LIAR.

I don't care if you're one of those signs who wears their propensity for deathly honesty with pride (aries, scorps, sags, some gems):

WE ARE ALL LIARS.

Bloody fucking liars.

Bare-faced, gone-without-a-trace, not-so-keen-on-the-human-race LIARS.

I read somewhere that liars can't stand still. I'm a fucking rock, baby!

They say you can tell someone's lying by little things they do, you know, scratching their heads, avoiding eye contact and so on.

Well, I'll look you right in your brittle little SOUL and LIE to you.

Sweetly, too.

And you know what else? The guilt always dies after a few minutes.

Always.

Yesiree bob.

Yep. I'm bragging about it.

Because as truth oriented as my sign is, as my PERSONALITY in the real world is, SOMETIMES - OFTEN TIMES - YOU JUST GOTTA.

I'm not joking.

Sometimes there is just no other alternative. You HAVE to.

And I'm not talking about lying for yourself, to cover your ass and save face.

I'm talking about lying for the other person. Lying to protect them. Their ego. Their happiness. Their confidence.

What have you.

I found that out yesterday, in the most basic of situations ever. I've always known, I think.

Often, lying is a good thing. Easily bruised Pisces moon here. I should know.

Paradoxically, I personally wouldn't like to be lied to.

Because as fragile as my inner personality is, I can handle the truth.

It'll make me mad, REALLY, vengefully mad, but i'll bask in the dark thoughts, and plumb the depths of depression.

Because what the people you are trying to protect don't know - don't want to know - is that the truth is TRANSFORMING.

So, you know... don't feel guilty.

When they're ready for the truth... well, you'll never really know.

Just lie, please? For the other person's sake. They won't thank you, especially when they find out.

But you'll know you did a good thing. Deep down you'll know.

I dont lie 🙂

actually i love lying lol......I went to the bottlo to get some red last night for my room mates and told them someone pulled a gun out on me and they were like :O then i said i did a back flip and landed on someones roof in slow motion and said "you don't know who the fuck your dealing with"!! and we all had a laugh.....nah I'm not a liar I'm a shit stirring story teller....liars hurt people and I don't have it in my to do that...personally liars don't get to me at all I'm like wateva I can see ur lying or i don't even care about peoples shit to give a fuck I have a friend who lies "alot" huuuge liar...everyone tells me why are u friends with him? cos hes so dodgy and shit....to me his lies do no harm and i find them entertaining.

i know theres situations where u may have to lie but theres ways of getting out of them like deflecting or just not answering the question....

I will lie in a second if I have to.


When my mother was still alive, her lifeforce dwindling each moment, she had very little left to make her happy .. because of her diabetes, she also lost a lot of her vision and couldn't really see.

She would put her make up on, dress herself and it looked terrible because she couldn't see, she would mismatch colors ....


.. I told her she was beautiful and would proudly go out in public .. yeah, I was lying.

In certain situations, you have to lie .. you cannot always tell the truth. I know this is what you are saying here .. that it's always better to tell the truth, but, that isn't right.



A woman with a fat ass really doesn't want to be told this .... even if she's asking how her ass looks in her new jeans.

A guy really doesn't want to be told he's a lousy fuck and has a small dick .. even if he's asking "How was it baby"



Seriously .....

I agree with the original OP in that EVERYONE lies. What I will say is that on those rare ocassions when I do(feel compelled to or whatever) I can't STAND IT! I don't like lying at all. Period. I prefer to be honest even if it hurts, but given PAngels example - I would most doubtly have done the same thing for my mother, and not even have felt an ounce of guilt.
The lies I don't like are the ones where people try to make themselves look good (for whatever reason) to other people; lies that women tell their girlfriends when they know damn well they should tell them the truth (tactfully, of course); lies that employers tell employees to get them to stay there and not leave their company and go to the competition. In general, I just don't like it - for me. If others want to lie - do your damn thang, but I prefer to ALWAYS be told the truth, even if it hurts, because then I won't be living in some fairytale land. I'm a Realist - everything isn't always gonna be friggin roses and lilacs. Are there things in my life that I'm not proud of and would prefer NOT to talk about? Absolutely, but I just try to avoid situations where I feel I'll have to lie. It sucks!

I can't lie to save my life.

Posted by LovelyScorp
the worst liars are the ones that claim they don't lie but simply just omit the truth.

my taurus brother is a genius at this.

he will only tell half the story or parts of the story to his liking and then claims he's not liar.

I used to do that... and I was a pro at it.

I find that lying isn't worth it anymore. I cannot remember the last time someone asked me something and I intentionally lied or mislead them. If someone asks something and I do not want to answer, I will tell them it is none of their business or that they don't want my answer; but, I don't lie about it. People appreciate the honesty. I don't understand the whole "do it for them" or "I lied to protect you" mentalities.

If you don't want an honest answer, why did you ask the question? A phony ego boost? What good is that, you probably know it's phony anyway so why not just get your confidence from yourself?

If anything I should refuse to answer more often, lying doesn't really help.

"If you don't want an honest answer, why did you ask the question? A phony ego boost? What good is that, you probably know it's phony anyway so why not just get your confidence from yourself?"

@LibraSid - Yeah, I just don't get it either— Plus, I don't understand what good comes out of someone wanting others to lie to them—? And while they will swear up and down that's not their intention, you can always tell by their reactions that they didn't care for what you said. I now ask my friends, "Do you want me to sugar coat it, or do you want me to give it to you raw??" 75% want sugar! LOL, the other 25% SAY they want it raw, but really want it sugar too!

Like Jack Nicholson said in "A Few Good Men"
"You [people] can't handle the truth!" I definitely believe that to be the case for the majority of the population.

Posted by USCTaurusGal
I now ask my friends, "Do you want me to sugar coat it, or do you want me to give it to you raw??" 75% want sugar! LOL, the other 25% SAY they want it raw, but really want it sugar too!

I used to do that too. They learned real quick what "do you want an honest answer?" meant. They appreciate it now.

🙂 You know that's right Bells. I was thinking the same when I posted.

I'll be the first to admit that I can lie like nobody's business, and nobody would be the wiser cuz I'm just that good! With that being said, I don't believe in it, and prefer NOT to have to do it; even if it's at the expense of losing some friendships (which HAS happened). On the flip side, I TRY not to give unsolicited advice, so if they don't ask my opinion; I typically won't give it, but there are rare occasions when I have though, but I really try to stay away from that.

Posted by &2gedanow

Because as truth oriented as my sign is, as my PERSONALITY in the real world is, SOMETIMES - OFTEN TIMES - YOU JUST GOTTA.

I'm not joking.

Sometimes there is just no other alternative. You HAVE to.

First, you always have a choice. You may not always like your options, but they are ALWAYS there.

Posted by &2gedanow

And I'm not talking about lying for yourself, to cover your ass and save face.

I'm talking about lying for the other person. Lying to protect them. Their ego. Their happiness. Their confidence.

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Second, this is the part that I don't get. Their ego, their happiness, their confidence... their problem! Now, that sounds a lot harsher than the full reality of it. Yes I am concerned about the happiness and confidence of my friends but I do not believe that lying to give them false confidence is good. Usually this is done for stupid stuff anyway (the "does my butt look big" thing).


If you are going to try and help build someones self confidence do it right! It's the same for kids and grown ups.

1. If they are good at something, let them know.
2. If they tried but failed, commend the effort.
And the best way has nothing to do with attempting or accomplishing anything anyway.
3. Let them know you appreciate them just for being them. They don't need to do or be something "special" to get your approval.

Posted by LibraSid

Posted by &2gedanow

Because as truth oriented as my sign is, as my PERSONALITY in the real world is, SOMETIMES - OFTEN TIMES - YOU JUST GOTTA.

I'm not joking.

Sometimes there is just no other alternative. You HAVE to.

First, you always have a choice. You may not always like your options, but they are ALWAYS there.

Posted by &2gedanow

And I'm not talking about lying for yourself, to cover your ass and save face.

I'm talking about lying for the other person. Lying to protect them. Their ego. Their happiness. Their confidence.

Second, this is the part that I don't get. Their ego, their happiness, their confidence... their problem! Now, that sounds a lot harsher than the full reality of it. Yes I am concerned about the happiness and confidence of my friends but I do not believe that lying to give them false confidence is good. Usually this is done for stupid stuff anyway (the "does my butt look big" thing).


If you are going to try and help build someones self confidence do it right! It's the same for kids and grown ups.

1. If they are good at something, let them know.
2. If they tried but failed, commend the effort.
And the best way has nothing to do with attempting or accomplishing anything anyway.
3. Let them know you appreciate them just for being them. They don't need to do or be something "special" to get your approval.

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My aries brother had a breakdown a few months ago.

I know now as I knew then that part of the reason he had the breakdown was because I always told him the truth.

Brutally so.

He's the one who inspired this thread, as well as my comments about fire signs and how they're like birds who fly but have never actually taken the time to look down before (when they do it all goes to sh**).

I say fire signs because in my experience they're the signs who are most likely to avidly reject any idea that isn't remotely optimistic.

Which is not a bad thing.

It was my analogy for having a little bit of cynicism every now and then. It cushions the blow when reality hits.

I lie to people who I don't care about. Now I'm questioning being completely honest to the ones I do.

Posted by &2gedanow

My aries brother had a breakdown a few months ago.

I know now as I knew then that part of the reason he had the breakdown was because I always told him the truth.

Brutally so.

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I lie to people who I don't care about. Now I'm questioning being completely honest to the ones I do.

I don't know the details of your situation but you cannot lay the responsibility for his breakdown on yourself... especially not on your honesty.

While there may be real problems that need to be dealt with, the truth is not the problem. How can someone face a problem and deal with it if they don't even know the truth about a situation. The best thing you can do for someone you care about is to let them know the truth and then be there for them as support if it is needed.

Posted by LibraSid

Posted by &2gedanow

My aries brother had a breakdown a few months ago.

I know now as I knew then that part of the reason he had the breakdown was because I always told him the truth.

Brutally so.

...

I lie to people who I don't care about. Now I'm questioning being completely honest to the ones I do.

I don't know the details of your situation but you cannot lay the responsibility for his breakdown on yourself... especially not on your honesty.

While there may be real problems that need to be dealt with, the truth is not the problem. How can someone face a problem and deal with it if they don't even know the truth about a situation. The best thing you can do for someone you care about is to let them know the truth and then be there for them as support if it is needed.

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Yikes, I said "part of". I can't imagine being the sole reason for his breakdown.

But I hear you, I guess. Sometimes the truth does kill, though...