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It's good to get objective opinions, but people outside the US can suffer from media manipulation just as US citizens do. The best source of information remains your own eyes and ears, and if you don't experience the US for yourself, you simply don't know shit.
And staying a long weekend in New York or having a 4 hour layover at LAX doesn't count.
Spend a month in St. Louis or Minneapolis or Charlotte then get back to me.
And staying a long weekend in New York or having a 4 hour layover at LAX doesn't count.
Spend a month in St. Louis or Minneapolis or Charlotte then get back to me.
I can't disagree with that. At all.
Our system of government has even given us the tools to change that. But nope...too busy watching shitty TV to bother.
Our system of government has even given us the tools to change that. But nope...too busy watching shitty TV to bother.
Posted by xEUxIf you think people within the US know this to be absolute truth, then idk what to say.
If you're not from the US, the first thing to know is that our media is a machine that's always on the go and doesn't always portray thngs accurately.
It's not people who are in the US or outside the US.
People everywhere will set their alarm clock by the media..or won't.
I had the opposite experience. Foreigners who don't buy the US media and US citizens who stand behind it 100% .
Posted by DamnataForeign media can be just as bad as US media.Posted by xEUxIf you think people within the US know this to be absolute truth, then idk what to say.
If you're not from the US, the first thing to know is that our media is a machine that's always on the go and doesn't always portray thngs accurately.
It's not people who are in the US or outside the US.
People everywhere will set their alarm clock by the media..or won't.
I had the opposite experience. Foreigners who don't buy the US media and US citizens who stand behind it 100% .
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If she still lives in a bubble after having visited the US...then that's not even media at that point. She's sticking by what she read over what she saw with her eyes and people who do that are easily manipulated. Nothing can be done past that point.
I mean a sound judgment should tell her that no matter what she reads, whom she talks to... unless she lives there, there is a component to life she can't gauge properly. There's only so much debating you can make from the sidelines before being a fraud to yourself. At the core of it, I'll never truly "get" gun control topics. I can make points but I don't live in that realm so there's a limit before I turn pretentious. Seems she doesn't recognize that.
I mean a sound judgment should tell her that no matter what she reads, whom she talks to... unless she lives there, there is a component to life she can't gauge properly. There's only so much debating you can make from the sidelines before being a fraud to yourself. At the core of it, I'll never truly "get" gun control topics. I can make points but I don't live in that realm so there's a limit before I turn pretentious. Seems she doesn't recognize that.
Posted by QuantumYes, check the bolded.Posted by DamnataForeign media can be just as bad as US media.Posted by xEUxIf you think people within the US know this to be absolute truth, then idk what to say.
If you're not from the US, the first thing to know is that our media is a machine that's always on the go and doesn't always portray thngs accurately.
It's not people who are in the US or outside the US.
People everywhere will set their alarm clock by the media..or won't.
I had the opposite experience. Foreigners who don't buy the US media and US citizens who stand behind it 100% .
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Only addressed US media because topic centered on it.
Posted by DamnataSorry. Reading comprehension fail. Too much meth...I mean Sudafed.Posted by QuantumYes, check the bolded.Posted by DamnataForeign media can be just as bad as US media.Posted by xEUxIf you think people within the US know this to be absolute truth, then idk what to say.
If you're not from the US, the first thing to know is that our media is a machine that's always on the go and doesn't always portray thngs accurately.
It's not people who are in the US or outside the US.
People everywhere will set their alarm clock by the media..or won't.
I had the opposite experience. Foreigners who don't buy the US media and US citizens who stand behind it 100% .
Only addressed US media because topic centered on it.
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Yep. It seems lots of foreigners are experts on the US. They know everything that's going on and they do lots of reading online and watch 6 hours of CNN.
Luckily I know enough to refrain from commenting on Europe's unwashed gypsy problem.
I know more about rockyroadicecream than she knows about herself. I have a list of rants she will eventually post.
I love you, my sweet potato.
I love you, my sweet potato.
Posted by SssupesAs opposed to US citizens in the Brexit topic.
Yep. It seems lots of foreigners are experts on the US. They know everything that's going on and they do lots of reading online and watch 6 hours of CNN.
Posted by DamnataNo clue what that is. I'm actually out of the loop on lots of things. 90+ hrs a week at work will do thatPosted by SssupesAs opposed to US citizens in the Brexit topic.
Yep. It seems lots of foreigners are experts on the US. They know everything that's going on and they do lots of reading online and watch 6 hours of CNN.
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Posted by SssupesNor did they. Didn't stop them from explaining european politics to us.Posted by DamnataNo clue what that is.Posted by SssupesAs opposed to US citizens in the Brexit topic.
Yep. It seems lots of foreigners are experts on the US. They know everything that's going on and they do lots of reading online and watch 6 hours of CNN.
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Anyway, no bone to pick with US peeps. As long as there are people, there will be opinions on both sides. It is what it is.
Posted by DamnataYup. When I say anything about foreign relations, it's from first hand knowledge only. Otherwise, it's bullshitPosted by SssupesNor did they. Didn't stop them from explaining european politics to us.Posted by DamnataNo clue what that is.Posted by SssupesAs opposed to US citizens in the Brexit topic.
Yep. It seems lots of foreigners are experts on the US. They know everything that's going on and they do lots of reading online and watch 6 hours of CNN.
Anyway, no bone to pick with US peeps. As long as there are people, there will be opinions on both sides. It is what it is.
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Posted by DamnataThere's a difference between the Brexit and say...police shootings in the US.Posted by SssupesAs opposed to US citizens in the Brexit topic.
Yep. It seems lots of foreigners are experts on the US. They know everything that's going on and they do lots of reading online and watch 6 hours of CNN.
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One is a global one is local.
Posted by QuantumConsidering the US is as big as Europe...I'm going to disagree with what local and global mean.Posted by DamnataThere's a difference between the Brexit and say...police shootings in the US.Posted by SssupesAs opposed to US citizens in the Brexit topic.
Yep. It seems lots of foreigners are experts on the US. They know everything that's going on and they do lots of reading online and watch 6 hours of CNN.
One is a global one is local.
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Edit: By "As big" I meant "comparable"
Posted by andstrollbotYup.
dxp has made me more adaptable to foreigners especially americans.
This forum made me stray from US media.
The opinions of US people here give me a better picture. It's still a microcosmos but imo more accurate.
Posted by DamnataThe Brexit affected my 401k.Posted by QuantumConsidering the US is as big as Europe...I'm going to disagree with what local and global mean.Posted by DamnataThere's a difference between the Brexit and say...police shootings in the US.Posted by SssupesAs opposed to US citizens in the Brexit topic.
Yep. It seems lots of foreigners are experts on the US. They know everything that's going on and they do lots of reading online and watch 6 hours of CNN.
One is a global one is local.
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How did the knife wielding crackhead who got shot last weekend on the west side on Indy affect you?
Posted by QuantumI'm sure it set in motion a chain of events that will cross my path at some point. We're all interconnected.Posted by DamnataThe Brexit affected my 401k.Posted by QuantumConsidering the US is as big as Europe...I'm going to disagree with what local and global mean.Posted by DamnataThere's a difference between the Brexit and say...police shootings in the US.Posted by SssupesAs opposed to US citizens in the Brexit topic.
Yep. It seems lots of foreigners are experts on the US. They know everything that's going on and they do lots of reading online and watch 6 hours of CNN.
One is a global one is local.
How did the knife wielding crackhead who got shot last weekend on the west side on Indy affect you?
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But if you talk from a personal level alone in this present moment...yeah it's easier to see how Brexit affects me more over the knife wielding crackhead.
We're all hypocrites though. As long as it doesn't affect us..who cares?
Posted by tizianiPatrotism mostly died with Gen X.
Americans seem more jaded to me, on here.
I miss the days when US was really patriotic.
Posted by Arielle83That's universal "knowledge".
Their friend of a friend that went to Vancouver knows all about my country!
I know all about France, doe. Been to Paris twice!
lol.
Posted by tizianiI remember the ending of that Charlie Hebdo topic when LIB went all patriotic on me with eagles and god bless America.
Americans seem more jaded to me, on here.
I miss the days when US was really patriotic.
It's still alive, man. Don't lose hope.
They are emotional people. You'll see it in topics where they get triggered.
Cancer Sun country.
Also as far as Europeans go, they should stfu with anything "patriotic" because it's full blown nationalism here.
It's like...it would be nice to see some sane patriotism someplace else because we went completely overboard here.
It's like...it would be nice to see some sane patriotism someplace else because we went completely overboard here.
Posted by DamnataThat's a bit of a reach. While probably technically true...do we all have the time and mental energy to worry about whether a squirrel farting in my backyard is going to eventually create a typhoon that swamps Bangladesh?Posted by QuantumI'm sure it set in motion a chain of events that will cross my path at some point. We're all interconnected.Posted by DamnataThe Brexit affected my 401k.Posted by QuantumConsidering the US is as big as Europe...I'm going to disagree with what local and global mean.Posted by DamnataThere's a difference between the Brexit and say...police shootings in the US.Posted by SssupesAs opposed to US citizens in the Brexit topic.
Yep. It seems lots of foreigners are experts on the US. They know everything that's going on and they do lots of reading online and watch 6 hours of CNN.
One is a global one is local.
How did the knife wielding crackhead who got shot last weekend on the west side on Indy affect you?
But if you talk from a personal level alone in this present moment...yeah it's easier to see how Brexit affects me more over the knife wielding crackhead.
We're all hypocrites though. As long as it doesn't affect us..who cares?click to expand
Posted by QuantumThen we shouldn't have time and mental energy to worry about anything that isn't in our vecinity yet people play it like they do (myself included here...just general human trait to pick and choose)Posted by DamnataThat's a bit of a reach. While probably technically true...do we all have the time and mental energy to worry about whether a squirrel farting in my backyard is going to eventually create a typhoon that swamps Bangladesh?Posted by QuantumI'm sure it set in motion a chain of events that will cross my path at some point. We're all interconnected.Posted by DamnataThe Brexit affected my 401k.Posted by QuantumConsidering the US is as big as Europe...I'm going to disagree with what local and global mean.Posted by DamnataThere's a difference between the Brexit and say...police shootings in the US.Posted by SssupesAs opposed to US citizens in the Brexit topic.
Yep. It seems lots of foreigners are experts on the US. They know everything that's going on and they do lots of reading online and watch 6 hours of CNN.
One is a global one is local.
How did the knife wielding crackhead who got shot last weekend on the west side on Indy affect you?
But if you talk from a personal level alone in this present moment...yeah it's easier to see how Brexit affects me more over the knife wielding crackhead.
We're all hypocrites though. As long as it doesn't affect us..who cares?
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Posted by DamnataThis is why I don't worry about anything.Posted by QuantumThen we shouldn't have time and mental energy to worry about anything that isn't in our vecinity yet people play it like they do (myself included here...just general human trait to pick and choose)Posted by DamnataThat's a bit of a reach. While probably technically true...do we all have the time and mental energy to worry about whether a squirrel farting in my backyard is going to eventually create a typhoon that swamps Bangladesh?Posted by QuantumI'm sure it set in motion a chain of events that will cross my path at some point. We're all interconnected.Posted by DamnataThe Brexit affected my 401k.Posted by QuantumConsidering the US is as big as Europe...I'm going to disagree with what local and global mean.Posted by DamnataThere's a difference between the Brexit and say...police shootings in the US.Posted by SssupesAs opposed to US citizens in the Brexit topic.
Yep. It seems lots of foreigners are experts on the US. They know everything that's going on and they do lots of reading online and watch 6 hours of CNN.
One is a global one is local.
How did the knife wielding crackhead who got shot last weekend on the west side on Indy affect you?
But if you talk from a personal level alone in this present moment...yeah it's easier to see how Brexit affects me more over the knife wielding crackhead.
We're all hypocrites though. As long as it doesn't affect us..who cares?
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Except if my pizza sauce is simmering and reducing properly.
Posted by QuantumLiar..Posted by DamnataThis is why I don't worry about anything.Posted by QuantumThen we shouldn't have time and mental energy to worry about anything that isn't in our vecinity yet people play it like they do (myself included here...just general human trait to pick and choose)Posted by DamnataThat's a bit of a reach. While probably technically true...do we all have the time and mental energy to worry about whether a squirrel farting in my backyard is going to eventually create a typhoon that swamps Bangladesh?Posted by QuantumI'm sure it set in motion a chain of events that will cross my path at some point. We're all interconnected.Posted by DamnataThe Brexit affected my 401k.Posted by QuantumConsidering the US is as big as Europe...I'm going to disagree with what local and global mean.Posted by DamnataThere's a difference between the Brexit and say...police shootings in the US.Posted by SssupesAs opposed to US citizens in the Brexit topic.
Yep. It seems lots of foreigners are experts on the US. They know everything that's going on and they do lots of reading online and watch 6 hours of CNN.
One is a global one is local.
How did the knife wielding crackhead who got shot last weekend on the west side on Indy affect you?
But if you talk from a personal level alone in this present moment...yeah it's easier to see how Brexit affects me more over the knife wielding crackhead.
We're all hypocrites though. As long as it doesn't affect us..who cares?
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Oh, you corrected yourself.
Ok then.
Ok then.
Posted by ShadowcatI need to go to my safe place now.Posted by andstrollbotPosted by Damnatahilary= trigger wordPosted by tizianiI remember the ending of that Charlie Hebdo topic when LIB went all patriotic on me with eagles and god bless America.
Americans seem more jaded to me, on here.
I miss the days when US was really patriotic.
It's still alive, man. Don't lose hope.
They are emotional people. You'll see it in topics where they get triggered.
Cancer Sun country.
Or Trump
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Thanks guise.
Posted by DamnataI'm still lying.
Oh, you corrected yourself.
Ok then.
Would you like a full list of what's in my head right now?
Posted by QuantumI know you're still lying but I was being nice.Posted by DamnataI'm still lying.
Oh, you corrected yourself.
Ok then.
Would you like a full list of what's in my head right now?
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Cliff notes?
Posted by andstrollbotQdoba.Posted by Shadowcatmine is chipotlePosted by andstrollbotPosted by Damnatahilary= trigger wordPosted by tizianiI remember the ending of that Charlie Hebdo topic when LIB went all patriotic on me with eagles and god bless America.
Americans seem more jaded to me, on here.
I miss the days when US was really patriotic.
It's still alive, man. Don't lose hope.
They are emotional people. You'll see it in topics where they get triggered.
Cancer Sun country.
Or Trump
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Posted by DamnataCliffs Notes wouldn't do the list any justice.Posted by QuantumI know you're still lying but I was being nice.Posted by DamnataI'm still lying.
Oh, you corrected yourself.
Ok then.
Would you like a full list of what's in my head right now?
Cliff notes?
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I think that every state and every city within the states have a very very different feel. even the people.
the east coast is too different than the mid west and west ect.
the east coast is too different than the mid west and west ect.
Posted by cheekyfaerieIs it?Posted by Quantum*psst* it's "Romani" now...
Luckily I know enough to refrain from commenting on Europe's unwashed gypsy problem.click to expand
IDK anymore. Here in Indiana we would just call them "Mexicans" since every immigrant is clearly from Mexico to us.
Posted by Arielle83The troll gene in me is strong when I travel.Posted by DamnataYeahhh I put on a fake accent sometimes to avoid these questions.Posted by Arielle83That's universal "knowledge".
Their friend of a friend that went to Vancouver knows all about my country!
I know all about France, doe. Been to Paris twice!
lol.
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I totally play off the stereotype of know it all foreigner. Then I wait for the moment when I see the judgment formed "She's like all the rest of the annoying tourists" to be all like "Just kidding man, I know I don't actually know shit".
But not before I get a rise out of them. It's especially funny in latin countries.
Posted by QuantumAlrighty.Posted by DamnataCliffs Notes wouldn't do the list any justice.Posted by QuantumI know you're still lying but I was being nice.Posted by DamnataI'm still lying.
Oh, you corrected yourself.
Ok then.
Would you like a full list of what's in my head right now?
Cliff notes?
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Do the list justice.
People do the same to Texas.
http://m.chron.com/news/houston-texas/texas/article/The-good-the-bad-and-the-ugly-of-Texas-8320723.php
Most of it comes from television. Fake accents, Varsity Blues and Friday Night Lights portrayals, saying everyone rides horses, and more…
Plus they don't know where that cowboy stuff really came from -
We're infused with Spanish Tejano culture.. Not hicks like mostly the rest of the south.
http://m.chron.com/news/houston-texas/texas/article/The-good-the-bad-and-the-ugly-of-Texas-8320723.php
Most of it comes from television. Fake accents, Varsity Blues and Friday Night Lights portrayals, saying everyone rides horses, and more…
Plus they don't know where that cowboy stuff really came from -
We're infused with Spanish Tejano culture.. Not hicks like mostly the rest of the south.
Posted by cheekyfaeriePersonally gypsy sounds sexy.Posted by QuantumI'm taking the piss, but yeah, my FIL worked for Inland Revenue and they weren't allowed to say "gypsy" anymore. It was considered derogatory.Posted by cheekyfaerieIs it?Posted by Quantum*psst* it's "Romani" now...
Luckily I know enough to refrain from commenting on Europe's unwashed gypsy problem.
IDK anymore. Here in Indiana we would just call them "Mexicans" since every immigrant is clearly from Mexico to us.
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Romani sounds like the first name of guy who used to be in a Nickelodeon show who now sings crapoy R&B through an auto tuner.
Posted by DamnataHa!Posted by QuantumAlrighty.Posted by DamnataCliffs Notes wouldn't do the list any justice.Posted by QuantumI know you're still lying but I was being nice.Posted by DamnataI'm still lying.
Oh, you corrected yourself.
Ok then.
Would you like a full list of what's in my head right now?
Cliff notes?
Do the list justice.
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Like I'd really reveal that stuff.
Posted by QuantumPosted by cheekyfaerieIs it?Posted by Quantum*psst* it's "Romani" now...
Luckily I know enough to refrain from commenting on Europe's unwashed gypsy problem.
IDK anymore. Here in Indiana we would just call them "Mexicans" since every immigrant is clearly from Mexico to us.
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😆
edit - Florida would probably say, those Cubans!
Posted by QuantumWell that was predictable.Posted by DamnataHa!Posted by QuantumAlrighty.Posted by DamnataCliffs Notes wouldn't do the list any justice.Posted by QuantumI know you're still lying but I was being nice.Posted by DamnataI'm still lying.
Oh, you corrected yourself.
Ok then.
Would you like a full list of what's in my head right now?
Cliff notes?
Do the list justice.
Like I'd really reveal that stuff.
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Posted by DamnataYou expected a different result?Posted by QuantumWell that was predictable.Posted by DamnataHa!Posted by QuantumAlrighty.Posted by DamnataCliffs Notes wouldn't do the list any justice.Posted by QuantumI know you're still lying but I was being nice.Posted by DamnataI'm still lying.
Oh, you corrected yourself.
Ok then.
Would you like a full list of what's in my head right now?
Cliff notes?
Do the list justice.
Like I'd really reveal that stuff.
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Posted by ShadowcatMartin Luther King, Che Guevera, David Beckham, Halle Berry,Richard Burton,Posted by tizianiLol sun in the 4th house is an indicator of a patriotic individual. I'm also extremely patriotic, just in a practical Capricorn with a Virgo mars sensePosted by ShadowcatI don't understand?Posted by tizianiDid you call a sun in the 4th house?
Americans seem more jaded to me, on here.
I miss the days when US was really patriotic.click to expand
edit - oh astrotheme has Richard burton 4th house but it's his pluto that's in 4th, (Cancer energy i mean) he's 8th house.
Bill Gates then..
Posted by QuantumNo.Posted by DamnataYou expected a different result?Posted by QuantumWell that was predictable.Posted by DamnataHa!Posted by QuantumAlrighty.Posted by DamnataCliffs Notes wouldn't do the list any justice.Posted by QuantumI know you're still lying but I was being nice.Posted by DamnataI'm still lying.
Oh, you corrected yourself.
Ok then.
Would you like a full list of what's in my head right now?
Cliff notes?
Do the list justice.
Like I'd really reveal that stuff.
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Wanted to be proven wrong though.
Posted by DamnataI don't know if you're just being optimistic or oblivious.Posted by QuantumNo.Posted by DamnataYou expected a different result?Posted by QuantumWell that was predictable.Posted by DamnataHa!Posted by QuantumAlrighty.Posted by DamnataCliffs Notes wouldn't do the list any justice.Posted by QuantumI know you're still lying but I was being nice.Posted by DamnataI'm still lying.
Oh, you corrected yourself.
Ok then.
Would you like a full list of what's in my head right now?
Cliff notes?
Do the list justice.
Like I'd really reveal that stuff.
Wanted to be proven wrong though.
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Posted by GetMistedPosted by SssupesSame can be said about US citizens who watch 1 hour of Bill O'Reilly.
Yep. It seems lots of foreigners are experts on the US. They know everything that's going on and they do lots of reading online and watch 6 hours of CNN.click to expand
You shut your whore mouth when talking about O'Reilly.
Posted by GetMistedWhat is this "Apple Bees" you speak of? Is it like the "Wall Marts" I hear about?Posted by QuantumHell.. all she has to do is take one step out of Applebee's and she should be fine.
It's good to get objective opinions, but people outside the US can suffer from media manipulation just as US citizens do. The best source of information remains your own eyes and ears, and if you don't experience the US for yourself, you simply don't know shit.
And staying a long weekend in New York or having a 4 hour layover at LAX doesn't count.
Spend a month in St. Louis or Minneapolis or Charlotte then get back to me.
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