Is it really about his star sign...

Posted by Neurotoxin
It's about upbringing.

That determines how a man treats women.

Not birthdate.

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Posted by sweethearts
Problem being...they don't recognise the Facts that they are part of the equation!!

You've summed up DXP in a nutshell

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Posted by djbuck1
I believe she is talking about people using astrology to justify/excuse/enable offensive behavior.

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Posted by sweethearts
What about what they have learnt they can get away with because the woman around them don't hold them accountable to any actions??

Women they are looking at concurring?

I don't think that's a real problem and I personally think that can often lead to a ruin to personal ruin for women who feel they need to focus on man's accountability. Unless you're in a marriage or you're someone's family.

Other than that, really most of it boils down to being accountable to your own self. Be it man or woman. If you're accountable to yourself then you have clear boundaries, and you know why, when and where you're accepting things into your life and on what grounds. It's hard enough to keep that account balanced, so there's no point getting distracted and trying to mother some man into seeing "the error of his ways".

We all have our own path and we walk it in our own time. Hopefully.

Having lived longer than most of you, I see a distinct shift in "tone." While I agree that each of us is personally accountable, it used to be that social pressure was directed towards adhering to norms of decent behavior. But a certain faction raised the failures to universally achieve such norms (which were ever aspirations-- goals-- not certainties) to discredit those norms and to introduce relativism.

A weaker person used to be able to summon those norms for support. Now, invoking them invites attack.

Decent, self-respecting behavior, and respect for others, is fast becoming an anachronism. We were once a society of standards. Now, we are a society of excuses.

Women will be treated as they demand to be treated. It seems that more and more women demand nothing at all-- except attention

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Posted by djbuck1
I believe she is talking about people using astrology to justify/excuse/enable offensive behavior.

I agree, and I hate when I see people on here giving horrible advice to women based on some asshole's sign. Yeah, it's an astrology site, but there are some things that should be obvious red flags for EVERYONE.

It's especially bad when the women here give ridiculously shitty advice just because they share the same sign as some jackass treating some poor girl like garbage. "He's a Scorpio! Of course he's going to go through your phone/demand to know where you are at all times/accuse you of cheating/interrogate you/stalk you/etc. YOU probably did something to make him that way!"

*barfs*

And as far as the "You probably did something to make him that way" Sorry, but I see too many people on here that won't take responsibility for their own fault, in their problems. About 60% of the Sign Board threads are a one sided blame fest. And just having that point of view is the first part of the problem, because that is not a relationship mentality.

But I think that really plays into how our society is changing. And part of that, is really facilitating a me based perspective.

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Posted by djbuck1
I believe she is talking about people using astrology to justify/excuse/enable offensive behavior.

I agree, and I hate when I see people on here giving horrible advice to women based on some asshole's sign. Yeah, it's an astrology site, but there are some things that should be obvious red flags for EVERYONE.

It's especially bad when the women here give ridiculously shitty advice just because they share the same sign as some jackass treating some poor girl like garbage. "He's a Scorpio! Of course he's going to go through your phone/demand to know where you are at all times/accuse you of cheating/interrogate you/stalk you/etc. YOU probably did something to make him that way!"

*barfs*

And as far as the "You probably did something to make him that way" Sorry, but I see too many people on here that won't take responsibility for their own fault, in their problems. About 60% of the Sign Board threads are a one sided blame fest. And just having that point of view is the first part of the problem, because that is not a relationship mentality.

But I think that really plays into how our society is changing. And part of that, is really facilitating a me based perspective.

I get that. We only have the OP's side of the story to go by, though. What I don't like is when these wannabe relationship guru bitches flat-out make shit up and act as though they're speaking for the other person in the equation. They'll often twist the OP's words around like crazy, fill in what they consider to be "holes" in the story with crazy accusations or assumptions, then try to act as though they're somehow helping by showing them "tough love" or giving "fair" advice. In reality, it's almost always just a bunch of bullshit conjecture with a few of the OP's words (often taken out of context) thrown in. I'm sorry, but that's just plain stupid and illogical.

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Posted by PiscVirgAquaFish
So much of it comes down to men/women either not knowing what they want, or refusing to set standards and making excuses for bad behavior. Also the myth that if you love a person enough they will magically become who you want them to be.

Posted by djbuck1
Women will be treated as they demand to be treated. It seems that more and more women demand nothing at all-- except attention

Posted by Neurotoxin

Posted by tiziani
DJ for the most part I will have to take your word for it since there is no real comprehensive way I could understand.

However the last part does ring true. I saw a thread on here yesterday in the Scorpio forum from a woman who declared there's been some sort of immense change in her Scorpio love interest just because he'd cried and sent her a few messages over facebook and instagram.

LOL that's every third post over there.

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Posted by robyn808
I'll agree Purr.

There have been plenty of responses and advice given that make me cringe. And I see a lot of abuse of or misuse of Astrology. And I think we are definitely doing a disservice to the study when we state things as facts, especially when you just addressing a Sun sign in regards to a particular person.

I'll often give a perspective as a Taurus, (hell, I got a lot of it). But I limit my response to address the motivations that are associated with that sign, and I really limit my own personal personal prospective. Because what I would do in that situation or how I would feel, is also strongly influenced by Gemini, Virgo, and Libra, and a few other strongly positioned aspects, I can even see how that 9th house stellium tends to lean me in certain directions. So I stay conscious of all that, and stick to astrology when I answer. But it can be comical to hear other people be so admit, "that they're this sign, and this is how they are, so this is how that sign is!" lol, ok!

And I guess my whole point is.. I'm really getting sick and tired of the lack of Astrology discussions, and shitty astrology discussions. And just the overall interest in shitty discussions in general. I know that's always been apart of DXP charm, but damn its seems like its getting worse and worse and worse. And I don't know if its just me. Maybe this new Virgo Progressed moon is affecting me in a shitty way. Maybe its always been this bad, I've just reached the point where I've gotten all I can get from this place as far as astrology is concerned.

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Posted by sweethearts
What about what they have learnt they can get away with because the woman around them don't hold them accountable to any actions??

Women they are looking at concurring?

I don't think that's a real problem and I personally think that can often lead to a ruin to personal ruin for women who feel they need to focus on man's accountability. Unless you're in a marriage or you're someone's family.

Other than that, really most of it boils down to being accountable to your own self. Be it man or woman. If you're accountable to yourself then you have clear boundaries, and you know why, when and where you're accepting things into your life and on what grounds. It's hard enough to keep that account balanced, so there's no point getting distracted and trying to mother some man into seeing "the error of his ways".

We all have our own path and we walk it in our own time. Hopefully.

Having lived longer than most of you, I see a distinct shift in "tone." While I agree that each of us is personally accountable, it used to be that social pressure was directed towards adhering to norms of decent behavior. But a certain faction raised the failures to universally achieve such norms (which were ever aspirations-- goals-- not certainties) to discredit those norms and to introduce relativism.

A weaker person used to be able to summon those norms for support. Now, invoking them invites attack.

Decent, self-respecting behavior, and respect for others, is fast becoming an anachronism. We were once a society of standards. Now, we are a society of excuses.

Women will be treated as they demand to be treated. It seems that more and more women demand nothing at all-- except attention

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Yes, it's really sad and disgusting. Even on here, just observing some of the vulgar, disrespectful shit the men get away with saying when they're "flirting" with the women grosses me out. And the women just get all giggly. "Teehee, he said he wants to rape me and film it!" *swoons*

Women try wayyyyyy too fucking hard to play the role of the "cool girlfriend" who'