathomable numbers.



Also I'll make a little edit to make it known I'm not saying Palestine is weak because I hate Muslim, or worship Israel because I think they are powerful. I despise this situation. What I'm saying is the evidence is on the table and clear. The US and Isreal clearly aren't going to stop. So what is the best solution? If you can find one that doesn't bring the innocent death toll to record numbers I'll actually be surprised.

You are taking the position that Israel is being fair and would treat surrender fairly.


The same Israel that is bombing, schools, hospitals, mosques, churches, refugee camps, bakeries and anything else.


They are not. They are an oppressive force that has broken hundreds of international laws.


Israel are the land invaders, the illegal occupiers.


Like I said, you're either for the genocide of Palestians or you aren't.


Israel have "arrested" thousands of Palestinians. They are held in military courts without trials and kept in prisons for years. Many are children who are taken. These men, women and children and then beaten and sodomized by Israeli guards.


This has been happening since before Oct 7th.


So no. Palestinians peacefully surrendering their land and homes will not end their suffering at the hands of Israelis.


You are extraordinarily ignorant of the real situation at hand but then try to play it off like there's an achievable middle ground.


This does not exist. You either want Palestinian genocide or you stand against it.

No, I want you to tell me the other hand of the situation. A situation with no innocent death that can exist within reality. That is your main argument right? The death of innocent people? Because we can all agree if Palestine was given the exact same power Isreal has, the tables would turn, and because of that the statistics of innocent death would continue to rise. So what is the solution?
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No. We cannot agree the tables would not turn. Because it absolutely would not. Israel is run by Fascists with a clear ethnic cleansing ideology.
Your islamaphobic rhetoric is no doubt as a result of consuming Zionist media for decades.
Palestinians lived in peace before "Israeli migrants" appeared.
Palestine comprised of Jews, Christians and Muslims living in harmony. So no, the tables would not turn. You live in the Star Wars empire friend and you don't even know it.
Israeli government should be charged for war crimes for the butcher of Palestinians (and their own citizens).
That's the first thing that should happen.
The settler movement in Israel needs to be disbanded and the Murderers within it put into jail is the next.
All stolen lands and properties to be returned to the Palestinians is the next step. There is a lot.
All apartheid laws abolished. Palestinians given back their genuine self governance again (so they can create a military, set their own laws etc)
That's the peaceful resolution.

See the problem with this is why you won't get your deal, you've only specified what Israel have to do and how it's all their fault. Where is the peace in that, you're on that attack. You do realize Israel doesn't have to have a ceasefire, they can have it on their terms because they have the fire power, they can eradicate Palestine. Why will they accept your terms, when they don't need to.

You're trying to pick fights you aren't equipped for. Strange behaviour.

Who said anything about Israel wanting to accept these proposals that I have made?

I was asked what the solution to stop violence is, I have answered it.

Nothing can be done until these war mongering bastards are rotting in jail. Nothing will be done because Israel are paying tens of millions to western politicians and own several hundred media outlets. Keeping sheep quiet.
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You going to tell us how you think women should wear Hijabs yeah? What else, you're right I'm not equipped for it, I know fuck all. Except Hijabs bad.
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Why does Hijab trigger ppl so much!? Baring in mind it is most assuredly not the only religion in which women -as well as men - are required some form of headware. I mean, nuns cover their heads no!? And until the 60s or so one could not enter a church without a hat at least. Also, Hijabs aren't specifically a "religious" parifinila as they are cultural/ethnic markers given every region with Muslim pupilation wears them differently if at all.
I mean really, it boggles my mind why ppl are so triggered by a Hijab? Is it because there's nothing to oogle on? Can't be the old worn out "oh, it's a symbol of oppression" because eif they were so oppressed, millions of of women wouldn't ware them. But nahhh, western society yet again has to impose their own value systhem on others as per usual!
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It's definitely a tool for oppressions for millions of Islam women. Even if half the population like it, it's still oppressive to the ones that don't and are forced to wear it. Islam treats women horribly, any denial of that is pure delusion and brainwashing. They treat non Islam women even worse too. There are many Islamic men who do believe that all women should wear a Hijab. An Islamic woman might not wear a Hijab, then might come a across a man who will treat her like dirt.

https://www.theguardian.com/global-development/2023/feb/06/iran-protesters-police-rapes-beatings-and-torture
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So let me get this straight, you are outraged over a Hijab as a symbol of oppression but deaths of over 11000 leave you unfazed. Got it!

With that said, since you are inclined on using most extreme example, below is a photo of Iranian women in the 70's.

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Shocking, I know! Why, what happened you might ask!? Well, we should ask C. 1. A. since this govermenet apparently didn't approve of their monarchy at the time, they worked really hard on overthrowing it counting on extremists to be much easier to control. But that never works out just right either, does it now!?

And since we are on this whole oppression bandwagon, selling ones own body on onlyfans in contrats is the opitomy of female liberation I gather then!?
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I think that there are some scary things that are going within our media and our laws, that make it more and more apparent that our freedom is an illusion only exist because people generally collectively believe it does.

Our government actively trying to ban and censor tiktok.

Kosa Bill - There is this bill that was originally aimed keeping children from accessing porn on the internet. But it was changed to say that the Attorney General of the state can deem what speech is appropriate for the internet, and give them the power to sue a website if they deem the content was harmful to chidren. On all of the internet. Like DXP has definitely not been safe for children, by this logic they should sue me directly, for all my tumblr porn and death threats I posted in 2014

This has passed the house it is still sitting in the Senate, and it has 46 out of 100 senators co-sponsors this bill. That is so fucking scary!!!

Also whatever law they just passed in NY, where it makes it legal to remove people from their homes to mandatory quarantine them, force them to take medication even experimental treatments. I know its out there and people are talking about it. But I just tried to look it up and google doesn’t want to show it to me. If anyone has more information please let me know. I mean.... maybe got wrong information on this, but I feel like maybe not.
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