Posted by HypnotoadIs 17 years too old for a car?
Get a used pre 04 Toyota Corolla manual.
Posted by nanobotz
I got a base model Rav4 for $ 27k ish I think, my monthly payments for that alone is $ 410 😬😬 Be careful… broke and new car doesn’t go together, this shit expensive af
Posted by HypnotoadI am... It snows here a lot in the winter so there is a lot of saltPosted by SnowBunny726Posted by Hypnotoad
Get a used pre 04 Toyota Corolla manual.
Is 17 years too old for a car?
It's pretty old but they are pretty bomb proof cars that hold their value. As long as you're not in a salty roads placeclick to expand
Posted by nanobotz😂😂 Broke + new car = 💩 I know. How long are you financing your Rav4 for? I'm trying to do three years since that way I won't have to pay interest.
I got a base model Rav4 for $ 27k ish I think, my monthly payments for that alone is $ 410 😬😬 Be careful… broke and new car doesn’t go together, this shit expensive af
Posted by BumboklaatSee that's exactly how I think too, so then I get stressed out and annoyed and give up on car shopping lol
Don't mean to be pessimistic but I've grown to hate cars. It's the most annoying tool in society. Especially if you live in a big city.
You cant really win. New car and super expensive and they're made to last 5 years or so
Used car and might rip you off and almost always overpriced
Old car and you won't really know what might break next.
I just learned how to maintain and check/fix my cars. Although I just use trucks nowadays
Idk if Toyota still has the certified pre owned line but those cars/trucks before 2016 are reliable.
Stay away from Dodge, Ford(cars) Fiat Chrysler GMC
Toyota, Honda(mostly) Subaru are reliable brands
Posted by SnowBunny726It all depends on how much youre willing to pay. I wouldnt get into huge monthly payments cause then your car becomes your life. Dealers are also sketchy. I guess used isn't so bad if you stick to Toyota. Cause Hondas get abused by "Racers"Posted by Bumboklaat
Don't mean to be pessimistic but I've grown to hate cars. It's the most annoying tool in society. Especially if you live in a big city.
You cant really win. New car and super expensive and they're made to last 5 years or so
Used car and might rip you off and almost always overpriced
Old car and you won't really know what might break next.
I just learned how to maintain and check/fix my cars. Although I just use trucks nowadays
Idk if Toyota still has the certified pre owned line but those cars/trucks before 2016 are reliable.
Stay away from Dodge, Ford(cars) Fiat Chrysler GMC
Toyota, Honda(mostly) Subaru are reliable brands
See that's exactly how I think too, so then I get stressed out and annoyed and give up on car shopping lolclick to expand
Posted by BumboklaatI have friends who are friends with car dealers so that honestly makes me feel a little better... I'll still do my research though.Posted by SnowBunny726Posted by Bumboklaat
Don't mean to be pessimistic but I've grown to hate cars. It's the most annoying tool in society. Especially if you live in a big city.
You cant really win. New car and super expensive and they're made to last 5 years or so
Used car and might rip you off and almost always overpriced
Old car and you won't really know what might break next.
I just learned how to maintain and check/fix my cars. Although I just use trucks nowadays
Idk if Toyota still has the certified pre owned line but those cars/trucks before 2016 are reliable.
Stay away from Dodge, Ford(cars) Fiat Chrysler GMC
Toyota, Honda(mostly) Subaru are reliable brands
See that's exactly how I think too, so then I get stressed out and annoyed and give up on car shopping lol
It all depends on how much youre willing to pay. I wouldnt get into huge monthly payments cause then your car becomes your life. Dealers are also sketchy. I guess used isn't so bad if you stick to Toyota. Cause Hondas get abused by "Racers"
Just check a dealers feedback on legit websites(usually google is ok) You can usually spot when a dealer does bad stuff from even 1 or 2 negative feedbacks. Maybe go with a guy who knows basics of cars cause they love to take advantage of womenclick to expand
Posted by Seajatt
Toyotas and Hondas are good bets. It mostly comes down to how well the vehicle was treated. Couple rules to buying a car:
-If they "did you a favor and warmed it up for you" walk away. Just turn around and walk away.
-Have a pre-purchase inspection done. If the seller won't let you, walk away, yes, this includes dealers.
-For the pre-purchase inspection, request the mechanic perform a compression test and that he test your coolant for hydrocarbons. This will cost more, but it will ensure you aren't buying a vehicle with an engine failing or already failed. If the vehicle has bad compression or fails the coolant test, run away from that car.
- dont buy the warranties. Tell the dealer you're paying the agreed-upon price or no deal.
-About prices, know the local going rate for what you're wanting and that is how you open negotiations. Open up with a healthy 3-4k lower than what they're asking and do not be afraid to walk away. For this to work, you must be prepared to walk away from the car. Remember, this is a business transaction and that smiling face across from you is hoping to reach as deep as they can into your pocket. They are not your friend.
Posted by poppyflowerNo problem, and I thought of a few things to elaborate on and add:Posted by Seajatt
Toyotas and Hondas are good bets. It mostly comes down to how well the vehicle was treated. Couple rules to buying a car:
-If they "did you a favor and warmed it up for you" walk away. Just turn around and walk away.
-Have a pre-purchase inspection done. If the seller won't let you, walk away, yes, this includes dealers.
-For the pre-purchase inspection, request the mechanic perform a compression test and that he test your coolant for hydrocarbons. This will cost more, but it will ensure you aren't buying a vehicle with an engine failing or already failed. If the vehicle has bad compression or fails the coolant test, run away from that car.
- dont buy the warranties. Tell the dealer you're paying the agreed-upon price or no deal.
-About prices, know the local going rate for what you're wanting and that is how you open negotiations. Open up with a healthy 3-4k lower than what they're asking and do not be afraid to walk away. For this to work, you must be prepared to walk away from the car. Remember, this is a business transaction and that smiling face across from you is hoping to reach as deep as they can into your pocket. They are not your friend.
Quoting for my own reference later. Thank you. 😊click to expand
Posted by SeajattPosted by poppyflowerPosted by Seajatt
Toyotas and Hondas are good bets. It mostly comes down to how well the vehicle was treated. Couple rules to buying a car:
-If they "did you a favor and warmed it up for you" walk away. Just turn around and walk away.
-Have a pre-purchase inspection done. If the seller won't let you, walk away, yes, this includes dealers.
-For the pre-purchase inspection, request the mechanic perform a compression test and that he test your coolant for hydrocarbons. This will cost more, but it will ensure you aren't buying a vehicle with an engine failing or already failed. If the vehicle has bad compression or fails the coolant test, run away from that car.
- dont buy the warranties. Tell the dealer you're paying the agreed-upon price or no deal.
-About prices, know the local going rate for what you're wanting and that is how you open negotiations. Open up with a healthy 3-4k lower than what they're asking and do not be afraid to walk away. For this to work, you must be prepared to walk away from the car. Remember, this is a business transaction and that smiling face across from you is hoping to reach as deep as they can into your pocket. They are not your friend.
Quoting for my own reference later. Thank you. 😊
No problem, and I thought of a few things to elaborate on and add:
-About the warranties, they seem like a good idea. But they aren't, because of their added costs and the interest, you'll pay for the car 2-3 times over and you likely won't ever use the warranty. And if you do, you're going to find that quite a few shops will flat out reject working on your vehicle because of how the warranty companies operate. Don't get the warranty. Just make sure the pre-purchase inspection is done and get triple A.
-About dealerships, when dealing with a salesperson they are gonna chat you up. They are doing this for two reasons: they want to establish rapport, which builds trust, and then they want information on your finances: "How much are we looking to spend today, maybe I can help you find the right vehicle." What this really means: "I don't give a fuck about what you can afford and you getting good value, I want to sell you the most expensive vehicle I can so I get a larger percentage. So tell me how much money you have so I can try to take all of it and more if able." They aren't your friend, don't make small talk, don't trust them, just be an asshole.
-Financing, most people can't afford to buy a car outright. It means you'll need financing, but for god's sake DO NOT USE THE DEALERSHIPS FINANCIERS. Hit up your local credit union and get pre-financed there, and you should see a much more favorable APR. If you do, keep whatever you get approved for close to the vest, the dealership doesn't need to know this information until you're sealing the deal.click to expand
Posted by HypnotoadOkie sounds good. Thank you. ☺️Posted by SnowBunny726Posted by HypnotoadPosted by SnowBunny726Posted by Hypnotoad
Get a used pre 04 Toyota Corolla manual.
Is 17 years too old for a car?
It's pretty old but they are pretty bomb proof cars that hold their value. As long as you're not in a salty roads place
I am... It snows here a lot in the winter so there is a lot of salt
Then definatly consider that because cars get rust underneath so, you'd have to get under and have a good look.click to expand
Posted by SeajattTrust me, I know how salespeople work lol I'm a salesperson myself. Thank you for your tips though.
Toyotas and Hondas are good bets. It mostly comes down to how well the vehicle was treated. Couple rules to buying a car:
-If they "did you a favor and warmed it up for you" walk away. Just turn around and walk away.
-Have a pre-purchase inspection done. If the seller won't let you, walk away, yes, this includes dealers.
-For the pre-purchase inspection, request the mechanic perform a compression test and that he test your coolant for hydrocarbons. This will cost more, but it will ensure you aren't buying a vehicle with an engine failing or already failed. If the vehicle has bad compression or fails the coolant test, run away from that car.
- dont buy the warranties. Tell the dealer you're paying the agreed-upon price or no deal.
-About prices, know the local going rate for what you're wanting and that is how you open negotiations. Open up with a healthy 3-4k lower than what they're asking and do not be afraid to walk away. For this to work, you must be prepared to walk away from the car. Remember, this is a business transaction and that smiling face across from you is hoping to reach as deep as they can into your pocket. They are not your friend.
Posted by nanobotzI've been doing okay without a car but it's made my job more difficult that it would be if I had my own car, and my Gem won't let me drive his car lol. Having a car would make things so much easier for me; then I can just grab whatever I need whenever I need to and have an easier time meeting clients at different locations... And yeah I 100% agree on your comment on how used cars sell for as much as new cars so I literally don't see any point in buying used lolPosted by SnowBunny726Posted by nanobotz
I got a base model Rav4 for $ 27k ish I think, my monthly payments for that alone is $ 410 😬😬 Be careful… broke and new car doesn’t go together, this shit expensive af
😂😂 Broke + new car = 💩 I know. How long are you financing your Rav4 for? I'm trying to do three years since that way I won't have to pay interest.
Hmm I can’t remember, I think it was just the standard one, maybe 72 months? I’m planning to pay it off sooner, but needed to see what a mortgage is looking like, since I’m looking to also buy a house in May 😬😬
Used cars literally cost as much as new cars right now too. I did a lot of research before buying new, and they had 2017-2018 Rav4s selling everywhere for $ 24k+…. Like duh I’m going to get the new one? Meanwhile, dealerships are contacting people who have bought a new car the last 1-2 years asking to buy them back at the same cost they originally bought. Soooo 🤷🏼♀️ Seems like there’s a lot of pre-pandemic information swirling about this thread and from people who haven’t bought cars recently.
Also, they expect chip shortages to go well into 2023, maybe longer, and things won’t start to recover until then. I guess it depends on how bad you need/want a new car. Yes, it’s a bad time to buy a car, but it’s not supposed to get better for awhileclick to expand
Posted by HypnotoadFor how many months though?Posted by nanobotz
I got a base model Rav4 for $ 27k ish I think, my monthly payments for that alone is $ 410 😬😬 Be careful… broke and new car doesn’t go together, this shit expensive af
I pay 500+ a month for my 04 Hilux fmlclick to expand
Posted by nanobotzPosted by SnowBunny726Posted by nanobotzPosted by SnowBunny726Posted by nanobotz
I got a base model Rav4 for $ 27k ish I think, my monthly payments for that alone is $ 410 😬😬 Be careful… broke and new car doesn’t go together, this shit expensive af
😂😂 Broke + new car = 💩 I know. How long are you financing your Rav4 for? I'm trying to do three years since that way I won't have to pay interest.
Hmm I can’t remember, I think it was just the standard one, maybe 72 months? I’m planning to pay it off sooner, but needed to see what a mortgage is looking like, since I’m looking to also buy a house in May 😬😬
Used cars literally cost as much as new cars right now too. I did a lot of research before buying new, and they had 2017-2018 Rav4s selling everywhere for $ 24k+…. Like duh I’m going to get the new one? Meanwhile, dealerships are contacting people who have bought a new car the last 1-2 years asking to buy them back at the same cost they originally bought. Soooo 🤷🏼♀️ Seems like there’s a lot of pre-pandemic information swirling about this thread and from people who haven’t bought cars recently.
Also, they expect chip shortages to go well into 2023, maybe longer, and things won’t start to recover until then. I guess it depends on how bad you need/want a new car. Yes, it’s a bad time to buy a car, but it’s not supposed to get better for awhile
I've been doing okay without a car but it's made my job more difficult that it would be if I had my own car, and my Gem won't let me drive his car lol. Having a car would make things so much easier for me; then I can just grab whatever I need whenever I need to and have an easier time meeting clients at different locations... And yeah I 100% agree on your comment on how used cars sell for as much as new cars so I literally don't see any point in buying used lol
Are you buying a house for your birthday?!
Just be careful of the brands that are selling way above msrp… shady business practices. I can say in my experience that Toyota is not doing that. $ 27k for a brand new rav4 I think is pretty standard, even from before the pandemic. I can tell you that Ford Bronco msrp is around $ 30k and they are being sold right now for $ 50k. This is happening a lot…. Total fucking scam! You’re a smart cookie, I’m sure you’ll do your research. And not so much buying a house for my birthday but it’s just time lol. Housing costs have skyrocketed everywhere, but interest rates are still low. When I moved to Ohio, I rented a tiny house here $ 1300/month.. it’s a $ 100k 1k sqft house…. I am literally paying 2 months of their mortgage every month. It’s insane. I plan to buy a house at around the same monthly payment (maybe a bit more), and will get twice the house and it will be mine. It’s way cheaper to invest. I can’t believe I’m spending that to live in my current house. But it’s just for a year when I first moved here - a safe place and I have 2 big dogs, so it worked short term. Cost of housing is still incredibly cheap here, so I am trying to make a move quickly.click to expand