Plant Medicine for Mental Health

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So I have a new friend, (she's studying to be a therapist) and she recently shared in a group I'm involved with (a group that advocates for the research of MDMA assisted therapy) the story of how she was gang-raped as a 15-year old, and how it was only with the use of MDMA that she was able to discuss the event in a therapy session. She described the session in detail, and about how much trauma she felt her body physically releasing during the session. She also said that afterwards her PTSD was gone, and she couldn't feel the physical ailments that used to plague her.

I know lots of people have taken MDMA and recreationally before, but it's like anything, it's your intention when using it that matters. Like, I have a friend who did shrooms just to party several times and never realized the trans-formative experience they could have until he started meditating on them.

I also had my first real shroom trip a little over a month ago. I went to this psychedlic conference with some friends from the group, and we stayed on this beautiful farm on a secluded, forested mountain. It was spectacular. I saw a tree flash with a quick zip of white light energy, and I'm still trying to figure that one out.

It also was pretty excruciating for a good portion of the trip. Infact, at one point it got so bad that I was plotting my suicide. It was just that all of my problems were right there, it felt like they were literally right in my face, and they just seemed totally impossible to overcome. But you know what it did? It helped me compartmentalize my issues, instead of them seeming like this scattered mess. It helped me put them into one big box and then see the actions needed to overcome them.

The experience also reminded me that being of service to others is my highest calling and the thing that has made me happier than anything. I realized that if nothing else, if I can simply do that then I can live a fulfilled life.

I also felt an immense sense of love and appreciation for myself during the trip for having overcome so much already. I give less treetrunks about how I'm perceived by others every day, like how I used to beat myself up for not being accomplished enough or for saying dumb things. I'm so treetrunking smart and cool, treetrunk me. Staying humble, tho.
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Posted by FirstDecanTaurianWomen0428
Okay I just read a girl got raped and beat, so she has ptsd and no amount of therapy helped and she asked for euthanasia and got it because it was too much for her. So it's an option now you can ask for this treatment for situations like this and I rather ask for euthanasia myself if I ever had to get best, raped and lived to tell it to a therapist.

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Posted by FutureSeeker
https://www.drugabuse.gov/publications/research-reports/mdma-ecstasy-abuse/what-are-effects-mdma

Back in the 60s and 70s time frame therapists would use ecstasy for marital counseling- to help a couple few closer, etc. it was found to not actually help the couples overcome relationship issues- and instead just decreased inhibitions, feel emotions- just in that moment.

If a person wants to use MDMA- and they get better, good on them. The concern is what is actually going on- are real issues being addressed, and is MDMA really causing a patient to wear a mask- meaning, if they aren't on it, would they have an inability to express them self and cope- or will they instead have to keep taking MDMA each time they want to feel empathy, or joy, or discuss something traumatic.

Just being a Devil's Advocate on this part.
The medical field is constantly evolving. There are quite a few interesting things on the horizon.

That's just wrong. And you're annoying for even talking.

I mean your completely shut off from understanding something new, totally relying on your "education". That's really fucking discussing.
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DEA Approves Ecstasy for Clinical Trials [Update]

The U.S. Drug Enforcement Administration (DEA) has approved the first clinical trial of MDMA to treat anxiety and other psychological illnesses, amid a growing resurgence in therapeutic psychedelic drug usage in the medical community.

Aljazeera.com reports:

“The tide has changed for psychedelic research,” said Brad Burge, the communications director for the Multidisciplinary Association for Psychedelic Studies (MAPS), a California-based nonprofit research group that studies medicinal uses for psychedelics and marijuana and is sponsoring the study. The DEA approved the project on Friday, he said.

Unlike Ecstasy or Molly — names for MDMA sold on the street and often mixed with dangerous adulterants — pure MDMA has been proved “sufficiently safe” when taken a limited number of times in moderate doses, MAPS says on its website. The DEA did not immediately respond to a request for comment.

MDMA can be useful in psychotherapy for people suffering from anxiety due to life-threatening illnesses because it produces in users a sense of calm, trust and confidence, Burge said. Unlike psychedelics such as LSD and psilocybin, MDMA does not produce hallucinations, he added.
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Posted by TheLibraMudra
Not sure how MDMA helps you. Makes ya feel like complete shite after and puts holes in your brain. I did it a bunch back in the day for parties. Good times but I couldn't remember for the life of me what the fuck I actually mumbled on about while expressing my feelings massaging everything in my sight.

But holy sheet, mon. Had some unexplainable mushroom trips. Used in a ceremonial way, I completely understand that.
I also had a terrible come down from when I did MDMA recreationally once that lasted weeks, but in a clinical setting, when dispensed from a medical professional, you can be sure that you're receiving pure MDMA. And we're talking about a couple of sessions, spaced apart, so that your serotonin levels are able to restore themselves.
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Posted by LillyPetal
Vitamin C has been proven to help with depression. People with depression often exhibit low levels of vitamin c.
Yes, vitamin C combined with fish oil.

I saw this great TedTalk recently about depression and it explained and confirmed so much.



Here's an article if you don't want to watch the vid:
http://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2010/jul/19/beat-depression-without-drugs

6 Steps for beating Depression:
â–¶ Take 1,500mg of omega-3 daily (in the form of fish oil capsules), with a multivitamin and 500mg vitamin C.
â–¶ Don't dwell on negative thoughts – instead of ruminating start an activity; even conversation counts.
â–¶ Exercise for 90 minutes a week.
â–¶ Get 15-30 minutes of sunlight each morning in the summer. In the winter, consider using a lightbox.
â–¶ Be sociable.
â–¶ Get eight hours of sleep

Seems simple but as the speaker states: "The devil is in the detail," replies Ilardi. "People need to know how much sunlight is most effective, and at which time of day. And taking supplements, for example, is a complex business. You need anti-oxidants to ensure that the fish oil is effective, as well as a multivitamin. Without someone spelling it out, most people would never do it."
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I am also doing ayahuasca this year, (that's a plant). There is this great movie (a Western, of all things) that has an ayahuasca trip in it. I've heard from people that it's a strikingly realistic depiction.


Someone I know is going on a trip to South America to try ayahuasca this year as well.

This documentary talks about it and documents the experience of several people. It's an interesting phenomenon and I do wonder what it feels like. Since Ayahuasca is a plant that is considered a entheogen that is known for it's hallucinogenic properties, I do wonder if what people are actually experiencing can be described as a spiritual experience or just hallucinations from this psychedelic plant and how could anyone possibly tell the difference. I guess that's a big part of the appeal though.




I'm guessing you'll be going to South America as well? Or Central America? After your trip, do you plan on documenting or sharing your experience in anyway? I'd be interested in hearing about it.

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Thanks for the vid. I've been fascinated by the ayahuasca experience for over ten years now. I will definitely write a trip report and post it here.
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Posted by exxtasyx
I did a lot of ecstasy in my teens, MDMA, ketamine, cocaine and a bunch of other shit. All it did was really screw me up.

HOWEVER, I'm not going to get into the details of EVERYTHING that went down, but I took 2 MDMA pills one day and a bunch of shit just went down. Like it's hard to say without explaining everything but my entire life changed in about an hour. I had a very transformative experience, walked home and I just realized everything about myself and my life and I've never been the same since. I changed for the better within an hour on that day.

But do I recommend it for therapy? Hell no. Maybe for like one session, sure. But constantly taking that stuff is just going to really screw you up in the long run.
No one is suggesting taking it for more than one or two transformative sessions.

I have also had very transformative experiences when I took it recreationally, but I no longer take it because on the street you just don't know what you're getting, and when cut with other substances, the come down can be a total bitch.
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Posted by haunted_attics
So I have a new friend, (she's studying to be a therapist) and she recently shared in a group I'm involved with (a group that advocates for the research of MDMA assisted therapy) the story of how she was gang-raped as a 15-year old, and how it was only with the use of MDMA that she was able to discuss the event in a therapy session. She described the session in detail, and about how much trauma she felt her body physically releasing during the session. She also said that afterwards her PTSD was gone, and she couldn't feel the physical ailments that used to plague her.

I know lots of people have taken MDMA and recreationally before, but it's like anything, it's your intention when using it that matters. Like, I have a friend who did shrooms just to party several times and never realized the trans-formative experience they could have until he started meditating on them.

I also had my first real shroom trip a little over a month ago. I went to this psychedlic conference with some friends from the group, and we stayed on this beautiful farm on a secluded, forested mountain. It was spectacular. I saw a tree flash with a quick zip of white light energy, and I'm still trying to figure that one out.

It also was pretty excruciating for a good portion of the trip. Infact, at one point it got so bad that I was plotting my suicide. It was just that all of my problems were right there, it felt like they were literally right in my face, and they just seemed totally impossible to overcome. But you know what it did? It helped me compartmentalize my issues, instead of them seeming like this scattered mess. It helped me put them into one big box and then see the actions needed to overcome them.

The experience also reminded me that being of service to others is my highest calling and the thing that has made me happier than anything. I realized that if nothing else, if I can simply do that then I can live a fulfilled life.

I also felt an immense sense of love and appreciation for myself during the trip for having overcome so much already. I give less treetrunks about how I'm perceived by others every day, like how I used to beat myself up for not being accomplished enough or for saying dumb things. I'm so treetrunking smart and cool, treetrunk me. Staying humble, tho.
great post!!
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So I have a new friend, (she's studying to be a therapist) and she recently shared in a group I'm involved with (a group that advocates for the research of MDMA assisted therapy) the story of how she was gang-raped as a 15-year old, and how it was only with the use of MDMA that she was able to discuss the event in a therapy session. She described the session in detail, and about how much trauma she felt her body physically releasing during the session. She also said that afterwards her PTSD was gone, and she couldn't feel the physical ailments that used to plague her.

I know lots of people have taken MDMA and recreationally before, but it's like anything, it's your intention when using it that matters. Like, I have a friend who did shrooms just to party several times and never realized the trans-formative experience they could have until he started meditating on them.

I also had my first real shroom trip a little over a month ago. I went to this psychedlic conference with some friends from the group, and we stayed on this beautiful farm on a secluded, forested mountain. It was spectacular. I saw a tree flash with a quick zip of white light energy, and I'm still trying to figure that one out.

It also was pretty excruciating for a good portion of the trip. Infact, at one point it got so bad that I was plotting my suicide. It was just that all of my problems were right there, it felt like they were literally right in my face, and they just seemed totally impossible to overcome. But you know what it did? It helped me compartmentalize my issues, instead of them seeming like this scattered mess. It helped me put them into one big box and then see the actions needed to overcome them.

The experience also reminded me that being of service to others is my highest calling and the thing that has made me happier than anything. I realized that if nothing else, if I can simply do that then I can live a fulfilled life.

I also felt an immense sense of love and appreciation for myself during the trip for having overcome so much already. I give less treetrunks about how I'm perceived by others every day, like how I used to beat myself up for not being accomplished enough or for saying dumb things. I'm so treetrunking smart and cool, treetrunk me. Staying humble, tho.
great post!!
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Thanks 🙂