any thoughts?
reverting to Islam..
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Hey man what's up? What was your old username again?
I converted to Islam about a year ago, people tend to make a big deal about it which I believe mainly due to media and stereotyping.
Why? Because I can and got interested. Wasn't like i was a devout Catholic anyway.
I converted to Islam about a year ago, people tend to make a big deal about it which I believe mainly due to media and stereotyping.
Why? Because I can and got interested. Wasn't like i was a devout Catholic anyway.
Reverting ? ?
Yeah, reverting..
IantheFish! Yes, long time my friend,
Posted by xghyIt makes more sense to have direct relationship with Allah.. as apposed to relationship with a prophet..Posted by ianthezuvisInteresting.
any thoughts?
Why do you want to revert to Islam
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Jesus (pbuh). You don't "revert". You weren't born Muslim and then led astray. People aren't born with religion, they're taught it.
Posted by sultrykittyWrong.
Jesus (pbuh). You don't "revert". You weren't born Muslim and then led astray. People aren't born with religion, they're taught it.
Posted by ianthezuvisOK then, explain exactly how a newborn is Muslim. Do they face east to pray? Do they fast for Ramadan? Do they say the shahada?Posted by sultrykittyWrong.
Jesus (pbuh). You don't "revert". You weren't born Muslim and then led astray. People aren't born with religion, they're taught it.
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The last prophet.. also all the prophets before.. from Jesus to Adam..
Posted by sultrykittyEveryone and everything is born Muslim in Islam.Posted by ianthezuvisOK then, explain exactly how a newborn is Muslim. Do they face east to pray? Do they fast for Ramadan? Do they say the shahada?Posted by sultrykittyWrong.
Jesus (pbuh). You don't "revert". You weren't born Muslim and then led astray. People aren't born with religion, they're taught it.
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Posted by ianthezuvisWhat are the five pillars?Posted by sultrykittyEveryone and everything is born Muslim in Islam.Posted by ianthezuvisOK then, explain exactly how a newborn is Muslim. Do they face east to pray? Do they fast for Ramadan? Do they say the shahada?Posted by sultrykittyWrong.
Jesus (pbuh). You don't "revert". You weren't born Muslim and then led astray. People aren't born with religion, they're taught it.
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And explain how a baby fulfills them.
You can just accept Islam, just like the Quran accepts there was a prophet called Jesus.
I'm no expert on Islam...
This is just dialect...
This is just dialect...
Posted by ianthezuvisLogic is your friend. Apply it.
I'm no expert on Islam...
This is just dialect...
And here I am.. applying it..
Islam is very simple, and it is more forgiving and flexible than people think. Resorting to trick questions catch somebody out is pointless, anyone can pay that game.
I'm not seeing much, actually.
How long have you been looking into it? Who has been teaching you?
How long have you been looking into it? Who has been teaching you?
Must be a christian.
Posted by AAThese aren't trick questions. They're simple questions that require the one being asked to apply simple logic.
Islam is very simple, and it is more forgiving and flexible than people think. Resorting to trick questions catch somebody out is pointless, anyone can pay that game.
Posted by ianthezuvisNot quite in the sense that you think. Sure, I'd much rather follow Jesus than Muhammad, but I don't really believe in a whole lot of what traditional Christians believe.
Must be a christian.
But this isn't about me, it's about you wanting to convert and not really knowing why.
Muslims don't follow Muhammad.. they follow Allah..
Who the fuck do you think you are to question my reasoning to religion...
The understanding of Muhammads life is important though...
Posted by sultrykittyThat's fair.Posted by AAThese aren't trick questions. They're simple questions that require the one being asked to apply simple logic.
Islam is very simple, and it is more forgiving and flexible than people think. Resorting to trick questions catch somebody out is pointless, anyone can pay that game.
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Have you googled?
How does one fast during Ramadan when they NEED to eat due to illness? Answer, you can eat, if you have intention and good will on the mind.
How does one pray when it is physically impossible? You can in mind with intention and good will.
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Muslims don't follow Muhammad.. they follow Allah..
Muslims follow Muhammad, end of. You have to accept that Allah speaks through Muhammad, that every command was relayed through him. That's why you have proscribed prayers, halal requirements, essentially Jewish Law (although somewhat corrupted), specific required recitations, ablution, etc. Allah didn't tell anyone but Muhammad to do these things. So you follow Muhammad.
The Quran is a direct unadulterated message from God..
Posted by AAI didn't need to Google, studied Islam on my own for about about 10 years. From Islamic sources.Posted by sultrykittyThat's fair.Posted by AAThese aren't trick questions. They're simple questions that require the one being asked to apply simple logic.
Islam is very simple, and it is more forgiving and flexible than people think. Resorting to trick questions catch somebody out is pointless, anyone can pay that game.
Have you googled?
How does one fast during Ramadan when they NEED to eat due to illness? Answer, you can eat, if you have intention and good will on the mind.
How does one pray when it is physically impossible? You can in mind with intention and good will.
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And yes, I'm aware of the things you mention. That doesn't absolve one of yhe requirements, only that you do it when you can.
Yes you have to accept that Muhammad was the last prophet.. that good spoke through him.
God*
Posted by Senorita_LLErgo, not born Muslim. :-)Posted by sultrykittyThe father or a family elder will first whisper the call to prayer (adhan) in the baby's ear, shortly after it's birth.Posted by ianthezuvisOK then, explain exactly how a newborn is Muslim. Do they face east to pray? Do they fast for Ramadan? Do they say the shahada?Posted by sultrykittyWrong.
Jesus (pbuh). You don't "revert". You weren't born Muslim and then led astray. People aren't born with religion, they're taught it.
This is one of the first thing, that Muslim will do.
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My thoughts are that religions aren't that different at their core
It all points back to the same god - just different interpretations and approaches due to culture and language
If you relate to Islam, great ??
It all points back to the same god - just different interpretations and approaches due to culture and language
If you relate to Islam, great ??
Posted by ianthezuvisJust like Christians have to accept that God spoke through Jesus
Yes you have to accept that Muhammad was the last prophet.. that good spoke through him.
It's not that different !
Same characters, same themes, different story telling
Ok.
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My thoughts are that religions aren't that different at their core
It all points back to the same god - just different interpretations and approaches due to culture and language
If you relate to Islam, great ??
That's a logical and intelligent theory, thought a lot about that one myself 🙂
Posted by MontgomeryI don't understandPosted by ianthezuvisIs that like backsliding?
any thoughts?
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Posted by AAPosted by brianafay
My thoughts are that religions aren't that different at their core
It all points back to the same god - just different interpretations and approaches due to culture and language
If you relate to Islam, great ??
That's a logical and intelligent theory, thought a lot about that one myself 🙂click to expand
It's why I cannot be an atheist
Too much of the same story told different ways for me to discount it
Posted by sultrykittyDon't bother. Religion & logic have never gotten along. He's lost the plot, just step away slowly and let him live out the rest of his life in blissful ignorance.Posted by ianthezuvisOK then, explain exactly how a newborn is Muslim. Do they face east to pray? Do they fast for Ramadan? Do they say the shahada?Posted by sultrykittyWrong.
Jesus (pbuh). You don't "revert". You weren't born Muslim and then led astray. People aren't born with religion, they're taught it.
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Posted by HeavyEntertainmentShowLol sometimes I can't help myself. Call me crazy, it's kind of fun. I must have a masochistic streak. 😄Posted by sultrykittyDon't bother. Religion & logic have never gotten along. He's lost the plot, just step away slowly and let him live out the rest of his life in blissful ignorance.Posted by ianthezuvisOK then, explain exactly how a newborn is Muslim. Do they face east to pray? Do they fast for Ramadan? Do they say the shahada?Posted by sultrykittyWrong.
Jesus (pbuh). You don't "revert". You weren't born Muslim and then led astray. People aren't born with religion, they're taught it.
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Posted by ellesbellesI used the word revert on purpose...Posted by ianthezuvisMaybe because you used the word "reverting"?Posted by MontgomeryI don't understandPosted by ianthezuvisIs that like backsliding?
any thoughts?
I am still confused because I thought it would be "converting".click to expand
Posted by MontgomeryIt makes more sense than christianity?Posted by ianthezuvisWhy?
any thoughts?
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Posted by ianthezuvisPosted by ellesbellesI used the word revert on purpose...Posted by ianthezuvisMaybe because you used the word "reverting"?Posted by MontgomeryI don't understandPosted by ianthezuvisIs that like backsliding?
any thoughts?
I am still confused because I thought it would be "converting".
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Because you've practiced Islam before ?
Posted by ianthezuvisPosted by MontgomeryIt makes more sense than christianity?Posted by ianthezuvisWhy?
any thoughts?
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I think she meant why are you asking for people's thoughts ? It's your personal journey
You ok?
Posted by sultrykittyYou probably have a fire Mars like me lol. Gross stupidity triggers me.Posted by HeavyEntertainmentShowLol sometimes I can't help myself. Call me crazy, it's kind of fun. I must have a masochistic streak. 😄Posted by sultrykittyDon't bother. Religion & logic have never gotten along. He's lost the plot, just step away slowly and let him live out the rest of his life in blissful ignorance.Posted by ianthezuvisOK then, explain exactly how a newborn is Muslim. Do they face east to pray? Do they fast for Ramadan? Do they say the shahada?Posted by sultrykittyWrong.
Jesus (pbuh). You don't "revert". You weren't born Muslim and then led astray. People aren't born with religion, they're taught it.
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Has anyone looked up the definition of revert?
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