is twerking an appropriate or inappropriate dance?

This topic was created in the Miscellaneous forum by rabidtalker on Saturday, October 7, 2017 and has 17 replies.
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/4629337/twerking-teen-shakes-up-tv-talent-show-with-an-outrageous-dance-routine-cheered-on-by-her-dad/

TWERKING UP A STORMTwerking teen sparks furious debate after shaking up TV Talent show with an outrageous dance routine cheered on by her dad

Sara Seifert, 18, from Vukovar, Croatia, shocked judges and viewers with her bum-wiggling performance on the country's Super Talent show

Sara Seifert, 18, from Vukovar, Croatia, shocked judges and viewers with her bum-wiggling performance on the country's Super Talent show - a version of popular British show Got Talent with Simon Cowell. She walked onto the stage, wearing a blonde wig and a black dinner jacket, and sat down at a white piano as if to play a piece of classical music. But Miss Seifert then whipped off her jacket, to reveal that she was wearing ultra-short shorts underneath, as a dance music beat began to play.

As the camera focused on the teenager's behind, she began to twitch her buttocks in time to the music as the judges looked on open-mouthed. The teenager then leapt to her feet, discarding her wig, and - facing away from the audience - launched into a raunchy dance performance.Twerking her bum throughout, at one point on her knees, the panel looked stunned with judge Maja Suput putting her hands on her head in shock.

Miss Seifert's performance - and the way her smiling father was seen giving her raunchy performance the thumbs up - has sparked a national debate online. But the teenager said that she did not see anything controversial in her father's actions as her parents always supported her in whatever she did.Miss Seifert said she had expected a reaction to her routine but had been taken aback by the amount of criticism she and her father had received.

"Twerking is not easy, I never had any previous experience in dancing before. People should appreciate my efforts," she said.

She added that she had learnt to twerk by watching videos on YouTube and had been practising six days a week for four years to perfect her moves. Miss Seifert says that she intends to carry on twerking and revealed that she wanted to move to Ireland as her brother was living in Dublin.



Posted by aquarius_man
you're quoting from the sun and ask what's appropriate?

#boycotthesun
haha, making conversation, plus the video is a fun watch. but regardless of the source, is it appropriate or no?

Posted by aquarius_man
Posted by rabidtalker. But Miss Seifert then whipped off her jacket, to reveal that she was wearing ultra-short shorts underneath, as a dance music beat began to play.

As the camera focused on the teenager's behind, she began to twitch her buttocks in time to the music

i liked it quite a lot, to be honest. very good link Big Grin Big Grin smile)

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Apparently it caused a nationwide debate, the reactions especially from the older women was that it was offensive. Maybe this is already so mainstream in western culture that it is not worth debate.

Posted by aquarius_man
Posted by rabidtalker
Posted by aquarius_man
you're quoting from the sun and ask what's appropriate?

#boycotthesun
haha, making conversation, plus the video is a fun watch. but regardless of the source, is it appropriate or no?

i would say it s appropriate. i like it.


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Except it's not a 'dance' - it's more of a pre-porn act. And 'appropriate' for what? Kids parties? No! Adult parties - why not?

Everything can be labeled.

You don't take children to an adult stores right? That's it...
Posted by aquarius_man
you're quoting from the sun and ask what's appropriate?

#boycotthesun
Sun didn't make it up!

Arenyou saying anything Sun publishes is not appropriate?
Contracting your vaginal walls will be considered a skill in the future.
Posted by Koniuchaa
Ugh gross

She is doing sexual moves and her dad is cheering her on. How is this even remotely ok??
It's not okay at all.....I agree
Posted by rabidtalker
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/4629337/twerking-teen-shakes-up-tv-talent-show-with-an-outrageous-dance-routine-cheered-on-by-her-dad/

TWERKING UP A STORMTwerking teen sparks furious debate after shaking up TV Talent show with an outrageous dance routine cheered on by her dad

Sara Seifert, 18, from Vukovar, Croatia, shocked judges and viewers with her bum-wiggling performance on the country's Super Talent show

Sara Seifert, 18, from Vukovar, Croatia, shocked judges and viewers with her bum-wiggling performance on the country's Super Talent show - a version of popular British show Got Talent with Simon Cowell. She walked onto the stage, wearing a blonde wig and a black dinner jacket, and sat down at a white piano as if to play a piece of classical music. But Miss Seifert then whipped off her jacket, to reveal that she was wearing ultra-short shorts underneath, as a dance music beat began to play.

As the camera focused on the teenager's behind, she began to twitch her buttocks in time to the music as the judges looked on open-mouthed. The teenager then leapt to her feet, discarding her wig, and - facing away from the audience - launched into a raunchy dance performance.Twerking her bum throughout, at one point on her knees, the panel looked stunned with judge Maja Suput putting her hands on her head in shock.

Miss Seifert's performance - and the way her smiling father was seen giving her raunchy performance the thumbs up - has sparked a national debate online. But the teenager said that she did not see anything controversial in her father's actions as her parents always supported her in whatever she did.Miss Seifert said she had expected a reaction to her routine but had been taken aback by the amount of criticism she and her father had received.

"Twerking is not easy, I never had any previous experience in dancing before. People should appreciate my efforts," she said.

She added that she had learnt to twerk by watching videos on YouTube and had been practising six days a week for four years to perfect her moves. Miss Seifert says that she intends to carry on twerking and revealed that she wanted to move to Ireland as her brother was living in Dublin.





wow i'm like the woman who was in the judge panel in SHOCK.

hey why not? if it's a talent sure.


it's funny how the other guy in the judge panel wasn't impressed. i guess he dont like it Confused


Posted by Koniuchaa
Posted by edgelord
Posted by Koniuchaa
Ugh gross

She is doing sexual moves and her dad is cheering her on. How is this even remotely ok??
i didn't know certain scorpios were such prudes.Laughing
Dad cheering on his daughter while doing sexual poses? That’s disturbing
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i'm always creeped out about that.

Posted by MyStarsShine
Posted by Koniuchaa
Ugh gross

She is doing sexual moves and her dad is cheering her on. How is this even remotely ok??
It's not okay at all.....I agree
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i would NOT want my father or grandfahter or uncle to read any of my erotic novels.

(thank god they're not into that stuff)


it's just too creepy.

i wonder how E.L. James feels about writing her "50 shades of Grey" ...i bet she doesn't give a copy to her dad.


or those playboy centerfolds, who pose nude ...it's just too creepy to have your father look at that.

way too inappropriate. i'm super conservative like you both.
It's inappropriate no matter what is popular in western culture. The father cheering on is most inappropriate. He should be encouraging her to continue dancing (she's obviously athletic) or gymnastics or something less sexual. I just dont think its the avenue of support a father needs to explore with his daughter. I think it's pretty sick really. Exploitative. There is just so much more she could be doing for herself. And to go on TV like that ... just wow... is that what you want to be known for?? i hope she has a strong female support group to encourage her to empower herself in other ways. Sure if she likes this she could do burlesque or something in her private time but unless she wants to make a career out of shaking her ass... this aint the way....
There are worse dances then that....

A quick YouTube search of "dance challenge"

will prove that.
Posted by lisabethur8
Posted by MyStarsShine
Posted by Koniuchaa
Ugh gross

She is doing sexual moves and her dad is cheering her on. How is this even remotely ok??
It's not okay at all.....I agree
i would NOT want my father or grandfahter or uncle to read any of my erotic novels.

(thank god they're not into that stuff)


it's just too creepy.

i wonder how E.L. James feels about writing her "50 shades of Grey" ...i bet she doesn't give a copy to her dad.


or those playboy centerfolds, who pose nude ...it's just too creepy to have your father look at that.

way too inappropriate. i'm super conservative like you both.
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Yes Lisa......too weird, for sure
i just had a thought...she said she'd been practicing for four years.... so, when she was 14 years old for 6 days a week?? 14 years old with her dad cheering on? Confused that's ...soooo creepy. i think it would be cool like what abbynormal said, if she was pracitcing dance moves maybe moon walky or something or something similar, or even gymnastics, but with her dad cheering on at 14 twerking?
Can non black people stop policing our culture ? Our hair is inappropriate, our dances, our music, our style s, our way of speaking, our skin color, next what ? Us living is inappropriate as well?? Twerking existed for thousands of years, and it was always okay among us. But since Miley Cyrus you guys think it was invented in 2012 and that it's for strippers... In western countries women's butt are oversexualized (IDK if it's because of anal sex or whatever) but for such reason, you can't even see twerking as what it is really => moving a body part, like an arm or a leg. The only thing that sexualize the dance in this video is the girl's clothes or lack thereof.
Posted by Arielle83

Did it originate in Louisiana?
Found some cool stuff on it:

http://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-33265370

It says the word in its current form has its roots in the early 1990s New Orleans "bounce" music scene, but the exact origin of twerk is uncertain.
http://nypost.com/2015/06/25/twerkings-origins-go-back-200-years/

She said the word as a description of a dance has its roots in the 1990s New Orleans music scene.
https://www.xojane.com/issues/the-origins-of-twerking

Its current iteration is commonly associated with the New Orleans bounce scene, however growing up in London I immediately associate it with the Dancehall scene.

If people took the time to explore the root of what’s been dubbed as the “twerk,” they’d realise its origins lie in West Africa. It’s strikingly similar to the Mapouka dance from Côte d'Ivoire, a dance done by women that focuses on the buttocks. It’s existed for centuries.

If we view twerking through a Western prism, we’ll interpret it as being sexual, scandalous and controversial. However when you place it in its original context you’ll realise it’s a cultural expression of joy, with its function being primarily celebratory rather than for sexual provocation. Growing up, I saw it most frequently performed during joyful occasions -- family gatherings and weddings. There was nothing scandalous about it, it was simply dancing.
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The last link has a whole background and discourse on it, it's pretty interesting read.

I think there is something similar to twerking coming from africa, older than the american version. Can't remember the name