Prison

Should the law change an stop people leaving prison early through good behaviour?

I think regardess of how good you have been inside prison, if you commit the crime then you should do the time in my book.

What are your thoughts on this?

That's what irritates me, little offense..rot for ages, heinous stuff. Slap on the wrist and off you go *gently patting bottom*. Seems backwards to me.

Posted by venusianbull
That's what irritates me, little offense..rot for ages, heinous stuff. Slap on the wrist and off you go *gently patting bottom*. Seems backwards to me.

I'm in agreement with VB on this, because, what kind of message are you sending out to the person who commits the petty crime. All the will receive is a slap on the wrist.

Before you know it their out stealing again. I think the same should apply to famous people such as Linsay Lohan, how many times has this lady been put in jail. It is clearly not working, so a rethink in law is needed rant over lol.

I meant someone sitting in lock up for something ridiculous like a spliff. Yet murder..rape, etc. All of this. What? 3 years, 5, 10? OY.

Frontal lobotomy could be quite a deterrent.

Posted by venusianbull
That's what irritates me, little offense..rot for ages, heinous stuff. Slap on the wrist and off you go *gently patting bottom*. Seems backwards to me.

I was talking about crims robbing other people.

Yep, got that. 🙂

As a former boss man I think it's okay in most cases. Some really do WAKE up and stay out of trouble. But it depends on the crime too. And Some shit birds game play to get out and fuck up agian, so case by case, it's a bit of a grey area position for me. As I wouldn't want to generlize every locked up person ya know.

Posted by Lobo
Some shit birds game play to get out and fuck up agian, so case by case, it's a bit of a grey area position for me. As I wouldn't want to generlize every locked up person ya know.

yep. some can play the game to get an early release. some genuinely change. how do you tell the difference?

Posted by XXMR2NICEXX
Should the law change an stop people leaving prison early through good behaviour?

I think regardess of how good you have been inside prison, if you commit the crime then you should do the time in my book.

What are your thoughts on this?

if you murder, attempt to murder, or commit a violent crime with a gun/weapon in illinois, more than likely you're doing 80% of your time now.

what i do think should change is that "have you ever been convicted of a felony" question on job applications thou, it should be more specific, like they should ask "have you ever been convicted of a felony in the past 7 years" or something to that effect, because past mistakes should never be held over a person's head, nor hinder them for life, especially if they're trying to become productive citizens in this country

Posted by everevolvingepithet
I agree with that except for maybe lesser, petty crimes or ones charged through self defence kwim ?

Right.
Take me for example.
I was in a fist fight and the other person went to the police.
The State took up the case and without paying restitution, I was sentenced to 2-Years.
Now i was sent upstate to a LEVEL 4-5 Facility and was rubbing elbows with murderers, gangbangers, stick-up kids and just criminals with much more severe offences.
I tried to sign up for "prison work" and didnt qualify because my sentence of 2-Years was not enough time.
My blood was too clean to sign up for Addiction Program Certificate class (i signed up cause I didnt want to sit in a cell for 22-hours of the day) as the certificate program and work program certainly doesnt guarantee time taken off but i figured it certainly couldnt hurt since it was obvious the courts and the State thought I was a violent monster.

Anyhow, I did make one mistake. You get a 'counselor' and mine happened to be a woman with the most beautiful blue eyes I had ever seen, (she was the one who informed me why i didnt qualify for any program)so I write her a note with a full disclaimer on how I knew i could get in trouble for paying her a compliment when it was clear to me that such a compliment, regardless of its innocence, was kind of scary coming from an inmate (we had spoken about my case and I felt she knew I wasnt a really bad apple and had made a huge mistake, in other words I had expressed remorse and regret)but I wanted to let her know her eyes gave me hope.....

continued....

so a few days later I get sent to her office and she places my note in front of me and tells me that what I did was inappropriate and while she appreciated the delicate balance of my 'disclaimer', it was not an okay or acceptable thing.
She said, I could easily be given more time for 'endangering a prison staff member' but she wasnt going too recommend that but would have to punish me by giving me, of all things, 'work detail'....go figure.
For 14 days, Id have to go and collect inmate trash cans, empty and refresh the trash bags.
It was cool cause it was a punsihment, but when everyone had to stay put during "count", id have to go from cell to cell and from cubicle to cubicle and empty trash cans. I saw other parts of the prison, which felt like a small vacation and break from the routine. Once in a while an inmate would hand me a note to pass to another inmate in a different part of the prison, kind of like what Brooks did with the library books in the movie The Shawshank Redemption.
I was good at concealing the notes as I had gotten practice from when I used to sneak slices of bread from 'chow' so i wouldnt be starving in my bed at night, since the last meal (dinner) is at 7pm, by 10pm, I was starving!!
Well one day I was called to her office and this time it was to tell me, I was being released within the next 13-days, partyly because of good behavoir but mainly because the prison needed the space for more serious offenders.
So a 2-year assault sentence turned into 5-months of prison time. The first 3-months were at a LEVEL 4-5 and the last 2-months they sent me to a LEVEL 2-3 further upstate.

Im all for having time knocked off for GOOD BEHAVOIR, only if the crime wasnt murder, pedophelia and animal cruelty and it only should be made available to first 'time offenders', like myself.
I dodged a bullet with paying the counselor the compliment, thank god she wasnt a bitch and that I had put the compliment on paper and she couldnt say I came on to her or said something vulgar, as the note would have contradicted such claims by her. It was just a way for me to feel normal. Even if it was just for that day.

She wasn't offended about that note, at all ..... it was her out to use to get you into work detail, since you didn't qualify for any of the programs.


When she got it, she was probably happy ... because now she could use punishment as justification to get you out of the cell everyday.


Brilliant, actually.


My husband was head of the kitchen .. best job in the joint ... for both the pops and screws

Your food is the most precious thing you have in prison ... so nobody fucked with him, since he was in charge of their food. In fact, everybody has his back.


As for topic ... I think it depends on the crime, also. To say all people should do thier full time, across the board, without taking it on a case by case basis .. is pretty harsh and unfair, since a lot of people aren't voilent, nor a threat to society, and simply made a mistake.


In fact, I think that first time offenders shouldn't go to jail at all .... if the crime wasn't aggressive

Posted by XXMR2NICEXX
Should the law change an stop people leaving prison early through good behaviour?

I think regardess of how good you have been inside prison, if you commit the crime then you should do the time in my book.

What are your thoughts on this?

I agree with you

The only thing i really dont agree with about prisons is the Weight roooms. I mean, I saw some big strong fuckers in there and they diddnt look reformed.

Treadmills and exercise bikes should be the only equipment made available to the prisoners. Not free weights. Thats dumb in my opinion.
Yeah here is agood idea, lets let the RAPIST get twice as strong while he is doing time.


and P-angel...
Its true, the inmates who work the 'chow hall and kitchen' are CELEBRITIES in prison.
Food is gold in cookies, where else can you trade a hard boiled egg for 6 slices of bread and trade Rmnen Noodles for 4 packs of Oreo cookies and a kool-aid pack?
NOWHERE!!!

Hey The real celebs are the admid porters "the eyes and ears of the prision". Then the kithchen, commissary, lundry, maintenace and paint sqaud. And to reply to a question asked. The indivisial offender has a case manager that looks over there records, and activity while being locked up. When the board hearing forparole comes up these are the determining factors, plus the opinion of a few people. I was a seg boss, and I worked rec and medical alot so I got to see things....

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Posted by XXMR2NICEXX
Should the law change an stop people leaving prison early through good behaviour?

I think regardess of how good you have been inside prison, if you commit the crime then you should do the time in my book.

What are your thoughts on this?

if you murder, attempt to murder, or commit a violent crime with a gun/weapon in illinois, more than likely you're doing 80% of your time now.

what i do think should change is that "have you ever been convicted of a felony" question on job applications thou, it should be more specific, like they should ask "have you ever been convicted of a felony in the past 7 years" or something to that effect, because past mistakes should never be held over a person's head, nor hinder them for life, especially if they're trying to become productive citizens in this country

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Agreed.

Posted by everevolvingepithet
Sweet story WG. It turned out alright in the end in some ways then 🙂 I remember the stories on the bread smuggling too.
She probably enjoyed the compliment and tried to remain somewhat professional I reckon.🙂

She was cool about it. I wish i knew her name so I could Facebook her and just say, Thanks, all these years later.

I guess i have some interesting prison moments to share with someones grandchildren someday.

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Posted by wgamador2

Posted by everevolvingepithet
Sweet story WG. It turned out alright in the end in some ways then 🙂 I remember the stories on the bread smuggling too.
She probably enjoyed the compliment and tried to remain somewhat professional I reckon.🙂

She was cool about it. I wish i knew her name so I could Facebook her and just say, Thanks, all these years later.

I guess i have some interesting prison moments to share with someones grandchildren someday.

Awww.
"Granpappi was pimpin' pimpin' back in the day, son ! "

Gkids "Gran'ma, Grandad's off his meds ! "

"HHrrmphh"

^Something like that ? 🙂

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LMAO. I hope so. And i hope they get it on video and put it on YouTube.

FUCK YOU MOTHERFUCKING GREEDY FUCKS!!

My state turned a small profit while I was locked up for a fist fight (during an election year by the way) the State turned a profit and I was left with a record that has haunted me and crushed any dream I ever had to become someone special in the community.

Yeah the state def bank from inmates. Texas*
I kinda miss working at the prision... but I think I'm done with it 4 years was enough.
I do still make spreads with chili, peppers, chesse, roman and peanutbutter. with bread🙂

CNBC special called "billions behind bars: inside america's prisons" premier's tonight @ 9 ET

http://www.cnbc.com/id/44762286/