Las vegas shooter was an aries millionaire

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http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/las-vegas-shooter-mandalay-bay-11274824

this guy is puzzling, no one knows why he did what he did, he had a good life, lots of money, retired, lady friends. But something turned sideways in his head and now here he are. anyways...

Paddock, born 4/9/1953, lived in a three-year-old, 396,000 dollar (£297,554) two-bedroom home in Nevada, US records show.

According to his brother Eric: "he's just a guy who played video poker and took cruises and ate burritos at Taco Bell."

Stephen was described by officials as a "local man" who apparently acted alone.

He is thought to have been a grandad.

He previously worked as an accountant but was also an avid real estate investor.

He owned apartments and houses around Orlando, Florida.

His brother Eric said: ""My brother is not like you and me. He plays high-stakes video poker.

"He sends me a text that says he won $ 250,000 at the casino."

However, there was no hint he owed anyone money as his brother even showed authorities three years of text messages today.



until we find more info, this is the weirdest massacre yet. and oh yeah ISIS falsely claimed it ASAP.

i was watching the CNN coverage on it just now...

my condolences to those who lost loved ones.
Posted by lisabethur8
i was watching the CNN coverage on it just now...

my condolences to those who lost loved ones.
I was awake when the news broke, I just thought, wow a few people got shot that sucks, then went to sleep. When I woke up, I found out the major casualties, that REALLY sucks, and I share my condolences too.

madness plain and simple. The loss of life is heartbreaking, my city is not the same and never will be.

Tell people you love them, you never know if you will lose that chance.
@damnata and @ellesbelles both reached out to make sure I was okay and that was what woke me up at 3 in the morning. I had no idea. I was humbled by those two showing how much they cared for a person they meet on dxp.

Love you girls.
Posted by ellesbelles
@justagirl

We had a Starbucks adventure together.....you are now a permanent fixture in my life...lol Big Grin

*cheers*

Drinks
Posted by justagirl

Tell people you love them, you never know if you will lose that chance.
Or if they will shoot up a place cuz you didn't lol
Posted by enfant_terrible
Posted by justagirl

Tell people you love them, you never know if you will lose that chance.
Or if they will shoot up a place cuz you didn't lol
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Not funny dude.



Posted by bittercupcake
I don't think he was the only shooter or 'the' shooter. Watching the videos and listening to the audio - it sounds like there was more than one weapon being fired. Plus there are so many inconsistencies ...
interesting theory, will see if anyone else believes in this on other sites.

Posted by rabidtalker
Posted by bittercupcake
I don't think he was the only shooter or 'the' shooter. Watching the videos and listening to the audio - it sounds like there was more than one weapon being fired. Plus there are so many inconsistencies ...
interesting theory, will see if anyone else believes in this on other sites.

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They claim it's echoes but I dunno man, those widows are super far apart and yes it was a huge suite of rooms but running back and forth? Ya there is gaps in the gunfire but not sure it's enough to account for that distance.

Apparently he had cameras set up in and outside th room? How could housekeeping miss that shit? It doesn't add up. Or that part that came out today is fabricated.

It's hard to know what's up because so many people called 911 reporting gunfire at several hotels because you couldn't tell what direction it was coming from.

All I know of several of my friends where there,and had to run for the lives and are really messed up after witnessing people next to them being shot. So far my close peeps are accounted for, a co worker for my prior company was a victim. Sad

I am dreading the full list of names.



Firstly I am genuinely sorry. For anyone who lost anyone or is hurt. Or even if it just brought up icky feelings. I think we are all disturbed.


Posted by topes
His brother seemed somewhat candid when interviewed about the situation.

Strange..
I don't think he was candid at all. I thought he was avoidant and nervous.
They are saying he may have left a note.It has been suggested debts, a relationship collapse, or his family history may have contributed to the his drive to kill.

His Dad was a bank robber ..not a loving stable environment.
I did his chart.

Sun Aries 19°40'

Moon Aquarius 24°01'

Mercury Pisces 22°56'

Venus Aries 25°17' R

Mars Taurus 14°52'

Jupiter Taurus 23°15'

Saturn Libra 24°18' R

Uranus Cancer 14°34'

Neptune Libra 22°36' R

Pluto Leo 20°54' R

Lilith Virgo 11°57'

Asc node Aquarius 9°52'
Sun Square Uranus
It's an incredible amount of premeditation to go undetected ..i wonder did the fact he was a high roller mean he was left to do as he pleased a bit...
I'm sickened how the news is constantly saying "this was not a terrorist attack". Bullshit.

Just cause the shooter doesn't fit your rhetoric of brown skin does not mean this wasn't terroism. Uggghhh 😩😩😩
Posted by LittleFairy
i wonder did the fact he was a high roller mean he was left to do as he pleased a bit...
What do you mean?

If he worked alone, it's very easy to go undetected. There is little to almost no risk of a "leakage" of info.

Posted by LadyNeptune
I'm sickened how the news is constantly saying "this was not a terrorist attack". Bullshit.

Just cause the shooter doesn't fit your rhetoric of brown skin does not mean this wasn't terroism. Uggghhh 😩😩😩
Agreed ...but a different kind of terrorism perhaps

He has no guerilla vision which we can dilute or neutralize and certainly no supporters.

Guerilla warfare's key tactic is local support if they feel they don't have it they become afraid. So locals condemn and get aggressive media campaigns support alternative or matching visions.

What was he afraid of and what was his vision?

My advice to Americans is to make clear all Americans think this man is disgusting and as a tribe he is your enemy and not one of you. It will dissuade a forming vision built on anger or apathy.

Also that you are garnering support from the hotel industry in preempting this.
Dude, that video of this brother weirded me out. That guy is a terrible actor. Maybe it was a combo of being on camera and just flabbergasted by what his brother did in Vegas, but it was really strange how he was acting.

Makes one wonder if he really did know what was up. *shrugs*
Posted by LadyNeptune
I'm sickened how the news is constantly saying "this was not a terrorist attack". Bullshit.

Just cause the shooter doesn't fit your rhetoric of brown skin does not mean this wasn't terroism. Uggghhh 😩😩😩
Right?

Prior to 9/11 it was used quite often when white guys went off on the deep end with their crazy.

Now, not so much.

Dumbing down of Americans over the decades has been a success.
The shooter shared a birthday with Hef.

Maybe he was upset over the loss...? "Mah spirit animal died."

Bad joke, but I just realized that when you posted the shooter's bday. Both were millionaires too.
Posted by Ram416
Posted by LittleFairy
i wonder did the fact he was a high roller mean he was left to do as he pleased a bit...
What do you mean?

If he worked alone, it's very easy to go undetected. There is little to almost no risk of a "leakage" of info.

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No it's not ...not in hotels i have worked in them here ...metal detectors and screening at doors are routine here ..dunno about the states ..plus people watch for suspicious baggage etc ..
Posted by bittercupcake
I don't think he was the only shooter or 'the' shooter. Watching the videos and listening to the audio - it sounds like there was more than one weapon being fired. Plus there are so many inconsistencies ...
Sweetie, that was the echos. That and the speed of sound vs distance involved.
They have cctv rooms ....cameras would have seen a guy walking with a gun ..and he would not have been able to get on the roof ..
Posted by LittleFairy
They have cctv rooms ....cameras would have seen a guy walking with a gun ..and he would not have been able to get on the roof ..


He was known at the hotel (high-roller). He wasn't on the roof, he was in a suite. He had been there for 4 days, easy to bring in everything in bags on multiple trips.

Posted by LittleFairy
Posted by Ram416
Posted by LittleFairy
i wonder did the fact he was a high roller mean he was left to do as he pleased a bit...
What do you mean?

If he worked alone, it's very easy to go undetected. There is little to almost no risk of a "leakage" of info.

No it's not ...not in hotels i have worked in them here ...metal detectors and screening at doors are routine here ..dunno about the states ..plus people watch for suspicious baggage etc ..
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You've worked in Vegas hotels?

Yeah, that's what I thought.

You're doing that foreigner shit you just said people do in Ireland. Stop pls. Kthx.
Posted by LittleFairy
Posted by Ram416
Posted by LittleFairy
i wonder did the fact he was a high roller mean he was left to do as he pleased a bit...
What do you mean?

If he worked alone, it's very easy to go undetected. There is little to almost no risk of a "leakage" of info.

No it's not ...not in hotels i have worked in them here ...metal detectors and screening at doors are routine here ..dunno about the states ..plus people watch for suspicious baggage etc ..
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Vegas casinos/hotels have very few metal detectors. The Las Vegas strip has 31 casinos/hotels along the Las Vegas Blvd.

I am assuming they will have them moving forward. I already dispised going down there as a local, only time I visit is company events or friends in town... i have lived here 16 years and was never super fearful of going down there, now i am.
Posted by LittleFairy
They have cctv rooms ....cameras would have seen a guy walking with a gun ..and he would not have been able to get on the roof ..
He was in one of the suites on the 32nd floor. not the roof. He didn't walk through the casino/hotel with guns in the open, he brought them inside luggage.
Posted by Ram416
Posted by LittleFairy
i wonder did the fact he was a high roller mean he was left to do as he pleased a bit...
What do you mean?

If he worked alone, it's very easy to go undetected. There is little to almost no risk of a "leakage" of info.

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Having a co-operative doesn't leak info ...you don't know what or who the other cell is ...they don't know you or what you do ...you just know how you are trained..

You can think of a collective as ..Isis ..or the green book ..or the info being disseminated illegally without care etc...

The truth is ...he didn't not act alone...but those who aided him did not know what they were doing. But were careless.

He exploited people's ignorance about him. He exploited ignorance about his plans.

He was also comfortable people would be ignorant.

He shot himself .....obv to avoid the disappointment of arrest...disappointment on being arrested is a huge deterrent ..not because of fear of prison ..but the DOWNER affect ...it breaks people

If they had caught him alive ..it would have deterred other shooters...shrink him ....propaganda
Posted by rockyroadicecream
Posted by LittleFairy
Posted by Ram416
Posted by LittleFairy
i wonder did the fact he was a high roller mean he was left to do as he pleased a bit...
What do you mean?

If he worked alone, it's very easy to go undetected. There is little to almost no risk of a "leakage" of info.

No it's not ...not in hotels i have worked in them here ...metal detectors and screening at doors are routine here ..dunno about the states ..plus people watch for suspicious baggage etc ..
You've worked in Vegas hotels?

Yeah, that's what I thought.

You're doing that foreigner shit you just said people do in Ireland. Stop pls. Kthx.
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Calm down. Irish hotels. They have them here. I was surprised you don't have them there. We have them at concerts here too..

For example YOU WILL be felt up and down on entering a concert any concert here and go through metal detector ...your bags can be searched

That has been going on as long as i can remember...
Posted by justagirl
Posted by LittleFairy
Posted by Ram416
Posted by LittleFairy
i wonder did the fact he was a high roller mean he was left to do as he pleased a bit...
What do you mean?

If he worked alone, it's very easy to go undetected. There is little to almost no risk of a "leakage" of info.

No it's not ...not in hotels i have worked in them here ...metal detectors and screening at doors are routine here ..dunno about the states ..plus people watch for suspicious baggage etc ..
Vegas casinos/hotels have very few metal detectors. The Las Vegas strip has 31 casinos/hotels along the Las Vegas Blvd.


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I find that incredible. Any big public event and a lot of public places have them ...lighting cameras etc

Even our main university UCD was built in design to counter terrorist attack ..
Posted by justagirl
Posted by LittleFairy
They have cctv rooms ....cameras would have seen a guy walking with a gun ..and he would not have been able to get on the roof ..
He was in one of the suites on the 32nd floor. not the roof. He didn't walk through the casino/hotel with guns in the open, he brought them inside luggage.
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He mounted cameras though...outside the room ..
Posted by LittleFairy
Posted by justagirl
Posted by LittleFairy
Posted by Ram416
Posted by LittleFairy
i wonder did the fact he was a high roller mean he was left to do as he pleased a bit...
What do you mean?

If he worked alone, it's very easy to go undetected. There is little to almost no risk of a "leakage" of info.

No it's not ...not in hotels i have worked in them here ...metal detectors and screening at doors are routine here ..dunno about the states ..plus people watch for suspicious baggage etc ..
Vegas casinos/hotels have very few metal detectors. The Las Vegas strip has 31 casinos/hotels along the Las Vegas Blvd.


I find that incredible. Any big public event and a lot of public places have them ...lighting cameras etc

Even our main university UCD was built in design to counter terrorist attack ..
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The concert venues have them, and yes you get patted down, bags checked, etc etc that's the norm everywhere for the most part.

Articles that touches on this topic if you want to read.

http://www.foxnews.com/travel/2017/10/03/las-vegas-shooting-security-experts-on-what-hotels-can-do-to-prevent-another-tragedy.html


https://www.reviewjournal.com/local/the-strip/las-vegas-strip-massacre-will-force-hotels-to-rethink-security/
@rockyroadicecream

I am not getting at America at all. I don't mean to annoy you or upset you.
Posted by LittleFairy
Posted by justagirl
Posted by LittleFairy
They have cctv rooms ....cameras would have seen a guy walking with a gun ..and he would not have been able to get on the roof ..
He was in one of the suites on the 32nd floor. not the roof. He didn't walk through the casino/hotel with guns in the open, he brought them inside luggage.
He mounted cameras though...outside the room ..
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not sure if this will help explain better. it was from one of the local papers here

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he had a huge suite of rooms and from what they reported he had cameras near the door to the bedrooms and in the rooms itself. Still unsure about outisde.

All that has been reported is that he had cameras, the fbi has them currently. This whole thing is just crazy and it sounds as if he wasn't having maids or anyone inside, there was a food cart left outside the main room door with a camera on it.

Edit : found this

Before his attack from his hotel room, Paddock set up two cameras outside of his room, including on a service cart in the hallway.

Another camera was placed inside of the hotel room door's peephole. Lombardo noted he wasn't aware of any transmission from the cameras.
Posted by justagirl
Posted by LittleFairy
Posted by justagirl
Posted by LittleFairy
They have cctv rooms ....cameras would have seen a guy walking with a gun ..and he would not have been able to get on the roof ..
He was in one of the suites on the 32nd floor. not the roof. He didn't walk through the casino/hotel with guns in the open, he brought them inside luggage.
He mounted cameras though...outside the room ..
not sure if this will help explain better. it was from one of the local papers here

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he had a huge suite of rooms and from what they reported he had cameras near the door to the bedrooms and in the rooms itself. Still unsure about outisde.

All that has been reported is that he had cameras, the fbi has them currently. This whole thing is just crazy and it sounds as if he wasn't having maids or anyone inside, there was a food cart left outside the main room door.
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That's what I thought ...left to his own ..you have to let maids in here ..they would know something was up if you didn't ..usually it's prostitution or drugs though..
Posted by LittleFairy
Posted by justagirl
Posted by LittleFairy
Posted by justagirl
Posted by LittleFairy
They have cctv rooms ....cameras would have seen a guy walking with a gun ..and he would not have been able to get on the roof ..
He was in one of the suites on the 32nd floor. not the roof. He didn't walk through the casino/hotel with guns in the open, he brought them inside luggage.
He mounted cameras though...outside the room ..
not sure if this will help explain better. it was from one of the local papers here

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he had a huge suite of rooms and from what they reported he had cameras near the door to the bedrooms and in the rooms itself. Still unsure about outisde.

All that has been reported is that he had cameras, the fbi has them currently. This whole thing is just crazy and it sounds as if he wasn't having maids or anyone inside, there was a food cart left outside the main room door.
That's what I thought ...left to his own ..you have to let maids in here ..they would know something was up if you didn't ..usually it's prostitution or drugs though..
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Naw, you hang a do not disturb sign on the door and they will leave you be. Many folks come to vegas to have a good time and they party late into the night, so they do that so they can sleep in etc. Order roomn service and they will leave it at the door if that is your request or just give you the cart at the door itself. then you leave it outside to be picked up later.
Posted by LittleFairy
Posted by LadyNeptune
I'm sickened how the news is constantly saying "this was not a terrorist attack". Bullshit.

Just cause the shooter doesn't fit your rhetoric of brown skin does not mean this wasn't terroism. Uggghhh 😩😩😩
Agreed ...but a different kind of terrorism perhaps

He has no guerilla vision which we can dilute or neutralize and certainly no supporters.

Guerilla warfare's key tactic is local support if they feel they don't have it they become afraid. So locals condemn and get aggressive media campaigns support alternative or matching visions.

What was he afraid of and what was his vision?

My advice to Americans is to make clear all Americans think this man is disgusting and as a tribe he is your enemy and not one of you. It will dissuade a forming vision built on anger or apathy.

Also that you are garnering support from the hotel industry in preempting this.
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No one asked for your advice...

Wtf is guerilla warfare? And wtf does it have to do with this topic??!

Calling a dead man disgusting isn't going to change what happened or keep it from happening again. Nice try Bambi.
Posted by LittleFairy
Posted by justagirl
Posted by LittleFairy
Posted by justagirl
Posted by LittleFairy
They have cctv rooms ....cameras would have seen a guy walking with a gun ..and he would not have been able to get on the roof ..
He was in one of the suites on the 32nd floor. not the roof. He didn't walk through the casino/hotel with guns in the open, he brought them inside luggage.
He mounted cameras though...outside the room ..
not sure if this will help explain better. it was from one of the local papers here

User Submitted Image

he had a huge suite of rooms and from what they reported he had cameras near the door to the bedrooms and in the rooms itself. Still unsure about outisde.

All that has been reported is that he had cameras, the fbi has them currently. This whole thing is just crazy and it sounds as if he wasn't having maids or anyone inside, there was a food cart left outside the main room door.
That's what I thought ...left to his own ..you have to let maids in here ..they would know something was up if you didn't ..usually it's prostitution or drugs though..
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Have you ever been to vegas?? How bout any American hotel?

Please take yourself and your ignorance and find several seats. Thnx.
Posted by LittleFairy
They are saying he may have left a note.It has been suggested debts, a relationship collapse, or his family history may have contributed to the his drive to kill.

His Dad was a bank robber ..not a loving stable environment.
Guys he had daddy issues. It all makes sense now.

🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄
Posted by LittleFairy
Posted by Ram416
Posted by LittleFairy
i wonder did the fact he was a high roller mean he was left to do as he pleased a bit...
What do you mean?

If he worked alone, it's very easy to go undetected. There is little to almost no risk of a "leakage" of info.

Having a co-operative doesn't leak info ...you don't know what or who the other cell is ...they don't know you or what you do ...you just know how you are trained..

You can think of a collective as ..Isis ..or the green book ..or the info being disseminated illegally without care etc...

The truth is ...he didn't not act alone...but those who aided him did not know what they were doing. But were careless.

He exploited people's ignorance about him. He exploited ignorance about his plans.

He was also comfortable people would be ignorant.

He shot himself .....obv to avoid the disappointment of arrest...disappointment on being arrested is a huge deterrent ..not because of fear of prison ..but the DOWNER affect ...it breaks people

If they had caught him alive ..it would have deterred other shooters...shrink him ....propaganda
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How exactly would they have caught him alive??? He had an array of machine guns on him. They would have shot him dead. Duh.

Do you thnk it was the DXP outage that pushed him off the edge?

Wait, anybody has news about twinkletoes?
Posted by LadyNeptune
Posted by LittleFairy
Posted by LadyNeptune
I'm sickened how the news is constantly saying "this was not a terrorist attack". Bullshit.

Just cause the shooter doesn't fit your rhetoric of brown skin does not mean this wasn't terroism. Uggghhh 😩😩😩
Agreed ...but a different kind of terrorism perhaps

He has no guerilla vision which we can dilute or neutralize and certainly no supporters.

Guerilla warfare's key tactic is local support if they feel they don't have it they become afraid. So locals condemn and get aggressive media campaigns support alternative or matching visions.

What was he afraid of and what was his vision?

My advice to Americans is to make clear all Americans think this man is disgusting and as a tribe he is your enemy and not one of you. It will dissuade a forming vision built on anger or apathy.

Also that you are garnering support from the hotel industry in preempting this.
No one asked for your advice...

Wtf is guerilla warfare? And wtf does it have to do with this topic??!


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It's the most common type of terrorism.
Posted by LadyNeptune
Posted by LittleFairy
Posted by LadyNeptune
I'm sickened how the news is constantly saying "this was not a terrorist attack". Bullshit.

Just cause the shooter doesn't fit your rhetoric of brown skin does not mean this wasn't terroism. Uggghhh 😩😩😩
Agreed ...but a different kind of terrorism perhaps

He has no guerilla vision which we can dilute or neutralize and certainly no supporters.

Guerilla warfare's key tactic is local support if they feel they don't have it they become afraid. So locals condemn and get aggressive media campaigns support alternative or matching visions.

What was he afraid of and what was his vision?

My advice to Americans is to make clear all Americans think this man is disgusting and as a tribe he is your enemy and not one of you. It will dissuade a forming vision built on anger or apathy.

Also that you are garnering support from the hotel industry in preempting this.


Calling a dead man disgusting isn't going to change what happened or keep it from happening again. Nice try Bambi.
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Yes it will.

Also whatever his vision is ....get non violent groups to support it ....sort of like a non violent isis ..we want the same stuff as isis only just through non violence they don't have to be serious the govt her sets up lots of fake ones ..or politicians support certain shit ..

It gets quite funny at times..
But condemnation and stigmatizing him from local support among gun people will actually make people feel they need to watch collectively what is going on in their community.
Posted by LittleFairy
But condemnation and stigmatizing him from local support among gun people will actually make people feel they need to watch collectively what is going on in their community.


Kind of like football teams ..he ain't on your team Merica. He is prob a libtard

Posted by bmoon8
Then that means it wasn't planned and he acted on impulse.
There was a LOT of planning.
Posted by LadyNeptune
Posted by LittleFairy
Posted by Ram416
Posted by LittleFairy
i wonder did the fact he was a high roller mean he was left to do as he pleased a bit...
What do you mean?

If he worked alone, it's very easy to go undetected. There is little to almost no risk of a "leakage" of info.

Having a co-operative doesn't leak info ...you don't know what or who the other cell is ...they don't know you or what you do ...you just know how you are trained..

You can think of a collective as ..Isis ..or the green book ..or the info being disseminated illegally without care etc...

The truth is ...he didn't not act alone...but those who aided him did not know what they were doing. But were careless.

He exploited people's ignorance about him. He exploited ignorance about his plans.

He was also comfortable people would be ignorant.

He shot himself .....obv to avoid the disappointment of arrest...disappointment on being arrested is a huge deterrent ..not because of fear of prison ..but the DOWNER affect ...it breaks people

If they had caught him alive ..it would have deterred other shooters...shrink him ....propaganda
How exactly would they have caught him alive??? He had an array of machine guns on him. They would have shot him dead. Duh.

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I know but it would have been very productive psychologically in dissuading others.

Posted by Sagiluv27
Posted by rabidtalker
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/las-vegas-shooter-mandalay-bay-11274824

this guy is puzzling, no one knows why he did what he did, he had a good life, lots of money, retired, lady friends. But something turned sideways in his head and now here he are. anyways...

Paddock, born 4/9/1953, lived in a three-year-old, 396,000 dollar (£297,554) two-bedroom home in Nevada, US records show.

According to his brother Eric: "he's just a guy who played video poker and took cruises and ate burritos at Taco Bell."

Stephen was described by officials as a "local man" who apparently acted alone.

He is thought to have been a grandad.

He previously worked as an accountant but was also an avid real estate investor.

He owned apartments and houses around Orlando, Florida.

His brother Eric said: ""My brother is not like you and me. He plays high-stakes video poker.

"He sends me a text that says he won $ 250,000 at the casino."

However, there was no hint he owed anyone money as his brother even showed authorities three years of text messages today.



until we find more info, this is the weirdest massacre yet. and oh yeah ISIS falsely claimed it ASAP.

Him and his father were mentally ill.

Money doesn't always fix illness
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Police say there is no evidence of mental illness or insanity. He knew what he was doing.
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