Isn't it time beauty pageants should stop?

This topic was created in the Miscellaneous forum by Capricorn91 on Saturday, February 18, 2017 and has 15 replies.
Beauty pageants glorify the outer beauty and not the person as a whole. There is no need for a swimsuit segment there. But still people are continuing these. They rarely focus on the cerebral part of the person. It is all about objectification.
Money maker. Definitely won't stop
Anything with showbiz/media sells based on how beautiful or sexually appealing it is. It's not like news anchors are solely hired on how proficient they are with articulating themselves.
I think people need to stand against these things. A person dressed appropriately for the job and and having the required skills should be promoted rather than just outer beauty. It is too shallow. I know glamour sells but people don't realize it is just like getting drunk. They are setting a wrong example for the future generations and not encouraging other aspects of a person's character.
Posted by Redbull
I dont know. I saw most of this year's miss Universe. Looks were involved but it was also about what they were doing, how they answered questions, etc. which went into it. Even as a spectator I took all that into account. There are elements of the "whole picture".
Is there a need for looks? They are looking for a role model not a swimsuit model. The person should have a good character. A swimsuit round doesn't show that or may be am not able to get the deep meaning behind it.
Posted by Capricorn91
Beauty pageants glorify the outer beauty and not the person as a whole. There is no need for a swimsuit segment there. But still people are continuing these. They rarely focus on the cerebral part of the person. It is all about objectification.
So don't watch it! I don't! So I have no problem with outer beauty!

Inner is too hard to find so outer is right there - enjoy! Or not...

Wtf? World problem...the biggest one!

Beauty pageants! I wish.

Don't you???
Posted by Gemitati
Posted by Capricorn91
Beauty pageants glorify the outer beauty and not the person as a whole. There is no need for a swimsuit segment there. But still people are continuing these. They rarely focus on the cerebral part of the person. It is all about objectification.
So don't watch it! I don't! So I have no problem with outer beauty!

Inner is too hard to find so outer is right there - enjoy! Or not...

Wtf? World problem...the biggest one!

Beauty pageants! I wish.

Don't you???
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I don't. But just that you don't see something it isn't wrong. It isn't like if you don't look it will go away. It is not difficult to focus on the person for who he/she is. You can't be this shallow.
Posted by Capricorn91
Posted by Gemitati
Posted by Capricorn91
Beauty pageants glorify the outer beauty and not the person as a whole. There is no need for a swimsuit segment there. But still people are continuing these. They rarely focus on the cerebral part of the person. It is all about objectification.
So don't watch it! I don't! So I have no problem with outer beauty!

Inner is too hard to find so outer is right there - enjoy! Or not...

Wtf? World problem...the biggest one!

Beauty pageants! I wish.

Don't you???
I don't. But just that you don't see something it isn't wrong. It isn't like if you don't look it will go away. It is not difficult to focus on the person for who he/she is. You can't be this shallow.
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Why not? I can.
Posted by starwars
Posted by Capricorn91
Beauty pageants glorify the outer beauty and not the person as a whole. There is no need for a swimsuit segment there. But still people are continuing these. They rarely focus on the cerebral part of the person. It is all about objectification.
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Posted by Capricorn91
Beauty pageants glorify the outer beauty and not the person as a whole. There is no need for a swimsuit segment there. But still people are continuing these. They rarely focus on the cerebral part of the person. It is all about objectification.
So don't watch it! I don't! So I have no problem with outer beauty!

Inner is too hard to find so outer is right there - enjoy! Or not...

Wtf? World problem...the biggest one!

Beauty pageants! I wish.

Don't you???
I don't. But just that you don't see something it isn't wrong. It isn't like if you don't look it will go away. It is not difficult to focus on the person for who he/she is. You can't be this shallow.
Why not? I can.
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Are you still in your teens?
Posted by d0s3r
i mean if u wanna look the "cerebral part" just go watch spelling bee or countdown
I did not mean to look for math wizards. And beauty doesn't need to be shown through a swimsuit segment. Do you really find no issue with it? What are you trying to promote with that? Fitness? Still not needed.
I think the problem with b. pageants has more to do with sexism and stereotypes, narrow minded ppl thinking beauty is represented by one type of person (woman).


But is still important; we all are attracted to it, to deny it is hypocrisy. However, the concept of beauty is wide, a face, a body, personality, mind, a landscape, feelings, a poem.
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Posted by Blackburn
I think the problem with b. pageants has more to do with sexism and stereotypes, narrow minded ppl thinking beauty is represented by one type of person (woman).


But is still important; we all are attracted to it, to deny it is hypocrisy. However, the concept of beauty is wide, a face, a body, personality, mind, a landscape, feelings, a poem.
They are fiercely sleazy. Sexual harassment is par of the course...the entrance fee is how they make most of their money and there is largely no benefit to the women who enter. It's a business that treats women like cattle. Anyone who says or thinks otherwise is mistaken. And some of the things that go on are down right immoral.


Humans are not cattle. It's deeply immoral to think any way else.
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Of course, I haven't defended this "contests", I despise them as you can tell by my words.

What I'm explaining is that this has nothing to do with beauty, is just a bussiness, and that beauty is more than flesh, and is important, outer, inner and all kinds.

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Posted by Blackburn
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Posted by Blackburn
I think the problem with b. pageants has more to do with sexism and stereotypes, narrow minded ppl thinking beauty is represented by one type of person (woman).


But is still important; we all are attracted to it, to deny it is hypocrisy. However, the concept of beauty is wide, a face, a body, personality, mind, a landscape, feelings, a poem.
They are fiercely sleazy. Sexual harassment is par of the course...the entrance fee is how they make most of their money and there is largely no benefit to the women who enter. It's a business that treats women like cattle. Anyone who says or thinks otherwise is mistaken. And some of the things that go on are down right immoral.


Humans are not cattle. It's deeply immoral to think any way else.


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Of course, I haven't defended this "contests", I despise them as you can tell by my words.

What I'm explaining is that this has anything to do with beauty, is just a bussiness, and that beauty is more than flesh, and is important, outer, inner and all kinds.

In europe and Russia the teen ones are criminal...they have 14 yrs olds posing in underwear
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I think what's criminal is a society which promotes beauty as women main asset. If this disappeared, beauty pageants and all this crap would disappear as well. System must change.


But when do I have supported this? I'm just theorizing about beauty as a concept which includes many areas.

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Posted by Capricorn91
Posted by d0s3r
i mean if u wanna look the "cerebral part" just go watch spelling bee or countdown
I did not mean to look for math wizards. And beauty doesn't need to be shown through a swimsuit segment. Do you really find no issue with it? What are you trying to promote with that? Fitness? Still not needed.
beauty is subjective, but there are also beauty standards which are relative to culture

beauty is to be celebrated. you can celebrate it perhaps too much. you are suggesting to not celebrate it at all,

why

you do not look more deep than others pretending to not care about beauty. you seem miserable.

it is miserable to avoid looking in the mirror lest you be vain

you also deprive yourself of sexual attraction pretending to not prioritise looks in a relationship

you can appreciate looks and mind

but a beauty pageant doesn't care about the mind

much like how countdown doesn't care about beauty (apart from carol vorderman - but she likes to be beautiful. her perogative)
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Just don't say this to the promoters "beauty pageant doesn't care about the mind" they will lose their business.


It seems all too shallow to appease the hormonal boys and men to get money. Am just against the objectification on the basis of beauty and there is no need for swimsuit rounds. Are you saying those 40+ year old judges need to see a woman in a swimsuit to judge her beautiful?


Also you are born a certain way you can't change your physical features as such but still you will be judged on that. Don't you see the wrong in here?

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